Hawker Typhoon
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- During World War 2, England desperately needed a replacement for the Hawker Hurricane fighter to maintain aerial superiority over the English Channel. Without such an advantage, it would be impossible to set the stage for D-day and the eventual liberation of France.
Although the aircraft was fitted with one of the mightiest engines of its time, the initial results were highly disappointing. Then, as it made it to the battlefront to conduct its first operations, it further disheartened the Allied leaders.
The aircraft turned out to be very difficult and risky to operate, displaying a much higher probability of being taken down or even bursting into flames on its own than other fighters.
Soon, Allied pilots started to dread the prospect of flying it, going as far as considering it a suicide mission.
But just as Germany deployed its fastest and more powerful fighter to date, the Focke-Wulf FW 190, and the prospects of maintaining air superiority over the English Channel appeared bleaker by the minute, the Hawker Typhoon and its daring pilots stepped up to meet the threat eye to eye.
Then, almost by mistake, the faulty and hazardous Typhoon was given a different role, completely changing the course of the war...
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I personally knew a Typhoon pilot, F/Lt Jack H Hilton, RCAF. So many great stories from him. Rest easy sir, you are missed. 🇨🇦
The real problem with the Typhoon was the wing (NACA-22 Series). The chord-width was too wide and at speeds over 400 mph experienced compressibility effects. During dives approaching 500 mph, a very sharp increase in drag was experienced and the aerodynamics changed which affected pitch and made the machine nose-heavy. The wing section that was eventually adopted for development had its point of maximum thickness at 37.5% of the chord. The thickness/chord ratio was 14.5% at the root and 10% at the tip making the new wing 5 inches thinner at the root than the original. The wing area was increased and an elliptical planform was adopted. The thinner wing was more efficient at high speeds, but had far less space for fuel, so a fuselage tank was added which extended the length of the aircraft by 21 inches ahead of the c.g. The inevitable compensation for this was a scalloped larger fin and tail plane, which improved stability. This series of modifications resulted in a faster, much lighter handling and responsive aircraft. Initially called the Typhoon II, it eventually was renamed the Tempest - an aircraft that realized the potential and the promised performance of the design.
Didnt realize these planes were such stinkers in the beginning. Love their design and glad it all worked out.
My dad flew one in ww2, he loved it and its rockets and its speed.
Looks and sounds like a flying 'Pit Bull Terrier''.
@@MrDaiseymay Great description! Thick and brutish with b@lls of iron. I absolutely love this aircraft.
Much respect to your father! Deliberately flying straight at a flak position, right down its throat, takes a rare type of bravery and commitment.
The refined version of this, the tempest V, was an extremely successful fighter. Had even better performance at low-medium altitude than the mustang
have they fixed the issue of engine unable to start safely?
@@frankhu8692 yes they fixed all the major issues the typhoon had while giving it more power and better aerodynamics
The wing design was altered to a laminaner flow one
@@frankhu8692 Yep, like about 75 years ago.
The later Tempest became the Hawker Fury the fastest piston engine plane of its time.
The Alison Mustang was very fast at low and medium altitudes. Rolls Royce test pilot spotted its potential for high altitude use with the (then new) two staff Merlin 61.
At 06:44 in the video, it shows my father, P/O Roy Payne landing his 609 Squadron RAF Typhoon PR-H at Biggin Hill, with the wheels up. He had previously suffered a puncture during takeoff. Dated 30 October 1942
Nicely done wheels up landing. My thanks to your Father for taking on this brute and deliberately diving INTO flak (to silence it) as part of his mission.
Awesome.
It’s incredible how many different aircraft took part and how quickly they were manufactured during this period!
There was an old story about a spitfire pilot who after completing a sortie landed back at the airfield only to complain to the ground crew about a knocking noise coming from the rear of the aircraft. The mechanics checked it out, it's ok sir it's just a factory girl finishing off the aircraft 🤣🤣🤣
The thing is, if you are not on the bleeding edge of R'n'D, you lose
Pierre Closterman's book is superb regarding the Typhoon and Tempest during the final years of the war.
Dark Skies seem to over labour the drawbacks of the Typhoon and the reluctance of pilots to fly it. Both the Typhoon and Tempest were used to great success after D Day and through to the surrender in Europe. being used as far north as Denmark.
"Le Grande Charles." Fabulous book, read it years ago.
Sir Sydney Camm was a genius. Anyone not familiar with his work may wish to marvel at his biplanes, monoplane and jets. Was the Typhoon the first "fighter bomber"? Many others such as the Sopwith Camel, Snipe and Westland Whirlwind could claim that title. My favourite aeroplane, the Hawker Hurricane lead the way for many of the ground attack methods employed by the allies. Let's also not forget the Typhoon's successor the Tempest, that was a beast.
The Typhoon was not first, the Hurribomber (Hurricane Mk.IIb ) was a very good fighterbomber as well.. Not to mention the P-47 Thunderbolt..
I love watching the Dark Skies docs,they are well presented and documented and always keep you interested-the hawker typhoon had it's faults but it eventually became an excellent ground attack aircraft
I built 1/72 and 1/48 scale Typhoons. They were one of my fav ww2 planes
The Typhoon was one of my favourites when I was building Airfix kits in the mid 60's. They were so brutal!
Never read about all these initial faults in the potted histories you'd find in the instructions for those kits, so this documentary was very interesting.
Before plastic kits, my father carved a Typhoon out of wood, at about 1/72 scale. It's beautifully painted and detailed, although it's a bit scuffed and bashed now but I still have it. Everyone used to call it Dad's Spitfire, but I knew better.
I enjoyed this documentary but I feel it rather over-states the Typhoon's initial problems, which were quickly rectified. Many of the issues could not have been foreseen, and some were due to its shear power and speed putting the airframe into the realms of the transonic, a completely unknown area at the time. The Hawker Sea Fury was an indirect descendant of the Typhoon and retained the massive propellor. Imagine trying to land one of those on a carrier deck.
I've been building my 1/48 aircraft collection and just finally moved to RAF airframes, having finally got spitfire just the other day. But definitely always loved the typhoons and will be getting asap.
The British 'deficit' over the Channel lasted approximately a year. The FW 190 started appearing in small numbers from summer 1941 and in mass from Operation Cerberus and completely outclassed the Spitfire V. The Spitfire IX appeared in mass at the Dieppe raid in August 1942 and could more than hold its own with the FW190. The subsequent Spitfire XIV could out dogfight any piston engined aircraft of any nation during WWII
The Mk XIV needs more supporters like you.
Yes even the bloody P47D
The narrow width undercarriage killed a lot of Griffon Spitfire pilots
@@englishpassport6590 How many? During what period? And which models? Can you please cite the numbers and your sources.
@@englishpassport6590 Did they how many ask Wilbur how manyP51 were lost due to accidents
"first fighter-bomber in the world" is a bold and likely false statement. Lots of fighters were fitted with all manner of ground attack weapons (guns, bombs, or rockets) long before the Typhoon started doing it.
Ironically including the Hawker Hurricane in all its many variants as it became obsolescent for the air superiority fighter role .
It's just one more in a long series of absurd statements from Dark Skies.
@@gort8203 Like how without the Typhoon the War would have taken a different turn. Absolute bollocks.
Dark Skies lots of inaccuracies, and false statements. WW1 fighters routinely flew with bombs.
In my youth, building model airplanes was my passion. The Hawker Typhoon was one of my favorites. Thanks for sharing this but I would love to hear more about this plane.
Then refined in to the Tempest V, Tempest II and finally the Sea Fury
The Tempest used a thinner cord wing that was faster. They were also fast enough to catch up with V-1s. They could shoot them down but the V-1 often blew up putting the fighters at risk. They then learned to fly next to the V-1 put a wingtip under the wing of the V-1 and then roll. This would flip the V-1s upside down where their autopilots would fail and they would crash.
Part of the problem was the Napier Sabre, which was an aero engineer's wet dream but not suited to war time production. The design worked well with the Bristol Centaurus radial engine.
@@frosty3693 yes well documented .
Sea Fury use to fly past our school when I was a lot younger. The fastest thing I have ever see with a propeller and has long left an impression. Equally as impressive was the English Electric lightning. Seeing that baby nose up and disappear into the heavens will never be forgotten
@@stephenbesley3177 I saw Seafuries in a couple of airshows and they were just impressive. Unfortunately, I never had the chance to see the electrifying English Electric Lightning flying and rocketing upwards! Greetings from Portugal!
Some inaccuracies:
1. The Fw-190 was used as a Channel fighter bomber from 1942, not 1943.
2. The Typhoon was not the first fighter bomber (see 1, for one example). It wasn't even Hawker's first monoplane fighter bomber, which was the Hurricane as 'Hurribomber' as Mark II and IV.
3. Typhoons did not 'exchange MGs for rockets'. For one thing, they were all armed with cannon by that point. Secondly the fit was rockets or bombs, cannon always present.
4. The Sabre was not 2500 hp initially, nor in any production version used on the Typhoon, with 2200 hp being the usual value, depending on subversion of Sabre and fuel quality.
I love the playing of "HaTikvah" during the video. Well done and interesting video.
Excellent video, i had NO IDEA the typhoon had so many problems, I heard of the wing problems but nothing else.. Germany had the 210, Britain had the Typhoon .. Prototypes always essential.
"Ma Vlast" playing in the background was almost a distraction from your narration. Loved it.
A wonderful brute of a plane.what wasnt mentioned was its 4 .20mm cannon which proved devastating in combat,and the aircrafts ability to absorb ridiculous amounts of punishment. Hail the mighty typhoon!
I never really knew or cared about the Typhoon until I player IL2 Sturmovik: Normandy. The Typhoon flies like a jet with the acceleration and climb rate. I bought the game for the Mosquito but the Typhoon is by far my favorite plane in the game.
I built the Guillow's balsa and tissue, rubber band powered model of the Typhoon, decades ago as a teenager. It was GREAT, a rock-steady flyer, durable, and awesome looking. Still a favorite
This was the best video of yours I have seen to date.
Once the Typhoons (and USAAF P47s) were equipped with rockets, this is what broke the back of the German Panzer Divisions as they tried to retreat out of the Normandy and Caen AOs. Asking German Panzer and Grenadiere about their Normandy experiences, almost to a man they said "when the weather was clear and the "JABOS" appeared we found out just how dangerous it was for us". ("JABO" is an Abkürzung or abbreviation of the German word "Jagdbomber" or Fighter bomber...their name for Allied ground attack planes)
Yes stats say not many tanks were destroyed..but with no ammo, fuel, personal,etc. And fear.not a good day out for the Germans
Another great video, thanks.
BTW, the RAF pilot you mention as an "Officer Pilot" would be actually a "Pilot Officer" kind of like saying Colonel-Lieutenant instead of Lieutenant-Colonel. Cheers!
I remember talking to an old man who swore he was a Sergeant Colonel. He said it was a rank higher than Sergeant Major.
A superb autobiography by someone who actually flew the Spitfire, this plane and the Hawker Tempest is The Big Show by Pierre Clostermann who, in spite of his name was a French pilot who flew for the RAF in WW2. Imagine, if you will, sitting in an airplane (in this case the Tempest) which would burst into flames and explode before you had the remotest chance of escaping if you got the starting sequence wrong. He did this and describes this in great detail (although none of his airplanes exploded !). The Big Show is also one of the best accounts of any of the many thousands of servicemen who wrote about WW2 and lived through it.
The attrition rates of pilots in Typhoon squadrons in the 2nd TAF were very high. Lost a relative flying a Typhoon with 263 Squadron this month in 1944. The aircraft and aircrew don't get the recognition for the strategic impact they had 1943-1944.
My uncle got shot down flying the Typhoon in March of 45 flying with the 438. May all who perished rest in peace
I question any strategic impact Great Britain had in WW2. The entire country over rates it's self at every opportunity. Dunkirk is a good example of British impact. The whole "blitz" is presented as a tiny country england fighting a giant "Germany". When the actual truth is Germany was a weak county that beat up on even weaker countries. The only gift Germans gave to battle was killing innocent people and that Germans died better then the rest of Europeans that would surrender 1st and then die later. The whole blitz was just a battle between two wimps like watching light weights in the ring that lack the power to knock each other out.
Do any of you know Admiral King and General Marshall proposed in 1942 invading Europe in 1942...and the weak British declined?
All Britain really has been thru it's history is a tiny country that pits other countries against each other inorder to destabilize them to keep everyone weak. What ever this is called, that's about the entire scope of what Brits have given the world.
@@dhardy6654 in strategic terms Stalin points out that Britain provided the time, whilst Soviets the blood and the USA the cash
@@robertpatrick3350 What you are quoting doesn't even make sense. That might be a leader of a communist country's public relations press release and the message is shaped for a diplomatic result. There isn't any facts in it.... Let's examine it.
Soviet's provided the blood? It never mattered how many Soviets died, the number isn't connected or related to German defeats in Russian. The Germans lost in Russia because the Germans were very poor warriors, their tactics and leadership was very poor, much like the British officer corps is very poor and bad at everything they attempt. The Russians really kicked German ass.
Britian provided time? Well OK and so what? American leaders General Marshall and Admiral King presented invasion Europe for 1942 in 1942...if Britain wasn't there, I guarantee we would have just invaded Spain and drove into Europe killing Germans. Nobody in Europe has any concept of how lethal it is to be an American. We will just drive right up to you and shoot you in the face.
American cash? Idiot we called it the lend/lease program..... We sold you the beans and the bullets, we sold everything to you people. Then we had you assholes pay us back with interest. It was our financial system, not our money.
With the exception of the Russians, it's like living in a world full of weak children for us.
My uncle flew the hawker typhoon by Harry J.Hardy in 440 squadron in Holland.
Once again, this video is another example of how great inventions are not a matter of "feasibility" -- they are a matter of need driving their builders to exercise the determination bring them into existence.
This fighter/ bomber was the scourge of German armor units in Europe. It’s ground attack prowess was legendary!
(Much the same way the P-47 Thunderbolt was for Americans).
It's an interesting example of the difficulties in racing to develop new technology and pushing the capabilities of aircraft under wartime pressures. The Tempest appears to have been the aeroplane that the Typhoon was intended to be. The Typhoon eventually became a successful warplane and it is one of my favourites.
Typhoon was a very bigger, heavier, faster and powerful aircraft than other single engine types in service in the RAF.
Its take off speed was close to the hurricane's economic cruise.
In any case, a combat aircraft is a dangerous machine to fly compared to a civil aircraft. And the Typhoon was pushing the limits further. The Typhoon was a huge step forward in anything.
So pilots had to learn how to master such a big aircraft. The RAF had to learn methods to fly and operate such big and heavy fighters.
Concerning the technical difficulties, this advanced aircraft encoutered new types of aerodynamic problems because she could reach speeds that were never approached before. This caused unexpected stress on the airframe (tail) and Hawker took time to identify that. But the fix was easy.
About the engine, it was one of or the highest power to weight ratio engine of its time. To achieve this, many extreme options were selected by Napier such as valveless cylinders with oscillating jackets (aka sleeve valve).
These jackets were the main problem of this engine and the solution came unexpectly from a contractor.
They remarked that the jackets made by one of their contractor were more reliable along time and lasted longer than their home made jackets.
Finally the reason was identified : Napier made his oscillating liners by stamping and deburring, which always left tiny shards of metal on the intake and exhaust cutouts.These shards burned with each explosion in the cylinder and gradually the openings widened, and at After a while, the cylinders were no longer airtight, causing loss of power, igniting the lubricant and ultimately the entire engine. Mechanics had to replace the cylinder's jackets very often, (24 of them by engine) this was an endless and frequent operation that severly impacted the Typhoon fleet availability.
The subcontractor made the openings in the liners by milling which left no splinters and the openings made in this way grew much more slowly. Jackets made in this way lasted much longer. This machining method was generalized and improved, which solved the main problem with the Sabre engine.
And Oscillating jackets ketp being used later and after the war in successful british engines such as the Bristol Hercules series.
About the power of the Sabre that equiped the british fighters :
About 2200hp for take off
2800hp in emergency (write off the engine after that)
But, more important, the engine was capable of maintaining a high power output at all levels up to 6000m.
Interesting to notice, the Sabre and the RR Griffon had similar displaments of about 2,240 cubic inches (37 litres)
Read : "Rendez-vous avec la chance" Raymond Lallemant (Typhoon pilot - Squadron 609)
Éditions Robert Laffont, Paris, 1962 available also in the collection "Jai lu leur aventure"
This book was translated into English title : "Rendezvous with Fate"
I'm not sure if I'm more interested in the plane as a whole or as an appendage to that magnificently demented engine. The Sabre is just so bonkers.
My grandfather told me a story about his unit was pinned down in Holland by some German anti-tank guns, across a dike in an orchard. The German gunners waited until the Canadians had started crossing the dike, picked off the lead and rear vehicles, and then started working on the rest of the column. Typhoons were called in and obliterated the orchard and everything in it with rockets. They probably saved his life.
One of the original prototypes was fitted with the Rolls Royce Vulture Engine and was called the ‘Tornado’. The Vulture was a troublesome engine that was developed by bolting 2 Peregrine (another troublesome engine) engines together around a common crankshaft. Combining 2 problematic engines together did not fix the problem, but compounded it. The Vulture killed the Tornado, and later killed the Avro Manchester bomber. This bomber later was reborn when it was fitted with upgraded Merlin engines, and became the Avro Lancaster….
Thank You for your insight Sir.
I’ve been a fan of the Lancaster for some time and didn’t know that.
Cheers
Scaling up a great idea does not always work. Typhoon was a very large single engine fighter. Mid-altitude fighters were no longer needed by the allies after mid-1943 as the whole of the allied air effort in Europe was invested in strategic bombing. What was needed was high altitude long range escorts*. As for the Pacific Theater of Operations, most close support missions were flown by carrier based air. Land based marine interdiction was far better with Beaufighters and the odd B25. The reasons why there were no "Sea Typhoons" can be easily inferred.
Great speed in an interceptor is useful; Typhoon made a nice V1 interceptor until faster planes became available.
*Bomb trucks, like P38 and Typhoon were niche aircraft post 1943 in the ETO.
As history shows, we needed ,and aquired, the full range of airial 'equippment'. The typhooon , Mosquito, and Thunderbolt etc, were used to great effect, against 'ANYTHING THAT MOVED' before ,during, and after D-Day. Theres a great Vid on Typhoons in action, with Rockets firing, on YT.
The Typhoon's successor was definitely needed, it was used to great effect in the fight against the V1 missile due to its tremendous low altitude speed .
@@bigsmoke6189 It wasn’t the Typhoon that did the most to bring down the V1. It was the Tempest that was the aircraft that destroyed most of the world’s first (but crude) cruise missile. In the first V1 wave from June to September 1944, a total of 6,275 were launched. Out of these the RAF destroyed 1,771, anti aircraft & Royal Navy guns 1,460 & barrage balloons 232.
The RAF’s total broke down as;
Tempest 638
Mosquito 428 (mainly at night)
Spitfire XIV 303
Mustang 232
The balance supplied by
Spitfire XII, IX & even a V
Typhoons
Meteors.
By the time the second wave got going, between mid September 44 to January 45 it was the AA guns, increasingly equipped with proximity fuses that did the lion’s share of destruction; out of 639 V1 attacks, the guns got 331 & the fighters 71.
The final wave in March 45, out of 125 kills the guns got 89.
@@davidpope3943 that's what I said, " the Typhoon's successor" is in my other comment,which was the Tempest.
@@bigsmoke6189 Apologies; my misread error. I still don’t think that either plane gets the full respect that they deserve. Too much about the rocket firing Typhoons ~ impressive but not nearly as much damage caused as was claimed ~ and not enough on how Beamont’s interdiction tactics with first the Hurricane IIc & then the Typhoon from 41 to early 44 basically wrote the template for what the Tactical Airforces would achieve pre & post D-Day. If only Camm hadn’t gone with the ‘thick’ wing in the first place, the Allies could probably have achieved aerial superiority quite a bit earlier than they did. Still, both aircraft were mightily impressive & the pilots ~ particularly in the more accident-prone periods of both aircraft ~ were absolute legends.
One of the early problems with the Typhoon was the tail falling off and the plane got a bad reputation so that Spitfire pilots were not happy to convert to them. One day Diana Barnato Walker, an Air Transport Auxiliary delivery pilot was delivering a Typhoon to a squadron and barrel rolled it over the runway. Some pilots then revised their views about the aircraft.
Barrel rolled over runway. Reminded me of a film clip of a P-47 crash in Italy. The pilot had completed his last required mission and could rotate back to the US. He pulled a barrel roll on approach to the runway and augered into the dirt upside down. Hard lesson that physics don't care if you're excited to go home.
P47s were forbidden to do aerobatics below a certain height and they were not to have mock dog fights below 8000 ft when trying to turn with the Spitfire IX
I used to read comics of the Typhoons and Nighthawks (mosquitoes), with a torch under my blankets after I was sent to bed.. lol
The Typhoon and theThunderbolt . Great British and American ground attack fighters over Europe. Not enough about the typhoons. Thanks for the video.
I love watching these videos and learning about all these aircraft. It's amazing how much influence a few minor changes can have on an aircraft's capabilities. If it were up to me, I would have reduced the size of the engine, and reinforced the tail better. But maybe then it would not have become a capable strike aircraft.
PS: Interesting choice of background music.
I think much of it is Hatikvah, the Israeli national anthem.
I am yet to watch a Dark Skies that is 100% accurate. Some clips are very good. A lot of the facts are incorrect.
One of my favourite fighters thanks to a Comic I got in Normandy as a child.
Absolutely gorgeous planes!
Between swarms of Hawker Typhoons and P-47 Thunderbolts it was not a pleasant life for Germans on the ground!
The Hurricanes did a fantastic job during the Second world war defending the U.K. till it was retired.
Typhoon was another aircraft that once the bugs ironed out at the cost of so many Pilots lives it then became very effective Aircraft.
Really good presentation- excellent narration. One of the best UA-cam channels - very professional and always informative and entertaining
The FW190 was introduced in 1941, and was initially countered by the Spitfire Mk8 and Mk9.
Nice one, well done, any chance you can cover the Beaufighter? Now that was a thing of beauty.
This channel gets better and better. Sweet.
For Gods sake! We are all BRITISH or the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. We are England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland and we ALL fought as the UK against the Axis powers as the BRITISH Royal Airforce, Army and Navy. Please do not be so ignorant as to describe the UK as just 'England'. Thank you. P.S. I am English, and really annoyed you have ignored my Welsh, Scottish and Irish mates. They also fought and died.
His, I love that narrator’s voice. He should’ve sang for an industrial band.
The Hurricane won the Battle of Britain. The vast majority of shoot downs were by Hurricanes. The Spitfire is prettier but in 1940 not enough were around to be useful. for ground attack the Thunderbolt was the king.
Historians generally believe that without Spitfires air superiority would have been impossible for the Hurricane. We needed both.
The P-47 and Typhoon were considered equally effective in tactical air support role.
Ideally they tried to put the hurricanes against the bombers and the spits against the fighters . With the low number of spits . Of course that was not possible .
Hurricane could out turn .
Both the spit and hurricane were carburetted at that time . So they had a weakness in fuel feed due to gravity in a dive . That is where the injected messersmit had it's advantage.
@@smithy2389 Well said Sir, but it was the typhoon that scared Rommel the most
@@stephenpointon not sure that anyone can verify that claim. Hurricane tank busters messed him up in Africa. And I think a spitfire strafed his car before D day.
They where engine testing on the East Lancashire Road in Kirkby Liverpool.
My Dad's sister Elsie Scully (nee Faulkner) was working at the factory when it exploded killing a number of people.
The Typhoon was like so many aircraft the allies used. They had to be updated and modified to reach their capability. The P-51 was a dog when it was first brought to England, until they added the Merlin Engine. The P-38 had many problems until the plane was modified with propellers spinning in he opposite direction, and the diving problems became a serious one, but in the Pacific they proved their metal. The P-40 was called a slow poor handling fighter, but under 12000 feet it out handled the P-51, including out accelerating them. They were successful in Africa for being tough, and an excellent ground support aircraft.
The Pratt & Whitney R2800 with turbo charger and methanol water injection in the P47 had 2600 hp at that time
The spitfire MK IX actually addressed any issues it had with the focker-wolf 190 as well as other high performance MKs of spitfires namely the griffon Engine series spitfires they dealt with any German piston engine fighter to the final days of WW2 rather then focus on the hawker Typhoon which didn't really help speed up the end of the war or alter the fortunes of war to the allies favour in WW2 but however it turned out to be a effective ground attack aircraft rather then a high altitude fighter which was originally designed for with a very powerful. Napier Sabre Engine unfortunately it also had issues as pointed out in this video with the engine and Rear tail assembly falling off attempts to rectify this was wasn't fully resolved but the next model addressed. All the problems associated with the typhoon which, was the Hawker Tempest a much more superior aircraft, this fighter had the performance to catch up with German V1 Doodlebugs flying bombs and very successful fighter it was the final piston engine fighter by hawker was of course the Hawker Fury similar to the tempest in many ways however the royal Navy fleet air arm required fighter so hawker navalised it into the hawker sea fury folding wings stronger undercarriage and the very powerful centaurus radial engine the Royal Navy have a museum in Portsmouth where the have this engine on display it is a work of art in itself such a complex looking engine. Worth a visit.
This was my first every Airfix kit. Loved it ever since
But is it correct to claim that "Typhoon was the first aicraft which could use rocket ammunition effectively"? What about russian I-16, Il-2 and their RS-82 and RS-132 rockets?
The Napier Sabre engine was revolutionary. In fact, the Buick Company (a division of GM) received two Sabres in November 1940 with a view to licensed American production of the engine. Yet, at the end of WW2, almost no aircraft had used it.
The pressure that people were under during that war, was tremendous. All sides trying to counter each other's amazing technology. With more time to develop and improove, the Typhoon , it would have been a perfect and superb machine---same for both sides with their wonder inventions I guess.
My Gdad flew typhoons in WW2 North Africa campaign.
J.Gibson no idea what rank.
Grandma lived nice 😅
He lived till his 80's. Terrible driver. Nice woodworking shed.
What's even more wartastic is this was grandma's 2nd marriage.
Her first husband is my only grandparent to die young at 53. He served in the Royal navy and was stationed in Australia A LOT in the 50's ⚛️ 💣
Died of cancer.
Ground attack took a huge toll on manpower, i remember reading in one of our pilots autobiographies how they had problems recruiting to the Typhoon squadrons after the death of so many pilots
I knew a fighter pilot who flew these aircraft during WW2. He wrote to his parents and described the Napier Sabre engine as sounding as though it runs on chisels!'
When you fail your air superiority exam: "Don't worry, little Tyffy. You can still be a ground pounder."
And as it turns out, a decent fighter in the end. Sometimes you just have to stay with a problem long enough to see it through.
Its a stretch to state that the Typhoon was the first Fighter/bomber. A lot of fighter aircraft during WW1, the S.E.5 to name but one, routinely carried Cooper bombs. March 1938, Air Ministry, Specification F.18/37 aircraft to achieve at least 400 mph in level flight. Not 500mph as stated. The Spitfire IX was more responsible for ending the FW190 reign over the channel. The Typhoon as a war changing aircraft ? Very good in the fighter/bomber role, when using the Taxi or Cab rank tactics. By 1944 Allied air superiority was so great that numerous types could have achieved the same results on the battlefield, had the Typhoon not been available. It takes two minutes to check these facts from reliable sources. Its about time Dark Skies did so.
The typhoon sounds like a beast!
It was a very good tank buster.
I like to call the Hawker Typhoon,as a tank with wings.
Many of airmen lost their lives flying the Typhoon,bless them all….🙏
Not really, the rockets were ineffectual against armour, especially that of PzIV and Tiger tanks. They were psychologically powerful however, some tank crews abandoned ship rather than face further rocket attacks.
The Typhoon was best used against trains, they did a lot of damage to the German war effort there, that should have been mentioned in the film.
Fascinating background music. Hatikvah, The Hope.
Met a veteran Typhoon pilot who flew during the war.
For a laugh, him and his friend flew their planes under a viaduct after a mission in France if I remember rightly from what he told me.
-They were spotted, reported and consequently grounded for the rest of the war.
I think you'll find it's the English Channel - not British Channel. Good film, though... Brilliant aircraft inspite of the teething problems and aerodynamic effects it uncovered... Love the 60 lb RPs!
That Napier-Sabre had sleeve valves as well. Very busy-looking setup.
In Hawker Typhoon und Tempest, steckt sehr viel Focke Wulf 190 drin!
Much better and informative; fact, not opinions.
Hawker built robust aircraft, the Hurricane was a perfect example of that, the Typhoon and Tempest went on to prove that. You need a stable gun platform/wing to shoot straight and make it count/hit. I recall a WWII Battle of Britain fighter ace, who when asked what this favourite was said, 'to fly in a Spitfire, but fight in a Hurricane', which I think probably pretty much sums it up? Hawker Aviation wins the day!
Typhoon was a badass!
Look I love watching yours Vids, but why do you always say England instead of Great Britain or United Kingdom. Sort it out lads, come on.
Yes, but he confuses the issue by calling the English Channel the British Channel. I assume the narrator is American. Americans never seem to get this England / Great Britain / United Kingdom detail correct ! He also says 500 mph at one point, when certainly means 400.
@@paulbuckland132 I am always confused by the different terminology and have never seen it explained to where I understood. Yes, I am American. Can you enlighten me?
@@jlsracing997 Hi, yes, I would suggest you watch this video : ua-cam.com/video/rNu8XDBSn10/v-deo.html . It gets it pretty spot on, except of course we are now no longer in the EU. The English Channel is the internationally recognised correct term, except the French call it Le Manche ( The Sleeve ) - but that's the French for you. A couple of other things too; many Brits don't appreciate that GREAT Britain is a geographical term, it doesn't actually mean we are fantastic. Its like Greater and Lesser Antilles for example. The island of Ireland is geographically Lesser Britain, but nobody calls it that. Secondly, we Brits get things wrong about other countries, like the Netherlands; many call it Holland, but like calling Britain 'England', that is wrong, Holland is just the largest province of the Netherlands.
@@paulbuckland132 My head is going to blow up!
Wow that's a huge dis on the Hurricane, which numerically won the Battle of Britain. And FYI, Hurricanes and Spitfires of the time also started with cartridges, so this wasn't as big an inconvenience as you note as pilots were used to this start procedure. Certainly electric starts came in to all aircraft, eliminating this issue.
Good grief, imagine trying to deploy a plane so dangerous to fly that a pilot was awarded a medal for bravery and skill just by landing it.
"The most powerful engine of its time..."
The PW-2800 has left the chat.
To achieve the same power, the PW had 20% more displacement... and size XD
But it was much more reliable ;)
The Sabre VII achieved 3700hp, more than the PW and still with a 2240 cubic inch displacement... and no special gas.
@@tricosteryl Highest performing Hanger Queen of WW2
Outstanding and superb video,DARK DOCS!
U.K. is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. England is just one part.
My understanding is, that it was more a matter of training for the startup procedure, as it was at that point it could cause unwanted fires, if incorrectly performed. Those pilots more familiar with a V12 configuration of a Merlin variant's, would invariable fail in the startup protocols, till the RAF became more familiar with the engine's operation. This also called for retraining of the airmen on the ground, who serviced the monster H Block 24 cylinder beast. Initially far too little time was spared for this education, resulting in a lot of mix-ups and needless tragedies. The engine itself being a very sound one.
Unfortunately, it seems that they were all destroyed after the war, leaving no examples of flying or museum models. Though I would be delighted to be corrected on this.
Don't know enough to say that aircraft was the first fighter bomber.
These aircraft came first and some to the same development time.
Hurricane
P-40
P-47
A-36 APACHI wich came with built in drag flaps in the wings for dive bombing.
Fw-190f
Any advice is welcome.
The .303 machine guns its almost Unbelivable in a Fighter,specialy in that time of the war.
Outstanding coverage of a great plane. Well Done Sir.
nice video but the last statement is very spurious
Is it just me or is the background music the Israeli National Anthem?
This and the Mosquito are my favourite aeroplanes to build from the Airfix models.
Thanks for Hatikva in the background!
Napier made some really great engines, including the Deltic 3000hp opposed piston sleeve valve 'triangular' engine which was used in naval patrol boats ( it had a high power to weight ratio and was very compact ) and many powerful railway locomotives, once heard you never forgot the sound of a Deltic engine on the main line at 100mph... I heard the Sabre started out at over 2500hp and went up to about 4000hp, no wonder it had some teething problems, also the problems with airframe were due to the high speeds of the Typhoon.
Not quite 4,000, about 3,500. From memory in the MkVII.
Not sure how taking the “basic hurricane design “ and making it able to take the he Napier engine are in the same stable 🤔
Loved the video and footage
Kind regards Carl
Really good video,
However the late model Spifires were the FW 190s nemesis
hence the ground attack role of Tempest...dam cool plane.
Have to mention , the more i read about the FW 190..the more i am
impressed considering all the bombed factories.
Hi. A wonderful video for an underrated airplane. Thank you for posting it. Isn't that 'Hatikvah' - Israel national anthem - playing in the background? What a beautiful anthem! Thanks for playing it!
Is it just me - or is the background music at about two min in "Hatikvah" - the national anthem of Israel? It is a nice piece of music, just one I wouldn't expect in a documentary about a woefully underappreciated UK fighter. Even in this piece, they didn't mention chasing V1s.
FW 190 sees Typhoon coming behind
Panics
I was at a model aircraft meeting on Hounslow Heath in the 1940s when one of these aircraft made a low pass over the crowd. The commentator said the plane had one horsepower for every pound of its weight. Never did find out if that was true.
Any time i look at the Hawker Typhoon it strangely reminds me of that 60s lotus f1 car that had an H-16. Small body, ridiculous engine. Fucking love it
Is there a reason you used the Israeli National Anthem "hatikva" as the background music or did you just not know
Beautiful looking planes,& they had teeth
Great information-------thank you.
Harder to take down than most pilots sat in an armoured cockpit and it was a large aircraft that could survive hits that others would not It could catch up and destroy FW 190 below 20,000 feet. 1.5 tonne engine. Cruiser broadside equivalent plus 4 20mm cannons. Most Lethal area for aircraft is ground attack so many losses but what it did to the ground target was devastating. Typhoons alone stopped and destroyed an armoured column of 300 German vehicles who where just about to attack US troops who had broken out of the Bocage. Initially engine had problems with sleeves and build quality, abuse using battle power while not in battle overloaded engines as well, governors being messed with? Airframe problems early on with tail structural problems related to elevator flutter and vibration. Problems where ironed out and reliable plane emerged. Pilots had to go on oxygen masks at engine start due to exhaust leakage into cockpit but it cleared your head quickly apparently. 7.5 tons of bar room slugger.
Speed is important to those whom think speed to be important.
Fantastic stuff - thank you for this! I have subscribed.