Lian Li - Galahad II liquid AIOs [Performance]
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- I have been running each and individual Galahad II liquid aios for a couple of days before conducting these test. These are the results. Besides this, I will cover the proper way to connect these liquid AIO pump connector to the motherboard.
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00:00 | Intro
02:20 | PC Parts and UFEI Configuration
04:40 | Benchmark application and the methodology
08:28 | The Proper way to connect the Pump block connector
18:34 | Benchmark test
19:19 | The results
27:50 | Noise test
32:16 | Friendly reminder on Pump block connection
34:59 | End - Наука та технологія
Lian Li are recalling the Galahad II Trinity Performance AIO'S
hI Mapantz1, welcome back, I am not aware of this.. mind to share where you get the info from as I do follow up on Lian Li's news lian-li.com/news/ I don't see it on their official website hmm ..
@@Mapantz1 ah ha.. thank you. saw it :) www.reddit.com/r/lianli/comments/17hjcmx/galahad_ii_trinity_performance_update/ I had my unit like two months before the release date. I have no issues on my unit. Thanks for the update, will pin your post. thanks!
@@en0n hi, welcome back. Aik! so sorry to hear that. Hopefully you will get it soon.
@@Eraz But the pump is PWM, so it's designed to run at at lower speeds if the user wishes to do so. It's a manufacturing defect, so it is an issue.
@@Eraz Hi, welcome to my channel. Yup you are correct. pump should always run at full or at 80%, but some choose to run them way below 80% and have it fluctuate consistently. I have bad experience before and have changed the habbit not to run pump at PWM mode which is based on temperature.
The best videos on UA-cam. You are the best. I was going to buy this AIO in few days and I haven't knew all of this. Nobody else explains anything. Thank you so much.
Hi Боремся против Барби, welcome to my channel. Not too sure which liquid aio model and type you are getting, I was info by my viewer @Mapnatz1, there is a recall on some Galahad II Trinity Performance as it's official word from Lian Li www.reddit.com/r/lianli/comments/17hjcmx/galahad_ii_trinity_performance_update/. If you are getting this model Liquid AIO, you might need to wait. Thank you for your kind words and all the best with your build too.
Wow! That's tons of work. Kudos on your time and efforts. You never fail to deliver. Your analogy or layman explanation made it clear. Thank you Kleo, keep up the good work as always. 😍
Hi Nox, welcome back, thank you for your support as always 😉
Well done and thorough video. I’m liking those Lian Li AIO’s more and more
Hi Frank M Jr, welcome to my channel and thank you for your valuable feedback 😉
i have the version 1 of the 360 performance just sent off for RMA , glad i saw it here!
Hi CajunSands, welcome back. So sorry that you have a faulty set. Hopefully the replacement will be fast. Thank you again for your feedback.
As I mentioned in one of your other videos: I wish the Lian Li manual would make these things a bit clearer. For example: It doesn't specify what header you should plug the fixed PWM-cable into that comes from the waterblock. Only says "4 pin PWM" in the manual, IIRC. I just checked my board's manual and, sure enough, its CHA_FAN headers provide 1A each while the CPU_FAN header supplies 2A and the CPU_PUMP header gives up to 3A.
The manual also doesn't make clear that the AIO's PWM cable is what's supplying power to the pump. I was suspecting it might just be on there to provide a PWM-signal or to prevent the motherboard from freaking out when there's no fan-connector plugged into the CPU FAN or CPU PUMP headers. Thanks for clarifying that it's actually the PWM-cable and NOT the SATA connection that powers the pump.
Hi 1SaG, welcome to back. Yup, I have highlighted this to Lian Li and hopefully their future AIO will have indicate of which cable supply power to. Thank you for sharing your info and to feedback too.
Thank you for the videos. Really good. I was going to get the performance version, but after saw so much problem and people having to send 2, 3 times to RMA. I'm between LT720 and galahad ii 360.
Hi Luciano Campos, welcome to my channel and do pardon me for the late reply. Both function AIO you've mentioned, does their job well. Hope you will find something you need 😉
@@KleoYan thank you for your reply. I'm tending to choose the regular GA2. Do you think it would be worth adding the fan kit of the performance: p28?
@@lscampos it will performan slightly better, as tested on my end, it's about 2 to 3 degrees better 👍
Thank you so much Kleo! I have been waiting for this review and comparison between de Performance and LCD versions! I did order the Performance, but was hesitating for the LCD. It seems they are very close in performance, but the Galahad Performance is about 125dollar cheaper than the LCD. What version would you choose if money was not a issue?
Hello Hany_20vt, welcome to my channel, either one will work. I would go for the Trinity Performance. Though the LCD is nice.
Thank you
Hi Vladsta, welcome to my channel and thank you for your response.😊
I would upgrade from Galahad 240 which is on a 5800X3D (always at 90c!) to the new LCD 280mm but the radiator wont fit in my Air mini at the back. Looks like a good upgrade although higher price. Thanks for the review.
Hi adv10, welcome to my channel. Thank you for your feedback and to share your experience with the Liquid AIO Size in a Lian Li O11 Air Mini.
I've had 71'C on Galahad II Trinity with power consumption at 180w and 2100 rpm pump in Aida 64 FPU stress test
Hi Эльдар, welcome to my channel. It’s good to see you are having good results and thank you for for sharing 😉
Not looking to get an AIO nonetheless I always do like me some cooler tests 🤓! So🙏
A minor suggestion and/or tip about sensor readout presentation.
If u want a better way to display the sensor stats with customizable font, font-size, and font-color as a simple OSD (On Screen Display)👌. AIDA64 Extreme has that nifty OSD feature, as u can set a hotkey making toggling it on/off quick and easy🙌. Completely eliminating the hassle of using HWiNFO64 and hooking into another process to get the “in-game” HW monitoring overlay to display stats 😉. AIDA64 Extreme is very well suited for for displaying specific stats in a way that HWiNFO64 simply can’t. Not only that you’re also able to configure a transparent, semitransparent or even opaque background directly behind the stats to make it fit the specific presentation scenario, with or without small HW identifying icons as well🤓👌. AIDA64 in my experience have had hardware sensor support parity with HWiNFO64. Tested with 5 different models of motherboards and 3 different GPUs.
Don’t get me wrong..I love HWiNFO64! As I’m daily driving HWiNFO64 I’ve also customized it to make it really nice and cool looking with the primary purpose to greatly improve the user experience. I’ve configured the sensor presentation changing the font, font-size, and font-color, regrouping the sensors in a more intuitive way.
Anyway enough of me rambling about irrelevant shit🫠
Cheers m8!
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Oh..sorry I forgot to ask..🙄..have u come across or had any experience with the ASUS ROG Strix XF120?
Hi MaXuS, welcome to my channel. Hey not at all, I am glad you've shared info with me. Thank you and I will look into Aida64. As for the Asus XF120, I might need to ask Asus Singapore to loan me some and to test them out (both on rad and case cooling) Can you drop me an email so that I can follow up with you.. as I might lost track on comments in UA-cam, my email address is godzylatech@gmail.com thank you. 😉
Man I would love to have seen a video like this with the 13900ks or 14900k as the draw tons of power and create a lot of heat. I have a galahad 360 on my 13900ks and wanted to upgrade but now I read in the comments that there is a recall.
Hi sumtincrazy1, welcome to my channel. Thank you for your suggestion. this content gives you a rough gauge on how these liquid cooler perform. as for your request, I see what I can do, no promises. As for the recall, yup it's written at Lian Li's reddit. you might want to wait awhile if you intend to get any of the Galahad II liquid AIO family.
Bought this AIO in July on release. The pump just started making loud whizzing noise. Not the kinda of whiz when you go to the bathroom
Hi birdsoup777, welcome to my channel. Sorry to hear about this. Maybe RMA your unit and have it replace as I believe your unit is still under warranty. lian-li.com/contact-us/
I have a 5950x system with 128 Gb of ram (corsair vengeance RGB RT), a RTX 4090 gpu, 011 Dynamic XL and the Trinity II Performance. My AIO worked for all of 8 days then the pump failed. Everything was connected correctly. I am currently waiting on a replacement from Lian Li which should arrive in the next couple of days. In the meantime, I installed a Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE air cooler. I have to say the air cooler is working great even under load and is only about 5 to 8 degrees warmer than my Performance was even after 12 hours of constant use. It is also much quieter than the Performance. I think I am just going to keep using the air cooler and leave the Performance in the box. Far less headaches.
Hi ya Unknown Comic, welcome back. thank you for your feedback. Not sure why you are facing the issue but yes less headache to strap on an Aircooler. lesser cable to work with.
My performance water pump also failed last week. Bought a Sycthe Fuma 3 as a stop gap solution. My 5950x was at 80 to 90 degree during gaming. Was considering PS120, but afraid there is not enough clearance in my ITX setup
@@en0n as you've mentioned. you are here in SG, ITX system can be very challanging. I gave up with my ITX build as I know even if a liquid AIO can cool the processor, the other components will suffer and it's not good in a long run. Unless you turn on your Aircon while using the ITX build. Else my advise is, dont. For region like in Singapore, it will be best to use at least a m-atx build.
Would love to see an intel version of this review as they are much hotter and draw more wattage (ie 13~14gen - 13700k~14900k). Thanks for the awesome review. Also notice the GA II performance, the FAN speed seems to be at the low setting? High setting fan rpm is at 3000max where low is at 2300max. Sorry if i missed anything in the video...
Hi DS, welcome to my channel, I will see what I can do as currently am collecting all the Liquid AIOs besides from Lian Li. Thank you for the suggestion. I will work on it 😉
@@KleoYan I'm thinking of buying the Lian Li Callaghan 360 Performance for my i7 14700kf. It's the only liquid that's renowned and has enough power to properly cool this processor. Is it worth buying or does it have many flaws for the users? What other cooler do you recommend?
Too bad that the GA II Performance AIO is having pump issue, it was really a beast even when comparing with the other brands, plus it is the cheapest one among the other Galahad AIO.
Really hope Lian Li could learn something from this failure and come back with even more reliable design in the future.
Hi miZuTiERia, welcome to my channel. I believe Lian Li have acknowledged on this and there are some fixes done. It will also be great if you can highlight this at Lian Li’s Reddit forum. Their support them are there to read comments or feedback. That might help. www.reddit.com/r/lianli/ on my end, kindly allow me to do a screenshot of what your have mentioned to them. Thank you. 😉
Another peace of art you upload on your channel. But i have a question ,in your previous video of deep cool LT720 the core goes almost 5ghz and power draw is about 200-230 watt but in this video the power draw is not going over 160 watt , If you don't mind pls explain us 😊😊
Hi Shivang001, welcome to my channel, sure, back then I was using an older bios for the X670E Steel Legend. which is version 1.11, which whatever PPT you have set, it will just pull. back then the PPT settings was at 180000 = 180watts. it pulled beyond 180watts. As for the 5Ghz, I did not use average core clock as I did in this content. I choose the max out of the 16 cores of the 7950X (yes back then I am still noob and learning lol)
As for this content, I have upgraded the latest Bios which is 1.30.AS05 [Beta] , I have also tested version 1.28. both bios react the same and I have mentioned in this content, due to the new bios.. there is an AI build in.. it will first determind how much cooling your system is then will adjust accordingly to what is approperiate. therefore you can see that in UEFI, I have set PPT to 172000 = 172watts but you witness the benchmark.. it didnt pull as I have set. it determind what to pull and max I can pull is at 158watts. as for the core clock why it's at 4.8 or 4.9 max. I dont think I need to repeat my self if you have watch this content of what i've said.
@@KleoYan thanks for you reply I will share your videos as much as possible. You done a lot of work keep it up bro .
@@shivang0017 hi don't mentioned it.. I am glad to share what I know and I am not perfect either.. thank you buddy for your support. 😉
@@KleoYanI still don’t understand the results here. If you limited PPT to 172 watts they should all be hitting 172 watts unless they hit what ever your thermal limit is set at (by default it’s 95C). The only thing that appears to be somewhat consistent in the results is the voltage of 1.03 (3 of 5 units) and 1.04 (2 of 5 units). I would love to see a video of what the trinity 360 performance can actually handle on a 7950x running at full speed with the normal limits only really being 1.3v on the CPU SOC (so you don’t fry it / most new bios even asus limited to this now since the issue was discovered and overvolting and ruining the x3d CPUs). The 7950x has a unlocked TDP of 230 watts. No one seems to have made a video or posted any test results if the 360 performance can handle all 230 or not. There are plenty of videos out there showing that it can handle the 300+ from 13900 and 14900 intels. Obviously the thicker IHS on 7950x in my main concern / curiosity here. Also: I guess Lian Li has pulled these from the marker essentially? They used to sell for less than $150 in US and now the only ones you can find are from obscure sellers for $250 or more. Sounds like pump failure issues are true.
Great vids Kleo, I have a problem with the LCD screen not working. Everything in the app works except the LCD block screen, which is most important aspect of this cooler. I have the latest version 2.04 and the latest firmware ver. 0.9. Everything is connected just like you have it, and have checked that usb connector on the side of block is snapped into position correctly. All of the other options in app work fine except LCD screen only shows the Lian Li logo, also when a picture of the LCD block shows up in the L-Connect3 app it is blank nothing showing. I had a lot of problems getting it to work at first but with some Intel downloads from the Gigabyte motherboard site and the new firmware 0.9 everything but the screen works.
The only other issue that I have is rgb lights and fans will not turn off when I shut the unit down, have to flip toggle on PSU to completely shut down.
This is a new build, Specs are: Lian Li EVO XL case, gigabyte Z790 Aorus pro X MB, gigabyte Aero 4090, corsair ddr5 dominator 7200 ram, Lian Li sli inf reverse fans, Lian Li GA II LCD aio, i7 14700K cpu and Seasonic 1200 watt psu. I have the aio rad set up in a push/pull configuration. I have watched all of your videos on this new LL lcd watercooler and feel like you might know what is causing this. As you know this cooler is quite expensive and one of the main things is the LCD screen, so for this not to work makes me think I should just return it, which would really be a shame since the build is finished with the exception of this and the lights and fans staying on after shut down. Any advice you can offer will be greatly appreciated!
Hi Mr. Grim, welcome to my channel. Lets do the basic.
A) First are you able to see any Lian Li device in device manager, under universal serial bus devices?
B) if no, can you check your motherboard bios at gigibyte website? www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z790-AORUS-PRO-X/support#support-childModelsMenu There are two version of you motherboard, please check the correct version which you are having.
C) Now have you install the .inf driver for your motherboard? if not, get the driver from gigabyte website again.
D) if above are done. try this, uninstall L-Connect 3app and your gigabyte fushion if you did install, using revo uninstaller, make sure to remove all unwanted first and registry. example in this vid on the actual timestamp ua-cam.com/video/uMgUYiakpxM/v-deo.htmlsi=8isUQ9pWvKounfgZ&t=437 and the application revo from here www.revouninstaller.com/revo-uninstaller-free-download/ (download the free copy will do)
E) once all done, shutdown your machine. unplug the AC plug from your PSU. let is sit for 45 seconds or so. while waiting, check the connection of your LCD block (make sure the type C is click in) and the connection point to your motherboard USB header.
F) plug back your AC plug and turn on your machine. see if it detect the Lian Li LCD controller in device management > under Universal Serial Bus Controller (right below)
G) If it does detect, install L-Connect 3 app version 2.0.4
H) launch the L-Connect 3app and under settings, check if your firmware is uptodate.
I) If everything working, reboot your system, load L-Connect 3app. Hopefully this time your LCD will work.
@@KleoYan My man Kleo!! Thank you sir! It was the inf. driver, thought I had installed it with a download from Gigabyte but must not have. Anyway all is working for now, I'm still a bit gunshy but will keep an eye on it and any new updates for firmware.
I hate to ask since you've already been a great help, but any thoughts on why my rgb lights and fans stay on after I shut the system down? I have already disabled the fast start and turned to off on the Link state power management, but they still stay on. I am using the aio control box with the two push/pull fan groups on rad, and also the bottom 3 / 140mm and 3 / 120mm fans on side, (rad is top mounted). The 2 fans in back are on the uni fan controller, did have to use the NZXT usb adapter for more usb connections, also the strimmer control box for the two strimmers. Hate having to flip toggle on psu, everytime I need to shut down completely
@@MrGrim-oo5bq on your power plan in windows. Check on power shut down. Make sure is not at sleep mode. That could be one of the caused. If that is not the issue. I advise you to ask at Lian Li Reddit forum and the tech should be able to aid you or others who have face your issue. www.reddit.com/r/lianli/
I'm thinking of buying the Lian Li Callaghan 360 Performance for my i7 14700kf. It's the only liquid that's renowned and has enough power to properly cool this processor. Is it worth buying or does it have many flaws for the users? What other cooler do you recommend?
Hi JonGaming, welcome to my channel. I believe I have replied you on your other comment. This GA II Trinity Performance is more than capable to cool your 14700KF, as for recommendation besides this.. it will be the Deepcool LT720 , Arctic Liquid Freezer 360 II or III and the Azza 360 Cube.
Would you buy Lian Li Gii Perf or Deepcool Lt720 for a 7950x3d?
Hi Funk the duck, welcome to my channel, if you given me the two choice. I would go for GA II Trinity based on the dual rad fin stack and the strong performance fan.
Have ordered the deepcool LT720 as saw there were issues with the galahad trinity ii. Was just wondering will it be worth it to switch over to the galahad trinity ii with the infinity fans? Or is the Deepcool LT720 performing better ? Thank you
Hi Drow, welcome to my channel. If you have already gotten the LT720, just use it the temperature wont be that drastic unless you go for Galahad II Trinity performace or the LCD model.
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Thank you for the reply. I really appreciate your videos, very informative!! Thank you for your work!
@@drow233 you are most welcome. All the best with your build 😉 do let us know what’s the outcome. Thank you.
Hi Kleo, i just check my AM4 Asus motherboard. My AIO, CPU Fan, etc all are only 1A, so i guess i should just stick to whatever AIO i have for now, no point getting newer high speed AIOs? Thanks.
Hello Melvinooi for Asus AIO_Pump thought it’s stated as 1a, I have check with Asus regarding on mid tier board, they are rated above 1a, which the correct ampere is at 1.5a. As for liquid AIO. If your current is working fine and its usage is less than 4 year, no point changing if its working fine and with good temps.
@@KleoYan So plugging my Galahad Trinity Performance (4200rpm) into the aio_pump header on my Asus Strix z790-F should be enough amp or do I need to use something like the FLEXA FP5
5 PWM fan splitter? Also can I just only plug in the pump "fan" cable on leave out sata, usb etc and the pump will run at 4200rpm?
Thanks! Building my pc tomorrow and just saw this 😅
I can see that you reported that the header should be 1.2 or 1.5 an and enough, do I manually put it in DC mode in bios? I don't wanna use any software :)
@@fi5ke Hi welcome to my channel. The pump when you plug to the AIO_Pump on Asus board, it is sufficient to drive your pump. As for the Sata, that is to power up your LCD and also to supply power to your Fans. you will need to have that plug.
I wonder how this compares to the new Lian Li Galahad II? what do you think will cool the i913900k better? what do you recommend LIAN LI GALAHAD II LCD or EKWB EK-Nucleus AIO CR360 Lux D-RGB ? ASUS ROG RYUJIN III 360?
Hi Roman Grigorenko, welcome to my channel. If you pay attention to this content. All are the new Galahad II family. As for which aio to recommend. I do not have the EK-Nucleus nor the Ryujin III to compare. so sorry about it.
👍 👌 🙆♀️ 🆗️ Спасибо ✌️
@@RomanGrigorenko most welcome.
Hey Kleo Yan you said in 14:10 1A only so if im owner of Z790 ASUS board it will be bad ? or unusable ? on LianLi site they showed that SATA is for power. pwm for control.
Hi Time less, welcome to my channel, the Sata is for power and pwm control, which is correct but that is for fans not pump. As for Asus board, you have an AIO_Pump header. plug that in as I've checked with Asus, their AIO_Pump header are above 1A, just make sure that you plug the pump connector to this header and you will be fine.
@@KleoYan Thanks for response soo AIO_Pump on datasheet says 1A and this "port" can "do" more wattage than asus claims on datasheet ? i don't see any forum that asus said about that. But if you tested with ASUS thats good to know.
@@KleoYan Btw did you know how much Amperage this Pump Draw ? No word says about Amperage or current that pump need for stable work.
@@timeless9927 I have consulted my Asus Singapore support tech and the rating is 1.2 to 1.5a on the AIO_Pump.
@@KleoYan Thanks.. so for Galahad II is enough for 3K RPm/s i think :D
Im really worried about this at 14:10
my Z790-E Strix (Revision 1) manual says the same thing, all the fan headers and pump everything it's 1A/12W it says.
My CR360 Nucleus AIO Pump has been running fine for over a year, but I recently swapped all the fans to Phanteks T-30's on Advanced Mode up to 3000 RPM (0.36A apparently is max Amp, when spooling from 0). So far I haven't had any failures.
In the BIOS if I set to 3000 RPM, it definitely sounds like 3000 RPM, but the sensor reading takes about 30 second to actually reach 3000 RPM (goes from idle to 2000~ RPM fast, but then slow increments to 3000). When I run R23 in Windows, where my fan curve is supposed to be 100% at 85c, my PC will get to 80c, but the AIO is only reaching 1850-1900 RPM. Nowhere close to 3000.
I also read that on starting up pc boot, the Amperage on fan draw can be very high.
So far my PC seems ok. But I am very worried about the fan header long term. As currently all 3x T-30's on the AIO are connected to CPU_Fan, daisy chained.
I think I will unlink one and have 2x go to CPU_Fan and 1 go to CPU_OPT.
Hi ashryver, welcome to my channel. If you want my honest opinion, I will get a fan hub for that, where the current is drawn directly from your PSU and to power up your fans. The tact and rpm can plug to your motherboard to control the fan curve. This is one thing about Asus motherboards, they are all rated 1A, unless your board is of a higher tier like the asus apex, encore and etc. I too have the issue like you did. Nevertheless you did the right thing as to split the connection points to CPU_OPT where it takes the fan curve from CPU_FAN.
@@KleoYan Hello!
Yes I currently use a fan hub for 4x Lian Li fans. Upon learning about the 1 Amp limit on fan headers I was worried about those too, as they are RGB and surely above 2A total since I know it is all on CHA_FAN_2.
But I realize that the hub is powered by power supply & USB, as you say. So that is safe, the fan header connection is just to control RPM.
Do those Apex manuals also say "1A/12W" for everything? Is Asus just lazy to properly document it, since here and in your video/comments you mention they are actually rated higher, according to Representatives.
Considering I didn't have any trouble with the 3x T-30 attached to CPU_FAN, I am inclined to believe it may be 1.5A or 2A, instead of 1A ...
That said - yes splitting the daisy chain into 2x -> CPU_FAN and 1x -> CPU_OPT seems to be working correctly now, and sync RPM properly. I will leave it like this, since as you say it is safer. It should only be 0.36A on CPU_OPT and 0.72A on CPU_FAN.
@@ashryver3605 You did a good setup for your fans to draw the ampere. Plus to have 2 fans at 0.72A on a fan header at 1A, the fan will spin at ease as compared to have 3 fans at 1.08A on a fan header at 1A. To be honest, Asus boards are good structure and design but the only setback are the fan headers which I dislike, other than that, it's fine.
Regarding the 1A fan headers, wouldn't it be ideal to use the Noctua NA-AC4 power supply adapter that comes with the NA-FC1 fan controller? It's a splitter for SATA power and PWM.
Could perhaps the more stable power lowers pump noise etc etc?
Hi fi5ke, welcome to my channel. if your fans (daisy chained) draws more than 1A, yes, it is more ideal to use the Noctua fan hub and controller and to provided more stable ampere to your fans. As to lower down using the controller. Yes you can do that but on pump, I advise to run either full speed or 80% consistently. This is to avoid early wear and tear on the pump motor.
@@KleoYan Thanks mate, I actually wanna run without the Lian Li USB, Sata and rgb, so only the pump and then the fans separate controlled by the motherboard. I actually don't know how much amp the 3 fans use (the p28 use 0,75a for 3).
I was just thinking if I run the pump on the sata cable only (not using the Noctua controller), then the pump gets full sata power and the motherboard stille see's the pwm data.
It couldn't hurt? Maybe more stable current? I'm gonna run it 100% anyways.. but maybe the fans use more Amp than the pump cuz they are 3000rpm vs p28 2600rpm 🤣
@@fi5ke Hi, I like to help but I have no clue what components are you using or have. maybe list down what you are having on hand or intend to get. This way I can try to aid in a more precise manner.
@@KleoYan Ah my bad, thought it was obvious 😅
Sure. It's just the aio in question (GA II Trinity Performance) with stock fans and a z790-f strix.
I'll try and order a Noctua NA-AC4 (input cable with power supply adaptor) and power the pump from sata. Do you have any idea of how much ampere the Lian Li' performance aio fans use? - can only find the p28
@@KleoYan and my bad for dividing my questions, the mobo info etc was in another comment you answered, hehe
And thanks, bro, btw!
Galahad II Performance or Luquid Freezer III 420? Who is the winner? What do you think?
Hi Alex Kayman, welcome to my channel. I will go with the Arctic LF3 420 or even the LF2 420 anytime. 1st bigger radiator surface area and 2nd runs quiet as all at 140mm fans, using lower RPM.
Ok, thank you 👍
@@alexkayman8483 you are most welcome.
I'm going to buy it to use with I7 12700k
Hi Syzee7, welcome to my channel and thank you for your feedback. All the best with your build. 😉
Hi Kleo, you just made me realize something looking at my fans in the L-connect software for the Al V2 fans and SL-INF fans are set to standard speed, but my question is and hopefully it's not wrong, but my pump/aio cooler is set to FIXRPM by default 2686 RPM is this right or should it be PWM or can I keep it on fixedRPM and increase it a bit or can I leave it at fixedRPM 2686 RPM speed what would you do?.
Hi SirSone1, welcome back. For the profile of your fans, it's up to you to set so no wrong about it. As for your pump which is default at 2686RPM, it's perfectly fine. I assume you are using the GA II Trinity SL-INF as the max rpm for the pump of your unit is at 3200RPM. Therefore your percentage of the pump is at 83% Fix. It's all good. As I have mentioned in this content, best to run pump full or at 80%. Your pump meets the requirement ampere, don't worry about it 😉
@@KleoYan thank you kleo I have hit 42k score in cinbench r23 multi core with 0 thermal throttle and avg temp 60/77 during load and max temp spike 82/86 otherwise it's around 60/77 for my E cores and and P cores using the aio galahad II trinity sl inf 360mm using your advice couldn't be more satsified! :> (oh I forgot to add ambient room is 20c)
@@SirSone1 .. I giggling hahah.. am glad you had good thermal results, happy for you.. congrats on your build too.
@@KleoYan Thank you and yeah I'm thinking about playing around with undervolting, but I do not know if that will cause a decrease in perfomance or increase o.o
@@SirSone1 for intel, your thermal is good, but with a little tweak. it might bring down your temp a bit lower and consume lesser power. you might want to try using this application from Intel www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/17881/intel-extreme-tuning-utility-intel-xtu.html now do view some XTU vids and practise with caution ya.. what I use on this application is just to play with the Vcore by lowering down. you will face unstablity but that's perfectly fine.. just that you will need to save your profile.. but if you are fine with what you are having now. I suggest you leave it till you really have time to tweak. ua-cam.com/video/KV6h53y3AV0/v-deo.htmlsi=lb-j-gG5biun8wTO
I was about to buy the performance model for a new system. Thank god I didnt with the pump problems I have discovered! But there are retailers actively selling these, all with dodgy pumps, and they are totally unaware of the issue!! Thats VERY bad on Lian Li, they should have made all retailers, especially mainstream sellers of their products in the UK like Overclockers. I enquired about this with them today, their tech support were unaware and are still going to sell the stock they have and any stock they order in. So that has convinced me to buy another brand. Its a shame, I had spent a lot of time looking into these and set my heart on the performance model, believing it to be outstanding in performance and longevity. But clearly they are not. I would advise everyone to avoid until they are proved to be capable.
Hi Phi Daniels, welcome to my channel. Sorry to hear that your sellers are not aware of it. It was on Lian Li’s news page lian-li.com/news/?cn-reloaded=1
Not all units are bad. nevertheless thank you for your feedback.
I don’t see a thing on their news page acknowledging pump failure on their performance model.
@@TheJudge-iu1ss hi and welcome to my channel. it's being broadcast at Lian Li's reddit forum www.reddit.com/r/lianli/comments/17hjcmx/galahad_ii_trinity_performance_update/
What would you buy a ryujin iii or Galahad 2 lcd
Hi Jaxon327, welcome back. If I am to use Asus motherboard. I will grab the Ryujin III as all in one application. Else if for other motherboard and not using their ARGB program. I will grab Lian Li Galahad II LCD. Anyway both Asus and Galahad performance are identical. Won’t go wrong with either one.
@@KleoYan ok I have a z790 apex but all LIAN li fans but I’m not sure the ryujin would fit the apex it’s pretty tight around the socket. Looks like the Galahad 2 lcd would fit better
@@KleoYan also I appreciate your replies
@@Jaxon327 I see, all the best with your build 😉
@@Jaxon327 dont mentioned it, I am glad to of help. 😉
Singapore needs water cooling, too.
Hi BoB, welcome to my channel, hmm. In general whoever wanted a Liquid AIO can have it, not just Singapore tha needs it.
Not a fan of the way all the fans and RGB are routed through the pump. When I look for an AIO, I look for one with seperate fan cables and seperate RGB for the fans. This provides more options to customize your setup instead of everything having to be set up one way.
HI Mergatroid Mania, welcome back. This I have to agree with you. my pump and rad fans are of separate fan headers on Motherboard. Just that need to be mindful of the ampere of fans, thats why these are designed this way as some fans on this Galahad II family are running at 0.36a each, some motherboards have fan headers which are of 1a, so ya.. nevertheless I do agree with you to have total control of these fans rather than to use the AIO Pump as the bridge.
Lian Li need to alter Connect 3 software to stop pump from running to slow (quiet mode)
Hi Andy, welcome back. This I do agree with you and by default it should be runing at 70 percent which is ok for a start. I also believe that it is for individual to find out and to maintain their equipment. Anyway, there are arguement between some PC builders and myself. There are no rights or wrong. I would suggest if you can leave your feedback with Lian Li as my voice along is not enough. Thank you again for your feedback.
I don't know if this applies to the other Lia Li AIOs but the Performance AIO pump is not controlled by L-Connect. It is controlled by your mobo and should run at near full speed if you have it connected to the right header on your mobo.
@@unknowncomic4107 This I totally agreed with you. If you place to the incorrect header, thats the problem. the speed will not be full it will be like 1/2 or the max RPM. default on L-Connect 3 is at 3000+ rpm as shown in my illustration for this content. you got to set it to 4200RPM manually and provided you connect to the correct fan or pump header of your motherboard. Thanks Unknow Comic 😉
Hi.. I have 360 aio galahad II trinity performance, some times a start my pc the fans still run 100% and cpu temps close 100ªc the pump simply not work i go the bios fast before pc down overheat and i se aio pump monitor speed at 7000rpm wtf.. i restart my pc and come to normal the pump now running at 4200rpm and temp and fans still ok. i was PWM now i go try to put in DC if the problem is over. the pump are conected in aio pump header on motherbord and fans in cpu fan. my mobo is asus rog strix b550 f-gaming
Hello Bruno Reis, welcome to my channel. When you set to PWM mode. The total control is through L-Connect 3 app unless you have set it to sync to motherboard mode. I am not sure why your GA II Trinity performance react this way. You might need to monitor if you are getting usb intermittence issue.
@breis1985, @KleoYan Same issue here! Just got my trinity performance friday and mounted the same day, turned on the pc in bios, i saw 104°c and immediately shut it down manually. I'm using a 7950x paired with a gigabyte b650 gaming x ax(every header is 2A- i hope that's not a reason to react like this?).
If i unplug the pump and plug it in a different header, i boot into bios, the temps are 30-31C. I restart into bios to double check, the same. Then i proceed to do the windows boot, i immediately turn hwmonitor on, i see idle temps at 40c(ambient 22). Fine, then i restart into bios and the cpu is like 55C and steadily climbing 1°C per 2 seconds(now the pump doesnt show up in bios anymore).
I have to say, judging by the SN on my product(after seeing a reddit post) I have the revised V2 version of the trinity performance. I've wrote saturday to LianLi's support and i'm waiting for their respond regarding my issue. It's such a shame because it's a really high quality built AIO, very nice fans and materials and the pump is MASSIVE(WHICH I LOVE).
Even tried reseating and repasting the cpu(although I didn't think this was the problem) but with no success. I think something's wrong with the unit, unfortunately..
****once you get the pump to show in bios and restart the pc, it can run for hours, even at full speed, i've tested it today 3h, no problem with temps, playing GodOfWar max temp was 44°C(currently the only cooling in the case is provided only by the trinity aio, the case itself is otherwise empty- it has no fans installed). Give me your thoughts on this, Kleo. I honestly count on LianLi fixing this lineup's problems.
@@cristianstefanm6478 hi welcome to my channel. it's weird that you have the pump acting on you. I am having the very first batch. I did use it for like 2 weeks or so. Let me fix this up to a test unit and to use it for a couple of weeks to see if I have the same issue as yours. At the meantime, I will feedback your findings to Lian Li.
@@KleoYan Thanks! I don't know, if that's what you want to test, go ahead.
Maybe try using a "cheaper board" in the sense that you'll plug the pump into a 2A/24W header. Let me know if you find anything!
@@cristianstefanm6478 ok.. rest assure, most of my boards are 2A. can you send me a quick email at godzylatech@gmail.com , so that I can keep track as there are lots of comments I need to reply on my channel. With an email, I can update you too. Thank you!
I wonder how the Galahad 2 LCD would perform versus ASUS' Ryujin 3 360 ARGB. Both boast nice displays, same generation of pump, specific fans for their rads, but ASUS' is way more expensive and according to OC3D---actually performs better than Lian Li at around 65 degrees on bench. If you have this AIO, could you do a comparison? It would most likely save a lot of people money if the results end up being equal at best.
Hi kamikaze00007, welcome to my channel, I did a review on that but i not longer have it, it's returned to Asus Singapore. so sorry, can't compare. my bad.ua-cam.com/video/5G9gAoD3mww/v-deo.html
我两款都有，联力效能版是最强的，比ryujin 3 低2到3摄氏度
@@jmaskaguan Hi and welcome to my channel. Thank you for your feedback too.😉
Can you explain why pump should be always at 100% and not in pwm please ?
Hi Michael Paris, welcome to my channel. Example fans, they are not submerge in water, therefor PWM curve is ok, unlike the AIO Pump. Having irregular prolong spining rotation of the pump propellers, the motor will get damage easily. Another factor is gunk accumulation, it might get stuck and this will cause propeller to make noise, besides the bubbles. That's why is always better to keep a consistent rotation of the propellers to have the consistency of fluid flowing. by the way, I have mentioned either 100% or 80%. I have no issues to run most of my Liquid AIOs at 100%. my Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 is one very good example and I am still using it, which I have bought it since year 2019. Another liquid AIO is the EK Elite 360 which is currently in use on my sibling's rig. same apply to the LS720 on my parent's rig. All survive till today and all are running at full speed.
Thank you for your reply and your videos are very good and informative keep it up
@@KleoYan
@@TheMichaelparis Hi, don't mentioned it and you are most welcome.. thank you for the enouragement too.. will try to keep up 😉
The pump is also loud at 4000 RPM
@@jamesm568 I believe you have heard the demo in this content. It does give off noise but it's not that loud when you mount this in a case. If you do hear it as loud as a jet engine, kindly raise a support ticket with Lian Li. warranty.lian-li.com/registrations/new