It's so fun watching zero. Every tournement he pulls new tricks and techniques from the book. This time he used close banana while recovering to trip the opponent and throwing the banana up for shield pressure and extended combos. Truly amazing play
bruh, y'all need to stop antagonizing ZeRo. I totally understand getting bored of seeing the same person win over and over again, but ZeRo doesn't even win as much anymore. y'all salty
ErikStar For me; a grand finals that comes down to the wire on both ends regardless of player or character is a great tournament. Screw character bias.
Solid plays from both. That was an amazing set. Glad to MKLeo bringing the heat. Glad to see the consistent plays from zero. Zero is the brick wall of smash 4.
I'm pretty sure Leo is going to become the best at this game eventually. He just need 2 things: Get better at some matchups that he struggles (Bayo, Sheik, Sonic and DK mainly, but also get a little better against Olimar, Bowser, Peach, Pikachu and MK). And figure out what to do against ZeRo. It's just a matter of time, I think ZeRo has peaked, and I think Leo is slowly distancing himself from all other players.
I don't feel like Leo is much better, if at all, than players like Nairo, Tweek, Salem, Larry, Dabuz, VoiD, Mr. R. Even ZeRo doesn't show complete dominance anymore because now multiple people have proven to be able to beat him consistently, or at least get close very often. I also don't believe that being young means you can get alot better compared to older players. Maybe a bit, but not much. Remember this is Leo's first top 8 finish in an S tier tournament this season. And ZeRos first victory.
Maximous Prime Look at the PGRv3. ZeRo had no competition, not even Leo, but also Leo was really far away from everyone else. I believe that last season's PGR showed reality pretty good. ZeRo at the very top far away from everyone else, Leo second still very far from everyone else, and another big gap between the top 5 and the 7th place. From 7th to 50th it was all pretty close. And also Larry got 6th, he got a spot between everybody else and the top 5, and that is also fair since he is not at the level of the top 5 (Dabuz, Ally and Nairo are better than him), but he is also distinctly better than everybody else. Leo and ZeRo have both had a bad start for the season. When they lose its almost always due to something related to their mentality or somebody adapting. It's really rare to see them just getting outplayed when they are playing good without involving a big surprise adaptation from some top player. Losing a tournament in the case of ZeRo and placing badly in the case of Leo puts them in a little bit of a bad streak, they get scared because they are thinking it could happen again, and that makes a little vicious circle. It happened to ZeRo when he started to lose against Ally and it happened to Leo when he placed badly at Civil War. Luckily for them they are also pretty good getting out of that situation, most players have more difficult time getting out of bad streaks than them. Also they can perform really badly due to tournament pressure. It happened to them at Civil War and happened to Leo again at Evolution. But they still can randomly lose to a player if that player prepared heavily to beat them, they are not invincible. Leo lost to Vinnie at DH Atlanta because Vinnie prepared for Leo for a really long time, studying his play style and his habits. And Dabuz beat ZeRo at Arms Saga for the same reason. That can happen. But that adaptation works only once. Once they lose a set they are really good at finding the right counter adaptation, and even in the same tournament and sometimes even in the same set they can turn the situation completely around. They can lose. They are not invincible and they will lose more sets and tournaments in the future. But it's really difficult to beat them, it takes a lot of preparation. Mostly they lose due to their own mentality, they get nervous sometimes at the S tier events and people in their bracket prepare a lot to play them in said events. Even still they manage to do very good for the most in the big tournaments. And they just destroy everybody in A, B and C tier events because they don't get nervous and people for the most don't really prepare too much for those tournaments, you can most clearly see their dominance at those events.
They both played SOOOOO FREAKIN GOOD!!! Love both players, although I play Marth so I lean towards Leo a little. Such a great set, loved every second of it.
It's unfortunate this community is full of shit. Always complaining about nerfed characters / characters they can't deal with. Why can't you people just enjoy the damn tournament instead of worrying about what player pushes their characters to grand finals? Because bias.
It's very weird how MKleo always lose to ZeRo. So many players beat him recently, Salem, Nairo, Tweek, Ally, Dabuz, even players which are "not Smash legend" like Samsora, luhtie, Mistake. Why an amazing player like Leo really can't beat this man? There must be something...
Lmao everyone's complaining about Bayo. She's a good character, so what, it's not like she wins every tournament. Fox has been the best character in melee for twice as long as Smash 4 has been around so all of you guys can quit your damn complaining.
ZeRo has been struggling alot against Clouds actually. Mr. R reset a bracket with his Cloud after getting beaten with sheik, and then took it to game five where he flubbed once which got ZeRo the win. Tweek has beaten ZeRo with Cloud before, even Ned has beaten ZeRo with Cloud. So if your Cloud is on point thats a very good pick against ZeRo.
ZeRo's movement on Game 4 after he took MK Leo's first stock was amazing. He has so many tricks up his sleeve that we have yet to see.
It's so fun watching zero. Every tournement he pulls new tricks and techniques from the book. This time he used close banana while recovering to trip the opponent and throwing the banana up for shield pressure and extended combos. Truly amazing play
bruh, y'all need to stop antagonizing ZeRo. I totally understand getting bored of seeing the same person win over and over again, but ZeRo doesn't even win as much anymore.
y'all salty
S tier
>300 entrans
ShadowLink678 it's still an S tier
Honestly SOOO glad Zero won and is keeping the Bayopocalypse from getting out of hand
Dude, it was Leo who slayed the Bayos, ZeRo didn't had to face a single one, and lately he is been losing to Bayo a lot.
david jurado Yes, just like in Low tier City 4 when he beat mistake, lima y abadango right?
Andres Trujillo he also lost to mistake
BigMiityClaws but 3-0d him right after
Plus it was bo3 and he lost to jank/rage
Finally, Zero is back. I hope he'll start winning and stay at #1. I love this guy
Mr. L Me too
I hope someone else takes the number 1 spot for once
Like Leo, he deserves it
Can not relate
Ya I like Zero too
I guess Zero was the Gusher King after all
Might be on to something
A tournament without Bayonettas in grand finals is a great tournament :)
So most tournaments.
that aint even true
ErikStar For me; a grand finals that comes down to the wire on both ends regardless of player or character is a great tournament. Screw character bias.
^^^agree
There was only 3 Bayonaise out of all the majors.
When ZeRo turned it up Game 4. Holy shit!
Great job to Zero. Finally a win at an S tier event this whole season.
That looked like ZeRo was pushing Diddy to his limits as a character, amazing set to watch, congrats ZeRo :D
Zero needs to stop getting hit by these limit up b's above the stage. lol
Damn Zero looks so much happier now not competing
So happy that zero finally has his first S Tier win of the season!
Zeros banana play was ridiculous this game
Solid plays from both. That was an amazing set. Glad to MKLeo bringing the heat. Glad to see the consistent plays from zero. Zero is the brick wall of smash 4.
Fruit Gushers Saga
I was gonna reply to Leo in twitter when he said he was gonna face zEr0
"Try not to get rekt" but.........
Diddy's special trading with Cloud's up air just shows how OP Diddy is.
HE'S BAAAAAACK
i loveeeee ZeRo . i hope he can continue to win and stay #1
zero started MOVING game 4 let's go!! he turned it up
Why the dislikes?
Just salty haters/one hater with multiple accounts.
niL nomiS Zero suck, same combos always. Plz Nitendo, ban Diddy
Captain Quickscope Direct to me to any evidence in which bayo players disliked this video
Sergio Vera really? what about Cloud? haha
Zero won, a lot of people are tired of him winning even though he hasn't won in a while.
I'm pretty sure Leo is going to become the best at this game eventually. He just need 2 things: Get better at some matchups that he struggles (Bayo, Sheik, Sonic and DK mainly, but also get a little better against Olimar, Bowser, Peach, Pikachu and MK). And figure out what to do against ZeRo. It's just a matter of time, I think ZeRo has peaked, and I think Leo is slowly distancing himself from all other players.
david jurado So git gud basically
fer stadthagen Yes, he is getting good.
I don't feel like Leo is much better, if at all, than players like Nairo, Tweek, Salem, Larry, Dabuz, VoiD, Mr. R. Even ZeRo doesn't show complete dominance anymore because now multiple people have proven to be able to beat him consistently, or at least get close very often. I also don't believe that being young means you can get alot better compared to older players. Maybe a bit, but not much. Remember this is Leo's first top 8 finish in an S tier tournament this season. And ZeRos first victory.
Maximous Prime Wasn't SSC an S tier event?
Maximous Prime Look at the PGRv3. ZeRo had no competition, not even Leo, but also Leo was really far away from everyone else. I believe that last season's PGR showed reality pretty good. ZeRo at the very top far away from everyone else, Leo second still very far from everyone else, and another big gap between the top 5 and the 7th place. From 7th to 50th it was all pretty close. And also Larry got 6th, he got a spot between everybody else and the top 5, and that is also fair since he is not at the level of the top 5 (Dabuz, Ally and Nairo are better than him), but he is also distinctly better than everybody else.
Leo and ZeRo have both had a bad start for the season. When they lose its almost always due to something related to their mentality or somebody adapting. It's really rare to see them just getting outplayed when they are playing good without involving a big surprise adaptation from some top player.
Losing a tournament in the case of ZeRo and placing badly in the case of Leo puts them in a little bit of a bad streak, they get scared because they are thinking it could happen again, and that makes a little vicious circle. It happened to ZeRo when he started to lose against Ally and it happened to Leo when he placed badly at Civil War. Luckily for them they are also pretty good getting out of that situation, most players have more difficult time getting out of bad streaks than them.
Also they can perform really badly due to tournament pressure. It happened to them at Civil War and happened to Leo again at Evolution. But they still can randomly lose to a player if that player prepared heavily to beat them, they are not invincible. Leo lost to Vinnie at DH Atlanta because Vinnie prepared for Leo for a really long time, studying his play style and his habits. And Dabuz beat ZeRo at Arms Saga for the same reason. That can happen. But that adaptation works only once. Once they lose a set they are really good at finding the right counter adaptation, and even in the same tournament and sometimes even in the same set they can turn the situation completely around.
They can lose. They are not invincible and they will lose more sets and tournaments in the future. But it's really difficult to beat them, it takes a lot of preparation. Mostly they lose due to their own mentality, they get nervous sometimes at the S tier events and people in their bracket prepare a lot to play them in said events. Even still they manage to do very good for the most in the big tournaments. And they just destroy everybody in A, B and C tier events because they don't get nervous and people for the most don't really prepare too much for those tournaments, you can most clearly see their dominance at those events.
ZeRo is a genius
They both played SOOOOO FREAKIN GOOD!!! Love both players, although I play Marth so I lean towards Leo a little. Such a great set, loved every second of it.
Sponsored by Gushers? E-sports in the big leagues now. *Kappa*
Normally, I'd say that it's easy, but congratulations to Zero, he made amazing plays, such as banana to Up Air.
M2K Fan I don't see how you can say ZeRo is cancer when he clearly doesn't Camp or have early kill confirms like some other players.
Edgar le thug ZeRo is not cancer, Diddys banana spam and broken neutral game is
Zero's edgeguards are sooooo beautiful
Quickscope diddy is not broken
refugee boat lol xd
but what do you have against a well played Marth?
Aquí se nota quien es el.mejor, zero is back!!
Ahh, the nostalgia
Yo these comments acting like Leo doesn't even EXIST ! Yung Cloud fought well, I hope he can take another tourney soon
優勝したのにこの盛り上がりの無さ…ZeRoの強さを表している
Who's here after ZeRo fought Leo online?
God damn Zero will never fall
good job to leo this second set is the way to beat this ddk. keep the good works
fuck zero had some sick ass conversions this set
Next video: Should Diddy Kong be banned?
ZeRo ya back
That first game first stock spike tho....
Who else thought this was a good set?
Please gime a like.
Sonicloud 777 It was a great set!
lol I'm always happy when Zero wins, screw all you bitter people! Do you prefer Bayo?
It's unfortunate this community is full of shit. Always complaining about nerfed characters / characters they can't deal with. Why can't you people just enjoy the damn tournament instead of worrying about what player pushes their characters to grand finals? Because bias.
Lmao all you zero fans always bring up bayo, so what. Do melee players hate fox?
wasnt Zero a meta knight player in brawl? wouldnt that make him as toxic as you claim bayo to be?
Wyld
ma boi win!!
Good thing MKLeo was taken out int the first set. I feel that Zero would had gotten 3-0 is there was a reset.
Maybe. That's a bad thing for us Leo fans though XD
Keep rooting, soon.
meta knight
congrats zero !
2020 anyone?
Was this a A tier tournament?
Diego Corral Nope, S Tier
Wrath Thank you!
We now have a character (bayonetta) that's so hated people route for a diddy main or mkleo to win.... (I like leo tho)
Manliest Marshadow People will always hate the winners. Unless you're Mango, that's the Smash community in a nutshell, the lower dregs of it at least.
Grand FInals
I wanted Nairo to win, but I was on team Leo in grand finals 😭
Kai Walsh I wanted ZeRo to win, so that Nairo beats Leo on the pgr. That's just me tho
It's very weird how MKleo always lose to ZeRo.
So many players beat him recently, Salem, Nairo, Tweek, Ally, Dabuz, even players which are "not Smash legend" like Samsora, luhtie, Mistake.
Why an amazing player like Leo really can't beat this man? There must be something...
Ryng Tolu Leo has already beaten ZeRo at ZeRo Saga.
That's for the plot, now it's for the plot amor
Ryng Tolu A lot of players that beat him that wasn't too "great" was ZeRo playing pretty bad tho.
Happens to thebest of them tho
David O'Leary But that was months ago, and he hasn't beaten ZeRo since. (I think.) In this current meta, ZeRo has Leo pretty much figured out.
Lmao everyone's complaining about Bayo. She's a good character, so what, it's not like she wins every tournament. Fox has been the best character in melee for twice as long as Smash 4 has been around so all of you guys can quit your damn complaining.
@Comment Cop According to Tweek, Bayo took the longest out of any character for him him to learn.
Mkleo should've gone corrin even though he lost to ZeRo at CEO with his corrin by SD'ing, ZeRo is just too good at the cloud matchup
This is channel is totally not shitpost he lost with corrin again at dreamhack he has used every character he literally has
ZeRo has been struggling alot against Clouds actually. Mr. R reset a bracket with his Cloud after getting beaten with sheik, and then took it to game five where he flubbed once which got ZeRo the win. Tweek has beaten ZeRo with Cloud before, even Ned has beaten ZeRo with Cloud.
So if your Cloud is on point thats a very good pick against ZeRo.
Mr. Fry tweek is s the best cloud
[Kairos] Nit Clash Royale not yet but he is close.
why don't they ever seem happy or excited to win? where's the human emotion and the hype?
Valiendo verg..
Dique
I’ve been on the mkleo lose train for years ahh i love this shit
Damn this game is so slow compared to ultimate.
1st.
Sonicloud 777 nah that's zero
Jarrod Dobben Yeah you right.