Sorry, but this is a "shake hands with danger" moment. This is not light duty suburban stuff, this is industrial earth moving/construction equipment and he doesn't even have a manual. What he was doing with the electric is insane. What he SHOULD have done was connect the 12v to the ground (and disconnect the ground side of the trouble light from the battery) and then used the probe end to put power to those wires. By doing it that way, the bulb becomes a current limit device and a fuse. Bypassing fuses is a horrible idea. At one point when Mustie was putting power to the connector, the connector started glowing.
He's not a snow flake. He obviously has knowledge. No reason to make fun of knowledge... unless you are a fool and a moron. Learn from those with experience. Isnt that why you watch mustie1??? Darren is not a God. He can learn, too.
This has been a very VERY difficult video for me to watch. Just simply because I want to help! I grew up in a Case 580 series backhoe. My dad was "the guy" that people called for dangerous and intricate digging in my area. He literally has tens of thousands of hours in the seat of a Case 580 series backhoe. All the way from his first 580B up to the last 580 super K he still owns that runs awesome yet. I too can run it but my dad is a true artist with that machine. Always made the difficult jobs look like a kid playing in a sandbox. I love fixing these backhoes up, rebuilding the cylinders and replacing worn pins and bushings. Even at 6600 hours I believe this super L will be a great machine for you!
My dad started with an Ford 801 Powermaster backhoe back in the early 60’s. Sold the Ford and bought an International Harvester backhoe in 1975. He sold the IH and bought a Ford 555 backhoe in the late 90’s. He was an awesome backhoe operator and made digging with his backhoes look easy.
@@edwardkane3237 it's an amazing thing to watch for sure!! Especially for a kiddo that looks up to his dad so much. I remember hours of watching him run that thing until I was old enough to get in the trench and run the manual backhoe(shovel). Heck to this very day if I'm digging something that's kicking my butt I'm not above giving the old man a ring and have him run the machine and me run the shovel. At 73 he's not as smooth as he once was but I'd still put him up against any of the other operators in our area. If your dad has worn out as many backhoes as my dad has, which it appears he has, then I can assume that your father's story is much the same as my dad's.
Hey Mustie, the bottom left button on the rhs guage panel (6 switches) operates the front axle engage or disengage. Recommend to only use 4 wheel drive in first or second gear and 2 wheel drive on hard surfaces at speed. The interior dome light switch is the top switch to the left of the steering wheel. Good luck with your project, i'm enjoying the ride along.
I hope he reads your comment. I thought when he powered up the 4 wheel drive switch right before he took the camera off, it lit up. That would indicate a servo is working. Get knowledge. I hope it helps him. 👍
Hello Mustie. You really have my attention on this one. I retired from a National Cemetery and this was one of the Backhoes we had. We used the Case 580's, 590's Super E, Super L. You probably know by now but when you are going to lock the boom, you pull the lever toward you and when the boom gets near the cab you push the lever the oppisite way, away from you and the boom will lock. These are easy to maintain and work on. Thanks for the video.
It is really hard to sit here and watch when you know how to get the boom to come back. We had this feature on a CAT I operated in the oil fields. The old timers had a laugh sitting back watching me struggle my first time trying to get it latched. Lol
@@markallen200 I agree Mark. It’s driving me crazy watching Mustie struggle. I want to be there so bad to show him how to operate it. I ran those for 24 years.
The front tires are still somewhat useful even when worn out in the center because the lugs on the shoulders will still give some, though less, traction. Any advice on what type, or brands, of oil are best for old rubber seals and hoses? hopefully not too expensive to replace when it leaks? I have trouble working on my cylinder seals because the cylinders are too heavy to lift with the machine disabled. It can fix another one but has no way to fix itself.
Hi Musti, The button on the bucket control is a transmission cut out switch. Used when loading a truck, you can disengage the transmission when dumping and shift your shuttle in reverse. This way you can throttle up while dumping to speed up the process. If that makes any sense. The button on the gear shifter is to disengage transmission just so you can shift on the fly. Love you videos...been watching for quite awhile. I have been operating Case backhoes since the early 70's. Can't wait to see the improvements on this one!
Just be aware that on some loaders that button is to change from bucket tilt to added implement operation at the front like a bale grip or claw. So it varies a bit, but given what you says it makes sense for this one.
Way to go man you deserve 💯% of respect for your channel awesome content you Rock! My favorite channel ever and I hope you continue doing amazing work for this amazing channel musty! I love you so very much your very talented and funny keep up the good work thanks buddy!!!😊😊😊❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉
Nice tractor. It awesome that you got the grass and weeds as a bonus with the plow. That is one suckie thing about buying used equipment, is people may have gone in and sliced and diced up your wiring.
Retired operator here and I would suggest fixing and flipping this backhoe. Then get a excavator. Backhoe's are a pain to own and run. Best wishes in the new year Mustie!
Thanks for adding the footage of the CORGI. My daughter and I watch regularly and were pleased to see our favorite dog breed on this episode. No better way to learn the big stuff other than just going for it. Enjoy the 580!
Welcome to the large machinery ownership group. With big machines comes big repair bills. Working on my Bobcat T330 and spent $900 on a couple pins, bushings and small linkages.
Hey Mustie1, thanks for the videos! I thought I would share an experience that I had with a Honda Hippo (Japanese Domestic Market) Generator. I tried the usual, carb clean, ultrasonic cleaner, low oil cut off switch bypass.... would run for about 5 seconds and die.... Was driving me mad, I couldn't figure it out... one last UA-cam check before it goes in the heap... I found a video of a generator with a clogged exhaust and thought that this couldn't be my problem... So i went through the carb again..... same trouble.... then figured it was worth the time to remove the muffler just by some chance (very small I thought) and it ran like a champ. for some reason I have never seen this happen in your videos and you are the GURU in my eyes. Just thought you could add the exhaust in one of your trouble shooting vids, Im sure the masses would find it useful. Thanks again for your time and dedication to all of us. Scott in Japan.
When I was a kid I spent my summers in Italy, up in the hills of Tuscany. One of the house staff was a funny Swiss chap who drove an old Renault R4. Sometimes he wouldn't drive it all the way up the farm track to the house but park just off the track a few hundred metres below. One evening he walked off to the car to go home, only to return ten or 15 minutes later, asking for help because the car was acting up. A bunch of people walked to the car and there it sat, almost perpendicular to the track where he'd backed out of his parking spot. He tried to start the engine but it made the weirdest noises and died immediately. Took us a few minutes to realise what was going on but someone noticed that he'd backed too far and buried the tail pipe in the soft dirt bank on the other side of the road, completely clogging the exhaust 😀 Pushing the car forward just a few cms and clearing the tail pipe fixed everything.
Watching electrical diagnostics is always cool. It also always seems like when there are a bunch of random electrical problems on a machine it can usually be one small issue. Like a shorted wire, a wire hooked up wrong, or a bad ground.
Same here. Getting ready to go get the week's groceries watching a Mustie1 video. Every Sunday morning for me for as long as I can remember now. (Well, past couple of years anyway 😉)
Misti 1 that machine is priceless there is nothing wrong with it it just needs a good operator! And some lovin! That’s a 20,000 fall or machine all day long 👍
Awesome buy. I love watching videos of work on larger machines( camarata, diesel creek etc). I look forward to a few more episodes on this machine, can’t wait!
For the travel lock to work, bring up the rpm then pull your control all the way back and then push it forward as soon as the cylinder reaches the end of its travel and it will reverse and lock.
I repaired a lot of Case 580s & 590s over the years for plumbing contractors in NYC. Easy machines to operate and repair. Do yourself a favor and get the manual which should include a parts section for that machine if you're keeping it.
Good morning , Wishing everybody a Merry Christmas / Happy Holidays as to what ever it is that you celebrate. Just everybody please be Happy and be Safe !
The button on the bucket control is a momentary switch for neutral so you can Rev the engine while lifting load the one on the gear selection is like a clutch to disengage so you can shift while in motion
You said 'not the norm for the channel'. Other than VW there is no "norm'" for you, other than smaller projects. You build bicycles, motorcycles, mowers, chainsaws, and the list goes on. Congrats on having a really large money pit to add to your stable of vehicles. Thanks for sharing.
That thing is perfect. As a kid I believe every kid had the metal toy of this backhoe. It would be worth a fortune where I’m at. Watch as soon as you fix the outrigger cylinders the hydraulics will start to break down the line till you’ve changed every seal and changed every hose. That’s the curse of hydraulic systems in my experience.
Had one of these. Excellent machines many used parts around. Cummins/ Case motors simple to service. Hoses and cylinder packings typical issues. Buy some big wrenches and torches.. You will need them.
The 3rd wire on the switches is the ground for the bulb in the switch (black w/yel IIRC.). Yes, those Scotchlock IDC connectors helped pay for my EE degree. Worked at a shop we repaired them almost daily. They were bad back in the '70s when they came out now we have the cheap Chinese copies. The rear wiper is right next to the front one. that is the 3-pos rotary switch on the side controls that did nothing. The one next it did the front
Buddy, I know exactly what you mean about those darn connectors. I was working in a foreign car shop in the late 70s and if a car had an electrical problem nine times out of ten it was one of those. Volvo was particularly bad about it. And a Merry Christmas to all Mustie fans from North Carolina farm country!
My very first encounter with those @&%!!* connectors was on my first car in '73 when I installed Marshal driving lamps on it. Instant drama. Never, ever used them. They should be made illegal.
Make sure you put a compatible oil in the hydraulic system and the transmission. I was a mechanic for Case IH in the 90s. There was a hydraulic oil that Case said not to use in their equipment. It was a generic oil available at farm stores and it was pretty popular at the time but I can t remember the name. Anyway we had a customer that bought a new 300 hp 4wd tractor. They had it about a month and pinched a hyd hose in half on a Sunday. They couldn't t get Case hydraulic oil so they put the don t use type in instead. A weekblater the new tractor was in our shop. The Trans hydraulic and brakes all used a common oil . The oil they put in it caused the glue holding the disc material to the steel plates on all the clutches and brakes to dissolve. The entire tractor had to be disassembled except for the engine and all that disc material had to be cleaned out of every passage pump bearing sump and any place else you can think of. All the disc's had to be replaced and then reassembled. There was no warranty because they put the wrong oil in it. The cost to them was around 15000 dollars. It was a very expensive ordeal.
I remember when that model was new, it was the cat's pajamas. They had all the bells and whistles, 4x4, stereo, ac, comfy cabin, etc. That one looks barely used. Thanks for the help Brian. What a great find. Cheers!
Instead of clipping a hot lead to the probe of your 12v test light, disconnect the ground from the testlight and put the 12v on the ground side of the test light, this will effectively put the light bulb in the circuit and "current limit" what you are doing. The way you are doing it is basically bypassing the fuse and amps can jump to infinity. But, if instead, you are running the hot through the test light, that bulb will always provide enough resistance that you will not cause your connectors to glow like you did in this video. The way you are doing it (putting a hot on the probe side) allows the current to jump to infinity. The way I am saying will always current-limit you to that of the lightbulb. A dead short cannot happen through a light bulb. At worst, the bulb will blow.
I really liked the red alligator clip in parallel to provide 12 volts all he had to do was connect the alligator clip of the test light to bat pos and provide current limited voltage to the circuit under test. Scary electrical troubleshooting.
That beast was top of the line in its day, and still even today with all the features. Extendahoe, 4x4, those are expensive options. Such an awesome machine.
First thanks for hanging at Micks live yesterday cool 👍 You're going to make money now with that bad-boy ! Timing couldn't be better we got about a half a foot last night !
Cummins 4BT. It really is a 12 valve 5.9 Cummins minus 2 cylinders. Good engines that run better if you run them a bit hard.This engine series was created for Case before it ever hit the street in a Dodge. My grandfather worked building these engines in Columbus for years. The 4BT is a bit pricey to repair but yours sounds healthy. Nice rig
Every Case 580 I have operated from a D to a Super K you have to pull the boom lever towards you with a little gusto. Not crazy but just enough momentum. When you are close push the lever away from you and that keeps boom from slamming the tractor hard and let’s the boom lock. It’s an art of coordination but you’ll get it!
Boom cylinder stow position works (over Center) pull cylinder into back position and as soon as it’s bottomed out throw lever forward quickly to extend the boom! It will scare you as you think it’s going to come into the cab!! Some speed helps as momentum in what carry’s it over center!!
My dad has a 580E that he’s had for 30+ years and it’s always been a good machine. He says he doesn’t know how anyone lives without one. I’m sure you’ll love having it around the shop.
Abom79 has done a few videos on spray welding cylinders and refurbing the seals/rings. Might be worth looking into a local shop that does spray welding or give Adam a shout and see if he knows people in your area.
Everyone's going bigger. I just watched a Marty T vid where he went from a mini tractor to a big bulldozer inside a week and now Mustie's on a similar track with the Backhoe. Interesting project - lot of electrical and hydraulics challenges. Not one that will be fixed overnight but I'm looking forward to seeing what you can make of it.
My man mustie now has a backhoe, a forklift, a welding trailer, a terramite, a bucket truck. I need a recap of where he’s keeping his stuff lol his wife is a saint lol I’m so jealous!!!
👍👌👏 This seems to be a really good machine, looks really well built too. Congrats for purchasing it. I wish you and your family a wonderful Christmas time and a happy new year. Best regards, luck and health.
Given how that wiring looked, I'd be pretty tempting to change out all of those bulbs for much brighter LEDs and drop the fuse ratings down by 50% even if you get it straightened out. _Something_ melted it down the first time, but there's no need to run that much power with better technology available. 100W of LED (10A) will burn your eyes out of your skull.
No need to drop the fuse ratings even if one opted for LEDs. The rating of the fuse does not determine how many amps flow through a circuit, only at what amp draw the fuse will open/fail. And the size of fuse in any application is based on the ampacity of the circuit conductors so that if amp draw is too great, the fuse will fail and protect the wiring.
@Larry Walker Except the very clear evidence that the fuses didn't protect the wiring. The wiring is all fried. The entire point I'm making here is that we don't know what caused the original failure. It could be poor design, poor maintenance, or just a ghost in the machine. You could spend years chasing down the true root cause, while it melts down over and over, even after you repair all of the obvious failures. Or, you could just cut the load on the circuits in half, as well as the fuse ratings so the fuses actually do protect the wiring, and probably not worry about it again. Upgrading to LED is an upgrade regardless. @@BigBaddaBoom Everything being equal, it wouldn't hurt. I don't think 12v direct replacement LEDs are particularly prone to fail in a ways in which they burst into flames or anything, but..? There's no particular reason to have a fuse in the circuit that is twice the value that it requires, so, there wouldn't be any harm in it even ignoring my original point.
@@TheBrokenLife Fuses didn't protect the wiring because... they're not in circuit. He shows the back of them at 1:16:40 - there's no wire coming out of either of the fuses, someone bodged it, completely bypassing the fuse box.
Nice find! Not your typical Briggs & Stratton of VW, but you’re fearless so let’s get it done. TLBs are so versatile and useful. Great to have around especially if they can get enough work to support themselves. I’m envious! Merry Christmas!
Great video D. looks like you will have content well in to 2022. You know, there are enough people with 580 out there, I'm sure one of them might be willing to put a copy of the 580 service manual under the tree for you. Thank you for what you do, you have taught me alot! My wife on the other hand ..... isnt so keen on your channel. I keep getting the WHAT about my kitchen remodel? question. Merry Christmas to you and all in the Mustie1 nation.
I believe the red button is a D-Clutch. Which does exactly what you said, disengage the clutch. So you can rev the engine while operating the hydraulics.
I watch your videos but I subscribed when I saw this one . I have that exact tractor and I will have to tell you you will be amazed at the abilities of that machine . Looking forward to the restoration process.
LED bulbs would eliminate the high current draw from the lights and give you better working light. Looking forward to more on this project! Thanks Mustie1 and Merry Christmas to you and Mrs. Mustie1!
Looks about like my 580 SL (mine is a series 2) except yours has much better paint and I dont have the thumb on the hoe. That extend a hoe is a nice feature. Only 5 minutes in and cant wait to see how many attempts it takes to relock the hoe in to place. Took me a little while to get the hang of it. Edit: Im sure you may have figured this out, but to get the hoe locked. Bring it all the way back and just before it stops push the stick forward. This relieves enough pressure to allow it to come back the few extra inches to allow the lock the catch. I know it seems counter intuitive but that's how it's done. Bad design by Case in my opinion. It does need a little bit of momentum to get it up but not too crazy and make sure the boom is fully curled in as well. 4 wheel drive is a toggle switch on the panel to the right. Along with front and rear lights. There might be a switch for "comfort ride". It automatically adjusts the loader bucket while driving to minimize jarring. Just be sure to have it off while using the loader. Bottom left toggle near the lights is the 4 wheel drive. Pretty sure that weight is stock. Ours has it too. Might be part of the hoe option.
What could Mustie1 offer as a early Christmas gift to his viewers? Everybody's favourite "toy" a backhoe or JCB as they tend to be known in the UK. Fantastic, nothing fazes him, so this will be video gold.. thanks for posting, looking forward to seeing you sorting it out. Merry Christmas to you and all your viewers. Happy New Year
I have noticed an increasing JCB presence here in the states. My father bought one about 10 years ago and I had never heard of one before that. Now I see them rather frequently.
Merry Christmas to Mustie1 and the mustie nation(all us viewers) !! Wow, Darren u sure did pick an ambitious end of 2021 project(backhoe) to tackle !!🎄, 🎉 and a happy HEALTHY new year !!
Just incase you don't release another video, before the big day.. '' Merry Christmas Mustie1 '' & Thank you for all the video's that really have kept me going though this tuff year :)
If you splice that two wire before, you don't have fused circuit. Best thing to do is to set new wire for plus on bought fuse on one leg and on another one to put separate existing wire. Your work is great, enjoy to see.
Oh, Mustie! You’re going to have some fun with that one. The ultimate Tonka toy. Congratulations!
The bigger the toy the bigger the joy.🤔🤔🤪 .......NOT
Sorry, but this is a "shake hands with danger" moment. This is not light duty suburban stuff, this is industrial earth moving/construction equipment and he doesn't even have a manual.
What he was doing with the electric is insane. What he SHOULD have done was connect the 12v to the ground (and disconnect the ground side of the trouble light from the battery) and then used the probe end to put power to those wires. By doing it that way, the bulb becomes a current limit device and a fuse. Bypassing fuses is a horrible idea. At one point when Mustie was putting power to the connector, the connector started glowing.
He's not a snow flake. He obviously has knowledge. No reason to make fun of knowledge... unless you are a fool and a moron. Learn from those with experience. Isnt that why you watch mustie1??? Darren is not a God. He can learn, too.
@@tarstarkusz "Sorry, but this is a "shake hands with danger" moment." - That says so much about you as a person.
Yes sir ! Mopar Madness is in Mustie's house
Merry Christmas from my family to yours
Clapped out? Matt at Diesel Creek would consider this too new to bother with, but that's him. Also, I'm loving the twice-a-week Mustie lately!
Was coming to the comments to say something similar. Starting on first crank? Fancy!
Yep, too much works on this one for Matt. If it doesn't need 3 batteries, 2 tires, and $700 hydraulic hose, that's cheating.
Enjoy them BOTH.
@@MGower4465 🤣🤣🤣
@@MGower4465 Same for Andrew Camarata plus welding 1/2" steel parts !
This has been a very VERY difficult video for me to watch. Just simply because I want to help! I grew up in a Case 580 series backhoe. My dad was "the guy" that people called for dangerous and intricate digging in my area. He literally has tens of thousands of hours in the seat of a Case 580 series backhoe. All the way from his first 580B up to the last 580 super K he still owns that runs awesome yet. I too can run it but my dad is a true artist with that machine. Always made the difficult jobs look like a kid playing in a sandbox.
I love fixing these backhoes up, rebuilding the cylinders and replacing worn pins and bushings. Even at 6600 hours I believe this super L will be a great machine for you!
My dad started with an Ford 801 Powermaster backhoe back in the early 60’s. Sold the Ford and bought an International Harvester backhoe in 1975. He sold the IH and bought a Ford 555 backhoe in the late 90’s. He was an awesome backhoe operator and made digging with his backhoes look easy.
@@edwardkane3237 it's an amazing thing to watch for sure!! Especially for a kiddo that looks up to his dad so much. I remember hours of watching him run that thing until I was old enough to get in the trench and run the manual backhoe(shovel). Heck to this very day if I'm digging something that's kicking my butt I'm not above giving the old man a ring and have him run the machine and me run the shovel. At 73 he's not as smooth as he once was but I'd still put him up against any of the other operators in our area.
If your dad has worn out as many backhoes as my dad has, which it appears he has, then I can assume that your father's story is much the same as my dad's.
Merry Christmas Mustie1 and to the whole community. Have a good one.
You too eh! Thank you! 🎅👋
Merry Christmas my friend
thx u2!
You too!
Thank You !
and have a Mustie New Year as well !
I work in the Test Lab at the plant that built that 580, awesome video! Cant wait to see more!
Hey Mustie, the bottom left button on the rhs guage panel (6 switches) operates the front axle engage or disengage. Recommend to only use 4 wheel drive in first or second gear and 2 wheel drive on hard surfaces at speed. The interior dome light switch is the top switch to the left of the steering wheel. Good luck with your project, i'm enjoying the ride along.
I hope he reads your comment. I thought when he powered up the 4 wheel drive switch right before he took the camera off, it lit up. That would indicate a servo is working. Get knowledge. I hope it helps him. 👍
I clicked on the image thinking is was a Desiel Creek Video. It's Mustie, so I'm still happy
Hello Mustie. You really have my attention on this one. I retired from a National Cemetery and this was one of the Backhoes we had. We used the Case 580's, 590's Super E, Super L. You probably know by now but when you are going to lock the boom, you pull the lever toward you and when the boom gets near the cab you push the lever the oppisite way, away from you and the boom will lock. These are easy to maintain and work on. Thanks for the video.
I was waiting to see if they knew. It’s the most counter intuitive thing in the world and scary the first few times you do it.
It is really hard to sit here and watch when you know how to get the boom to come back. We had this feature on a CAT I operated in the oil fields. The old timers had a laugh sitting back watching me struggle my first time trying to get it latched. Lol
@@markallen200 I agree Mark. It’s driving me crazy watching Mustie struggle. I want to be there so bad to show him how to operate it. I ran those for 24 years.
The Cat 416's were the same way to lock the boom.
The front tires are still somewhat useful even when worn out in the center because the lugs on the shoulders will still give some, though less, traction.
Any advice on what type, or brands, of oil are best for old rubber seals and hoses? hopefully not too expensive to replace when it leaks? I have trouble working on my cylinder seals because the cylinders are too heavy to lift with the machine disabled. It can fix another one but has no way to fix itself.
Ooh a 4bt Cummins. It looks clean too, that'll be a great engine!
Hi Musti,
The button on the bucket control is a transmission cut out switch. Used when loading a truck, you can disengage the transmission when dumping and shift your shuttle in reverse. This way you can throttle up while dumping to speed up the process. If that makes any sense. The button on the gear shifter is to disengage transmission just so you can shift on the fly.
Love you videos...been watching for quite awhile. I have been operating Case backhoes since the early 70's. Can't wait to see the improvements on this one!
Just be aware that on some loaders that button is to change from bucket tilt to added implement operation at the front like a bale grip or claw. So it varies a bit, but given what you says it makes sense for this one.
kind of like the clutch on a forklift, disengages the trans so you can lift the boom faster.
On ours its a diff lock.
red button trans cut out ( clutch ) so you can change gear on the move
clue on the gear stick
@@ehsnils you mean a third function valve ???
Way to go man you deserve 💯% of respect for your channel awesome content you Rock! My favorite channel ever and I hope you continue doing amazing work for this amazing channel musty! I love you so very much your very talented and funny keep up the good work thanks buddy!!!😊😊😊❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉
The additional front weight is added standard when fitted with the Extendahoe.
Nice tractor. It awesome that you got the grass and weeds as a bonus with the plow. That is one suckie thing about buying used equipment, is people may have gone in and sliced and diced up your wiring.
Retired operator here and I would suggest fixing and flipping this backhoe. Then get a excavator. Backhoe's are a pain to own and run. Best wishes in the new year Mustie!
Think he said his main plan was to use it for snow removal
An excavator would certainly slow down a snow removal operation. Especially the travel between locations.
Thanks for adding the footage of the CORGI. My daughter and I watch regularly and were pleased to see our favorite dog breed on this episode. No better way to learn the big stuff other than just going for it. Enjoy the 580!
Always good to spend my Sunday drinking coffee and hanging with mustie- thank you sir for the content
Operates manual is priceless. Fantastic source for info some stuff you can’t hardly find elsewhere
Between you and Andrew, it’s just a matter of time before someone buys a decommissioned aircraft carrier “does it still launch planes?”
I think Andrew's got an abandoned TBM coming soon 🙂
@tigershadow1 «will it launch» 😂
Mustie did say he is always looking for exciting material for the the channel
Andrew.." I just finished blasting and on to next job, let's take the new loader on the road" "oohhh, it's too wide! I can fix that myself!".....
@@garymallard4699 Imagine being you. Oof.
Welcome to the large machinery ownership group. With big machines comes big repair bills. Working on my Bobcat T330 and spent $900 on a couple pins, bushings and small linkages.
Hey Mustie1, thanks for the videos! I thought I would share an experience that I had with a Honda Hippo (Japanese Domestic Market) Generator. I tried the usual, carb clean, ultrasonic cleaner, low oil cut off switch bypass.... would run for about 5 seconds and die.... Was driving me mad, I couldn't figure it out... one last UA-cam check before it goes in the heap... I found a video of a generator with a clogged exhaust and thought that this couldn't be my problem... So i went through the carb again..... same trouble.... then figured it was worth the time to remove the muffler just by some chance (very small I thought) and it ran like a champ. for some reason I have never seen this happen in your videos and you are the GURU in my eyes. Just thought you could add the exhaust in one of your trouble shooting vids, Im sure the masses would find it useful. Thanks again for your time and dedication to all of us. Scott in Japan.
Check for a banana in the tailpipe.
When I was a kid I spent my summers in Italy, up in the hills of Tuscany. One of the house staff was a funny Swiss chap who drove an old Renault R4. Sometimes he wouldn't drive it all the way up the farm track to the house but park just off the track a few hundred metres below. One evening he walked off to the car to go home, only to return ten or 15 minutes later, asking for help because the car was acting up. A bunch of people walked to the car and there it sat, almost perpendicular to the track where he'd backed out of his parking spot. He tried to start the engine but it made the weirdest noises and died immediately. Took us a few minutes to realise what was going on but someone noticed that he'd backed too far and buried the tail pipe in the soft dirt bank on the other side of the road, completely clogging the exhaust 😀
Pushing the car forward just a few cms and clearing the tail pipe fixed everything.
Watching electrical diagnostics is always cool. It also always seems like when there are a bunch of random electrical problems on a machine it can usually be one small issue. Like a shorted wire, a wire hooked up wrong, or a bad ground.
Best time of the of the week 7am on a Sunday, always know there is going to be something great on Mustie's channel.
Same here. Getting ready to go get the week's groceries watching a Mustie1 video. Every Sunday morning for me for as long as I can remember now. (Well, past couple of years anyway 😉)
And Wednesday too lately!!
Misti 1 that machine is priceless there is nothing wrong with it it just needs a good operator! And some lovin! That’s a 20,000 fall or machine all day long 👍
Awesome buy. I love watching videos of work on larger machines( camarata, diesel creek etc). I look forward to a few more episodes on this machine, can’t wait!
I love how new Hampshire you are
Now you just need a truck and trailer to haul it! Can’t wait for those videos ;)
For the travel lock to work, bring up the rpm then pull your control all the way back and then push it forward as soon as the cylinder reaches the end of its travel and it will reverse and lock.
I repaired a lot of Case 580s & 590s over the years for plumbing contractors in NYC. Easy machines to operate and repair. Do yourself a favor and get the manual which should include a parts section for that machine if you're keeping it.
Good morning , Wishing everybody a Merry Christmas / Happy Holidays as to what ever it is that you celebrate. Just everybody please be Happy and be Safe !
Another nice shop class teacher .Great way to spend part of an afternoon
The button on the bucket control is a momentary switch for neutral so you can Rev the engine while lifting load the one on the gear selection is like a clutch to disengage so you can shift while in motion
@@jeffrygagnon5506 lmao 🤣 😂 only child here hahaha but hey nice last name guy
Great purchase sir! That thing will move all kinds of snow!!
This is all the stuff I wish my dad had been into. Thanks for another year of great videos, merry Christmas!
You said 'not the norm for the channel'. Other than VW there is no "norm'" for you, other than smaller projects.
You build bicycles, motorcycles, mowers, chainsaws, and the list goes on.
Congrats on having a really large money pit to add to your stable of vehicles.
Thanks for sharing.
That thing is perfect. As a kid I believe every kid had the metal toy of this backhoe. It would be worth a fortune where I’m at. Watch as soon as you fix the outrigger cylinders the hydraulics will start to break down the line till you’ve changed every seal and changed every hose. That’s the curse of hydraulic systems in my experience.
Yup. Bought a not leaking 1997 580 last year. Once I started working her, I have now replaced every seal except steering so far
Same with my old D.
Great project.
Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Leave your bucket//digger extended to the ground when releasing travel locking pin. That will minimize lurching of main boom. I have an older 580
Once the outriggers are working again that would also help.
Would you sell your backhoe?
outriggers AND grounding the front bucket would help, he was floating on just the tires when trying to lock it up!
Mustie one thing holds true the toys just keep getting bigger. Looks like a good fine. Have fun be safe. from our house to yours Merry Christmas
Had one of these.
Excellent machines many used parts around.
Cummins/ Case motors simple to service.
Hoses and cylinder packings typical issues.
Buy some big wrenches and torches..
You will need them.
Love it. Big boy toy. Thanks Mustie1 for another awesome video as usual! Best channel on UA-cam! Have a great Christmas my friend!
The 3rd wire on the switches is the ground for the bulb in the switch (black w/yel IIRC.).
Yes, those Scotchlock IDC connectors helped pay for my EE degree. Worked at a shop we repaired them almost daily. They were bad back in the '70s when they came out now we have the cheap Chinese copies.
The rear wiper is right next to the front one. that is the 3-pos rotary switch on the side controls that did nothing. The one next it did the front
Buddy, I know exactly what you mean about those darn connectors. I was working in a foreign car shop in the late 70s and if a car had an electrical problem nine times out of ten it was one of those. Volvo was particularly bad about it. And a Merry Christmas to all Mustie fans from North Carolina farm country!
I think the Chinese copies are called ScotchRocks to avoid trademark issues.
My very first encounter with those @&%!!* connectors was on my first car in '73 when I installed Marshal driving lamps on it.
Instant drama. Never, ever used them. They should be made illegal.
I’m amazed they are still being made and used in the automotive world. They always fail.
I hate those scotch locks!
Make sure you put a compatible oil in the hydraulic system and the transmission. I was a mechanic for Case IH in the 90s. There was a hydraulic oil that Case said not to use in their equipment. It was a generic oil available at farm stores and it was pretty popular at the time but I can t remember the name. Anyway we had a customer that bought a new 300 hp 4wd tractor. They had it about a month and pinched a hyd hose in half on a Sunday. They couldn't t get Case hydraulic oil so they put the don t use type in instead. A weekblater the new tractor was in our shop. The Trans hydraulic and brakes all used a common oil . The oil they put in it caused the glue holding the disc material to the steel plates on all the clutches and brakes to dissolve. The entire tractor had to be disassembled except for the engine and all that disc material had to be cleaned out of every passage pump bearing sump and any place else you can think of. All the disc's had to be replaced and then reassembled. There was no warranty because they put the wrong oil in it. The cost to them was around 15000 dollars. It was a very expensive ordeal.
I remember when that model was new, it was the cat's pajamas. They had all the bells and whistles, 4x4, stereo, ac, comfy cabin, etc. That one looks barely used. Thanks for the help Brian. What a great find. Cheers!
Very nice engine. We have a early model case skid steer with the same engine. Super reliable.
Instead of clipping a hot lead to the probe of your 12v test light, disconnect the ground from the testlight and put the 12v on the ground side of the test light, this will effectively put the light bulb in the circuit and "current limit" what you are doing. The way you are doing it is basically bypassing the fuse and amps can jump to infinity. But, if instead, you are running the hot through the test light, that bulb will always provide enough resistance that you will not cause your connectors to glow like you did in this video.
The way you are doing it (putting a hot on the probe side) allows the current to jump to infinity. The way I am saying will always current-limit you to that of the lightbulb. A dead short cannot happen through a light bulb. At worst, the bulb will blow.
I really liked the red alligator clip in parallel to provide 12 volts all he had to do was connect the alligator clip of the test light to bat pos and provide current limited voltage to the circuit under test. Scary electrical troubleshooting.
I know nothing about what you are doing in these videos, but I love your scientific mind and how you pursue this as a mystery. Well done!
That beast was top of the line in its day, and still even today with all the features. Extendahoe, 4x4, those are expensive options. Such an awesome machine.
Never ran one. Love the video. Troubleshooting is X-cellent.. Can do attitude. Rich USAF 81-85
A lot of work ahead on this one mate. I Love it, just like Marty T.
First thanks for hanging at Micks live yesterday cool 👍 You're going to make money now with that bad-boy ! Timing couldn't be better we got about a half a foot last night !
Cummins 4BT. It really is a 12 valve 5.9 Cummins minus 2 cylinders. Good engines that run better if you run them a bit hard.This engine series was created for Case before it ever hit the street in a Dodge. My grandfather worked building these engines in Columbus for years. The 4BT is a bit pricey to repair but yours sounds healthy. Nice rig
As always another great video and always look forward to Sunday for your vid it completes my weekend. till next time godbless andstaysafe
Every Case 580 I have operated from a D to a Super K you have to pull the boom lever towards you with a little gusto. Not crazy but just enough momentum. When you are close push the lever away from you and that keeps boom from slamming the tractor hard and let’s the boom lock. It’s an art of coordination but you’ll get it!
Hi Mustie....enjoyed the tractor video... You don't see many videos working on tractors!... Also like the road trips!...Take care!
Boom cylinder stow position works (over Center) pull cylinder into back position and as soon as it’s bottomed out throw lever forward quickly to extend the boom! It will scare you as you think it’s going to come into the cab!! Some speed helps as momentum in what carry’s it over center!!
Was going to say the same thing, I've driven loads of cases over the years and it's an oddment to them on stowing the arm.
My dad has a 580E that he’s had for 30+ years and it’s always been a good machine. He says he doesn’t know how anyone lives without one. I’m sure you’ll love having it around the shop.
Abom79 has done a few videos on spray welding cylinders and refurbing the seals/rings. Might be worth looking into a local shop that does spray welding or give Adam a shout and see if he knows people in your area.
It's exciting watching you trace the electrical faults. Super video. I cant wait for the next installment/s. Good work, as always.
Everyone's going bigger. I just watched a Marty T vid where he went from a mini tractor to a big bulldozer inside a week and now Mustie's on a similar track with the Backhoe. Interesting project - lot of electrical and hydraulics challenges. Not one that will be fixed overnight but I'm looking forward to seeing what you can make of it.
And don't forget Andrew Camarata's big wheel loader
@@Robvdh87 Exactly....Camarata started with a battery powered weed whacker and look at his collection now.
such dedication to wiring.... very admirable!
For equipment that has had mice a battery disconnect switch is a good idea especially if it's kept inside.
My man mustie now has a backhoe, a forklift, a welding trailer, a terramite, a bucket truck. I need a recap of where he’s keeping his stuff lol his wife is a saint lol
I’m so jealous!!!
👍👌👏 This seems to be a really good machine, looks really well built too. Congrats for purchasing it.
I wish you and your family a wonderful Christmas time and a happy new year.
Best regards, luck and health.
Me and my Grandfather have a 580 Super L here in Florida, Real workhorse of a machine. Pretty cool stuff!!!
Just wondering when your going to finish the econoline
It was good that Brian was there to help you.
Given how that wiring looked, I'd be pretty tempting to change out all of those bulbs for much brighter LEDs and drop the fuse ratings down by 50% even if you get it straightened out. _Something_ melted it down the first time, but there's no need to run that much power with better technology available. 100W of LED (10A) will burn your eyes out of your skull.
No need to drop the fuse ratings even if one opted for LEDs. The rating of the fuse does not determine how many amps flow through a circuit, only at what amp draw the fuse will open/fail. And the size of fuse in any application is based on the ampacity of the circuit conductors so that if amp draw is too great, the fuse will fail and protect the wiring.
@@larrywalker7759 However, would you want to drop the fuse since if the leds fail it will be at less amperage? I don't know. I am just guessing.
@Larry Walker Except the very clear evidence that the fuses didn't protect the wiring. The wiring is all fried.
The entire point I'm making here is that we don't know what caused the original failure. It could be poor design, poor maintenance, or just a ghost in the machine. You could spend years chasing down the true root cause, while it melts down over and over, even after you repair all of the obvious failures. Or, you could just cut the load on the circuits in half, as well as the fuse ratings so the fuses actually do protect the wiring, and probably not worry about it again. Upgrading to LED is an upgrade regardless.
@@BigBaddaBoom Everything being equal, it wouldn't hurt. I don't think 12v direct replacement LEDs are particularly prone to fail in a ways in which they burst into flames or anything, but..? There's no particular reason to have a fuse in the circuit that is twice the value that it requires, so, there wouldn't be any harm in it even ignoring my original point.
@@TheBrokenLife Fuses didn't protect the wiring because... they're not in circuit. He shows the back of them at 1:16:40 - there's no wire coming out of either of the fuses, someone bodged it, completely bypassing the fuse box.
@@TheBrokenLife From the evidence of mice, I can almost guarantee the cause of the fuses going.😒😂
The one person i watch every time he put up a video.happy Christmas everyone
merry Christmas to you and your family! and congratulations on the new toy!
Mustie1 going all Diesel Creek on us! Outstanding!
Nice find! Not your typical Briggs & Stratton of VW, but you’re fearless so let’s get it done. TLBs are so versatile and useful. Great to have around especially if they can get enough work to support themselves. I’m envious! Merry Christmas!
Thanks Mustie1,
I learned to operate a backhoe like this 580k I think , it was a "construction king"
Back in the early 80s
Central California Watching
Congratulations on buying your latest money-pit! I bought my 3CX a few years back and I am still working on it. Have a great Christmas Darren!
Yes sir.... they can get expensive and labor intensive !
This made me very happy when I saw it in my youtube notifications this morning. I love heavy equipment videos.
Great video D. looks like you will have content well in to 2022.
You know, there are enough people with 580 out there, I'm sure one of them might be willing to put a copy of the 580 service manual under the tree for you.
Thank you for what you do, you have taught me alot!
My wife on the other hand ..... isnt so keen on your channel.
I keep getting the WHAT about my kitchen remodel? question.
Merry Christmas to you and all in the Mustie1 nation.
Mustie 1 has a Big toy. This will keep you busy , best of luck. Keep well and enjoy the work with the Case
As picked up, that machine would be considered in perfect condition by Matt at Diesel Creek. :-)
It's Boom, dipper, bucket, extendahoe! In that order lol! Happy Holidays to you and your family!
I believe the red button is a D-Clutch. Which does exactly what you said, disengage the clutch. So you can rev the engine while operating the hydraulics.
I watch your videos but I subscribed when I saw this one . I have that exact tractor and I will have to tell you you will be amazed at the abilities of that machine . Looking forward to the restoration process.
LED bulbs would eliminate the high current draw from the lights and give you better working light. Looking forward to more on this project! Thanks Mustie1 and Merry Christmas to you and Mrs. Mustie1!
Merry Christmas to you too! Thank you for the videos!!!!!
Merry Christmas Mustie 1, and a Happy New Year. I bet that pipe was used to hold the passenger door open....lol
Leveling up with a big yellow Swiss Army knife. Luv it.
Perfect for the season. In "A Christmas Story" When Ralph's Old Man plugs anything into the single socket there sparks and a whiff of ozone.
"NOBODY MOVE!"
When you put the fan on full I was fully expecting a mouse to come flying at you! :-)
Looks about like my 580 SL (mine is a series 2) except yours has much better paint and I dont have the thumb on the hoe. That extend a hoe is a nice feature. Only 5 minutes in and cant wait to see how many attempts it takes to relock the hoe in to place. Took me a little while to get the hang of it.
Edit: Im sure you may have figured this out, but to get the hoe locked. Bring it all the way back and just before it stops push the stick forward. This relieves enough pressure to allow it to come back the few extra inches to allow the lock the catch. I know it seems counter intuitive but that's how it's done. Bad design by Case in my opinion.
It does need a little bit of momentum to get it up but not too crazy and make sure the boom is fully curled in as well.
4 wheel drive is a toggle switch on the panel to the right. Along with front and rear lights.
There might be a switch for "comfort ride". It automatically adjusts the loader bucket while driving to minimize jarring. Just be sure to have it off while using the loader.
Bottom left toggle near the lights is the 4 wheel drive. Pretty sure that weight is stock. Ours has it too. Might be part of the hoe option.
You’re correct on the Cummins. It’s a Cummins 4BT. Good luck with the wiring issues.
What could Mustie1 offer as a early Christmas gift to his viewers? Everybody's favourite "toy" a backhoe or JCB as they tend to be known in the UK. Fantastic, nothing fazes him, so this will be video gold.. thanks for posting, looking forward to seeing you sorting it out. Merry Christmas to you and all your viewers. Happy New Year
I have noticed an increasing JCB presence here in the states. My father bought one about 10 years ago and I had never heard of one before that. Now I see them rather frequently.
@@cougarhunter33 Was your father Alistair Crowley by any chance? Asking for a friend.
I'd never heard of a backhoe until a few years ago. But any kind of digger/work vehicle is a JCB in Scotland
Nice machine, well done.
That diesel sounds strong.
At least there is no carb to clean or spark to check for.
Merry Christmas to Mustie1 and the mustie nation(all us viewers) !! Wow, Darren u sure did pick an ambitious end of 2021 project(backhoe) to tackle !!🎄, 🎉 and a happy HEALTHY new year !!
You are living my dream man, I just can't justify owning one! Thumbs up!
Just incase you don't release another video, before the big day.. '' Merry Christmas Mustie1 '' & Thank you for all the video's that really have kept me going though this tuff year :)
Congrats on the new toy Mustie!
Merry Christmas mustie 1 hope you have a great time stay safe and keep up the great work. Great to see you on Mick's mowers last night. 👌
If you splice that two wire before, you don't have fused circuit. Best thing to do is to set new wire for plus on bought fuse on one leg and on another one to put separate existing wire. Your work is great, enjoy to see.
2:40 "It starts nice." There goes my favorite part of the video. lol
Great rig, I can see the road too the cottage under future improvements. Cheers !