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FINALLY A MASTERING ENGINEER THAT IS REALLY HONEST!
if your mix is not translating to other systems mastering is not the moment to fix this. actually, mastering is just needed if someone wants a fresh pair of ears to listen over it and give it a tiny bit of pepper or salt. but in general I think, if you are confident that your song is finished after mixing, then its finished. everything that is done in mastering can also be done at the mixing stage and therefore you can make the changes more effectively on individual elements or the mixbus when needed. its more about another opinion, but too many people think its a necessity and in the very last stage the song will get super dope and before mastering it is just mediocre. Mastering is not obsolete, but overhyped as f*** . IMO.
Now that’s what I call keeping it real
Thanks for breaking the stigma, hundreds of my unprocessed beats sound amazing anyways, greats video, much love.
I needed to hear this. Thank you.
I'm in the streaky academy. This guy knows his stuff.
Streaky you done did it this time, mastering engineers are coming for you lol
😂😂😂
Word up here!
That's why i always say my clients, i don't do mastering i just make it louder. 🔊😅
😂😂😂😂😂😂haha am a gonna stop doing that shit bro,ahhaa sometimes I finish my mix and I hear it good and nice buh I do confuse either to leave it or still master it buh the mix is ok hmm thanks Papa I love you
Mastering is important like Quality Control is important
I’ve noticed it too...i spend so much time in the arrangement/mix stage that i don’t even need an actual “mastering” because it often ruins the balance of the sound that i’ve carefully crafted previously...
Sometimes I just need to put my mix into ozone 9 to analyse it and give me a preset, tweak the loudness, check if my bass is mono, a bit stereo widening and its ready. When I have to do more than that, I got to check my mix 🤷♂️
Bass needs to be in mono?
@@acidjaxeertknad8704no it does, it’s all dependant on the genre song and style that your going for, you can but it in mono but there’s a good chance you’ll destroy your low end in the process
@@acidjaxeertknad8704for most genres yes., but some genres of music you can have a fatter wider bass that’s not totally mono. Mono means straight down the middle just Incase you didn’t know
@@acidjaxeertknad8704 generally, you want the main bass to sit at the bottom of your mix. if you widen your bass the lower end will fuck with everything else in the stereo field in my experience.
Appreciate your honesty about this. I needed to hear it. I've been A/Bing 2 versions of my tracks - one I've 'mastered' and one with just the ProL2 on transparent. I'm having a hard admitting the one with just the limiter sounds better when accurately level matched.
Great channel, great tips, thank you very much
Wow, I love this one dude. I recently started working on my acoustic album, and everything is sounding great until I go into mastering lol.
Nice one streaky. In theory (where we want to live) there would never need mastering.
Fortunately even very nice mix benefits from your mastering.
I d like too ear why you need mastering and what is it for.
For exemple to have the track in a working order, with coherence between tracks level etc. With consistent duration for every given supports.
Or for doing not much because it s what’s needed.
Have a nice weekend 🍻
Spot on. You have single-handedly ended the grift of the ‘mastering engineer’ frauds.
Thanks for this, was busting my mind trying to figure out how much of a difference it would ACTUALLY make.
Sometimes pressing from all countries have the exact same mastering. However, I have noticed with both LP and CD, that where mastering is involved, Japanese mastering techiques tend to have eq favoring brightness (and they have the best materials and packaging). UK tends to be more "tube like" and rich in tone, and for some reason the USA likes compression and reverb. That is a very GENERALIZED observation. So, I am aware there will be a LOT of exceptions.
✨Thank you, Sir, 🙏✨
Yeah man. I haven't mastered for years.
Also, you don't need mixing...
Actually, you don't even have to do anything
Simplicity wins.
You gotta pay taxes man.
@@denhodaneli8950 facts
Well if the production is done in a great way you really don't need mixing :D
HOW ARE YOU ALSO IN THIS COMMUNITY WHAT
Touché
Ok Sir. Noted
I think mastering is important depending on the genre personally. I don’t find myself coming to edm nearly as much as I do rock, or even rap! I love you and thanks for the positivity ✌️
Enough said.
Truly INTELLIGENT 🎉❤🎉❤Sir you are Ginious
You can get it sounding much better than I can though
Great video. I master for people and myself but for my new single i wanted to go all out and hire you but for whatever reason your website wouldnt accept my credit/debit card. So i just slept on it and realized the next day my mix/master was perfect the way it was, lol. Next single though im hitting you up!
Best 46 seconds of my life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought about it too so I mean I see the remark, After the mix it was so good that I could not even feel the difference.
mixers get the ball onto the 3 yard line. mastering engineers get the ball in the end zone. it's valuable to get the ball in the end zone, rather than settle for a field goal.
Deep..
I mix THROUGH mastering because otherwise levels change and eq sounds good on some things and worse on others. I keep the final mastering stuff running to glue it as I mix and alter the individual tracks so it all sounds good. It's really just an overall mix.
Good insight
This is so true, I’ve made a psychill track recently that literally sounds perfect. I’m going to send to you to do a master for it soon via your website.
Truth!
So true.
Copy that boss 🔥👊
It always seemed weird to me that we even divide these things up. Mastering is just organically part of mixing. I mean are there really people who mix with nothing on their master bus?
I understand why you might want to have people who spend all day long only mixing or only mastering so they can maximise their skillset at that, but let's be honest, most of us are doing this in our bedrooms, and it seems a bit goofy to pay a mastering engineer when you're not also paying a producer, engineer, etc. - just do it yourself!
Fresh ears
Bedroom producers need mastering engineers more than anybody. Poor monitoring, inexperience, bad (mix) decision making; these things are all far more common amongst non-pros. If it's a hobby that's one thing, but if you're ready to break out of the bedroom you'll easily justify the cost of such experienced ears proofreading your music.
I respectfully disagree. Mixing and mastering are wholly separate stages of the process. It's not simply about doing stuff to the 2-bus. You can do all kinds of stuff to the 2-bus during mixing, but that's not mastering. Mastering is simply preparing a FINISHED mix for distribution. That might mean simply adding a bit of level or inserting ISRC codes, or it might mean a bit more processing,. But it's not mixing.
@@LS-ud7do You could make the same argument for them hiring producers though, surely?
@@Streaky_com Yes that’s a good point. Bouncing something off someone else, especially a very skilled listener, is always a great idea.
Exactly. Just finish it off with about 2-3db of soft clipping. And around 1db of limiting at -1. And you are good
Respect for streaky for being open about it. But imo now u need mastering more than ever because of how many tracks are done in less than average rooms. So a tuned mastering room with good mastering ears are needed now more than ever
This man knows,
Streaky trying to talk himself out of a job here. I disagree with the notion that mastering is somehow there to fix a mix and that if the mix is good enough it doesn't need to be mastered.
Depends on your goals, I suppose. The best mixing engineers on the planet all have their mixes mastered.
After all, what is "mastering?" It's preparing a finished mix for distribution (vinyl, CD, streaming, whatever). If the mix is perfect, then great - maybe all the mastering engineer will do is make sure everything is properly formatted for the given distribution platform. Maybe all he or she does is add a bit of level. A great mixing engineer won't want balances to change during mastering. For most of us, however, the mastering engineer is going to be a fresh set of ears with years or experience listening to thousands of tracks on great monitors in great rooms and will be able to improve the finished product that last couple of percent and will properly prepare our tracks for distribution.
So, sure, if you don't care about your project being as good as it can possibly be and if you have no plans to distribute your music to anybody other than family and friends via whatever low-res social media platform you prefer, then you don't need mastering.
For anybody who wants their projects to be the best they can be and wants their tracks properly prepared for distribution, a talented, experienced mastering engineer is critical.
Indeed
Great answer.
@@Streaky_com
You know when someone's an actual mastering engineer and watched a video like this....... 😏
I will disagree. I have never felt the need to master my music after mixing. The sound from all the instruments were at the volume I felt comfortable at, and blended together good. The EQ was right, so I didn't need to go through and turn anything range wise up or down, and compression was never an issue.
@@trendmassacre8423
You must have a powerful computer, running all those plugins 😏
👋, I like this top!c that is a bit paradoxal . It a bit the science of exceptions. To do great mix you need a great sounding room with great acoustic great speakers, or a great pair of expensive headphones. Than mix engineer who Knows what they are doing or, if you are an artist to be in this situation you ll need to be a bit successful. So at the end those high profile ends up to mastering anyway. Then it s the paradox of the one that need the less mastering that finally ends in the great mastering rooms. 😋
It's no coincidence that the people at the top are the most thorough in their craft.
@@LS-ud7do so true. 😀
Agree the mastering was designed to get it fit for a medium all that’s really provided now is a sweetening - a mix checkup, most punters won’t care if it’s a decent song what’s been done if it’s reasonably mixed.
Good point, but what about loudness?
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Finally someone who tells the truth🙌🙌🙌
really good vids
Hey, thank you, I recently paid 50$ to a friend for mastering and it sounds worse than the original even on the 3rd attempt, so I released only mixed version. And now thinking about how to proceed given that I release a lot.
I disagree with you ... I discovered the world of mastering from January 2021 and from there I start documenting myself as much as possible on how to get high in mastering, and yesterday I discovered the most beautiful trick I had ever heard, that is putting a clipper before a limiter and hearing these things after months and months of pure documentation I am deeply sorry
Congratulations, you reinvented the wheel.
Streaky : Why you don’t Need Mastering .!
Streaky also:
Ah fuck got played by myself !¥
mastering, especially if Streaky does it ( not a fan comment, I tried a few mastering engineers ), is, for me anyway ( hobbiest home recording wannabe ), peace of mind x
100%
Good to know man! My mixes sound great on headphones, but awful in bluetooth speaker or in my car. I thought Mastering could help. What do you think??
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So no glass master?
Question 🙋♂️ in every country and even in the United States will the cd 💿 aka vinyl cassette tape will the sound that the artist is sing 🎤 like tears for fears advice for the young at heart ❤️ album 💿 the seeds of love will the songs will be in English according to the mastering engineer?
I was just mastering my first track on a new music album and needed a break. So I came here just to get some freak'n good advise from good ol' Streaky. After this video, I threw my master track out the window. Naw j/k :p
LoL !!!
I always thought mastering engineers also sorted out ISRC data and ya know bar code shit n that. So, artists, n songwriters get paid I may be wrong.
'IF your mix is sounding great'. And how do you know? 'Sounding great' is not even the ultimate goal I think, it's a s much about feel and impact. A good mastering engineer is the best investment you can make.
Well, sometimes the version of my track that I've put a limiter and a saturator with soft clip.. sounds good with my mastered version..hahaha but yeah mastering, if only needed...
Wow
"See I don't have to fork out all that dough", hahaha......If I have a great mix that sounds professional.
your absolute BEST video, as a producer, couldnt agree more, eqing your master as a producer is a terrible idea, ALL your sounds will be biased when working on them
I’m really just looking to get my mix louder
People are misunderstanding. He is not denying the mastering stage. When you work with major label, the studio mastering is inevitable.
He’s not wrong.
A mix still needs to be brought to level no?
Dear reader, the likelyhood that your mix is in the few % that cannot be improved by a great mastering engineer is quiet low. Be honest with yourself, don't cut corners, don't piss your art away at the last hurdle. Conversley; If you're asking yourself weather the cost of mastering is worth it then it's probably not at this stage in your career.
I've mixed it all and it already sounds amazing but it just isn't loud enough because I'm avoiding going into the red. I've got the volume right on the line. What do I do?
Use some limiter/clipper or something like that. It's going to be louder but the limiter will keep your song safe
Have a question sir. Do i need to have a different mix for mobile phones?
No
@@Streaky_com Thanks 😊
gordon ramsey of audio engineering??
First view!
If that’s mastering then “mastering” engineers will be out of work pretty soon as that technical part is going to be perfectly made by software ( and some would argue it already is ).
In my opinion master is more than that, mastering is helping the whole project coming together and improving the overall quality of the track(s) even if that means having to feedback and even change the mix before mastering sometimes.
Otherwise what’s the point of even having speakers if all you do is box it into some technical specifications which can mostly be verified by reading values from analysers ? 😅
Okay but relax 😂
NO, you need ANALOG magic!
Yea, I was wondering what the purpose of this video is. To turn artists against mastering engineers? I don't know. It's just word nitpicking and PR.
Well i dont have a great mix, i need mastering 🤣🤣
😂 haha funny one but most of the mastering that I do (mostly for non-professional artists) is for that reason 😂 To save the mix haha ! One of the realities is that it is very difficult to mix in a perfect way unless you are a pro mixing engineer (or unless you pay a pro engineer but another reality is that most non-professional musicians do not have the money for this) so in these cases, some acrobatic moves at the mastering step can enhance the mix a lot, but the true solution would always be to make the mix perfect instead. There are many advices given here and there by pro engineers on UA-cam, they are totally right, however they live in the world of professionals where most mixes are close to perfection so at the mastering stage they have just the "minimum" to do and that's it. Outside of this "perfect world", there are truly non-perfect conditions and often we have to make music like how a bush pilot would bring its airplane to land in the jungle - the technique would be different than landing a 747 on a perfect landing runway. Some engineers would say: "just improve the recording conditions", "just improve the mix", etc... and keep the mastering minimal, however in this era in 2021, home recording by non-professional artists is everywhere and they don't have money or time to invest for better results, it's a reality I live in each single day, so I am thinking (I may be totally wrong though) that the mastering techniques should be different than in "almost perfect" conditions and that we have to "push harder" at the mastering step to make the song better, but this is just my opinion. Some artists working with me love this so I guess I am not totally wrong. But I always encourage them to make their recordings and mixes better in the future, as this is the real best solution always.
@@themagicianofsound awesome response
@@themagicianofsound really amazing response thank you for taking the time to write that
@@TheHonestTruth You are welcome my friend ! 🙏 I completely forgot that I wrote this comment, thank you for bringing me back in the past 😂🤣. Have a wonderful day ! 🌞
2023 feb
says the guy who makes a living mastering and mixing , stop low cutting the biz.
But, you need mastering tho...
Of course but as a check not a change…unless needed
Yeah well, yes and no c'mon. You can do more than just little fixing in mastering
Next episode: "Why you don't need to mix a track"
I master just to ruin the mix. To say it's mastered as well.
If you want the best out of the material don’t listen to this guy. Record your best, mix your pieces, and put wax on with mastering. A clean floor looks good but buff it , sheesh I see myself.
You just need AI plugins! 🙃
Cheat codes are almost there.
Just not true.
I am just mastering as I mix for streaming services right now... I don't see the need, given the parameters that the streaming services are presenting... CD and vinyl are a totally different story...
Yeah it's a bit nuts BUTTT I will say this....
SoundCloud has some of the best audio limiting I've heard in my LIFE lol...idk what the heck they do once you upload your tunes but MAN they sound good haha
I started mastering in 2020 before that I feel like I was get more traction think the mastering messed up the feel of my tracks I like great mixes
CD??? are you from ancient time???
Sometimes it's just . 5% addition of a passive eq with HARDWARE 👌🤌