I have purchased three Pi-400s to give to my grandchildren as gifts, and they love them as everyday desktop computers and for games. Now I want one for myself.
I have a PI 400 and I love it. I have a stack of external drives and SD cards full of various operating systems and I can turn it into whatever I want it to be. If I want a Linux desktop, I grab the HDD, if I want it to be an Amiga grab the SD card. I wish they made an 8GB model, but it's still great to use!
I bought two of them for my two kids back in 2020 as they came out. They used it for their homeschooling during the evil c pandemic. They used iserv and office 365 programs and had never any problems with it. The price for the kit was 110€ each in 2020 and is still available for 105 - 110€ here in Germany.
You do realize that the pandemic is still ongoing right what is with you people you seem to think the pandemic is over and it's not there still dowsing the people dying everyday from covid and it's actually worse now than it was back in 2019 2020 and 2021
The only down side with the Pi 400 is that its less "hackable" and isn't something you can easily stick on an electronics workbench next to a breadboard and an Arduino to mess around with. But as someone who came from the ZX Spectrum and Commodore Amiga many years ago, I appreciate the "home computer" design ethic - I think it was Dan Wood on his Amiga-focused channel that did a video showing how a Raspberry Pi is essentially the best Amiga every built. My Pi 400 mostly sits there as an emulated Amiga with Pimiga and it's a great little machine for that reason alone. With that said, everyone's far too fixated on 8 GB RAM anyway, probably because they've come from Windows backgrounds where every time a new Windows version comes out, the RAM demand essentially doubles because of the built in bloat. The last time I touched Windows to build PCs with it was Windows 7 that always had a minimum RAM requirement of 4 GB, for example, and it used to make me laugh that people would sell PCs or netbooks with 1 or 2 GB RAM installed and Windows 7 and me knowing that PC would slow to a crawl within weeks with registry bloat. I've been using Linux since 1996 (UNIX for a bit longer) and Gentoo Linux for my main OS since 2003. I still have perfectly functional dual core laptops running at 2 GHz with 4 GB RAM that are perfectly fine daily drivers - they are not going to run AAA games or do any serious video editing any time soon (just like a Raspberrry Pi) but, with Linux, are perfectly good daily driver machines for general office work, a bit of programming and browsing. Yes, some of them with Intel video chips will struggle with 1080p video on UA-cam but as they usually only have 720p capable native screen resolutions anyway, that's not really an issue. I've got both a 4GB and 8GB Pi 4 and I don't see any appreciable difference between the two when using them side-by-side. To be honest, with the difference in price between the 4GB and 8GB version (in "normal" times anyway), for the same money I'd be more inclined to buy the 4 GB version with a 128 GB SATA SSD and a USB to SATA cable than an 8 GB Pi 4 because the SSD instead of MicroSD has a much bigger impact on speed than the additional 4 GB RAM. People need to lose the "Windows RAM fixation". Linux is designed to be customisable to your requirements, it's why I chose Gentoo Linux as the ultimate "tweaker OS". I own an IBM Thinkpad R31 from about 2003 with a 1 GHz single core Pentium III CPU and 512 MB RAM that I make a point of using as my daily driver on occasions just to remind myself how obsessive the world has become about "more RAM and CPU power" without understanding why it's needed. Some of my day job is shell scripting in Linux, and I can happily sit there on that old R31 for a day, programming and testing scripts in Vim with an email client open on another screen and playing music from my home music server without thinking about it. To be perfectly honest, it's a great "distraction free" machine to use.
I agree with Terry Daktyllus. Since reasonably priced Pi 4's are in short supply, I purchased several 400's to do some parallel processing experiments which are working very well, but they're not very compact. I do wonder how well Pimiga performs emulated vs running on native hardware?
@@watchm4ker Acorn and Amiga were two completely different computers and OSs'. Which the pi can run both operating systems quite well. So, I'm afraid you're the confused one here.
@@MaffeyZilog @Maffey Zilog6502 Yes. They were. The Acorn Archimedes was the first computer to use a CPU designed by Acorn's IC design team, later called Acorn Research Machines. Wasn't too successful at first, but I think you'd agree it certainly had potential.
I got a PI400 for my 8 year old son Christmas 2020. It is just perfect for him. We connected it to an older 32 in flat screen put Twister OS (thank you Lee) on it filled it up with games and it's just great. 100 dollars for a way better PC than any computer I had until just a few years ago.
I, love! My pi400! I use it every day, and it's very durable as well, it has survived water falling into it, error on my part due to the setting of a waterbottle. Either way, i love mine, i've managed to just plug it into my macbook cord, turn on my headphones, and boom. Thanks to Orca and the mate desktop and bluetoothmon, i was able to make my own little computer anywhere, with no display. And, it can even run on a battery. I love the thing, more people should get it.
Love the Idea of the 400. Just cant think of an excuse to pull the trigger to get one. My Pi 4 B 8gig has been serving just nicely, its latest upgrade was 1 Tb SSD a full rebuild of the server so it boots of USB SSD so it has a music server, Web Server and SMB server. there are the plethora of little pi zero and Pi Zero 2 projects around the house programming, data collection, playback A/V, connected to other GPIO hardware including the HQ camera module. There are iterations of various servers as well the one used by all in the house that nobody knows about is the Pi-Hole setup. My last phone I bought extremely powerful, that stooped me needing to take the laptop with me and with SSH Im never to faraway from little to big Linux hardware. though a 400 and a portable monitor is always tempting, though my phone and the same monitor keyboard and mouse can do the same... in the past I did take a pi 4 out in field it was a great little box of Swiss army knife of connectivity tools...
With respect, at about 1:45, when talking about KDE's vast functionality, you refer to it as an Operating System, rather than a Desktop Environment. I mention this because when I began learning about Linux I would confuse Distros and DE's. So, for any newbies...
I have 2 Pi 400s, I love the idea and sizing. One of them I turned into an "emergency computer" in case I need or want a computer (which actually gets used as such! Found myself waiting somewhere yesterday and made use of a display for that very purpose, got actual tasks done too) It's light and small enough to carry without straining my back/bulging my bag, and the inbuilt keyboard means I don't have to carry a separate one nor depend on the place I'm going to having one available. The second one I have, I got it because even then there weren't any 4B's available, but its keyboard is pretty bad compared to the first one 😭 I would have rather had the 4B because I needed one for a project, but I can't bring myself to tearing the other 400 apart, even if its keyboard is annoying and doesn't work nicely 😔
I'm delighted I followed your suggestion of a few weeks ago and bought a pi400! I'd watched your video recommending that people consider that model, rather than wait an indefinite period for a pi4. I've had an pi4 8G model on order with CPC since early Jan when the estimated delivery was 3 weeks from order, but I was getting emails every week moving the date back another week so it was receding ever into the future. I then got an email with a delivery estimate of November! I ordered a 400 from CPC (for £53.04 ex. VAT) the same day, but also started checking the web site you recommended for stock availability (rpilocator). The day after the 400 turned up, rpilocator reported that OKdo had pi4 4G models in stock @ £44.84 (ex. VAT) so because I already had a keyboard, mouse, power supply and case from my earlier CPC order (which had been fulfilled except for the pi4), I went ahead and ordered one! So, I went from none with an estimated wait until November to owning two a few days after seeing your video! Anyway, they are basically interchangeable - at least functionally - and I'm having a lot of fun with them! I'm working my way through your back catalogue of Pi News and getting lots of ideas and useful tips. At the moment I'm focussing on finding the limits of what a pi can do as a practical desktop machine, which is more than most people probably realise! My current project is integrating the pi workspace with my MacBook workspace so whatever is immediately to hand on one is immediately to hand on the other - that way I don't have to switch machines to access notes, calendars, passwords, etc. My main problem is remembering the new stuff I'm learning fast enough so I don't have to back-track to find it again (old brain syndrome!) My advice to others, therefore, is to follow your advice 🙂
I always saw the 400 as the "ready to go desktop" solution, where the regular RPI 4 could be used in all kinds of projects - with or without a keyboard (for example, OctoPi for the 3d printer. you have no need for a keyboard on that). So, at twice the price of a RPI 4, the 400 doesn't make sense to buy 20 of - therefore it's in less demand. but I wouldn't call it a failure. I actually want to pick one up as a desktop so I can move my Pi4 to a project.
Personally, comparing like for like (4GB Pi 4 vs the 400 unit), the 400 is a pretty good deal for desktop computing use imo. The cost difference is/was about £10 or so with some suppliers, and that's about what you'd spend on a case/cooling alone for the 4b (which you almost certainly need for any real use whatsoever!) However, for other uses where you don't need (or possibly even want) a keyboard, it's harder to use the 400 unless you tear it open and account for the differently shaped PCB, amongst other things
I bought a pi 400 and it is great. I have even produced songs on it. Very impressed. Sound works great through hdmi and it's forced me to learn. Anything that does that has to be good...
I mean it's not even close to twice the price when you break it down. The 4gb pi 4 model is $55 for just the SBC and the RPI 400 is $70 for just the pi 400. With a stock clock of 1.8 out of the box, it's really more powerful thanks to the redesign of the heat sink allowing lowering operating Temps. I've resulted to 3d printing custom cases for the 400 pcb, at least until the stock of the 4 is settled. Side by side my pi 400 beats my pi 4 4gb everytime. Just wish it had the pi camera connection.
@@VRtheFuture: Indeed, maybe it's different where OP lives but as above the difference between equivalent models is minimal, what you save on getting the Pi 4 can easily be overshadowed by having to buy a case and cooling, assuming desktop use. Having said that though, seems like they compared the 400 kit to the standalone 4B - taking the 4B kit against the 400 kit still gives the 400 being cheaper (here in GB, PiHut lists a difference of £22 less for the 400, with the 400 kit only lacking one HDMI cable AFAICT!)
Hello! I get your point. However, the 400 at 100€ is the full kit. The 400 alone is at around 65-80€, for a 4Gb version, whereas the pi4 4GB is 50+€, often 60. So in these times of low availability, the 400 is not much more expensive. As for projects, it require a bit more work, but you can remove the board from the case and use it for projects. the board is wider but not that big; as pi4 as bloody impossible to buy anywhere, that's the way i'll be going now!
I want to do the Mechanical Keyboard mod to the Pi400 and mount a SATA M.2 in the bottom to boot and run from, with some battery cells/packs for UPS function.
Just ordered one of these! Wanted to get a Pi4 for projects, but I couldn’t find any anywhere that were reasonably priced. Pi400 it is. Looking forward to new projects and new ventures as this is my first time venturing into Pi and self hosted/created things (I’m in IT though so I understand some of it lol)
I like my pi 400 a lot. I had a pi 3b+ previously. My 400 overclocks perfectly at 2350. My only complaint is how scattered the info necessary to do things I want to do to get a nice properly working desktop running the applications I prefer has become. I feel very lucky to have found in passing the instructions for overclocking to 2350. I've only seen them in one place, and can't even remember where that place was- I copied and printed out the config.txt settings. That is just one example. It needs a good wiki or something.
In the Berlin shop "Berrybase" RPI 400 KIT costs €98.50 including shipping. Undoubtedly a wonderful PC in addition to the USB sound card and USB-SATA adapter for SSD use.
The RPi-400 is very versatile and I like the fact that it can run RISC OS 5.28 which I still actively use. I just bought one for my daughter for homeschooling as a Christmas present.
I have a number of // a variety Pi 'in service', including a Pi400. I love all of them, even the oldest ones. They all 'have a job to do'. The 'regular Pi' is a great educational tool, an experimental SBC, a small server, an IOT / home automation champion, and much more... I think the Pi400 has a job to play too. It's 'simple', familiar, surprisingly versatile and imho a lot of 'bang for ur $$$'. I like it a lot.
I bought a PI400, it works, I'm happy! Sometimes I think that I would have been better off buying a Pi 4/4GB instead, because I normally use my Pi as a Home Server and as a NAS, but the keyboard is a Nifty Add-on! Won't complain! Even from another perspective, If I get a barebones Pi with a good case and cooling solution, it would almost cost me the same, at-least here in India. Pi400 looks neat, No hassle, No ugly cases and fans hanging, and foremost -> reliable!
When the pi400 came out I thought I ordered one. Must have clicked the wrong button and got the pi4 kit instead. lucky me. I ordered the pi400 and got it in December and got it too. Got a pi3 also before the prices went through the roof. I was given the original pi and a 2 pi2s. Got a ZeroW and Zero2W and 2 Picos too. I enjoy playing with them. Thanks again for your informative videos.
Hi Lee. I concur with your findings. The pi400 is great! Got mine from OKdo last week for £65.27, free shipping. Followed your video on how to set up KDE on Raspberry pi OS 64 bit, and it works brilliantly. The only issue I have is with the rear ports are a bit close together. I lose one when using my adwits USB3/WD m2 240gb drive. But I’m sure to work it out. Great stuff
I had simply assumed that the Pi 400 was still available, during the current chip shortage, because the Raspberry Pi Foundation had committed a lot of their limited chip resources to it because I would imagine it was the best model for children and schools to use.
The only thing they did wrong with the pi 400 is not including an audio jack, meaning you would need an extra USB adapter or HDMI audio splitter for one if you don't have speakers on your monitor! And that kinda defeats the purpose of the "everything you need in one package" focus of the product. So although I don't personally have one, that's the only issue I see with it. I hope that they continue that series in the future with a pi 500 and on, cause it really is a great idea and a great product just as it is right now. And btw when trying to snap windows in kde, focus on where the mouse cursor itself is hitting the edges of the screen, not the whole window you're dragging. Since the mouse is dragging from the title bar, if you drag the window to the middle right for example, the mouse will be closer to the top right corner and is more likely to snap the window to the top corner, not the whole side of the screen which explains why it seemed a little finicky in the video.
I was also put off a bit by the missing audio jack. I do like that Canakit sells a breadboard breakout kit, which means prototyping is reasonably available on the Pi400.
Pi 400 is silent, overclocks higher than pi4 keyboard at the ready, usb boot works out the box. So for me, the fastest pi I've ever owned. Just different form factor for what people do, I'd say it's not for people's normal projects but any networking stuff you want to setup or even gpio projects it's much easier working from the 400, nice and contained without the spaghetti of wires to do it locally or any fan noise.
I got one when you said they were still available. I've got pi's but wanted another to play with, but not way over priced. I think that they're great, but they are not SBC's which may be the reason for not selling like pancakes. I think Raspberry pi 400 is a huge -well small - improvement on much older almost forgotten form factor. my first computer a vic 20,( well 2nd, had a Tandy TRS-80 before that). This form factor is ingenious for someone that just wants a computer for email web acess without a bunch of fiddly things. plug it into tv and go. Its not for a hobbyist. Its a new tool.
I think it fills a niche for some types of desktop use. However much of the use of Raspberry Pi is by makers. Also as a desktop user myself I prefer to use a standard keyboard. So the market must be a good deal smaller than for the standard Raspberry Pi. But if you want the Pi packaged into a keyboard it must be very attractive. The need for a separate mouse must make it difficult to use on your lap in front of your TV
I have a pi400 running Chris Edwards PiMiga amiga emulation compilation and it runs great. I think the 400 is less successful because of the use case, people love to use them headless or in a custom case and the options there are extremely limited especially if its used as a retro console or a media player.
I have all the Pi 4B series along with the Pi 400. I like the Pi 4B 8 GB in the Vilros keyboard/touchpad hub the best. The 400 is a little better for travel though especially since I have a bag for it.
I just bought a Pi 400 just so I could gut it for a project since you can't get a readily available 4gb version of the regular Pi 4 nor the CM4 in 4gb or 8gb. I got tired of constantly sitting on rpilocator, etc and am making lemonade when given lemons.
I run Supreme with roms on an external usb and a Logitech wireless controller for my 400. Sits at my kitchen table. Love it. I am going to check out that os you started off with. Looks great.
I use my pi400 with libreELEC as a portable video streaming/media player/emulation device that I can bring to anywhere with a tv and have everything ready to go. I suppose the hacked firesticks can do that too but I love the keyboard and performance is really good. Nothing like going into a hotel room with wifi and basically plugging in the pi400 and having all my accounts set up and ready to go to watch Netflix/Prime Video or Rumble,/UA-cam etc. It also acts as a UPNP server so I can play videos stored on it on our 4k tv without plugging it in. The pi400 is fantastic for it's purpose.
I recently bought one very recently and I'm extremely happy with it. I had a file server consuming 50Watts or more before and now the Pi400 is doing all of that and the other things, while not needing fans / heat sinks like the P4B's. And it gives me some real motivation to do Linux after 30 years in the IT business and being frustrated with Linux most of the time.
I think its simple... The PI400 is great. But not for special DIY projects that just need the little PCB. Like Camera Setups, Network things, Controlling etc... I use it for Amiga Emulation with Pimiga or CaffineOS. And it does a great job. I dont even know why people buy an AMIGA Mini when they even get a working keyboard PC with the PI400 for less.
Pi400 full kit available in Australia for $160 au (£94 roughly) From core-electronics. Running bullseye x64 on mine full overclock with plasma kde de, I hardly use my desktop PC at all unless playing demanding games or doing graphic work. My power bill has dropped dramatically since the switch, so versatile too, I just swap out disks to switch from libreelec, to debian bullseye to retropie or batocera!
I wish the forthcoming Pi's had an empty M.2 slot (so you can choose the 'HDD' size to your liking and budget) An empty RAM slot so you can choose how much RAM you need/want. That would be fantastic and initial cost would naturally be very low. I have 2 Pi 400's and I'm happy with them other than the somewhat 'clustrophobic' 4Gb RAM.
The Pi 400 is brilliant, but a touch underpowered for what it tries to be. It seems to me that it wants to be a low budget, low power desktop replacement. It's still a tad too slow to really be acceptable for most people in that role. And its form factor isn't quite compatible with the people who get Pis for hardware tinkering. When there will eventually be a Pi 5, I think that will have right specs for what the 400 was aiming to be. I don't want a Pi 400 for the above reasons, but I am excited for a potential Pi 500.
I think it often depends what you are used to using. Although I have an iPad Pro and M1 Mac I still find the Pi is fast enough for many things I want it to do.
I've found that switching to a SATA SSD makes a noticble performance improvement. I've done this on my server and the pi I used on the desktop, and they work quite well.
Purchased one for my nephew as a b-day gift. Have to wait a month (when his b-day is actually) to give it to him. Of course he's nearly 30. lol Still, for $99 (S&H got me, since I had to pay nearly $120 total) but with mouse and book, felt it worth the total cost. As a side, at this price, it would make for a great kiosk for schools to browse the internet on. Lots of other possibilities, too. Just regret not buying one for myself. lol :)
The Pi 400 is a brilliant idea. But as I'm limited on space, I don't have the space to dedicate to an extra desk, keyboard and monitor. So I use a 3B on the back of my main PC's monitor as a Retropie gaming system, another mounted in a Pi-Top (Mk 2), and another Pi-Top (Mk 1) with a Pi 4. I also have a Pi Zero W (currently setting up as a Pi-Hole). I want the latest version of the Pi 4 (with the same 1.8 Ghz CPU as the 400), to upgrade my monitor mounted Retropie system, and Pi-Top (Mk 1). But can't get them. This video has given me ideas about at least replacing the monitor mounted Retropie Pi 3 with a Pi 400 - maybe out of its case, mounted to the monitor, or make a bracket and mount it under the desk and use a KVM and Berryboot to make it in to both a Retropie system, and power effiecent desktop replacement for web browsing and UA-cam. I'd love to figure out if I can get one of these to mount (minus keyboard and heatsink) in a Pi-Top, but can't find the dimensions of the bare motherboard. Looks like I'm talking myself in to buying a Pi 400. :)
My Pi400 is the only Pi i use lately, a update to that would be nice, and if The Pi Foundation was to make a official ras-pi Bluetooth mouse that would be awesome
About 2 weeks ago (Mar of 2022) I purchased the Pi400 kit (book, power cord, mouse, micro HDMI cable) from Canakit for $100USD. The Pi400 by itself still goes for $70USD IF you can find one. I didn't mind shelling out for the kit since it hasn't been price gouged yet. I like it, but I'm on the hunt for a monitor. I'd like something small but not too small to keep with the Pi400 so I can move it around.
Update, I found a monitor. RCA DETG138R. It's a 13", weighs next to nothing, and the case is CLEAR! These are referred to as "prison TVs", hence the need for the clear case, and as such are priced much lower than other 13" monitors.
I put XFCE on my rasberry pi 400. The 64bit release has given it a very noticeable boost in performance. I have the OS installed on an external SSD and have mine overclocked as well. I've been trying to learn a new programming language with it.
I would have bought a 400 by now but the keyboard put me off since it looked exactly like the official raspberry pi keyboard which wasn't a good keyboard, and the one I had regularly wouldn't register some keypresses. I read some comments about similar problems with the pi400 at least at release.
@@leepspvideo I find that on my 400, I have to be very definite with keyp[dresses and it works well. If I don't pay attention, like when I'm typing fast, it sometimes doesn't register keypresses. I just type carefully and it isn't a problem, but I would love a better keyboard.
I assume it's not because the 400 is a fail, but because it's less versatile. The A and B form factor of the SBCs are better for projects, but the 400 works.
The Pi400 has a ton of competitors - as it's kinda entered the 'laptop' market but without a screen. So that might account for it still being in stock. Not only that, but he Pi400 is also competing int he same as regular Pi's. So it doesn't have its one 'natural/home' retail strata. One thing people don't seem to have considered is that maybe the Pi400 was massively overproduced?
I ended up buying from a local reseller who ripped off a huge amount for the pi400(not the kit). With the device added the official power adapter, HDMI and a 256gb Samsung sd mini card.. all for GBP 122
I think the 400 is awesome for what it is and it's in stock because bots, scalpers and just the fact not as many people have room for a traditional desktop set up and if they do they'll probably want or more than likely have a much more powerful setup, but to be fair I'm pretty sure raspberry pi foundation kills the SBC game and has made any loss back on the 400's with all the pi 4 scalpers
Another good 👍 video... The raspberrypi 400 I purchased as an emergency computer.. With regards to pi400 being any good, is the pope of the Catholic persuasion 😉 I think many hobbyists would prefer the pi 4s, 3s, etc... My own personal curiosity, what's your viewpoint on a home Nas with the pi400 being the focal hub? Wow I'm a newbie (old generation ish) that has looked at interesting uses for the pi since ownership of the 400.. P.s thanks for helpful response and advice on downloading 64bit systems in a previous video and comment... This is where the UA-cam community and vloggers are great 👍.. The greatest concern we all have is not being able to purchase any pi's... Will look forward to getting more of your musings and reviews as and when they appear
When the Pi 4 b came out I bought the kit that included the keyboard and mouse. I had 2 or 3 of the key started to work intermittently. When the 400 came out they said the keyboard that was in the kit will the 4 was the same keyboard that was used for the 400 so it doesn't sound like a great deal to me. Right now I have a 4 b 8 GB that I'm not using much. I have a 4 GB I use a little. I have thought about 1 or 2 more to play with clustering but right now my money is kind of short to buy any even if they were selling at there old prices.
Use my Pi 400 more than I did the Pi 4 - especially now we are on 64 bit, running at 2147 & loading main OS via a Yucan 128G SSD. Plus I have other OS's on USB & SD cards (Ubuntu, RISC OS, Twister etc.)
My biggest issue with the pi 400 is that the keyboard is just so basic and cheap. I get that keeping the cost down was something they actively wanted to pursue but it's left the pi400 feeling unsatisfying to use for anything long term, outside of being a reasonable learning tool for kids.
We need an integrated Raspberry Pi + keyboard + one or two empty slots inside to plug M.2 / SSDs drives. The 400 solves the keyboard + CPU part of an on-the-go use case but NOT the storage part: an SD card is way too slow for serious daily work. In addition, there is not yet an official 8GB version (a hack is needed for a RAM upgrade). Is there a company somewhere willing to design such system? Argon? GeekWorm? Raspberry ?!
A little bit more power and it will be dangerous for the competitors. It has impressed me beyond all expectation. Luckily I could not buy anything else, because now I love my 400, I did not know what I was missing. Of course it is not optimal to build into your robot project. But it's still good for software development, and the IO port has easier access than many of the other enclosures. And when you need a break when your brain is running low on all that ingenuity, you can always relax by watching a UA-cam video on your 400. (But it is not the best choice, if you need Pi-cameras connection.)
Acheté le pack PI 400 pour 110 euros seulement chez KUBII en France . Le clavier est Français ,un peu marrant de ne pas voir cette machine disponible moins chère avec un clavier QWERTY Anglais . Pour en faire une machine de jeux ,le clavier QWERTY me semble plus adapté . J'espère un jour un RASPBERRY intégrant d'origine l'usage d'un SDD . Peut etre meme voir la carte CM-4 disposer d'une carte Mère de support aux format mini ITX avec toutes les bonnes connectiques dessus .
Over the last 6 months it has been my daily driver ever since my 2011 iMac was on the verge of death (yes, i squeeze as much use out of a machine as possible lmao). I also have a cheap windows laptop but tbh my raspi 400 gets more use usually, especially during the day.
The Pi 400 suffered from it's early success/hype. I can see the meeting now, "this new thing is great they don't want the old thing anymore. Make lots of the new thing."
A question and a comment. Could you plug in a USB hub for your low power devices like keyboard and mouse? I do recall Pi's having problems with some hubs before. Also, to clear up possible viewer cofusion, KDE is not an OS. It is a desktop environment (DE). In your example Raspberry Pi OS is the operating system.
The reason I haven't pick up a 400 yet is because I always expected there to be a Pi 800 _soon_ which haven't been the case so far. Provided what issues we have to deal with at large with supply chain problems and chip shortages, I have my doubts this will change either. Also speaking about that exact 3D model, I found the same few days back on Thingiverse which made me actually consider to order a Pi400 set in one or two days. Since its price is still acceptable here in Germany, things could be worse. Oh and speaking of Germany, the second sample of 'Joachim' is how we usually pronounce that name 👀
1080 30 runs fine on 64bit Raspberry Pi OS and this My current Linux OS Setup. Raspberry Pi 4 / 400. Download Links. ua-cam.com/video/zuo84DRhJPc/v-deo.html I haven’t used 32bit raspberry Pi os for some time
It doesn’t work for me. I think it may be a Pi3b version although it says it’s compatible with Pi 4. Tried usb, sd card, 2 different Pi’s gets stuck on boot. I even tried installing the desktop environment into Debian as it’s based on Debian. If it’s something you really want try asking a question on the forums. Le5 me know if they respond.
Pi 400 in Canada to-day C$70 (ex taxes S&H) standalone or C$100 complete kit. The Pi 400 is ideal for those that just want or need an economical solution for a fully capable, flexible and efficient computer. It perhaps lacks some features that SBC enthusiasts want but that reflects its design focus for broad educational support rather than as a demonstration tool.
Thanks, I should now have Amazon affiliate links for Canada and many other countries. If you get a minute would you mind clicking on any US link and let me know if it directs you to the Canadian site. 👍🏻
I haven't bought one as I believe Pi foundation missed a trick with the design. Running the 400 from an SD card is useless. There is tons of room inside the unit. Why was a SATA, ESATA or M.2 interface not included for internal mass storage? Until then it's not really useful for me. I'm hoping the next version will have mass storage facilities of some sort, especially as the pi can now boot directly from a hard disk.
What IMHO would improve the 400 and the Pi 4 or 5 if we ever see it is the addition of an M.2 slot . There is nothing wrong with the 400 but many already have a Pi 4 so buying the 400 is a waste of money , if on the other hand you are new to the world of Pi then the 400 is an option one should consider as it really gives good bang for your buck - just add a monitor or plug it into your tv and you are good to go and it still has the same GPIO pins . The only thing it doesn't have id the 3.5 mm audio jack and the onboard camera socket . The 400 keyboard isn't anything special and I do have some issues with mine which disappear if I use Bluetooth keyboard so I guess it has to do with the keyboard control board and I think this would be rectified if they used a decent controller. Funny thing is that even though I have a PC that will eat any Pi any day of the week I still use my 400 for watching UA-cam most of the time and I love the freedom and simplicity or the operating system - no gimmicks , no bloatware , no constantly wanting to send some information back to Microsoft or updating when you don't want it to . The Pi in it's various forms has bought affordable computing and programming to the people - long live the Pi !
Lightgun Games on Raspberry Pi 4 with the Mayflash Dolphin Bar. ua-cam.com/video/17IIMOtyHvw/v-deo.html Great Light Gun games on Raspberry Pi 4 ua-cam.com/video/IkXNtVz7gqc/v-deo.html
@@leepspvideo I tried using ETA prime video And I have problems mapping the controls for the gun it's like the buttons don't register. So i was looking for a more info
I have purchased three Pi-400s to give to my grandchildren as gifts, and they love them as everyday desktop computers and for games. Now I want one for myself.
I gave one to my 5yo daughter for Christmas she loves scratch.....
I have a PI 400 and I love it. I have a stack of external drives and SD cards full of various operating systems and I can turn it into whatever I want it to be. If I want a Linux desktop, I grab the HDD, if I want it to be an Amiga grab the SD card. I wish they made an 8GB model, but it's still great to use!
I bought two of them for my two kids back in 2020 as they came out. They used it for their homeschooling during the evil c pandemic. They used iserv and office 365 programs and had never any problems with it. The price for the kit was 110€ each in 2020 and is still available for 105 - 110€ here in Germany.
You do realize that the pandemic is still ongoing right what is with you people you seem to think the pandemic is over and it's not there still dowsing the people dying everyday from covid and it's actually worse now than it was back in 2019 2020 and 2021
The only down side with the Pi 400 is that its less "hackable" and isn't something you can easily stick on an electronics workbench next to a breadboard and an Arduino to mess around with. But as someone who came from the ZX Spectrum and Commodore Amiga many years ago, I appreciate the "home computer" design ethic - I think it was Dan Wood on his Amiga-focused channel that did a video showing how a Raspberry Pi is essentially the best Amiga every built. My Pi 400 mostly sits there as an emulated Amiga with Pimiga and it's a great little machine for that reason alone.
With that said, everyone's far too fixated on 8 GB RAM anyway, probably because they've come from Windows backgrounds where every time a new Windows version comes out, the RAM demand essentially doubles because of the built in bloat. The last time I touched Windows to build PCs with it was Windows 7 that always had a minimum RAM requirement of 4 GB, for example, and it used to make me laugh that people would sell PCs or netbooks with 1 or 2 GB RAM installed and Windows 7 and me knowing that PC would slow to a crawl within weeks with registry bloat.
I've been using Linux since 1996 (UNIX for a bit longer) and Gentoo Linux for my main OS since 2003. I still have perfectly functional dual core laptops running at 2 GHz with 4 GB RAM that are perfectly fine daily drivers - they are not going to run AAA games or do any serious video editing any time soon (just like a Raspberrry Pi) but, with Linux, are perfectly good daily driver machines for general office work, a bit of programming and browsing. Yes, some of them with Intel video chips will struggle with 1080p video on UA-cam but as they usually only have 720p capable native screen resolutions anyway, that's not really an issue.
I've got both a 4GB and 8GB Pi 4 and I don't see any appreciable difference between the two when using them side-by-side. To be honest, with the difference in price between the 4GB and 8GB version (in "normal" times anyway), for the same money I'd be more inclined to buy the 4 GB version with a 128 GB SATA SSD and a USB to SATA cable than an 8 GB Pi 4 because the SSD instead of MicroSD has a much bigger impact on speed than the additional 4 GB RAM.
People need to lose the "Windows RAM fixation". Linux is designed to be customisable to your requirements, it's why I chose Gentoo Linux as the ultimate "tweaker OS". I own an IBM Thinkpad R31 from about 2003 with a 1 GHz single core Pentium III CPU and 512 MB RAM that I make a point of using as my daily driver on occasions just to remind myself how obsessive the world has become about "more RAM and CPU power" without understanding why it's needed. Some of my day job is shell scripting in Linux, and I can happily sit there on that old R31 for a day, programming and testing scripts in Vim with an email client open on another screen and playing music from my home music server without thinking about it. To be perfectly honest, it's a great "distraction free" machine to use.
I agree with Terry Daktyllus. Since reasonably priced Pi 4's are in short supply, I purchased several 400's to do some parallel processing experiments which are working very well, but they're not very compact. I do wonder how well Pimiga performs emulated vs running on native hardware?
You can get some great GPIO adaptors that make it easy and accessible. I needed a second Pi as my Pi4 board is for my light server projects.
Strictly speaking it's the best *Acorn* ever built, but the confusion is understandable.
@@watchm4ker Acorn and Amiga were two completely different computers and OSs'. Which the pi can run both operating systems quite well.
So, I'm afraid you're the confused one here.
@@MaffeyZilog @Maffey Zilog6502 Yes. They were. The Acorn Archimedes was the first computer to use a CPU designed by Acorn's IC design team, later called Acorn Research Machines.
Wasn't too successful at first, but I think you'd agree it certainly had potential.
I got a PI400 for my 8 year old son Christmas 2020. It is just perfect for him. We connected it to an older 32 in flat screen put Twister OS (thank you Lee) on it filled it up with games and it's just great. 100 dollars for a way better PC than any computer I had until just a few years ago.
I got a pi400 and am thinking about a second! I love my clean desktop and dual monitor setup!
Thanks! Another Great Video!
Yeah it makes for a super clean setup if you manage the cables just a little bit.
I, love! My pi400! I use it every day, and it's very durable as well, it has survived water falling into it, error on my part due to the setting of a waterbottle. Either way, i love mine, i've managed to just plug it into my macbook cord, turn on my headphones, and boom. Thanks to Orca and the mate desktop and bluetoothmon, i was able to make my own little computer anywhere, with no display. And, it can even run on a battery. I love the thing, more people should get it.
Got a Pi400 unit for 6500 Rupees (~85 $) in India. Can't wait to try KDE + PiOS combo. Your desktop looks amazing!
Love the Idea of the 400. Just cant think of an excuse to pull the trigger to get one. My Pi 4 B 8gig has been serving just nicely, its latest upgrade was 1 Tb SSD a full rebuild of the server so it boots of USB SSD so it has a music server, Web Server and SMB server. there are the plethora of little pi zero and Pi Zero 2 projects around the house programming, data collection, playback A/V, connected to other GPIO hardware including the HQ camera module. There are iterations of various servers as well the one used by all in the house that nobody knows about is the Pi-Hole setup. My last phone I bought extremely powerful, that stooped me needing to take the laptop with me and with SSH Im never to faraway from little to big Linux hardware. though a 400 and a portable monitor is always tempting, though my phone and the same monitor keyboard and mouse can do the same... in the past I did take a pi 4 out in field it was a great little box of Swiss army knife of connectivity tools...
With respect, at about 1:45, when talking about KDE's vast functionality, you refer to it as an Operating System, rather than a Desktop Environment. I mention this because when I began learning about Linux I would confuse Distros and DE's. So, for any newbies...
I have 2 Pi 400s, I love the idea and sizing. One of them I turned into an "emergency computer" in case I need or want a computer (which actually gets used as such! Found myself waiting somewhere yesterday and made use of a display for that very purpose, got actual tasks done too) It's light and small enough to carry without straining my back/bulging my bag, and the inbuilt keyboard means I don't have to carry a separate one nor depend on the place I'm going to having one available.
The second one I have, I got it because even then there weren't any 4B's available, but its keyboard is pretty bad compared to the first one 😭 I would have rather had the 4B because I needed one for a project, but I can't bring myself to tearing the other 400 apart, even if its keyboard is annoying and doesn't work nicely 😔
I'm delighted I followed your suggestion of a few weeks ago and bought a pi400!
I'd watched your video recommending that people consider that model, rather than wait an indefinite period for a pi4. I've had an pi4 8G model on order with CPC since early Jan when the estimated delivery was 3 weeks from order, but I was getting emails every week moving the date back another week so it was receding ever into the future. I then got an email with a delivery estimate of November! I ordered a 400 from CPC (for £53.04 ex. VAT) the same day, but also started checking the web site you recommended for stock availability (rpilocator).
The day after the 400 turned up, rpilocator reported that OKdo had pi4 4G models in stock @ £44.84 (ex. VAT) so because I already had a keyboard, mouse, power supply and case from my earlier CPC order (which had been fulfilled except for the pi4), I went ahead and ordered one! So, I went from none with an estimated wait until November to owning two a few days after seeing your video!
Anyway, they are basically interchangeable - at least functionally - and I'm having a lot of fun with them! I'm working my way through your back catalogue of Pi News and getting lots of ideas and useful tips. At the moment I'm focussing on finding the limits of what a pi can do as a practical desktop machine, which is more than most people probably realise! My current project is integrating the pi workspace with my MacBook workspace so whatever is immediately to hand on one is immediately to hand on the other - that way I don't have to switch machines to access notes, calendars, passwords, etc. My main problem is remembering the new stuff I'm learning fast enough so I don't have to back-track to find it again (old brain syndrome!)
My advice to others, therefore, is to follow your advice 🙂
Thanks for a great comment. 👍🏻
I always saw the 400 as the "ready to go desktop" solution, where the regular RPI 4 could be used in all kinds of projects - with or without a keyboard (for example, OctoPi for the 3d printer. you have no need for a keyboard on that). So, at twice the price of a RPI 4, the 400 doesn't make sense to buy 20 of - therefore it's in less demand. but I wouldn't call it a failure. I actually want to pick one up as a desktop so I can move my Pi4 to a project.
Personally, comparing like for like (4GB Pi 4 vs the 400 unit), the 400 is a pretty good deal for desktop computing use imo. The cost difference is/was about £10 or so with some suppliers, and that's about what you'd spend on a case/cooling alone for the 4b (which you almost certainly need for any real use whatsoever!)
However, for other uses where you don't need (or possibly even want) a keyboard, it's harder to use the 400 unless you tear it open and account for the differently shaped PCB, amongst other things
I bought a pi 400 and it is great. I have even produced songs on it. Very impressed. Sound works great through hdmi and it's forced me to learn. Anything that does that has to be good...
I mean it's not even close to twice the price when you break it down. The 4gb pi 4 model is $55 for just the SBC and the RPI 400 is $70 for just the pi 400. With a stock clock of 1.8 out of the box, it's really more powerful thanks to the redesign of the heat sink allowing lowering operating Temps.
I've resulted to 3d printing custom cases for the 400 pcb, at least until the stock of the 4 is settled. Side by side my pi 400 beats my pi 4 4gb everytime. Just wish it had the pi camera connection.
@@VRtheFuture: Indeed, maybe it's different where OP lives but as above the difference between equivalent models is minimal, what you save on getting the Pi 4 can easily be overshadowed by having to buy a case and cooling, assuming desktop use.
Having said that though, seems like they compared the 400 kit to the standalone 4B - taking the 4B kit against the 400 kit still gives the 400 being cheaper (here in GB, PiHut lists a difference of £22 less for the 400, with the 400 kit only lacking one HDMI cable AFAICT!)
Hello! I get your point. However, the 400 at 100€ is the full kit. The 400 alone is at around 65-80€, for a 4Gb version, whereas the pi4 4GB is 50+€, often 60. So in these times of low availability, the 400 is not much more expensive.
As for projects, it require a bit more work, but you can remove the board from the case and use it for projects. the board is wider but not that big; as pi4 as bloody impossible to buy anywhere, that's the way i'll be going now!
I want to do the Mechanical Keyboard mod to the Pi400 and mount a SATA M.2 in the bottom to boot and run from, with some battery cells/packs for UPS function.
Just ordered one of these! Wanted to get a Pi4 for projects, but I couldn’t find any anywhere that were reasonably priced. Pi400 it is.
Looking forward to new projects and new ventures as this is my first time venturing into Pi and self hosted/created things (I’m in IT though so I understand some of it lol)
I like my pi 400 a lot. I had a pi 3b+ previously. My 400 overclocks perfectly at 2350. My only complaint is how scattered the info necessary to do things I want to do to get a nice properly working desktop running the applications I prefer has become. I feel very lucky to have found in passing the instructions for overclocking to 2350. I've only seen them in one place, and can't even remember where that place was- I copied and printed out the config.txt settings. That is just one example. It needs a good wiki or something.
I read that Pi OS was updated and the Pi400 runs a lot smoother now.
I just wish it came in black/Red. Then I would Buy it.
Goes off to check on your last RetroPi video........
I have pi400 and it works great. Pi400 has great heat sink and does not need a fan like regular pi4
In the Berlin shop "Berrybase" RPI 400 KIT costs €98.50 including shipping. Undoubtedly a wonderful PC in addition to the USB sound card and USB-SATA adapter for SSD use.
The RPi-400 is very versatile and I like the fact that it can run RISC OS 5.28 which I still actively use. I just bought one for my daughter for homeschooling as a Christmas present.
I have a number of // a variety Pi 'in service', including a Pi400. I love all of them, even the oldest ones. They all 'have a job to do'. The 'regular Pi' is a great educational tool, an experimental SBC, a small server, an IOT / home automation champion, and much more... I think the Pi400 has a job to play too. It's 'simple', familiar, surprisingly versatile and imho a lot of 'bang for ur $$$'. I like it a lot.
I use my pi400 basically as my primary desktop.
I bought a PI400, it works, I'm happy!
Sometimes I think that I would have been better off buying a Pi 4/4GB instead, because I normally use my Pi as a Home Server and as a NAS, but the keyboard is a Nifty Add-on! Won't complain!
Even from another perspective, If I get a barebones Pi with a good case and cooling solution, it would almost cost me the same, at-least here in India. Pi400 looks neat, No hassle, No ugly cases and fans hanging, and foremost -> reliable!
When the pi400 came out I thought I ordered one. Must have clicked the wrong button and got the pi4 kit instead. lucky me. I ordered the pi400 and got it in December and got it too. Got a pi3 also before the prices went through the roof. I was given the original pi and a 2 pi2s. Got a ZeroW and Zero2W and 2 Picos too. I enjoy playing with them. Thanks again for your informative videos.
Hi Lee. I concur with your findings. The pi400 is great! Got mine from OKdo last week for £65.27, free shipping. Followed your video on how to set up KDE on Raspberry pi OS 64 bit, and it works brilliantly. The only issue I have is with the rear ports are a bit close together. I lose one when using my adwits USB3/WD m2 240gb drive. But I’m sure to work it out. Great stuff
I would love to eventually add a 400 to my collection, but was just lucky enough to score a regular 4 for a specific project I have planned.
I am still using old twister os.
I had simply assumed that the Pi 400 was still available, during the current chip shortage, because the Raspberry Pi Foundation had committed a lot of their limited chip resources to it because I would imagine it was the best model for children and schools to use.
The only thing they did wrong with the pi 400 is not including an audio jack, meaning you would need an extra USB adapter or HDMI audio splitter for one if you don't have speakers on your monitor! And that kinda defeats the purpose of the "everything you need in one package" focus of the product. So although I don't personally have one, that's the only issue I see with it. I hope that they continue that series in the future with a pi 500 and on, cause it really is a great idea and a great product just as it is right now.
And btw when trying to snap windows in kde, focus on where the mouse cursor itself is hitting the edges of the screen, not the whole window you're dragging. Since the mouse is dragging from the title bar, if you drag the window to the middle right for example, the mouse will be closer to the top right corner and is more likely to snap the window to the top corner, not the whole side of the screen which explains why it seemed a little finicky in the video.
I was also put off a bit by the missing audio jack. I do like that Canakit sells a breadboard breakout kit, which means prototyping is reasonably available on the Pi400.
Pi 400 is silent, overclocks higher than pi4 keyboard at the ready, usb boot works out the box.
So for me, the fastest pi I've ever owned.
Just different form factor for what people do, I'd say it's not for people's normal projects but any networking stuff you want to setup or even gpio projects it's much easier working from the 400, nice and contained without the spaghetti of wires to do it locally or any fan noise.
I think the form factor makes it less popular. I do like mine. it reminds me of my old Sinclair ZX81.
I got one when you said they were still available. I've got pi's but wanted another to play with, but not way over priced. I think that they're great, but they are not SBC's which may be the reason for not selling like pancakes. I think Raspberry pi 400 is a huge -well small - improvement on much older almost forgotten form factor. my first computer a vic 20,( well 2nd, had a Tandy TRS-80 before that). This form factor is ingenious for someone that just wants a computer for email web acess without a bunch of fiddly things. plug it into tv and go. Its not for a hobbyist. Its a new tool.
I think it fills a niche for some types of desktop use. However much of the use of Raspberry Pi is by makers. Also as a desktop user myself I prefer to use a standard keyboard. So the market must be a good deal smaller than for the standard Raspberry Pi. But if you want the Pi packaged into a keyboard it must be very attractive. The need for a separate mouse must make it difficult to use on your lap in front of your TV
I have a pi400 running Chris Edwards PiMiga amiga emulation compilation and it runs great. I think the 400 is less successful because of the use case, people love to use them headless or in a custom case and the options there are extremely limited especially if its used as a retro console or a media player.
Pimiga is amazing
I have all the Pi 4B series along with the Pi 400. I like the Pi 4B 8 GB in the Vilros keyboard/touchpad hub the best. The 400 is a little better for travel though especially since I have a bag for it.
I just bought a Pi 400 just so I could gut it for a project since you can't get a readily available 4gb version of the regular Pi 4 nor the CM4 in 4gb or 8gb. I got tired of constantly sitting on rpilocator, etc and am making lemonade when given lemons.
I run Supreme with roms on an external usb and a Logitech wireless controller for my 400. Sits at my kitchen table. Love it. I am going to check out that os you started off with. Looks great.
I have a pi-400 and use it with Emby for a media server. I LOVE IT.
I use my pi400 with libreELEC as a portable video streaming/media player/emulation device that I can bring to anywhere with a tv and have everything ready to go. I suppose the hacked firesticks can do that too but I love the keyboard and performance is really good. Nothing like going into a hotel room with wifi and basically plugging in the pi400 and having all my accounts set up and ready to go to watch Netflix/Prime Video or Rumble,/UA-cam etc. It also acts as a UPNP server so I can play videos stored on it on our 4k tv without plugging it in. The pi400 is fantastic for it's purpose.
I recently bought one very recently and I'm extremely happy with it. I had a file server consuming 50Watts or more before and now the Pi400 is doing all of that and the other things, while not needing fans / heat sinks like the P4B's. And it gives me some real motivation to do Linux after 30 years in the IT business and being frustrated with Linux most of the time.
My local shop is out of EVERYTHING but the Pico and some kits.
I can only buy the Pi 400 kit with the book and mouse included.
8Gb Pi 400 would be great.
watching this on an identical setup, i have found it to be totally usable as an everyday rig!
Raspberry Pi 400 is brilliant! It’s is my MAIN EVERYDAY COMPUTER! 👍👍👍👍
Please for the love of Pete put this in an IBM model M keyboard.
I think its simple... The PI400 is great. But not for special DIY projects that just need the little PCB. Like Camera Setups, Network things, Controlling etc... I use it for Amiga Emulation with Pimiga or CaffineOS. And it does a great job. I dont even know why people buy an AMIGA Mini when they even get a working keyboard PC with the PI400 for less.
I love my Pi400. I just recently installed 64bit Kali Linux on it. I don't see why a lot of folks don't like it.
Because a lot of folk just need something to complain about.
Pi400 full kit available in Australia for $160 au (£94 roughly)
From core-electronics.
Running bullseye x64 on mine full overclock with plasma kde de, I hardly use my desktop PC at all unless playing demanding games or doing graphic work. My power bill has dropped dramatically since the switch, so versatile too, I just swap out disks to switch from libreelec, to debian bullseye to retropie or batocera!
It's an absolutely brilliant little machine, I really love my pi400.
I've had a RPi400 for a few months now and I like it quite a bit. I have added a powered USB hub and it works fine and saves me the RPi400 usb ports.
I wish the forthcoming Pi's had an empty M.2 slot (so you can choose the 'HDD' size to your liking and budget)
An empty RAM slot so you can choose how much RAM you need/want.
That would be fantastic and initial cost would naturally be very low.
I have 2 Pi 400's and I'm happy with them other than the somewhat 'clustrophobic' 4Gb RAM.
hmm,, is there a reason u can't upgrade the ram ? or r u suggesting they somehow add a connector ? do they even make ram slots that small?
I brought it for the really good heatsink
The Pi 400 is brilliant, but a touch underpowered for what it tries to be. It seems to me that it wants to be a low budget, low power desktop replacement. It's still a tad too slow to really be acceptable for most people in that role. And its form factor isn't quite compatible with the people who get Pis for hardware tinkering.
When there will eventually be a Pi 5, I think that will have right specs for what the 400 was aiming to be. I don't want a Pi 400 for the above reasons, but I am excited for a potential Pi 500.
I think it often depends what you are used to using. Although I have an iPad Pro and M1 Mac I still find the Pi is fast enough for many things I want it to do.
You are absolutely right, I still waiting for mew Pi 500, PI 4 is my multipurpose home server.
I've found that switching to a SATA SSD makes a noticble performance improvement. I've done this on my server and the pi I used on the desktop, and they work quite well.
Purchased one for my nephew as a b-day gift. Have to wait a month (when his b-day is actually) to give it to him. Of course he's nearly 30. lol
Still, for $99 (S&H got me, since I had to pay nearly $120 total) but with mouse and book, felt it worth the total cost. As a side, at this price, it would make for a great kiosk for schools to browse the internet on. Lots of other possibilities, too. Just regret not buying one for myself. lol
:)
The Pi 400 is a brilliant idea. But as I'm limited on space, I don't have the space to dedicate to an extra desk, keyboard and monitor. So I use a 3B on the back of my main PC's monitor as a Retropie gaming system, another mounted in a Pi-Top (Mk 2), and another Pi-Top (Mk 1) with a Pi 4. I also have a Pi Zero W (currently setting up as a Pi-Hole). I want the latest version of the Pi 4 (with the same 1.8 Ghz CPU as the 400), to upgrade my monitor mounted Retropie system, and Pi-Top (Mk 1). But can't get them. This video has given me ideas about at least replacing the monitor mounted Retropie Pi 3 with a Pi 400 - maybe out of its case, mounted to the monitor, or make a bracket and mount it under the desk and use a KVM and Berryboot to make it in to both a Retropie system, and power effiecent desktop replacement for web browsing and UA-cam. I'd love to figure out if I can get one of these to mount (minus keyboard and heatsink) in a Pi-Top, but can't find the dimensions of the bare motherboard. Looks like I'm talking myself in to buying a Pi 400. :)
I wish the 400 had 8Gb.
Yeah running android really eats up RAM... But on linux you can use swapfile, so 4 GB is plenty.
My Pi400 is the only Pi i use lately, a update to that would be nice, and if The Pi Foundation was to make a official ras-pi Bluetooth mouse that would be awesome
I managed to cram a M2 22.42 SSD inside the 400. Take it to work where I go to hotel rooms and such. Also got a rtc inside the case.
Great machine.
Any photos?
Yes, documented over on the raspberry pi forum. Username vital spark.
@@micure74 👍🏻👍🏻
About 2 weeks ago (Mar of 2022) I purchased the Pi400 kit (book, power cord, mouse, micro HDMI cable) from Canakit for $100USD. The Pi400 by itself still goes for $70USD IF you can find one. I didn't mind shelling out for the kit since it hasn't been price gouged yet. I like it, but I'm on the hunt for a monitor. I'd like something small but not too small to keep with the Pi400 so I can move it around.
Update, I found a monitor. RCA DETG138R. It's a 13", weighs next to nothing, and the case is CLEAR! These are referred to as "prison TVs", hence the need for the clear case, and as such are priced much lower than other 13" monitors.
If they used a Smaller board like the pi 4 in the pi 400 it would be sold out too. Because people would buy it and gut it
Could always get one of these. Later, upgrade to better case with cooling and all.
Here in the US I just bought the kit for $99 USD which was quite nice and mainly just using it as a desktop
About 75€ in Germany for the bulk version
I put XFCE on my rasberry pi 400. The 64bit release has given it a very noticeable boost in performance. I have the OS installed on an external SSD and have mine overclocked as well. I've been trying to learn a new programming language with it.
Now its sold out on most websites.
No Good? It's the best desktop replacement there is !
I would have bought a 400 by now but the keyboard put me off since it looked exactly like the official raspberry pi keyboard which wasn't a good keyboard, and the one I had regularly wouldn't register some keypresses. I read some comments about similar problems with the pi400 at least at release.
I have never experienced problems with the keyboard on mine
@@leepspvideo I find that on my 400, I have to be very definite with keyp[dresses and it works well. If I don't pay attention, like when I'm typing fast, it sometimes doesn't register keypresses. I just type carefully and it isn't a problem, but I would love a better keyboard.
I assume it's not because the 400 is a fail, but because it's less versatile. The A and B form factor of the SBCs are better for projects, but the 400 works.
The Pi400 has a ton of competitors - as it's kinda entered the 'laptop' market but without a screen. So that might account for it still being in stock. Not only that, but he Pi400 is also competing int he same as regular Pi's. So it doesn't have its one 'natural/home' retail strata. One thing people don't seem to have considered is that maybe the Pi400 was massively overproduced?
I like the enclosure. I need a Pi for OMV.
The Pi 400 is my Pi of choice for day to day use. It's as powerful as you can get & keeps desk clutter to a minimum.
Canakit says my Pi 4 4gb is finally shipped. I’ll believe it when I see it. Almost 4 months now since I ordered.
Fingers crossed
I ended up buying from a local reseller who ripped off a huge amount for the pi400(not the kit). With the device added the official power adapter, HDMI and a 256gb Samsung sd mini card.. all for GBP 122
It’s an excellent ready to use out of the box product, I love it. Only wish it had 8gb, hopefully next generation.
I think the 400 is awesome for what it is and it's in stock because bots, scalpers and just the fact not as many people have room for a traditional desktop set up and if they do they'll probably want or more than likely have a much more powerful setup, but to be fair I'm pretty sure raspberry pi foundation kills the SBC game and has made any loss back on the 400's with all the pi 4 scalpers
It makes a nice second room setup.
Another good 👍 video...
The raspberrypi 400 I purchased as an emergency computer..
With regards to pi400 being any good, is the pope of the Catholic persuasion 😉
I think many hobbyists would prefer the pi 4s, 3s, etc...
My own personal curiosity, what's your viewpoint on a home Nas with the pi400 being the focal hub?
Wow I'm a newbie (old generation ish) that has looked at interesting uses for the pi since ownership of the 400..
P.s thanks for helpful response and advice on downloading 64bit systems in a previous video and comment...
This is where the UA-cam community and vloggers are great 👍..
The greatest concern we all have is not being able to purchase any pi's...
Will look forward to getting more of your musings and reviews as and when they appear
I have a WD my cloud nas so I haven’t ever used the Pi as a nas. It’s on my list to look at. 👍🏻
When the Pi 4 b came out I bought the kit that included the keyboard and mouse. I had 2 or 3 of the key started to work intermittently. When the 400 came out they said the keyboard that was in the kit will the 4 was the same keyboard that was used for the 400 so it doesn't sound like a great deal to me. Right now I have a 4 b 8 GB that I'm not using much. I have a 4 GB I use a little. I have thought about 1 or 2 more to play with clustering but right now my money is kind of short to buy any even if they were selling at there old prices.
If there was a way to set up an internal battery, I'd buy a dozen of them - but apparently, it can't be back-powered via GPIO.
Use my Pi 400 more than I did the Pi 4 - especially now we are on 64 bit, running at 2147 & loading main OS via a Yucan 128G SSD. Plus I have other OS's on USB & SD cards (Ubuntu, RISC OS, Twister etc.)
My biggest issue with the pi 400 is that the keyboard is just so basic and cheap. I get that keeping the cost down was something they actively wanted to pursue but it's left the pi400 feeling unsatisfying to use for anything long term, outside of being a reasonable learning tool for kids.
We need an integrated Raspberry Pi + keyboard + one or two empty slots inside to plug M.2 / SSDs drives. The 400 solves the keyboard + CPU part of an on-the-go use case but NOT the storage part: an SD card is way too slow for serious daily work. In addition, there is not yet an official 8GB version (a hack is needed for a RAM upgrade). Is there a company somewhere willing to design such system? Argon? GeekWorm? Raspberry ?!
Yep. Great Pi. Also with add ons, great for experiments with gpio and experiments with sensors, including AstroPi sensehat. With Adafruit Cyber Deck.
A little bit more power and it will be dangerous for the competitors. It has impressed me beyond all expectation. Luckily I could not buy anything else, because now I love my 400, I did not know what I was missing. Of course it is not optimal to build into your robot project. But it's still good for software development, and the IO port has easier access than many of the other enclosures. And when you need a break when your brain is running low on all that ingenuity, you can always relax by watching a UA-cam video on your 400. (But it is not the best choice, if you need Pi-cameras connection.)
I have a pi400 and really like it. The keyboard could use some improvement though, it doesn't do the rest of the package justice.
Acheté le pack PI 400 pour 110 euros seulement chez KUBII en France .
Le clavier est Français ,un peu marrant de ne pas voir cette machine disponible moins chère avec un clavier QWERTY Anglais .
Pour en faire une machine de jeux ,le clavier QWERTY me semble plus adapté .
J'espère un jour un RASPBERRY intégrant d'origine l'usage d'un SDD .
Peut etre meme voir la carte CM-4 disposer d'une carte Mère de support aux format mini ITX avec toutes les bonnes connectiques dessus .
My only problem with it is that it does not have camera connector :(
Same. I enjoy it nevertheless.
Over the last 6 months it has been my daily driver ever since my 2011 iMac was on the verge of death (yes, i squeeze as much use out of a machine as possible lmao).
I also have a cheap windows laptop but tbh my raspi 400 gets more use usually, especially during the day.
Old macs are great! I have a playlist on my mid 2010.
Mid 2010 MacBook a1342
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The Pi 400 suffered from it's early success/hype. I can see the meeting now, "this new thing is great they don't want the old thing anymore. Make lots of the new thing."
i love my pi 400. mine is running manjaro kde 64 bit all updated and super fast.
I find it great that you took the effort if finding out how Joachim is pronounced
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A question and a comment. Could you plug in a USB hub for your low power devices like keyboard and mouse? I do recall Pi's having problems with some hubs before. Also, to clear up possible viewer cofusion, KDE is not an OS. It is a desktop environment (DE). In your example Raspberry Pi OS is the operating system.
Yes, at one point I had a hub plugged in. The micro usb one in most of my Zero 2W videos. Not sure why I was calling it an os. 👍🏻
Hi, just found your channel love it😀, can I ask where did you get SD card storage box?
Pi news 35. Windows 96, SD card storage, Pikiss Retroarch installer & Conky rings. Raspberry Pi.
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The reason I haven't pick up a 400 yet is because I always expected there to be a Pi 800 _soon_ which haven't been the case so far.
Provided what issues we have to deal with at large with supply chain problems and chip shortages, I have my doubts this will change either.
Also speaking about that exact 3D model, I found the same few days back on Thingiverse which made me actually consider to order a Pi400 set in one or two days.
Since its price is still acceptable here in Germany, things could be worse.
Oh and speaking of Germany, the second sample of 'Joachim' is how we usually pronounce that name 👀
How about an update on the 64bit switch and have there been any noticeable improvements in watching videos , is there smoother playing , etc
1080 30 runs fine on 64bit Raspberry Pi OS and this
My current Linux OS Setup. Raspberry Pi 4 / 400. Download Links.
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I haven’t used 32bit raspberry Pi os for some time
Make sure you overclock GPU to 750 and set video ram to 256 as well as limiting UA-cam play back to 30fps as lee mentioned, over voltage at 8 not 6
Do a video on parrot os for pi4 has been released
It doesn’t work for me. I think it may be a Pi3b version although it says it’s compatible with Pi 4.
Tried usb, sd card, 2 different Pi’s gets stuck on boot.
I even tried installing the desktop environment into Debian as it’s based on Debian.
If it’s something you really want try asking a question on the forums. Le5 me know if they respond.
@@leepspvideo Thank you
Pi 400 in Canada to-day C$70 (ex taxes S&H) standalone or C$100 complete kit.
The Pi 400 is ideal for those that just want or need an economical solution for a fully capable, flexible and efficient computer. It perhaps lacks some features that SBC enthusiasts want but that reflects its design focus for broad educational support rather than as a demonstration tool.
The complete kit is such a good deal.
Thanks, I should now have Amazon affiliate links for Canada and many other countries. If you get a minute would you mind clicking on any US link and let me know if it directs you to the Canadian site. 👍🏻
I haven't bought one as I believe Pi foundation missed a trick with the design. Running the 400 from an SD card is useless. There is tons of room inside the unit. Why was a SATA, ESATA or M.2 interface not included for internal mass storage? Until then it's not really useful for me. I'm hoping the next version will have mass storage facilities of some sort, especially as the pi can now boot directly from a hard disk.
What IMHO would improve the 400 and the Pi 4 or 5 if we ever see it is the addition of an M.2 slot .
There is nothing wrong with the 400 but many already have a Pi 4 so buying the 400 is a waste of money , if on the other hand you are new to the world of Pi then the 400 is an option one should consider as it really gives good bang for your buck - just add a monitor or plug it into your tv and you are good to go and it still has the same GPIO pins . The only thing it doesn't have id the 3.5 mm audio jack and the onboard camera socket . The 400 keyboard isn't anything special and I do have some issues with mine which disappear if I use Bluetooth keyboard so I guess it has to do with the keyboard control board and I think this would be rectified if they used a decent controller.
Funny thing is that even though I have a PC that will eat any Pi any day of the week I still use my 400 for watching UA-cam most of the time and I love the freedom and simplicity or the operating system - no gimmicks , no bloatware , no constantly wanting to send some information back to Microsoft or updating when you don't want it to .
The Pi in it's various forms has bought affordable computing and programming to the people - long live the Pi !
Leepsvideo gould u do a video in install and using a wiimote for light gun games on a pi?
Lightgun Games on Raspberry Pi 4 with the Mayflash Dolphin Bar.
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Great Light Gun games on Raspberry Pi 4
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@@leepspvideo I tried using ETA prime video And I have problems mapping the controls for the gun it's like the buttons don't register. So i was looking for a more info
@@corykristy2594 I linked two videos from other UA-camrs I used in one of my videos. I think I showed some configuring as well
Awesome I'll check them out thank u so much