Is RDNA3 REALLY faster than RDNA2?! Gaming & Productivity Benchmarks
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Hello Dear Viewers :D
Today, I am happily bringing (after a painful process) one of the recently requesting videos testing RDNA2 vs RDNA3 cards to see if RDNA3 is REALLY faster than RDNA2 at the same frequency.
00:00 - Intro (RDNA2 vs RDNA3 Specs)
02:55 - RX 6950XT vs 7900GRE - Avatar: Frontier of Pandora
03:24 - RX 6950XT vs 7900GRE - Lies of P
03:47 - RX 6950XT vs 7900GRE - Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden
04:15 - RX 6950XT vs 7900GRE - Cyberpunk 2077
04:43 - RX 6950XT vs 7900GRE - Dragon's Dogma 2
05:17 - RX 6950XT vs 7900GRE - Starfield
05:38 - RX 6950XT vs 7900GRE - Horizon Forbidden West
06:16 - RX 6950XT vs 7900GRE - Alan Wake 2
06:51 - RX 6950XT vs 7900GRE - Last Epoch
07:26 - RX 6950XT vs 7900GRE - COD: Modern Warfare 2
07:57 - RX 6950XT vs 7900GRE - Resident Evil 4
08:23 - RX 6950XT vs 7900GRE - PUBG Battlegrounds
08:53 - RX 6950XT vs 7900GRE - Fortnite
09:21 - RX 6950XT vs 7900GRE - 13 Games Average
10:06 - RX 6950XT vs 7900GRE - Blender
10:44 - RX 6950XT vs 7900GRE - Cinebench R24
11:19 - RX 6950XT vs 7900GRE - Premiere (Puget)
11:37 - RX 6950XT vs 7900GRE - Stable Diffusion 2.1 (Shark AI)
12:11 - RX 6800 vs 7800XT - Specs
13:20 - RX 6800 vs 7800XT - Starfield
13:56 - RX 6800 vs 7800XT - Last Epoch
14:15 - RX 6800 vs 7800XT - Resident Evil 4
14:39 - RX 6800 vs 7800XT - PUBG Battlegrounds
15:01 - RX 6800 vs 7800XT - Fortnite
15:26 - RX 6800 vs 7800XT - Cinebench R24
15:55 - RX 6800 vs 7800XT - Stable Diffusion 2.1 (Shark AI)
16:31 - RX 6650XT vs 7600 - Specs
17:38 - RX 6650XT vs 7600 - Avatar: Frontier of Pandora
18:14 - RX 6650XT vs 7600 - Last Epoch
18:52 - RX 6650XT vs 7600 - PUBG Battlegrounds
19:20 - RX 6650XT vs 7600 - Fortnite
20:07 - RX 6650XT vs 7600 - Stable Diffusion 2.1 (Shark AI)
20:41 - Final Thoughts (IPC, Power Draw, FPS, etc.)
26:46 - Channel Members
27:07 - More Videos
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AMD AM4 PC USED for CPU testing:
CPU Cooler: Mars Gaming ML360
MB: Asus X570 Strix-F
RAM: 2 x 8GB - Patriot Viper 4400Mhz CL19 (3600MHz CL16)
SSD (Nvme): 500GB + 1TB
PSU: BitFenix Whisper 650W+ Gold
CASE: Bitfenix Nova Mesh SE TG
INTEL 10/11th Gen PC USED for CPU testing:
CPU Cooler: Artic Freezer Penta 33
MB: MSI Z490 Tomahawk
RAM: 2 x 8GB - Patriot Viper 4400Mhz CL19 (3200 MHz CL14)
SSD: Kingston V300 120Gb
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2Tb 7200 rpm
PSU: Seasonic SIII 650W Bronze
CASE: Aerocool One Frost Edition
INTEL 12th Gen PC USED for CPU testing:
CPU Cooler: Mars Gaming ML360
MB: Gigabyte Z690 Aorus ELITE (DDR4)
RAM: 2 x 8GB - Patriot Viper 4400Mhz CL19 (3600 MHz CL16)
SSD: 240GB
SSD (Nvme): 500GB
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 rpm
PSU: Aerocool X-Strike 800W 80+ Silver Semi Modular
CASE: Phanteks P400A White
AMD AM5 PC USED for CPU testing:
CPU Cooler: Enermax Aquafusion 360
MB: Asrock B650E Taichi
RAM: 2 x 16GB - Flare X5 6000MHz CL32 (6000 MHz CL30)
SSD (Nvme): 1TB
PSU: Enermax Revolution D.F.X 1050W (80+ Gold)
CASE: Enermax StarryKnight SK30
My Main PC (used for GPU testing):
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X (5.4GHz Static Overclock)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S
MB: MSI X670E Carbon Wifi
RAM: 2 x 16GB - Flare X5 6000MHz CL32 (6000 MHz CL30)
SSD (Nvme): 500GB + 2TB + 2TB + 4TB
PSU: Corsair RM750X (White) 750W 80+ Gold
CASE: Thermaltake View 51 TG
#AMDDrivers #fsr3 #ancientgameplays - Наука та технологія
nu-uh, you will not trigger my buyers remorse for going 6950xt!
😂💪
I mean i bought a rx 6600 during the covid area for $600 cad... dont have buyers remose lol
@@georgepierre3594you should
You shouldn’t since you either prolly enjoyed it since launch or bought used for cheaper than the 7900 gre…
I dont't have any buyers remorse for my 6900xt limited black for $669 in 2022
RDNA3 doubles the compute throughput per CU, but the shader code have to be either compiled or manually set properly to take full advantage of the double wide vector ALUs. The straightforward way is to set the batch execution mode to wave64. Some games and apps default to single wave32 mode that leaves half of the compute resources underutilized. The most efficient execution mode for RDNA3 is dual-issue wave32, but it requires manual tuning of the code and still imposes some hardware restrictions. AMD made a lot of compromises with RDNA3 simply to get maximum performance out of as little silicon space as possible, resulting in more or less an iterative generational upgrade. This is pretty much evident in the RT benchmarks -- very little targeted investment for accelerating RT performance, where the little improvements come mostly from brute force upgrades: more and faster cache and CUs. The situation with AI inference acceleration is a bit better, but software support is still lacking in this department. RDNA3 definitely works harder, but not very smarter.
Exactly, that's why newer engines are working better with these cards. As for the shaders the engine needs to be ready or they need to "manually" set them/force them via drivers
It's very annoying how this has to work, 7900XTX could be so much better if it actually worked 100%, but I'm still impressed with it at 1440p
I still don't get what's the problem with the 7900GRE and its AI cores.
It feels like this video took YEARS to make haha, hope you enjoy it and can leave your like to support the channel!
Cheers!
Top quality video as always!! Keep up the good work brother!! 👍🏽👍🏽
@@BlazeBullet Thank you my friend!
Always gonna drop at least a thumbs up when I see fabio upload 🎉
My favorite thing about the 7900 gre is when I select new game on fallout 3 it crashes
Aren't some of these games likely cpu limited at 1440p?
this is the best AMD GPU explanation channel in youtube.
still super happy with my 5800x3d + xfx 6950xt
same combo here
Sameeeeeee. Also Xfx too.👍🏻
@@luismanuelmunozgonzalez9566 yep xfx speedster merc such a good card
Fabio you're becoming so detailed it's awesome. Keep up the good work man. Thanks for taking the time to do this one. I appreciate the comparisons.
Thank you!
Finally! I'm surprised we don't have many videos on this topic (unless I've completely missed them lol)
I believe some people did them, its nothing new, but still not vastly explored
@@AncientGameplays Definitely not vastly explored, and thank you for adding productivity benchmarks as well! This video has released at a great time with RDNA 4 coming this year, so it sets expectations
@@NootNoot. I am now preparing to deliver productivity benchmarks in all my future GPU videos haha
The generations are so different that comparison is hard or impossible…
There are some really killer deals right now for RNDA GPUs:
6650XT - $220
6750XT - $300
6800 - $360
7700XT - $380
7800XT - $470
7900 GRE - $540
7900XT - $690
7900XTX - $850
in europe its not really killer.
6650XT - 238€/257$
6750XT - 350€/374$
RX 6800 ( the only killer deal tbh) - 389€/416$
7800XT - 520€/556$
7900GRE - 560€/600$
7900XT - 738€/790$
7900XTX - 960€/1028$
7700xt -$380🤨
@@diamonshade7484 Oh yeah, let me add that it.
The 7900xt needs to drop to 600-650$
@@einstien2409 Yep i agree, and RX 7900XTX needs to drop to 700$~750$
Congrats with 150K subscribers, Ancient Gameplays.
Thanks!
Thank you for testing the 7800xt.
EXCELLENT idea for a video. Surprised no one else thought to investigate this all this time.
Before starting, this video reminds me of Hardware Unboxed test when they tested 5700 XT vs 6700 XT at same clocks to test IPC.
Performance was similar.
Nice video Fábio. Good to see that the 6900xt / xtxh / 6950 xt are still relevant!
Damn what a meticulous comparisson
Thankyou for the hard work and awesome presentation
You're one of my favorite tech/hardware youtubers. You do this because you fucking love it.
Thank you!
Cool. Maybe I can hang onto my card till the 8XXX series is released. Thanks for the work Bro.
Fabio!!! Dude this videos is really good! Man I was very curious! You saved me a lot of time for research! I was building a second system for my GF and you literally saved me so much time!!! Thank You! 🙏
Glad to help 💪💪
Great video! This is the best one yet ❤ and I learned lots 🤓😎 thank you
Thank you as well!
Nicely done set of tests. Kudos for going the extra mile to validate with two other cards. 👏👏
Thanks as well!
Thank you so much for making the video Fabio you are amazing keep it up :)
Thank you!
Great testing Fabio!
Impressive test, reminds me to the Maxwell/Pascal days. I still remember the 'Good old Gamer' channel did a similar IPC test between GTX 950 and GTX 1050 Ti as they are identical in Specs. Guess what? With same exact frequency, the end performance results are dead same. Pascal is generally a overclocked Maxwell plus.
This video was amazing and very indepth, seeing the differences between cache and chiplets vs monolith architectures is interesting.
Glad you enjoyed it
Dude good job! I have contemplated on getting the 6950 xt or a 7900 xt and went with the 6950 xt and im very happy i did
Great job Fabio! Thank you
Really interesting video! Thank you
huge work ! I knew in 2022 when i bought that RDNA 2 was gonna stay pretty great in gaming, good value future proof wise
Thanks Fabio. Good stuff
Nice analysis dude! I visualizing a fresh gamer nexus channel in horizon
CU for CU and clock for clock, absolutely, but RDNA3 SKUs have been so radically altered from their RDNA2 counterparts that those comparisons were always dodgy.
Yoooo.... Thank you so much for this!
Hey man, AMAZING work here! This looks like it took you a bunch of time and it shows. I think AMD needs to do a lot of work on RDNA 4 before it comes out. Work on RT, work on drivers and all that. Daniel Owen and you seem to do really great tests with GPU's and I know I appreciate it!
Thank you, I am now evolving on the GPU benchmarks (adding more things) and branching out to CPU tests as well, already have more CPUs tested, so more GPU and CPU tests will come out soon :D
As always - The Best explanation.thanks
Thank you!
My son use my old 6900xt MPT tuned. Still a powerhouse. Love it.
Happy to see you were finally able to upgrade to the 7800X3D :)
I was able to upgrade ages ago, I just didn't need it. My main PC is still the 7700X, and will still be till ZEN5 drops :D
Hello ,I really like how you make videos,you have a natural charisma.
I have a question, I know that you show some benchmarks,but in term of productivity, specifically in Adobe Premiere Pro and Davinci Resolve ,the RDNA3 is superior?
Greetings from Argentina
What do you mean?
thanks for the vid! As always enjoy your content. RDA3 seems to me as a Process-architecture-optimization model like Intel has been using over last few years. IPC doesnt change much but still get performance increase based on small improvement.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Lol. To quote Vegeta from abridged, "You're either perfect or you're not me"
Great video!!
Thanks!
Nice video and thank you for sharing. Maybe silly question and perhaps you already did share it at your channel. But I am wondering if you have video on how to undervolted 7900xtx?
I do, did it over an year ago though
@@AncientGameplays , no problem. I will search for it. I am assuming much doesn't change 😛 Once again, thank you for nice video 😁
👏 This way of presenting performance is great. 👍🙋
Thanks!
I guess they wouldn't know until it was too late, but with the way it turned out they might have been better to call the cards lower than the 7900xt "rdna 2+", would've given them a different set of expectations. Excellent work as always Fabio, thank you
Its obvious that hardware part made a dig step up in 7 series but software is still in the way, so will see more benefit of it in future. I really Hope so
Love my RX 6950 XT I bought a year ago for $630 brand new.
yes, fabio, you absolutely need to decouple gpu from mobo and measure the pcie power draw plus the power connector power draw explicitly. then you may compare fps per watt.
igorslab is nicely doing that with all the gpus.
6950xt ist just way too power hungry.
power efficiency of rdna3 7900 xt and xtx improved quite well compared to rdna2.
i'm looking forward to your next video "fps per watt - rdna2 vs rdna3" ❤
Me and my RX 6800 are watching! lol
Mine too
Me and my 7900xtx watching
great card. Had for 3 years , uses little energy, runs cool ( had a nitro plus but most do), great for 1440p, drivers super stable. I upgraded because I like to build, but there's nothing wrong with that card for 2 or 3 more years.
Sooooo, did i make a mistake buying a 6800 brand new right now for 350dollars? Im now skeptical.i didnt watch the video yet
@@BonyArt6I don’t think so. That’s probably the best deal on the market
Still happy with my 6750 XT straight from amd's website on release day little over 500 good video
Fabio, i have one question do you recomend RX7000 cards? And i was talking about drivers, i have rx 570 and eventually have driver crashes. And i make stream, NVENC is still superior? E mais uma coisa, parabéns pelo excelente trabalho :)
we Love you Fábio (hopefully I spelled your name correctly). congrats on 150k subs. much deserved!
Thanks! It's Fábio
@@AncientGameplays sorry dude lol. Thank you for all your hard work.
Bro you been growing these past couple years.
Thanks
Thank You!
Oddly enough, it's the same small gap between GCN1.0/GCN2.0(R9 2xx) and GCN3.0(R9 3xx) in their eras.
Thanks, good one
Good job!
Interesting and very detailed, thank you for this!
Thank you!
Hi thanks for the video! I have a question about the 7900gre temperature. I have a nitro+ and I have like 30C difference between edge / hotspot at default settings. What is your hotspot/ edge difference ?
The more you push it the more it will be usually. Let's say 90C hotspot? You're fine
@@AncientGameplays I am more concerned about the delta because many reviewers like techpowerup claim delta less than 20C. I'm about to RMA the card so I'm just wondering if sapphire sends cards with better thermal pads or thermal compound to the reviews.
awesome video. I keep my reference model rx 6950xt around 2400 GHz core clock, stock vram clock, undervolt to 1120 mV and power limit -10%. It stays pretty much at max like 255 or 256 watts.
How did you lock clock speed? Rdna2 basically ignores your set values.
@@dagnisnierlins188
on RDNA you give it the maximum clock it must reach and the card will then decide whether to reach it depending on the TDP, temperature and GPU load.
but if you set a relatively low clock where neither temperature, load nor TDP limits are reached, the GPU will remain constant at the clock you set.
if instead you set 3 ghz, logically if one of the limitations indicated above occurs the card will not constantly reach that clock.
you see it at minute 23:26 of the video.
@@angelogiramondo1540 I have a liquid cooled rx6900 xt toxic, temperatures never a problem, I suspect I'm power limited, max core clock 2690-2700
very detailed analysis, great work. RDNA3 architecture is pretty much a waste of sand.
Nah, not at all. XTX is up to 50% faster than the 6950XT at 4K for example
@@AncientGameplays yeah with 20% more CU and almost double the memory bandwidth 🙊
@@biomagic8959 yeah, still 30% improv
@@AncientGameplays that's not how math works 😆
Good vid and also good to know that my gre is a 6950 xt xt lol
I am surprised you didnt do a video already on MSI dropping Amd Radeon cards .
Apparently most of the big manufacturers outside of XFX, Sapphire and Power Color wil drop Amd GPUs
I thought it was just MSI? I'm only buying XFX, PowerColor, AsRock and Sapphire.
@@itsatrap4986 Most of the big companies that distribute Nvidia are gonna dwindle And product sales to almost zero!
Msi can go away, I mean, the best brands on the AMD side are sticking and in the recent time we got new ones like asrock and acer
We could care less about MSI.
I am so torn.. do i complain about the inaccuracy of this comparison considering that the 6950 xt has double the cache? Or do i just accept it as impressive that the new architecture does more with less? I am curious how much difference would we get if amd ended up putting vcache on those memory modules like was leaked that 7000 was designed to use. Perhaps Last Epoch is a representation of the performance difference we could have had with extra cache. I imagine the xtx might not benefit from the cache as much because it already has a lot of cache and massive bandwidth so perhaps thats why they didnt do it. It would have been interesting to have the power draw as well to compare efficiency of architecture. Very interesting video as always Fabio. Great work!
You don't need to be torn because as I state (and shown) in this video, RDNA3 have cache up to 2.7X faster than the RDNA2 one, so it is a "give and take". I also stated that besides the 6650XT vs 7600 there are no "equal" RDNA2 and RDNA3 cards, so what we would be doing is to try and test things in several scenarios :D
The 68OU1 XT was a tempting deal. But, I had to put the horses under the hood with a 7900 XT. Also, now hearing the 8000 series might be bunk... Kinda glad I got what I did.
I bought a 7900xt paired with the last of us, and it's a beast!
@@tylerdeskins7715 good choice buying the 7900 XT + the bonus game considering that RDNA4 will be a flop since its still gonna be using 18Gbps GDDR6 and not GDDR7
People need to remember that even though clock for clock and cu for cu it looks like it's not much different they are not the same price point generationally. Nothing compares from last gen to the 7900xt and 7900xtx. 6950xt was the best you could get, the best of last gen. The point of the video is valid.
I'm still happy with my 6700XT, with all the tinkering I've done it's recognized as a 6750XT in ALL games!
It's capable of beating 3080s and that's both OCed and UVed. (MCT + MPT + AnarnimeZone modded drivers) with a custom fan curve and my secondary timings in my modded windows 10. ((I do have pics to prove my build vs. similarly built ones, just with a different gpu!))
In your opinion, should I go 7900 gre or 7800xt? I have a ryzen 3600 and will soon get a 5700x. I play at 1080p but getting a 1440p monitor soon. I want a card that can play 1440p rn and play 4k if needed but at medium not high settings(without needing to upgrade soon). Which would be best? I'm looking at the Sapphire Nitro models
The cheapest, and you're not playing 4k well in any of these, you can use FSR though
@@AncientGameplays So the 7800xt, got it. Thank you again 💜👍
Picked up a 7800xt OC from Asus (Tuf Gaming). Its been fantastic, met all my needs of playing games with usable ray tracing, and although it was pricey at 500 USD I have no regrets considering how much a comparable 4070 costs (almost 200 USD more)
In your case it was a great pick!
@@AncientGameplays coming from a 6650XT absolutely. I can actually play at 1440p with decent settings now :D
One importan question i been thinking in a upgrade wich is in a rx 6800 xt or a 3080 wich one ist the most wise choise??
6800xt for me. 16gb vram
Hello! I have the rx 6800 & ryzen 5 7600x. I can only get around 30% utilization out of my gpu on low settings around 165fps (if I cap it, my monitor is 165hz but uncapped frames it goes around 50%) Is this because I am on low settings?
It's a really interesting comparison not sure I've ever seen anyone else doing ipc comparison core for core (with small diffs). Expected better results from rdna3. Seems that first chiplet gpu design pretty much just lowered the cost, but power draw and ipc gains seem rather small. Wish we could do the same kind of comparison with nvidia.
I'm in serious need of your help
I have a laptop with 7735h and rx7600m xt, i don't know what chipset driver should i install, actually i can't find my specs socket models at all
Is there a way you show us a video about finding this info and how to install amd chipset driver? Please
Ryzen 7 7700 + rx 6800 here and i am still super happy with it. Upgraded to am5 february this year, but on the gpu side i dont see any reasonable upgrade opportunity. 7800 xt is a joke compared to rx 6800, simply does not worth the money. I should buy an rx 7900 xt at least to have a decent jump in performance, but the extra cost is still too high. Nice review as always! :)
this guy make effort to how GPU or system , that COMPARISION are...so much LIKE and thumbs up for the man hardwork.
The infinity cache improvement is rly impressive
remember that you also have an increase in graphics engine capacity.
in RDNA3 you have 2 main clocks; one for the CUs, one for the graphics engines....
you saw some IPC improvements because part of the GPU was actually not at 2.4 Ghz, but at something more.
How do you run Stable Diffusion with Vulkan? I've run the DirectML version, but just switched to ZLUDA for backend. HOLY CRAP! Night and day difference. Can't wait for a true ROCm version (on Windows)!
I just downloaded SharkAI and it gives me the option to run either vulkan or ROCM
I need help my gpu is overheating after I uninstalled drivers using ddu, and I'm on a black screen for a long time, is this normal?
Suggestion would be to also compare using 5800x3d with ddr4 for a better comparison.
Like stacking RDNA3 with with ZEN4 vs RDNA2 with ZEN3.
Example 7800X3D paired with the 7900GRE vs 5800X3D paired with the 6950XT.
Would really like to see that.
Also long time fan been watching for a while and really like the channel also me being and AMD fan Your comparison to NVidia based GPU's seem non biased so I do appreciate You fair and honest approach in delivering the best reviews.
Keep it up!
Never mind I was caught mid video and being slow.
You did make the comparison and proved me right You are the person to watch.
7800x3d is so much faster that no matter what GPU you would put on it. It would be faster..
On which max frequency the VRAM can be stable on the 7900 GRE Nitro + Overclock?
I got the Golden Rabbit Edition for my Easter 🥳
Hello Fabio I got a 6700 xt recently and I couldn't get afmf working. I disabled enhanced sync, rtss, steam overlay, fullscreen optimisation and resize bar. I even unplugged my second monitor but afmf still made 0 visual difference to the fps. Radeon software overlay said the fps doubled but the actual fps is unchanged. I resorted to using fsr 3 mod for games such as cyberpunk and that made a big visual difference in fps. May I know what else I can do to get afmf working?
Were you insisde your freesync range?
@@AncientGameplays I used frame rate target control to 59 fps (my monitor is 120 fps)
I believe using hwinfo sensors, in settings, there is an rtss tab. You can monitor just core power draw there and have it display in rtss osd, as opposed to tbp.
Yes, but since it is mcm the core draw won't be accurate. I wanted the tbp or the rdna2 cards
@AncientGameplays Oh ok. Can't hwinfo provide the tbp of both cards to compare? I think certain cards provide different sensors so it may vary from card to card which sensors are present depending on how the board is modified.
@@djpquickplays1244 I believe not, but I might be mistaken
@@AncientGameplays Either way I appreciate the effort and time that must go in to this kind of comparison and it makes great content. I watch and like your vids everytime and hope that they keep on coming! Must also add that since switching from a 7900XTX to a 4070 Ti (I know, mad, but I got a good price and DayZ, my main game, has issues on AMD cards) I am experiencing jittery, microstuttery camera movement on Cyberpunk, Ratchet and Clank and Horizon : Forbidden West whilst traversing and looking around. Not all the time, but in more demanding scenarios. I have a 12700K. Seems like NVidia is crushing my CPU more or GSync is bugged.
i remeber when dbz abridged first came out. i fell in love right off the bat and i couldnt stop crying from laughing so hard.
thanks Fabio.
Interesting video, but wouldn't it be more accurate comparison, to compare the RX 6900XT Vs the RX 7900XT, or the RX 6950 Vs the RX 7900 XTX, providing the RX 6 series GPU's to their RX 7 series counterparts (brought up with the understanding of your on hand stock to use for testing) . I left Nvidia for AMD three years ago and run a RX 6900XT an a RX 6800, game at 1440P and have never regretted doing so, never having issues, as following your videos using DDU program, thank you for you time and effort!
Thanks, and no it wouldn't. Listen to the intro where I explain things mate.
Have a nice day 💪💪
Bro i have a asrock 6800xt just bought it yesterday used.
How to overclock the gpu should i use the amd software or should i use the asrock tweak software.? And can you tell me what are the normal temps of 6800xt its hovering around 72 in rdr2 and just now i stress test it with furmark its hotspot reach even 100 celcius should i be worried? Please tell me
What are the settings you're playing at? You're not telling much with just the title. Ehat are your fan settings and speeds. As for the asrock software you don't need it. AMD adrenaline is all that you need really. My previous rx6800xt was keeping those temps even higher at hoghwards legacy 4k and even had a couple of overheating shut downs-got a replacement. Now with the same settings uv,oc and fan control it doesn't go over 70. If you have 0 rpm on your fans disable it. I'd suggest watch fabio's video on how to undervolt and overclock rx6800. It should bring down your temps sognificantly.
@@chiari4833 I am playing at hardware unboxed rdr2 settings at 1440p
@@saminder_singh 1440p. the temps are a bit too high for my tastes at that resolution.
@@chiari4833 it's 70 in rdr2 and approx 70-80 hotspot in rdr2........ 100 celcius only goes in furmark...... I am seeing this temps in msi burner. Their are 2 temps in msi afterburner I think one is normal temp and one is hotspot temps right? I don't know about this because I'm new in this....
Nice review now we finally know! The uplift of RDNA3 is very disappointing. The Ai performance is nice but gamers do not really use that yet. RT and Raster performance are not that much higher and when you undervolt the cards the gap closes even further if you limit the cards to the same TBP. Especially when watching UA-cam or other desktop work the RDNA3 cards are not efficient. You have more undervolt options for RDNA2 aswel. I hope. RDNA4 will fix the under utilization of the double alu shader units. Something is clearly not working ad intended.
Bought that RX 6950XT because of your videos, and based on the reviews I wont upgrade until RX 8XXX drops (if it is worth it),
RDNA4 will be on GDDR6 with 18 Gbps, like 6950 XT have.
When are they dropping tho
Interesting video
Maybe you should try sourcing an Nvidia PCAT? or something that measures power draw of the gpu as a whole using dedicated hardware, to be able to provide a more accurate picture when it comes to power consumptions of older amd cards
OSLTT tool is opensource and easier to buy in EU
@@brunogm ohh good to know
I bought 7800 xt finally so I can use my 1440p monitor (I had 6650 xt)
Nice to be reminded of how messed up AMD's nomenclature got on the 7000 series. 6800 = 7900 GRE. Like, WTF?????
7900GRE was a special edition not meant to come to the worldwide market. Gre means golden rabbit edition
@@AncientGameplays still, a generation later and it should have been called the 7700 GRE, maybe 7800 GRE, just like the rest of the lineup. My 7900xtx should just be an XT. Every time I get asked by AMD for feedback, I let them know about this.
I have 6950xt and I love it , I get 250fps on warzone big map and 150fps on cyberpunk with ray tracing on with frame generation.
Agora que percebi os cones dos alto-falantes ao fundo estão amassados. Fica a dica, podes tentar consertar com um aspirador mas use algo macio na interface.
Sticking with my 6700XT for now. Let's see what's the next generation brings for performance uplift.
i have a 6700XT for sale 1 year old i upgraded to a 7900XT
@@bryansullivan9588 how is the performance difference? I'm just waiting on newegg to stock the asus tuf 7900xt for $720 to pick one up.
The longer you wait the bigger the performance difference - as long as you are comparing the same card model and taking account of initial release prices. I did jump a class on my last purchase - my previous card was a GTX 1080, still performing 'reasonably' up to last year, but, left in the dust with my new 7900XT. That 7900XT on the other hand was $200 more expensive, though most companies have, and still are, profiteering off the pandemic and pricing effects of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
Thank's ! Imho the big jump was RDNA1 to RDNA2, RDNA3 is a bit symbolic.
Its the first mcm arc, will improve with time, like Ryzen
In last epoch bet it's driver related since the 7900 gre is relatively new still
Have you by any chance tried Detroit Become Human on both generations? I just got a 7900 GRE and I swear it's doing worse than my 6800 was on that game, even overclocked.... It was barely hitting 60fps at 3072x1728, I'm almost positive I was playing at 4k on the 6800 (non xt). Edit: yeah I just watched a guy compare it running on an rtx 3070, 2080ti, and 6800 non xt, and they all got over 60fps at 4k, the 6800 was mostly over 80 other than a few drops.
I don't think the GRE would be performing worse than a 6800 in literally any situation. You might need a driver update or to simply unlock power draw on that card
@@AncientGameplays Drivers are updated and it's overclocked with the settings from your 7900 gre video, I have most of the games you tested here and get the same FPS in those you were getting in this video. It's the only game I've had any issue with I just wondered if anyone else had a similar experience because it makes no sense. Going to try reinstalling it but it's not a huge deal anyways.
thanks
Did you use geometric mean instead of arithmetic one to summarize the results?
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@@AncientGameplays He asked if when doing, say, the 13 game average results at 9:21 , did you use the arithmetic mean or geometric mean to compute the average FPS ?
Aritmetic mean is just you sum all of them and then divide by the number of elements. So, 10, 15 and 20, the arithmetic mean is (10 + 15 + 20) / 3 = 45 / 3 = 15
Geometric mean - you multiply all items then do the n-th root of the result, where n is the number of elements. So, for 10, 15 and 20, the geometric mean is cubic_root(10 x 15 x 20) = cubic_root (3000) = 14.42
The geometric mean seems to be more fair when the items / values vary highly. Because if you have 10 games, so 10 values, and 9 of them are around 60 FPS, and one of them (say, Rainbox 6 Siege or Valorant or ... Quake 2) is around 800, then, when using the arithmetic mean, the 800 FPS game will influence the average result more than the other 9 games will. I mean, I can actually give you the numbers: the arithmetic mean of what I said above is 134 and the geometric mean is 77.74
And I can give an example of being more fair. Let's say that in the above example, one card is the same 60 FPS for 9 titles, but 600 FPS for the 10th one.
And the other card is 30 FPS for 9 titles, but 900 FPS for the 10th one.
Arithmetic mean for the first card: 114 FPS. For the second card: 117 FPS. They seem very similar when using the arithmetic mean
Geometric mean for the first card: 75.53 FPS. For the second card: 42.15 FPS. Here it shows that the second card is, on average, worse. Since it had -50% FPS on 9 titles and only in one title it had +50% FPS. But it happened that the title in which it did well had very high FPS.
Hope this makes sense.
I didn't paid 100% attention on the video, but it seems that the memory speed was glossed over. RDNA 3 cards, some of them also have higher speed memory.
RX 7900GRE - 18 Gbps per pin vs RX 6950 XT - also 18 Gbps per pin, so here they're equal. And with the same 256 bit width, that means the same memory bandwidth
RX 7800 XT - 19.5 Gbps per pin (yes, more than 7900GRE) vs RX 6800 - 16 Gbps per pin. Hereo RX 7800 XT is 20% faster. Ah, crap, it was mentioned at 16:49 . Never mind
Also, LoL at the real life loading screen tips :))
Nah, the memory speed was far from glossed over. In a matter of fact, I talked about it before every test and sometimes in the middle of them (charts). You need to pay more attention haha.
I know you noticed at 16:49, but I did state them more times haha
Yeah, i didn't upgrade from my 6700XT yet. 12Gb is fine, performance is OKish with upscalling in quality mode, the performance jump didn't make me upgrade this generation. Yeah i could go for a 7800XT or 7900GRE in my price budget, but honestly, i can still play with my 6700XT so... no. Perhaps next generation.
I'm thinking of going to a 7900 gre from 6700xt soon, mainly for me I want high refresh 1440p experience, the 6700xt is capable for 1440p but not for high refresh. I kinda wanna wait for 8000 series but thats maybe 5-10 months away, not worth it for me
Xt7900 is the switch spot and even beter wen fsr goes ai core usage
Upgrade when you need too. Example I kept playing games on my gtx 1080 for long time. Since gpu were insanely priced I bought 5900x from 1700x. I got extra 30 fps and ultra settings instead of medium. I upgraded to 7900 xtx at launch. I am thinking about upgrading to ryzen 9000 with 3d cache. They have miners that use cpu that will pay for itself in 4 to 6 months. If you don't need to upgrade just wait. I knew I needed to when spiderman was dipping in 50s and low 40s. I was wanting to play darktide and hogwarts legacy. Hogwarts legacy was a better game with the amazing performance. Always upgrade if it will affect your experience and if you can afford it. There are fun games that don't require much to play. I am enjoying batman akrham knight on steam deck. Runs great and getting to play it while I am working.
same
Coming from a 6700XT for me only the 7900xtx was a worthy upgrade. Everything below wouldnt feel justified in terms of performance uplift. The 6700XT still performs well with upscalers in new AAA titles. And if u dont play those, even better..Solid card.