Hopper your doing GREAT!!:) I have the thermarest extherm sleeping pad rectangle instead of the mummy shape it's 25 inches wide 72 inches long love it kinda heavy it's great for me . Thanks for sharing be safe you got this bud
Thank you! It's a battle of ounces now and I'm really debating on the rectangle or keeping the mummy. We have guests this week but after they leave I'm moving to the living room for a few nights and sleeping on the pad. If I can't get comfortable after another 4-5 nights then I'll need to bite the bullet and go rectangle. I really appreciate the support!!
@@TrackingHopper You're so welcome. I can only say...this is what someone told me. If you're pack weighs between 30 and 35 lbs., then why are you worried about an additional few ounces for a rectangular bag that will insure better sleep, since sleep is so important. i kind of thought, well, huh. I'm not sure I know how to provide a legitimate argument on why I shouldn't. So, there you go! ;-) Take good care!
That's a good point but right now I'm in a battle to shave ounces. ha ha. I'm hoping I can get used to sleeping on the mummy style pad but if I can't then I'll have to move up to the rectangle. You can't go months without good sleep. Thank you!
Stick with it sir! I came across your channel right after you posted your first video and immediately subscribed. I, too, was a 40+, out of shape, overweight, beginner backpacker not too long ago. I enjoyed it as a teen and in my 20's but life got in the way. I grew up in the foothills of the Smokies and those mountains were the backdrop to my childhood. But I got out of shape and lost the love I once had for the outdoors. Fast forward to 2016 and I decided to get in shape. I dropped 80 pounds through hard work and dedication (motivation wears off quickly). Then my father passed away in February of this year and something about that made me long for seclusion in the mountains. I just returned from a multi-day excursion in the Smokies with some church friends. It was 30+ miles over 3 days/2 nights. I learned that I might be in much better shape now, but still not great backpacking shape. The AT remains on my bucket list for when I take early retirement from my job. One recommendation I have is to test out all the sleep system components in your back yard before heading out. I've done this myself. This way you can narrow down the problem items. Is it the pad, is the bag, maybe you're used to a pillow, etc. I ended up having to swap my bag and pillow out in order to get a good night of sleep. And now I find that I sleep like a baby in the outdoors! Also, remember that in the Smokies you're *supposed* to sleep in the shelters (though not everyone does).
I’m sorry to hear about your Dad. Thank you for sharing your story! I’m really testing the sleep system because I had some issues on my first overnight. Going to keep working to get the kinks ironed out. I hope you’re able to get on the AT and keep hiking!
Remember that the colder the outside temperature is compared to the inside of the bag or the quilt, condensation could occur. I’ve had this happen a few times this past fall while out in temperatures almost at freezing.
True. I’ve heard from a few folks that either added a layer of plastic to the inside of their tents above the feet to protect against kicking in the middle of the night. They added some Velcro tabs and a small sheet of polycro.
I stopped using sleeping bags 25 years ago. I use a quilt and there's no way I could ever go back to a bag again due to its restrictive properties, rectangular or mummy. Keep plugging along! You'll get it and when you do, you'll get your thru in no time. Check out the Big Agnes sleep pads, long wide and thick as well as several other brands. Get a good R value as well. Those mummy pads actually suck, but that's just my opinion on that style pad :). Please, don't dump the grounds of the compostable coffee set up away on the ground. It's an attractant to bears. Leave no trace, please ;)
The R value and comfort of my pad is great, it's just been the width but I'm getting more comfortable with it. Going to keep using it at home for a few more weeks to see if I need to change or not. My Enlightened Equipment quilt is awesome and the reason I went quilt is I don't really like sleeping bags either. Very constricting. Oh, good info on the coffee grounds!!!
Great video! I’m almost 50 and just started backpacking this year so I’m learning so much and can relate to your sleep pad questions. I’m a side sleeper that will toss and turn so I did a bunch of research and decided on the Nemo Tensor insulated sleep pad, rectangle 25 inches wide, and I love it. Then one night I froze my butt off for a few reasons and decided to buy a warmer pad except it’s an extra wide Mummy shape (accidentally bought mummy, thinking the “extra wide” would be a rectangle.)Realized my first suspicions were true, mummy pads are not good for my sleep! My feet spend more time off the pad than on, lol. Thanks for documenting your journey. We all experience similar challenges when we start out, but it’s cool that some folks like you are talented and patient with your camera and filming, you’re doing a great service for us who are not so inclined ;)
Thank you for sharing your story. I think sleep systems are the one area that doesn't really get enough attention and everyone has different needs so it's hard to find the solution that works best. I'm going to keep looking for what works best for me. I really appreciate the kind words on the filming. I'm not the fastest with editing, etc., so the struggle is real. ha ha.
You have a lot of commitments on here so please forgive me if I’m repeating a previous comment. I use the PackLight app. It has list associated with all the different gear list that you creat. This allows you to check off gear as you pack it. I use my check list to lay all my gear out where I can see it. I then look it over and do a mental check. Once I am satisfied, I clear my list and start packing and checking off each item as I pack it. You can still forget things using this method but less likely to. The best lesson is to do exactly what you just did. I bet you will never forget your backup power again. I enjoyed your video. Keep up the good work and best of luck to you.
😂😂 no, I certainly won’t forget my power bank again. Ha ha. I use lighter pack for adding all my items and once I figure out exactly what I’ll be carrying I’ll use that to pack. I’m working on all the little things like cords, first aid, etc. The bigger things are pretty much set. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. I’m digging the community and it’s great to get input from folks who’ve been there and done that.
I'm also a stomach sleeper. I went with the Nemo insulated tensor wide. Not as warm as your pad but I have never had a problem. If I am worried about really cold temps I will bring my gossamer gear 1/8 inch foam pad and toss it underneath. That also doubles as a great sit pad and only weighs 3oz. I love watching sir and am excited for you.
Sounds like you have a great combo that can work in multiple situations. I like the idea of the gossamer pad doubling as a sit pad. Always great to get new ideas so thank you.
We must be twins bc I just started backpacking this year and I have the Nemo Tensor wide, and the 3 Oz GG foam mat. The GG mat is mainly to keep my pad from zooming around the slippery floor of my tent lol. I also layer those with a closed foam roll from Decathalon ($15?) (7oz?) when it gets extra cold. I’d rather take all three of those than the mummy shaped (meant to buy rectangular) Thermarest X-therm I accidentally bought, since my legs are usually on the floor with that one, lol. It’s good to know that R values will stack up, and the warmth of adding more quilts add up, too.
i rarely sleep well the first night. the second night is usually much better. i've heard from thru hikers than you get used to sleeping pretty quick. I've been homeless and some of the best sleep i ever got was directly on a sidewalk in the PNW in october. you just have to get used to it.
@@TruckManThings That's what I'm hearing too. The combination of hiking and being in nature really helps you fall asleep quickly. ha ha. Thank you for sharing your story.
I never sleep well the first night lol. And I’ve backpacked for years. I take melatonin pills honestly. Never take them at home. For your pad, try the Nemo tensor insulated pad. I’m a bigger guy as well, and I think it is more comfortable than the xtherm. And it’s still at least a 4.5 r value
My kids and I hiked a few miles into a stealth tent site outside Swatara State Park on the AT and we all crunched into the big Agnes tiger wall ul3 haha. Needless to say it wasn’t awful but it wasn’t great. It did sell my kids on backpacking immediately though :) Keep on keeping on.
Very seldom did I ever get a good nights sleep on the trail, no matter how tired I was. Side sleeper and my hips just can’t take being on the ground for more than a few hours. You’ll adapt.
You are definitely on the right path. The more practice outings, the better ! We can only suggest - you have to learn what works for you: water, trekking poles, sleeping, etc. Some thoughts after watching just a few clips.... I HIGHLY recommend electrolytes. I have a 600 mL bottle that I sip from all day (new mix at lunch). Helps me to drink more water throughout the day & maintains energy levels. Frequent snacking also helps. Poles: Very helpful particularly on difficult trails (rocks, roots) and late in the day when tired. I try to conserve energy by just using my wrists, keeping elbows mostly stationary. The poles almost swing themselves. I place the tips around trail obstacles to avoid which has almost entirely eliminated tripping. They do offer more stability which has helped me look up at the scenery much more frequently. And they help with "silk blazing" (blocking early morning spider webs). Try to find practice trails with lots of elevation change (ups & downs) to better condition yourself for the AT. Does not have to be high elevation. Definitely use the outings to whittle down pack weight. Seriously consider eliminating items not used during these trips. No "I might need this" - unless it is clearly a safety item. Clothes tend to be overpacked. Water weight depends upon trail sources. Definitely have capacity for at least 3L on the AT but carrying 2L at any one time should cover most of the trail. It depends most upon what will keep you hydrated. Try sleeping on your pad periodically at home to get more used to it. Play with the inflation level - it does not always have to be fully inflated.
Thank you for all the tips! This community is awesome and so helpful. I am trying out LMNT for electrolytes. I knew I’d need something more than just water. I’m using poles now (awkward at first😂) and they’re really making a difference on my knees. Silk blazing 😂😂 Finding elevation is on my list and I need to get going on it. Winter is here in Maine. I didn’t think about the different inflation levels. I was trying to get as much padding as possible so maybe that’s why I was having a little trouble getting comfortably. Next week I start 2-3 times a week of sleeping on the pad at home. Thank you again. I truly appreciate you taking the time to share your experience and help me out. This is a daunting challenge and it’s great to get advice from experienced hikers.
@@TrackingHopper Be sure to test your rain gear. You won't stay dry during extended rain but you should stay ""mostly"" comfortable. If not, you might consider an umbrella. I try to be very careful with my down quilt. Condensation on the foot-end from the walls of my 1P tent was an issue. A hack that has worked for me was to attach small sheets of polycro to the walls using velcro tabs. Start at the bottom of the wall, up about 1 foot and across the entire foot end. Similarly along the back wall for about 2 feet starting at the foot end. Acts as a second wall and adds minimal weight. Let the sheets hang a little loose, away from the tent wall so droplets can run down the original tent wall. I can manage at the head end. Others suggest draping something (rain jacket) over the end of the bag but I want to let it breathe. Have a rag / cloth to wipe down tent walls if wet after pitching or before packing up. Helps to keep things dryer. Still expect to get damp.
@@panhandlejake6200 Awesome ideas for condensation. That's the only area I seem to have issues with is on the foot of my quilt. Not sure if I'm kicking the tent in the night or what. ha ha I just got my rain gear a week or so ago and am waiting to test it out. Rain is in the forecast for next week sometime so I want to get in some practice with that. Also bought an umbrella.
As someone already mentioned, The Nemo tensor is a great rectangular pad. However, look at weight between the two. Also, think of your start date and the R Value of your current pad. Your current pad is wonderfully insulated and well give you time to see if you can adapt to the mummy shape, especially when the fatigue of miles sets in. I hammocked but purchased the Thermarest Neo air in the Smokies and used in shelters where space can be limited, especially when weather was a factor and my reason for not hanging. You are killing it! You will only get more skilled as time goes along.
I check the weight and the nemo is still about an ounce heavier than the xtherm rectangular. So this may sound dumb, but did you have issues with a higher r-value as the temps got hot outside? Did you feel like you wanted a lower r-value pad?
@@TrackingHopper It’s not dumb at all. I never used a high R Value Pad, so I cannot directly speak to this. I have heard from some that the Extherm pad is too warm for Summer Time use. Being a Hammocker, I hadn’t planned on using a pad at all. I did carry a Goossemere Gear Pad as a way to get through the Smokies. However, after one night in the Fontana Hilton (probably worse than the night you just had), I decided to get a pad in Gatlinburg. As someone already mentioned, I paired the Neo Air with the gossamer pad, the rest of the trip; not so much for insulation, but to protect the Neo Air from possibility of punctures. It did increase my base weight, but I felt nightly sleep was way more important than daily ounces. The gossamer gear pad, also served as another cushion and support in my backpack for carrying comfort. I still carry the same set up to this day, when I go to the ground tenting or when shelters are available. I actually leave the pad but carry the gossamer gear pad for back comfort no matter what. But maybe I need to drop the ounces,lol! A lower R Value pad is a smart consideration impacted by start date and what you wish to carry the entire way versus sending home at various points. You really have to decide what works for you and go with it.
I'm so excited for you. You mentioned getting a trail rag and I felt I needed one too. I bought a Microfiber one off amazon from Wise Owl and loved the size and utility of it, but found that for extended use, especially when it was hot and I was sweating a lot, the micro fiber was a little too abrasive. I have since made my own out of marino wool and look forward to testing that out on the Roan Highlands section in March. I love your style and honesty and look forward to following along with your journey.
I ended up buying a microfiber one too and like you found it a little abrasive. My wife ended up buying me a Trail Rag from Glacier Gear that I hang off my shoulder strap. Merino wool, like, and soft. It’s awesome. alnk.to/5jhZ43N I put the other one in my cook pot and use it for drying things up/cleaning. Thank you for the kind words and support!!
Glad to see you out there. I completely understand about the sleeping pad. I was not sleeping well on my thru hike in the beginning. Some of it was comfort and some back pain. I had to change to a Nemo pad it was much more comfortable for me. But to each their own.
I had read that form some people do prefer the rectangular sleeping pads cause of just that reason. That’s why you do test hikes 🤗 your working out the kinks … your doing great! Thank you for sharing!
Trust me by your third day you will be able to sleep on the ground. You should try a multi day use of the pad before you switch. Keep on doing those overnights. Camp choirs become second nature real quick. Looking forward to your next video.
Hey Hopper! Nice video! You are doing a fine job !!! You did seem somewhat tired. You slept alot better than I know I would have. Every little , leaf russling, snapping twig, scratching in the dirt, acorn falling, would have scared me to death, and I wouldnt have to been able to get any sleep at all! The tree's were really pretty by the river. Did you meet up with any other hikers on the trail? Other than the squirrels, and chipmunks have you seen much wildlife? lol Well, you are doing good. So keep it up, and you will be ready for the big day! Take care, and tell Suzannah, and Corbin hello !!
There were only 3-4 other campers in the entire state park. It was great! No other wildlife. I’m sure when I start the AT next year I’m going to see a lot. I’ll tell them hello!
You did great! What I always do with a new gear setup is do two overnight hikes with it. After the first I write down which gear I didn't use. Same for the second round. If there are items of both of the list it means that I can live without them on the trail and I skip them from my packing list. Than you won't need them either on the AT.
Hey Hopper, Every hike you do brings you a measure of success. Even though you didn't sleep, you learned what is working and what isn't. This is preparing you for a more successful journey when you begin the AT. I didn't sleep for the first two nights of my first shakedown hike. AT ALL. I was exhausted but learned lessons 1 through 5. I'm a fitful side sleeper. I have a Nemo Tensor air mattress that is long and wide. This way my arms and feet aren't falling off the pad and it's thick enough (high enough) that I can sleep on my stomach as well. I don't know how helpful that information is for you but if it helps, then yay! You're doing a great job of preparing. Two thumbs up for your efforts!
Oh man, this makes me happy. Not that other people losing sleep and being uncomfortable makes me happy, but it's good to hear that other people are going through the same problems. ha ha I'll be moving on to my sleep pad for a few nights each week at home just to see if it's something that I can get used to or decide if I need to go with a rectangular pad. Thank you again for the support!
@@TrackingHopper Well, then this should make you ecstatic. I didn't sleep on the first night of my second shakedown hike either but it wasn't because of my sleep system. It was because we had no water and I was a little concerned; my brain just wouldn't turn off, and there was no water near us for the next 7 miles. Everyone finds their own way. It won't take any time and you'll decide to stick with what you have or go to a rectangle. For me, sleep is so important, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T SEEM TO GET ANY!, that a rectangle was a better choice for me. You're doing great! Be proud of yourself for the accomplishments you are achieving.
No water would be a stressor for sure! Thank you for the kind words. There's a part of me that just wants to get this thing started tomorrow. It's hard waiting another 4-months. ha ha
I I enjoyed your video and your humor. I had a disaster of an overnight trip. I used a hammock on the 4th of July. Just imagine fireworks, mosquitoes and humidity all rolled into one. Lol! I learned I don’t want a hammock and won’t drink coffee before bed🤪
I am a larger guy and I used the Big Agnes Q core slx pad its nice the edges are raised just a bit to keep you on the pad and it was warm the r value was 4 plus and not sure if you have one the flex tail pump is amazing for inflating and deflating pads.
Hey Hopper. Sure is pretty where you are. Seems like it was a great practice hike for you. Your pack seems a bit heavy. Be sure when you get to Neels Gap that you sit down and let one of the outfitters go through your pack to see if there are things that you don't need that you could send home. I think it's great that they offer that service. Keep on tracking and stay safe.
The pack is heavy and I'm working on cutting things out and swapping out some items for lighter ones. I know my camera gear adds quite a bit but I'm willing to take that hit. I will definitely be using the folks at Neels Gap and it's very cool that they offer that service. Thank you for the comment and being a part of my journey!
Definitely good to learn some lessons prior to starting something like that! I created a checklist on my phone, but unpacking also sounds like a good idea. In regards to the tent sheet, I actually just got the plastic that you use to cover the floor when you paint (got the thickest one at 3mil I think) at Walmart for like 3 bucks and cut it to the size of the tent. Way cheaper than spending $50+ on the tent specific ones. Granted that thing has some static so it gets dirty and holds it in 🤷♂️. And for night sleep, my first ever night was miserable, couldn’t get comfortable (side sleeper usually) and the mummy shape didn’t help things either. So I’m with ya on that! I’ve gotten used to it. Best thing was getting the right pillow for me (which ironically ended up being just a pillow case stuffed with my extra clothes).
I've switched pillows to something bigger, yet lighter, and hope that helps. It didn't even cross my mind to try a pillow case with extra clothes! That might be the next step if things don't get better. I also bought a sheet of polycryo from gossamer gear and will cut it down the next time I set the tent up. It's cheap, light, and I'd rather have to replace that then the tent. ha ha
@@TrackingHopper the pillow case saved me! Just sucks in the warmer months becaus you need to carry the extra clothes when you don’t really need them so I have another air pillow for it but it’s not as comfy. I’ve heard both sides where some ppl say you don’t need a tent footprint and others say that you do, 🤷♂️ I alway bring one b/c I think the same as you, rather that tear up then my tent! Plus I think it gives another boundary for when the ground is wet! Looking forward to hearing more of your prep work for the AT!
Hey, forgot to say ... as far as your calves, I have tight calves starting and ending every hike. I guess it's because I'm so short. I have a Rawlogy ball I used to roll out my calves at the end of a hiking day but your trekking poles will also work if you raise and lower them against your skins from the top of your calves to the bottom. If you haven't tried this, you won't believe what a difference it makes. If it hurts when you're doing it, take a bit of pressure of but still massage for several minutes. In the morning your calves shouldn't hurt at all. I hope this helps.
I just got a rawlogy ball in the mail a few days ago. I'll be using it quite a bit to combat plantar fasciitis and the calves. Again, it's good to know that other people are going through the same issues!
The trees behind you is beautiful (I love fall). Shakedowns are important! Very helpful lessons! Oh yeah….ground cloth is essential. I personally just grabbed some Tyvek (left over) from a build, and that works perfect.
Just found your Channel And subscribe hopefully I will see you in Pennsylvania as you come through in 2023 I usually do Trail magic around the 501 shelter you can check out some of the playlists for trail magic but looking forward to meeting you and following your journey take care brother I'm tracking!
Thank you for the support! I can’t wait to experience the trail magic. It’s so cool what folks do and what I’m learning is that the AT has an awesome community of hikers and supporters.
Shake down's are great for learning what one needs. I hope that you find a solution for getting sleep while hiking. Thank you for sharing. Peace and Safe Travels
Good luck on your hike. Well done vlog. If you perfect the tech and tracking devices, you’ll end up with a lot of GPX files that can be used to do some cool things on apps like Relive… just an idea for something else to explore and test before the big hike
Thank you. The tech is tricky because I'm using a few different programs. I saw a few people using Relive and it's interesting. I built an account but definitely need to play with it more while I have good internet. ha ha.
I have the narrow pad and find on my back, my arms fall off (uncomfortable). I’ve adapted to side sleeping which works ok for me most of the time. Without a bigger pillow, stomach would be hard for me. I would try the wider pad if I were you. Great fall colors! Looks like you had a great hike. I have all my gear listed on a spreadsheet and check that I have everything before I leave…habit I developed over time after forgetting too much stuff.
I bought a larger pillow (and it's lighter too) so hoping that helps. Thank you for the list idea. Should be easy since we all keep lists and have lighterpack.com ha ha
I know its heavier than your current pad but the Exped Ultra 5R is the best pad I have found and I had my best nights sleep this weekend ever on the ground and I backpack and camp a lot. Totally worth the extra ounces. I tried the NeoAir x-lite and I just could not sleep well on it. I do like my Nemo Tensor very much but I have the 3.2R version and I'm starting mid February.
I'll be starting mid/late Feb as well and want the added r-value. If I can't get used to the pad I have I'll take a look at the Ultra 5R. Good sleep is always appealing. h aha
@@audiosaurus6511 I have been testing my sleep system every time the temps dip into the teens and lower. I am able to sleep comfortably with the 3.2 in the teens with a zero degree quilt that has two ounces extra fill. So, I believe the 3.2 would be just fine with the right quilt. I just sleep better overall on the Exped and the added R value is a bonus. I also feel better about the durability of the Exped. I have had to replace my Tensor twice because of slow leaks I could not find.
I wasn’t sure. With no experience in colder weather I wanted to make sure I would be ok. Having 6.9 gives me a little peace of mind. Especially knowing I’ll be out there in some of the colder months.
Hello, the holiday season was great. We had all the kids and just relaxed. I’ve finally gotten through all of my health issues that hit me hard the past 2 months. Along with house issues I fell behind yet again. I’ve been trying to get everything done so my family does have to worry about things while I’m gone. With that said…I still haven’t filmed. I will be soon though. I promise.
Good stuff! Personally I don’t sleep well on inflatable pads, so self inflating for me. And the taller the pad the wider it needs to be (also stomach sleeper).
Not sure about your watch you have and if it was the update that screwed the battery life. I have a Garmin Epix2 and the battery on that even with amold screen lasts for days. Fenix 6/7 improves on the battery even still, but I like the bright screen more.
So it's an Apple Watch 6 and normally it lasts much longer. Both my phone and watch are doing better now. It took a few days after the major update, something with re-indexing I guess.
I know you invested in ground, but I just love my Hammock setup. I would highly think about it not that it would be easy to swap but as a 45 year old myself I can tell you I wake up like I was in a bed. Always up to talk if you would like to know how its been.
There is a small part of me that believes that if I switched over and invested in an all-new sleep system my wife would find a nice place in the yard to bury me. 😂😂 What is the total weight of your hammock setup?
@@TrackingHopper If you have the quilt the Hummingbird would be completely less than the tent cost you but you would still have to think on the tarp for cover and I highly suggest underquilt but you could delay by going the sleeping pad under instead.
That video is super sharp. I suppose that’s 4K/60 on your iPhone. FYI - I filled up my phone last year filming high resolution. I wish iPhones just had a memory card 😃
I'm filming with a Nikon Z6ii at 1080p and my GoPro Hero 10 at 4K and that's the goal for the trail as well. The iPhone 13 does great video as well so I'll use it for some things. I really wish they had memory cards too!! I had to buy an adapter so I can import/export from sd cards to/from the phone. Just one more thing to carry. ha ha
I’m enjoying your videos, good job! You can foam roll your calves, or also just massage them yourself. And your feet as well. It makes a big difference. You can find some instruction on UA-cam.
I just got a rawlogy ball to massage my feet and will be working the calves a lot to keep them loose. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment!
@@TrackingHopper you’re welcome! Yes those balls work. My wife and I are both massage therapists. Anyway, you can definitely make your legs feel a lot better by doing some self massage. But don’t be too aggressive with the calves because you can make them very sore. I’m trying to get out myself just for regular backpacking. I did it a lot when I was younger. I have been doing a lot day hiking in the years since but not backpacking. So I’m trying to get back into it now and it’s helpful to see how you are doing it.
I'm a side and stomach sleeper. I rather sleep much when camping. Hate the idea of a super huge sleeping pad but I've been considering upgrading as a worthy cause. Cuzy solution of using meds as sleep aids really shouldn't be the solution. Sadly it's so hard to know what works best for you without trying it. Go utilize the awesome return policy! Interested to see what you find that works cuz then I'll go get it.
I decided to buy a new, bigger, yet lighter pillow. I'm also going to be spending a few more nights (like 4-5) sleeping on the pad in the house to see if I can work with it. If not then it'll be headed back to REI and the rectangular one will be coming home. ha ha.
You really need to watch the video The KEY to Great Sleep Outdoors from MyLifeOutdoors hes a side sleeper and talked about similar issues to what you had!
I've watched it a few times...after I bought all my gear. ha ha He's awesome and does a great job of breaking down issues and finding solutions. I'm going to keep working with what I have for another month and if I can't get used to it I'll be switching things up.
HELLO!! I told her you said hi. It's good to hear from you! I think it's going to get better. It's hard to transition from wicked comfortable king sized bed to a tiny pad. I'll get there though.
35 pounds? Hiking up & down those mountains will go a lot better if you can cut that weight down to 25; get down to absolute need. Marines say, "Ounces add up to pounds and pounds add up to pain".
Keep messing with the sleep system. I find myself sleeping on my stomach frequently while tenting (not at home. Lol). Quilts actually make that possible.
I love the quilt I have, it's so freaking warm and allows me to move around...except the feet. For someone that moves their legs a lot it's a little confining but I always felt worse in a sleeping bag.
I have one in my amazon list. ha ha. I'm working on cutting a lot of things and whittling down cables, charges, etc., is one area I'm really working on.
Hopper your doing GREAT!!:) I have the thermarest extherm sleeping pad rectangle instead of the mummy shape it's 25 inches wide 72 inches long love it kinda heavy it's great for me . Thanks for sharing be safe you got this bud
Thank you! It's a battle of ounces now and I'm really debating on the rectangle or keeping the mummy. We have guests this week but after they leave I'm moving to the living room for a few nights and sleeping on the pad. If I can't get comfortable after another 4-5 nights then I'll need to bite the bullet and go rectangle. I really appreciate the support!!
@@TrackingHopper You're so welcome. I can only say...this is what someone told me. If you're pack weighs between 30 and 35 lbs., then why are you worried about an additional few ounces for a rectangular bag that will insure better sleep, since sleep is so important. i kind of thought, well, huh. I'm not sure I know how to provide a legitimate argument on why I shouldn't. So, there you go! ;-) Take good care!
That's a good point but right now I'm in a battle to shave ounces. ha ha. I'm hoping I can get used to sleeping on the mummy style pad but if I can't then I'll have to move up to the rectangle. You can't go months without good sleep. Thank you!
Stick with it sir! I came across your channel right after you posted your first video and immediately subscribed. I, too, was a 40+, out of shape, overweight, beginner backpacker not too long ago. I enjoyed it as a teen and in my 20's but life got in the way. I grew up in the foothills of the Smokies and those mountains were the backdrop to my childhood. But I got out of shape and lost the love I once had for the outdoors.
Fast forward to 2016 and I decided to get in shape. I dropped 80 pounds through hard work and dedication (motivation wears off quickly). Then my father passed away in February of this year and something about that made me long for seclusion in the mountains.
I just returned from a multi-day excursion in the Smokies with some church friends. It was 30+ miles over 3 days/2 nights. I learned that I might be in much better shape now, but still not great backpacking shape. The AT remains on my bucket list for when I take early retirement from my job.
One recommendation I have is to test out all the sleep system components in your back yard before heading out. I've done this myself. This way you can narrow down the problem items. Is it the pad, is the bag, maybe you're used to a pillow, etc. I ended up having to swap my bag and pillow out in order to get a good night of sleep. And now I find that I sleep like a baby in the outdoors!
Also, remember that in the Smokies you're *supposed* to sleep in the shelters (though not everyone does).
I’m sorry to hear about your Dad. Thank you for sharing your story!
I’m really testing the sleep system because I had some issues on my first overnight. Going to keep working to get the kinks ironed out.
I hope you’re able to get on the AT and keep hiking!
Remember that the colder the outside temperature is compared to the inside of the bag or the quilt, condensation could occur. I’ve had this happen a few times this past fall while out in temperatures almost at freezing.
True. I’ve heard from a few folks that either added a layer of plastic to the inside of their tents above the feet to protect against kicking in the middle of the night. They added some Velcro tabs and a small sheet of polycro.
I stopped using sleeping bags 25 years ago. I use a quilt and there's no way I could ever go back to a bag again due to its restrictive properties, rectangular or mummy. Keep plugging along! You'll get it and when you do, you'll get your thru in no time. Check out the Big Agnes sleep pads, long wide and thick as well as several other brands. Get a good R value as well. Those mummy pads actually suck, but that's just my opinion on that style pad :). Please, don't dump the grounds of the compostable coffee set up away on the ground. It's an attractant to bears. Leave no trace, please ;)
The R value and comfort of my pad is great, it's just been the width but I'm getting more comfortable with it. Going to keep using it at home for a few more weeks to see if I need to change or not. My Enlightened Equipment quilt is awesome and the reason I went quilt is I don't really like sleeping bags either. Very constricting. Oh, good info on the coffee grounds!!!
Great video! I’m almost 50 and just started backpacking this year so I’m learning so much and can relate to your sleep pad questions. I’m a side sleeper that will toss and turn so I did a bunch of research and decided on the Nemo Tensor insulated sleep pad, rectangle 25 inches wide, and I love it. Then one night I froze my butt off for a few reasons and decided to buy a warmer pad except it’s an extra wide Mummy shape (accidentally bought mummy, thinking the “extra wide” would be a rectangle.)Realized my first suspicions were true, mummy pads are not good for my sleep! My feet spend more time off the pad than on, lol. Thanks for documenting your journey. We all experience similar challenges when we start out, but it’s cool that some folks like you are talented and patient with your camera and filming, you’re doing a great service for us who are not so inclined ;)
Thank you for sharing your story. I think sleep systems are the one area that doesn't really get enough attention and everyone has different needs so it's hard to find the solution that works best. I'm going to keep looking for what works best for me. I really appreciate the kind words on the filming. I'm not the fastest with editing, etc., so the struggle is real. ha ha.
You have a lot of commitments on here so please forgive me if I’m repeating a previous comment. I use the PackLight app. It has list associated with all the different gear list that you creat. This allows you to check off gear as you pack it. I use my check list to lay all my gear out where I can see it. I then look it over and do a mental check. Once I am satisfied, I clear my list and start packing and checking off each item as I pack it. You can still forget things using this method but less likely to. The best lesson is to do exactly what you just did. I bet you will never forget your backup power again. I enjoyed your video. Keep up the good work and best of luck to you.
😂😂 no, I certainly won’t forget my power bank again. Ha ha.
I use lighter pack for adding all my items and once I figure out exactly what I’ll be carrying I’ll use that to pack. I’m working on all the little things like cords, first aid, etc. The bigger things are pretty much set.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. I’m digging the community and it’s great to get input from folks who’ve been there and done that.
I'm also a stomach sleeper. I went with the Nemo insulated tensor wide. Not as warm as your pad but I have never had a problem. If I am worried about really cold temps I will bring my gossamer gear 1/8 inch foam pad and toss it underneath. That also doubles as a great sit pad and only weighs 3oz. I love watching sir and am excited for you.
That is a great piece of gear I got to get 1 so I don't sled around in my tent .
Sounds like you have a great combo that can work in multiple situations. I like the idea of the gossamer pad doubling as a sit pad. Always great to get new ideas so thank you.
We must be twins bc I just started backpacking this year and I have the Nemo Tensor wide, and the 3 Oz GG foam mat. The GG mat is mainly to keep my pad from zooming around the slippery floor of my tent lol. I also layer those with a closed foam roll from Decathalon ($15?) (7oz?) when it gets extra cold. I’d rather take all three of those than the mummy shaped (meant to buy rectangular) Thermarest X-therm I accidentally bought, since my legs are usually on the floor with that one, lol. It’s good to know that R values will stack up, and the warmth of adding more quilts add up, too.
Good trip, your trip is a good learning experience and that's why we do it.We all forget something once in a while.Have a good time. Blackritz
Thank you!
Great video, Hopper. Keep putting your gear to the test. You'll find what works best for you. We are looking forward to following your journey.
Thank you, I appreciate it!
What was your first overnight hike like? Did you end up having a horrible night of sleep and finding out that you didn't pack everything you needed?
i rarely sleep well the first night. the second night is usually much better.
i've heard from thru hikers than you get used to sleeping pretty quick.
I've been homeless and some of the best sleep i ever got was directly on a sidewalk in the PNW in october.
you just have to get used to it.
@@TruckManThings That's what I'm hearing too. The combination of hiking and being in nature really helps you fall asleep quickly. ha ha. Thank you for sharing your story.
I never sleep well the first night lol. And I’ve backpacked for years. I take melatonin pills honestly. Never take them at home. For your pad, try the Nemo tensor insulated pad. I’m a bigger guy as well, and I think it is more comfortable than the xtherm. And it’s still at least a 4.5 r value
My kids and I hiked a few miles into a stealth tent site outside Swatara State Park on the AT and we all crunched into the big Agnes tiger wall ul3 haha. Needless to say it wasn’t awful but it wasn’t great. It did sell my kids on backpacking immediately though :)
Keep on keeping on.
Very seldom did I ever get a good nights sleep on the trail, no matter how tired I was. Side sleeper and my hips just can’t take being on the ground for more than a few hours. You’ll adapt.
You are definitely on the right path. The more practice outings, the better ! We can only suggest - you have to learn what works for you: water, trekking poles, sleeping, etc.
Some thoughts after watching just a few clips.... I HIGHLY recommend electrolytes. I have a 600 mL bottle that I sip from all day (new mix at lunch). Helps me to drink more water throughout the day & maintains energy levels. Frequent snacking also helps.
Poles: Very helpful particularly on difficult trails (rocks, roots) and late in the day when tired. I try to conserve energy by just using my wrists, keeping elbows mostly stationary. The poles almost swing themselves. I place the tips around trail obstacles to avoid which has almost entirely eliminated tripping. They do offer more stability which has helped me look up at the scenery much more frequently. And they help with "silk blazing" (blocking early morning spider webs).
Try to find practice trails with lots of elevation change (ups & downs) to better condition yourself for the AT. Does not have to be high elevation.
Definitely use the outings to whittle down pack weight. Seriously consider eliminating items not used during these trips. No "I might need this" - unless it is clearly a safety item. Clothes tend to be overpacked.
Water weight depends upon trail sources. Definitely have capacity for at least 3L on the AT but carrying 2L at any one time should cover most of the trail. It depends most upon what will keep you hydrated.
Try sleeping on your pad periodically at home to get more used to it. Play with the inflation level - it does not always have to be fully inflated.
Thank you for all the tips! This community is awesome and so helpful.
I am trying out LMNT for electrolytes. I knew I’d need something more than just water. I’m using poles now (awkward at first😂) and they’re really making a difference on my knees.
Silk blazing 😂😂
Finding elevation is on my list and I need to get going on it. Winter is here in Maine.
I didn’t think about the different inflation levels. I was trying to get as much padding as possible so maybe that’s why I was having a little trouble getting comfortably. Next week I start 2-3 times a week of sleeping on the pad at home.
Thank you again. I truly appreciate you taking the time to share your experience and help me out. This is a daunting challenge and it’s great to get advice from experienced hikers.
@@TrackingHopper Be sure to test your rain gear. You won't stay dry during extended rain but you should stay ""mostly"" comfortable. If not, you might consider an umbrella.
I try to be very careful with my down quilt. Condensation on the foot-end from the walls of my 1P tent was an issue. A hack that has worked for me was to attach small sheets of polycro to the walls using velcro tabs. Start at the bottom of the wall, up about 1 foot and across the entire foot end. Similarly along the back wall for about 2 feet starting at the foot end. Acts as a second wall and adds minimal weight. Let the sheets hang a little loose, away from the tent wall so droplets can run down the original tent wall. I can manage at the head end. Others suggest draping something (rain jacket) over the end of the bag but I want to let it breathe.
Have a rag / cloth to wipe down tent walls if wet after pitching or before packing up. Helps to keep things dryer.
Still expect to get damp.
@@panhandlejake6200 Awesome ideas for condensation. That's the only area I seem to have issues with is on the foot of my quilt. Not sure if I'm kicking the tent in the night or what. ha ha
I just got my rain gear a week or so ago and am waiting to test it out. Rain is in the forecast for next week sometime so I want to get in some practice with that. Also bought an umbrella.
As someone already mentioned, The Nemo tensor is a great rectangular pad. However, look at weight between the two. Also, think of your start date and the R Value of your current pad. Your current pad is wonderfully insulated and well give you time to see if you can adapt to the mummy shape, especially when the fatigue of miles sets in. I hammocked but purchased the Thermarest Neo air in the Smokies and used in shelters where space can be limited, especially when weather was a factor and my reason for not hanging. You are killing it! You will only get more skilled as time goes along.
I check the weight and the nemo is still about an ounce heavier than the xtherm rectangular.
So this may sound dumb, but did you have issues with a higher r-value as the temps got hot outside? Did you feel like you wanted a lower r-value pad?
@@TrackingHopper It’s not dumb at all. I never used a high R Value Pad, so I cannot directly speak to this. I have heard from some that the Extherm pad is too warm for Summer Time use. Being a Hammocker, I hadn’t planned on using a pad at all. I did carry a Goossemere Gear Pad as a way to get through the Smokies. However, after one night in the Fontana Hilton (probably worse than the night you just had), I decided to get a pad in Gatlinburg. As someone already mentioned, I paired the Neo Air with the gossamer pad, the rest of the trip; not so much for insulation, but to protect the Neo Air from possibility of punctures. It did increase my base weight, but I felt nightly sleep was way more important than daily ounces. The gossamer gear pad, also served as another cushion and support in my backpack for carrying comfort. I still carry the same set up to this day, when I go to the ground tenting or when shelters are available. I actually leave the pad but carry the gossamer gear pad for back comfort no matter what. But maybe I need to drop the ounces,lol! A lower R Value pad is a smart consideration impacted by start date and what you wish to carry the entire way versus sending home at various points. You really have to decide what works for you and go with it.
@@gboltonatrail1099 great insight, thank you. I have a feeling the pad will get switched out as things get warmer but I won't know until I know. ha ha
I'm so excited for you. You mentioned getting a trail rag and I felt I needed one too. I bought a Microfiber one off amazon from Wise Owl and loved the size and utility of it, but found that for extended use, especially when it was hot and I was sweating a lot, the micro fiber was a little too abrasive. I have since made my own out of marino wool and look forward to testing that out on the Roan Highlands section in March. I love your style and honesty and look forward to following along with your journey.
I ended up buying a microfiber one too and like you found it a little abrasive. My wife ended up buying me a Trail Rag from Glacier Gear that I hang off my shoulder strap. Merino wool, like, and soft. It’s awesome. alnk.to/5jhZ43N
I put the other one in my cook pot and use it for drying things up/cleaning.
Thank you for the kind words and support!!
Clever gear, sorry you had a bad sleep! I am sure it will get better
I sure hope so!
Gorgeous views!!! Practice runs make for a perfect execution when it’s go time! Keep up the great work. Thanks for sharing your journey.
That State park is awesome in the fall, makes me want to go back and camp again next year.
Glad to see you out there.
I completely understand about the sleeping pad. I was not sleeping well on my thru hike in the beginning. Some of it was comfort and some back pain.
I had to change to a Nemo pad it was much more comfortable for me. But to each their own.
I actually just ordered the newest NeoAir Xtherm NXT Max. It’s .5” taller, has a 7.4 r-value, and is rectangular so I’m hoping it helps.
That music was everything!😊
thank you!
I had read that form some people do prefer the rectangular sleeping pads cause of just that reason. That’s why you do test hikes 🤗 your working out the kinks … your doing great! Thank you for sharing!
I’m going to keep the mummy for now but if I can’t get used to it over the next month I’m going rectangle. Thank you!
Trust me by your third day you will be able to sleep on the ground. You should try a multi day use of the pad before you switch. Keep on doing those overnights. Camp choirs become second nature real quick.
Looking forward to your next video.
That’s what I’ve heard. I’ll be able to sleep anywhere after a few days. 😂
Hey Hopper! Nice video! You are doing a fine job !!! You did seem somewhat tired. You slept alot better than I know I would have. Every little , leaf russling, snapping twig, scratching in the dirt, acorn falling, would have scared me to death, and I wouldnt have to been able to get any sleep at all! The tree's were really pretty by the river. Did you meet up with any other hikers on the trail? Other than the squirrels, and chipmunks have you seen much wildlife? lol Well, you are doing good. So keep it up, and you will be ready for the big day! Take care, and tell Suzannah, and Corbin hello !!
There were only 3-4 other campers in the entire state park. It was great! No other wildlife. I’m sure when I start the AT next year I’m going to see a lot.
I’ll tell them hello!
Doing great! One day at a time. Keep hiking.
Thank you!
You did great!
What I always do with a new gear setup is do two overnight hikes with it. After the first I write down which gear I didn't use. Same for the second round. If there are items of both of the list it means that I can live without them on the trail and I skip them from my packing list. Than you won't need them either on the AT.
I love that idea. Thank you for sharing!!
Hey Hopper, Every hike you do brings you a measure of success. Even though you didn't sleep, you learned what is working and what isn't. This is preparing you for a more successful journey when you begin the AT. I didn't sleep for the first two nights of my first shakedown hike. AT ALL. I was exhausted but learned lessons 1 through 5. I'm a fitful side sleeper. I have a Nemo Tensor air mattress that is long and wide. This way my arms and feet aren't falling off the pad and it's thick enough (high enough) that I can sleep on my stomach as well. I don't know how helpful that information is for you but if it helps, then yay! You're doing a great job of preparing. Two thumbs up for your efforts!
Oh man, this makes me happy. Not that other people losing sleep and being uncomfortable makes me happy, but it's good to hear that other people are going through the same problems. ha ha
I'll be moving on to my sleep pad for a few nights each week at home just to see if it's something that I can get used to or decide if I need to go with a rectangular pad. Thank you again for the support!
@@TrackingHopper Well, then this should make you ecstatic. I didn't sleep on the first night of my second shakedown hike either but it wasn't because of my sleep system. It was because we had no water and I was a little concerned; my brain just wouldn't turn off, and there was no water near us for the next 7 miles. Everyone finds their own way. It won't take any time and you'll decide to stick with what you have or go to a rectangle. For me, sleep is so important, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T SEEM TO GET ANY!, that a rectangle was a better choice for me. You're doing great! Be proud of yourself for the accomplishments you are achieving.
No water would be a stressor for sure! Thank you for the kind words. There's a part of me that just wants to get this thing started tomorrow. It's hard waiting another 4-months. ha ha
@@TrackingHopper Funny! I just said those exact same words to my husband three days ago!!
I I enjoyed your video and your humor. I had a disaster of an overnight trip. I used a hammock on the 4th of July. Just imagine fireworks, mosquitoes and humidity all rolled into one. Lol! I learned I don’t want a hammock and won’t drink coffee before bed🤪
Wow!!! That sounds like a recipe for disaster and a good story. Ha ha.
Great shake down hike. Look forward to your journey.
Thank you!
I am a larger guy and I used the Big Agnes Q core slx pad its nice the edges are raised just a bit to keep you on the pad and it was warm the r value was 4 plus and not sure if you have one the flex tail pump is amazing for inflating and deflating pads.
I have the flex tail pump but took it out of the bag. I’m trying to cut ounces and that was 4 that I didn’t really need. It is a nicety though!
lol...dont worry you will be so tired from hiking all day long....sleep will not be a problem. GUARANTEED! Duo AT18
That's what I'm thinking too. Hike yourself to exhaustion and you can sleep anywhere. 😂😂
Hey Hopper. Sure is pretty where you are. Seems like it was a great practice hike for you. Your pack seems a bit heavy. Be sure when you get to Neels Gap that you sit down and let one of the outfitters go through your pack to see if there are things that you don't need that you could send home. I think it's great that they offer that service. Keep on tracking and stay safe.
The pack is heavy and I'm working on cutting things out and swapping out some items for lighter ones. I know my camera gear adds quite a bit but I'm willing to take that hit.
I will definitely be using the folks at Neels Gap and it's very cool that they offer that service. Thank you for the comment and being a part of my journey!
Enjoyable video!
thank you!
Great videos, been following
Awesome, thank you!
If you pair that Garmin to your phone you’ll love it so much more.
Best of luck on your AT hike!
I have it paired now and it’s much easier. Thank you!
Definitely good to learn some lessons prior to starting something like that! I created a checklist on my phone, but unpacking also sounds like a good idea. In regards to the tent sheet, I actually just got the plastic that you use to cover the floor when you paint (got the thickest one at 3mil I think) at Walmart for like 3 bucks and cut it to the size of the tent. Way cheaper than spending $50+ on the tent specific ones. Granted that thing has some static so it gets dirty and holds it in 🤷♂️.
And for night sleep, my first ever night was miserable, couldn’t get comfortable (side sleeper usually) and the mummy shape didn’t help things either. So I’m with ya on that! I’ve gotten used to it. Best thing was getting the right pillow for me (which ironically ended up being just a pillow case stuffed with my extra clothes).
I've switched pillows to something bigger, yet lighter, and hope that helps. It didn't even cross my mind to try a pillow case with extra clothes! That might be the next step if things don't get better.
I also bought a sheet of polycryo from gossamer gear and will cut it down the next time I set the tent up. It's cheap, light, and I'd rather have to replace that then the tent. ha ha
@@TrackingHopper the pillow case saved me! Just sucks in the warmer months becaus you need to carry the extra clothes when you don’t really need them so I have another air pillow for it but it’s not as comfy.
I’ve heard both sides where some ppl say you don’t need a tent footprint and others say that you do, 🤷♂️ I alway bring one b/c I think the same as you, rather that tear up then my tent! Plus I think it gives another boundary for when the ground is wet!
Looking forward to hearing more of your prep work for the AT!
Hey, forgot to say ... as far as your calves, I have tight calves starting and ending every hike. I guess it's because I'm so short. I have a Rawlogy ball I used to roll out my calves at the end of a hiking day but your trekking poles will also work if you raise and lower them against your skins from the top of your calves to the bottom. If you haven't tried this, you won't believe what a difference it makes. If it hurts when you're doing it, take a bit of pressure of but still massage for several minutes. In the morning your calves shouldn't hurt at all. I hope this helps.
I just got a rawlogy ball in the mail a few days ago. I'll be using it quite a bit to combat plantar fasciitis and the calves. Again, it's good to know that other people are going through the same issues!
Don’t get too used to that nice picnic table. That will be a rarity.
😂😂 I knew it was a luxury that I won’t see very often.
The trees behind you is beautiful (I love fall). Shakedowns are important! Very helpful lessons! Oh yeah….ground cloth is essential. I personally just grabbed some Tyvek (left over) from a build, and that works perfect.
I just got a sheet of polycro from Gossamer Gear and will be trying that out the next time I get out there. Definitely a must!
I’ve seen some good food dehydration videos which made food weight, and spice carrying easier. Might take a look.
We’ve watched a few. I’m trying to talk my sister in to using her $$$ dehydrator into sending some meals. 😂
Just found your Channel And subscribe hopefully I will see you in Pennsylvania as you come through in 2023 I usually do Trail magic around the 501 shelter you can check out some of the playlists for trail magic but looking forward to meeting you and following your journey take care brother I'm tracking!
Thank you for the support! I can’t wait to experience the trail magic. It’s so cool what folks do and what I’m learning is that the AT has an awesome community of hikers and supporters.
Shake down's are great for learning what one needs. I hope that you find a solution for getting sleep while hiking. Thank you for sharing. Peace and Safe Travels
I think regardless of what I go with sooner or later I'll get so exhausted that I'll get sleep. ha ha
Good luck on your hike. Well done vlog. If you perfect the tech and tracking devices, you’ll end up with a lot of GPX files that can be used to do some cool things on apps like Relive… just an idea for something else to explore and test before the big hike
Thank you. The tech is tricky because I'm using a few different programs. I saw a few people using Relive and it's interesting. I built an account but definitely need to play with it more while I have good internet. ha ha.
I have the narrow pad and find on my back, my arms fall off (uncomfortable). I’ve adapted to side sleeping which works ok for me most of the time. Without a bigger pillow, stomach would be hard for me. I would try the wider pad if I were you. Great fall colors! Looks like you had a great hike. I have all my gear listed on a spreadsheet and check that I have everything before I leave…habit I developed over time after forgetting too much stuff.
I bought a larger pillow (and it's lighter too) so hoping that helps. Thank you for the list idea. Should be easy since we all keep lists and have lighterpack.com ha ha
I know its heavier than your current pad but the Exped Ultra 5R is the best pad I have found and I had my best nights sleep this weekend ever on the ground and I backpack and camp a lot. Totally worth the extra ounces. I tried the NeoAir x-lite and I just could not sleep well on it. I do like my Nemo Tensor very much but I have the 3.2R version and I'm starting mid February.
I'll be starting mid/late Feb as well and want the added r-value. If I can't get used to the pad I have I'll take a look at the Ultra 5R. Good sleep is always appealing. h aha
You think the 3.2R is not enough for february?
@@audiosaurus6511 I have been testing my sleep system every time the temps dip into the teens and lower. I am able to sleep comfortably with the 3.2 in the teens with a zero degree quilt that has two ounces extra fill. So, I believe the 3.2 would be just fine with the right quilt. I just sleep better overall on the Exped and the added R value is a bonus. I also feel better about the durability of the Exped. I have had to replace my Tensor twice because of slow leaks I could not find.
I wasn’t sure. With no experience in colder weather I wanted to make sure I would be ok. Having 6.9 gives me a little peace of mind. Especially knowing I’ll be out there in some of the colder months.
Hey buddy, been a month now. Hope the holiday season has been good to you and we see more videos soon 😊
Hello, the holiday season was great. We had all the kids and just relaxed. I’ve finally gotten through all of my health issues that hit me hard the past 2 months. Along with house issues I fell behind yet again. I’ve been trying to get everything done so my family does have to worry about things while I’m gone. With that said…I still haven’t filmed. I will be soon though. I promise.
@@TrackingHopper good to hear mate. I’ll look forward to it. Good luck for 2023. 👍
Enjoyed your video. Will now go back and watch Part 1.
That’s great to hear, thank you!
Good stuff! Personally I don’t sleep well on inflatable pads, so self inflating for me. And the taller the pad the wider it needs to be (also stomach sleeper).
I think I need a Sherpa to carry a king sized air mattress for me. 😂😂
@@TrackingHopper 0lbs base weight with a sherpa, so thats really ultra light!
😂😂
It could be a whole new trend of Uber Ultra Light
HI Chris, What is your start date? My AT hike starts 2/21/23. See you out there.
I’m heading out mid to late Feb (not putting exact date out there). Shoot me a message at trackinghopper@gmail.com and I can give you the date.
Make a checklist - that way you remember to pack the same thing every time you go out.
I have the LighterPack.com site and have everything listed. I didn’t have it complete when I went for that hike and paid for it. Ha ha.
Not sure about your watch you have and if it was the update that screwed the battery life.
I have a Garmin Epix2 and the battery on that even with amold screen lasts for days.
Fenix 6/7 improves on the battery even still, but I like the bright screen more.
So it's an Apple Watch 6 and normally it lasts much longer. Both my phone and watch are doing better now. It took a few days after the major update, something with re-indexing I guess.
I know you invested in ground, but I just love my Hammock setup. I would highly think about it not that it would be easy to swap but as a 45 year old myself I can tell you I wake up like I was in a bed. Always up to talk if you would like to know how its been.
There is a small part of me that believes that if I switched over and invested in an all-new sleep system my wife would find a nice place in the yard to bury me. 😂😂
What is the total weight of your hammock setup?
@@TrackingHopper If you have the quilt the Hummingbird would be completely less than the tent cost you but you would still have to think on the tarp for cover and I highly suggest underquilt but you could delay by going the sleeping pad under instead.
That video is super sharp. I suppose that’s 4K/60 on your iPhone. FYI - I filled up my phone last year filming high resolution. I wish iPhones just had a memory card 😃
I'm filming with a Nikon Z6ii at 1080p and my GoPro Hero 10 at 4K and that's the goal for the trail as well. The iPhone 13 does great video as well so I'll use it for some things. I really wish they had memory cards too!! I had to buy an adapter so I can import/export from sd cards to/from the phone. Just one more thing to carry. ha ha
I’m enjoying your videos, good job! You can foam roll your calves, or also just massage them yourself. And your feet as well. It makes a big difference. You can find some instruction on UA-cam.
I just got a rawlogy ball to massage my feet and will be working the calves a lot to keep them loose. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment!
@@TrackingHopper you’re welcome! Yes those balls work. My wife and I are both massage therapists. Anyway, you can definitely make your legs feel a lot better by doing some self massage. But don’t be too aggressive with the calves because you can make them very sore.
I’m trying to get out myself just for regular backpacking. I did it a lot when I was younger. I have been doing a lot day hiking in the years since but not backpacking. So I’m trying to get back into it now and it’s helpful to see how you are doing it.
I'm a side and stomach sleeper. I rather sleep much when camping. Hate the idea of a super huge sleeping pad but I've been considering upgrading as a worthy cause. Cuzy solution of using meds as sleep aids really shouldn't be the solution. Sadly it's so hard to know what works best for you without trying it. Go utilize the awesome return policy! Interested to see what you find that works cuz then I'll go get it.
I decided to buy a new, bigger, yet lighter pillow. I'm also going to be spending a few more nights (like 4-5) sleeping on the pad in the house to see if I can work with it. If not then it'll be headed back to REI and the rectangular one will be coming home. ha ha.
Hacking tropper. Keep on hiking!
Thank you!
You really need to watch the video The KEY to Great Sleep Outdoors from MyLifeOutdoors hes a side sleeper and talked about similar issues to what you had!
I've watched it a few times...after I bought all my gear. ha ha He's awesome and does a great job of breaking down issues and finding solutions. I'm going to keep working with what I have for another month and if I can't get used to it I'll be switching things up.
Hey!! Tell your wife I said hi (Nita). I always sleep rough on the first night. Better on the second.
HELLO!! I told her you said hi. It's good to hear from you! I think it's going to get better. It's hard to transition from wicked comfortable king sized bed to a tiny pad. I'll get there though.
35 pounds? Hiking up & down those mountains will go a lot better if you can cut that weight down to 25; get down to absolute need. Marines say, "Ounces add up to pounds and pounds add up to pain".
I’m working on cutting weight. Getting rid of things I truly don’t need and swapping out for some lighter items.
Keep messing with the sleep system. I find myself sleeping on my stomach frequently while tenting (not at home. Lol). Quilts actually make that possible.
I love the quilt I have, it's so freaking warm and allows me to move around...except the feet. For someone that moves their legs a lot it's a little confining but I always felt worse in a sleeping bag.
Get a Shamwow towel, you will not regret it. Drop unneeded electronics.
I have one in my amazon list. ha ha. I'm working on cutting a lot of things and whittling down cables, charges, etc., is one area I'm really working on.