@@daveb2280 no its not. Hes a CCA. They over work over burden and bully you into going faster. Managment gets approved by uppermanagement to use ccas as mules. Over burden and pushing them. They should atleast start at 22 23
Here is what I wonder. If...and its a big if, there was not such a vocal outcry from carriers across this country would our "leadership" actually be fighting for more pay? I honestly don't think so. They know their jobs are on the line and yet they are still staying mum on what they are demanding. What is absolutely infuriating to me is that from contract to contract nothing really has changed and yet these negotiations have been drugged out repeatedly!! And for what? 1.3%?! Seriously?! The arrogance and ignorance at the national level is astounding!! They have been stuck in their little bubble where they believe they are awesome and they NEED a serious wake up call at the National Convention!! They need to hear it from everyone that this BS contract dragging out is unacceptable!! This continuous silence on our demands is unacceptable!!! These continuous and repeated contract violations need to stop! There NEEDS to be serious and incremental monetary awards to each and every carrier NATION WIDE for repeated contract violations! If a supervisor in Arkansas violates the contract carriers across the district/nation should be compensated!! Management NEEDS to be forced to follow the contract!!! For far too long the carriers have been subjected to continuous and repeated harassment and it NEEDS to be stopped!!! Until management is publicly shamed it will continue!! Let's make some noise at the National Convention to the point where even the National Media picks it up and reports on it!!! Stay safe my brothers and sisters!!!
I've been crying this out to people here on UA-cam and on Reddit... Unfortunately there are too few of you and I and too many sheep that are just willing to suffer through the slavery (let's be honest at what they pay us it pretty much is) for the almighty Dollar. I don't see much hope for USPS. I firmly believe once physical mail dies out Amazon will buy us out/ get in congress's ear to let them hold the government contract and voila bye-bye USPS and before you know it, we're all working for Amazon. Not like we already deliver all their shit anyways
funny thing is once you convert and get that $22 you start paying for your benefits and no more working 50 hours a week. my office tries to cap us at 48 hours. be prepared for $1400 paychecks no more $2200 CCA checks
It’s funny to see comments from the newbies, Carrier here with 35 yrs, we started out @ $16 now around $36.20. Back in the day the longest contract negotiation were 2 yrs of course we get back pay. Top clerk pay is $41.99/hr and Carriers should get that minimum. C’mon Renfroe get em to the arbitration table and get it done so I can retire next year. Always stay safe and call around 2 pm follow their instructions you make more money that way.
We need to keep pace with Ups. They received a $7 raise over 5 years so our contract is 3 years so we should get a $5 raise. If we do not the union has failed us. But if we started people at $30 an hour then the only way for it to be fair is for everyone that's already in the post office to get an $8 an hour raise. They're not going to do that.
I find it hilarious how we pay these people every single paycheck for them to just keep us wondering for MONTHS. Brian knows everyone wants information on what going on but he does not care. The guy is clearly incompetent of his job
Id say even a bigger issue is top step taking over 13 yrs to get to. Its 5 years for UPS... I understand the whole "loader years makes it longer" but the PO doesnt include a CCAs time when we're talking top step time so thatd be over 15 years. Thats insanity. 8 years to top step is most it should be.
We still as a system, haven't recovered from the hiring freeze 15 years ago. I came in 2016 and it was bad then and still hasnt gotten better, and it all comes down to pay.
Scavengers of the delivery service is USPS! UPS ahead by $13 an hour, not to mention they pay zero for healthcare. 25 years and out,😢! Proves binding arbitration is a failure!
binding arbitration is the only option to us per the law. It was an agreement made during the strike in the 70's. By law, federal employees cannot strike. its against the law and has pretty severe penalties
They technically pay zero for healthcare. It is lumped into their union dues tho. So instead of paying 40 bucks every 2 weeks for union dues they pay like 150. So it's basically the same.
Any carriers estimate back pay to date? Hypothetically, if we were to get what the mail handlers received which is 1.3% each November plus full colas, and using year over year inflation of 3.4%, I estimate the following amounts for back pay for top pay carriers as of July 31, 2024. $2,856.00. Calculations are based on the following. August 2023 cola thru November 2023 contract raise. $.63 an hour or $352.00. November 2023 contract raise thru February 2024 cola $1.10 an hour or $704.00. February 2024 cola thru August 2024 cola $1.73 an hour or $1,800.00. Conversely, top pay carrier on July 31, 2024 would be $78,155.00 and you will have to adjust back pay in accordance with the overtime and double worked during these pay periods.
I'm at 6 years and $25 an hr. Sick spouse and 4 kids and I sacrifice to 1 meal a day. Inflation is knocking my head off. Now I doordash after my 10-12 hr shift. Somethings gotta give... and soon
0 faith in NALC after they made the auto conversion after 2 years the regulars who were stuck as cca for over 2 years should have gotten retroactively bumpped up in payscale for the years served after the 2. Couldnt even do that
I love when people bring up inflation and col. it’s out of control crazy right now. 7 years 26.10 ! No good. Waiting on contract and we’ll go from there
It’s crazy. My rent just got raised 175 dollars this past month to renew. This would be no big deal if we were properly paid for the job we do and the jobs that have to be in straight comparison with us. The wages HAVE TO INCREASE dramatically. This is honestly the twilight zone. If we started at 30 bucks it also would make this job desirable again, which you and I know would make a huge difference in the help we are hiring.
@@mannyhate6666 yup nice go to response. So predictable. Yawn. So you don’t think people in high col areas should be paid properly?! Interesting! Union strong!
You ain't lying my office just hired a ptf clerk off the street with no experience...I've been here 3 years and she's making $3.50 more an hour than me. I just got my first step increase as a ptf and did 2 years as a CCA working every damn Sunday
What the hell is going on, why hasn't arbitration started, who is delaying it from happening, is it the useless Post Master DeJoy, I mean the contract ended 13 months ago, the Carriers need money too, we have bills to pay and families to take care of, I'm fed up with this nonsense, get this contract done already, and we should be making way more money than the clerks
Unfortunately I think it’s all planned out. It is strange that politicians finally look into usps with what management is doing so they drag dejoy into this to kinda run the clock. We got wars ahead of us. They just created a law about drafting people into the military. The dollar is going to shit. The last thing the government needs is to give us carriers a raise. I don’t see it happening.
At any given time management or the union can say we can't agree , let's go to arbitration. Since it hasn't yet, I'm assuming they are real close. Weather that's good or bad for us who knows.
@@371kenny Renfro has been negotiating with USPS management for more than two years, at this point all it seems to be is that management is purposely dragging this out longer and it's ridiculous at this point
@abrahamlopez8754 renfroe is to blame too. He could have said let's go to arbitration the day they started negotiating. Obviously there's a reason both sides don't want to go to arbitration. It has to be that they are close to an agreement.
Here in Texas, city carriers make $19 and some change. Rural is a dollar more. Based on the sensitive documents we handle & weather conditions we deal with. It's no wonder why usps can't keep any new hires.
Gonna lose a lot of people if we don’t get something close to table 1 . And inflation was a the biggest curve in the last 3 years as it has been in 35 years! So table 1 probably would be making more than it says
I’m at 19.83 2 years in CCA and I’m seriously considering going back to school because 3 months of school can get me 25 a hr start in the medical field my husband wanted me to work at the post office but it’s not enough and I only pay utilities and he pays the rent and my car insurance
It’d be the only way you could retain people on the west coast and other high cost of living locations. People are not interested in the excessive hours and mandated working the NS day since Covid started. Paying 30 bucks an hour in much of the US would be insane dollar wise. Stamps and postage in general would be unattainable to the average Joe. It would be an interesting financial balancing act for sure.
Maybe it’d help if they didn’t invest so much in scanners that don’t work if there’s weather of any sort and work poorly the rest of the time. Or if they didn’t invest in crap like Pro-Masters that get stuck in light snow. I’m sure these concerns were nothing compared to the kickbacks some desk jockey got for giving those contracts out without any thought to how the equipment fails to function.
Hey brother, your numbers are a little off. You’re referring to the Fleischli award, which upgraded City carriers to levels 6. Separating us from the clerk pay wise. Before that if I’m not mistaken clerks and carriers got paid pretty much the same. City carriers start at $22.13 Clerks start at $25.65 This is due to the fact that clerks receive 100% COLA. It’s a bigger raise for the bottom steps than it is the top step if everyone gets the same COLA, so their bottom step have kept up better than ours. APWU has a true two-tier workforce. If you are on table 2, you cannot get to the top pay on table 1. That is not the case for the NALC. City Carrier Step P:$75,299 Clerk Table 2:$70,951 Clerk Table 1:$74,056 So unless you’re a table 1 clerk, you make $4,348 less at the top step than a letter carrier.
People need to start voting with their dollar, why keep paying union dues if we don’t get the appropriate representation from them. I know a lot of people who already decided this contract decides wether they stay with the post office or not.
l Agree with you. what l don't understand why do we need to wait for our anniversary day to withdraw and give you a 14 day window frame and must be certified mail and you are being told we never received your resignation papers.
@@downandout1507 oh brother, I've been crying about this to people left and right how they need to withdraw from the union and speak with their dollar. The reason why we have to wait till your anniversary is because the whole thing is a SCAM top to bottom. IT'S A DAMN PONZI SCHEME. Did you know they still have to represent you even if you're not paying member in times of trouble with managers etc
Jethro, You are forgetting the most basic aspect when it comes to employment and I have never heard you mentioned it ever. “Supply and demand” Wages and benefits will be in line with what the market will bear. If you want to make what UPS makes then go work for UPS. You are pushing a Californian $20.00 an hour minimum wage agenda for fast food workers onto the USPS and how did that work out for California. Daily headlines have chronicled 10,000 job losses, reduced working hours, restaurant closures and higher prices. Did you ever think about the repercussions of jacking over 200,000 letter carriers wages up $10.00 an hour? If we were to get that don’t you think the clerks, mail handlers and rural carriers will demand the same? I will tell everyone right here right now you will not get anything close to what you are thinking. We get contractual raises, less COLA’s, of 1.1% - 1.3% and you guys are holding out for a 50% increase for CCA’s? You are out of your minds.
Nop that will not happen. They can make it so that to get to top pay is faster maybe 8 years to get to top pay but the start pay will stay the same. It will never happen.
8 X 30 =240$ a day If I'm delivering 2500 piece of mail including flats and packages 2500 X 0.67$ = 1,675$ So 30$ an hour is nothing they make out 1,435$ in 8 hours of each fkn carrier
Finally somebody pointed out the mail volume revenue. Good for U 5790. As to the other guys comment. I say usps revenue is anout 70billion a year give or take 37billion a year with and 8hr per day tour for all employees. Add 13billiion in OT, another 13billion in operating cost and facillities. And U left with 5-7 billion in gross, not bad plus tax write-off’s= allot more money, in the investors pocket.
@@sgtbr2564 yeah what about the person who’s still employed at the post office that hasn’t come to work for 5 years because they were bitten by an ant? Or the elderly carrier who uses their age as a means to get out of work yet achieve top pay instead of retiring? Or anybody else abusing the system? That’s what they need to be looking at.
@tyrindenzel this what I can't stand about the union... we have some trash ass regular carriers. Half don't want to show up for work. We now have 2 PTFs off "hurt". I'm starting to realize why so many people quit. I've worked 11.5 hrs a day all week.
Put another way you think that new carriers should get a 35% raise. LOL But 20% maybe. No other carriers are starting at $30, but you randomly spout that "facts show we should start at $30 an hour"..... I am good without giving everyone a raise. If we do a flat wage bump of $2.50 immediately and then $7.50 or whatever ups did and that benefits new hires more that is fine. But I don't know why anyone would expect that.
What you have stated is completely untrue. We are behind one contract raise, let’s say 1.3% and two colas, let’s say year over year 3.4%. Cumulatively that’s 4.7% which is no where near the 20% you claim. And now you want a 50% raise for new hires?
If they don’t give these young ones a raise they will have no one when us old guys retire
Management will ruin things. There will be no one left to deliver the mail. Felons cannot do it.
I’m 24 and a career employee living in California the wage we’re making ain’t it
I’m also at $19.33 and for the amount of work that they ask/ have us do, we deserve a lot more in pay.
You make less initially, but your retirement and medical benefits are factored into that and grow exponentially. Is math really that hard?
@@daveb2280 no its not. Hes a CCA. They over work over burden and bully you into going faster. Managment gets approved by uppermanagement to use ccas as mules. Over burden and pushing them. They should atleast start at 22 23
i agree. a first class stamp should already be a dollar ! with everything jacking up the price, 1$ for a stamp is about right !
Here is what I wonder. If...and its a big if, there was not such a vocal outcry from carriers across this country would our "leadership" actually be fighting for more pay? I honestly don't think so. They know their jobs are on the line and yet they are still staying mum on what they are demanding. What is absolutely infuriating to me is that from contract to contract nothing really has changed and yet these negotiations have been drugged out repeatedly!! And for what? 1.3%?! Seriously?! The arrogance and ignorance at the national level is astounding!! They have been stuck in their little bubble where they believe they are awesome and they NEED a serious wake up call at the National Convention!! They need to hear it from everyone that this BS contract dragging out is unacceptable!! This continuous silence on our demands is unacceptable!!! These continuous and repeated contract violations need to stop! There NEEDS to be serious and incremental monetary awards to each and every carrier NATION WIDE for repeated contract violations! If a supervisor in Arkansas violates the contract carriers across the district/nation should be compensated!! Management NEEDS to be forced to follow the contract!!! For far too long the carriers have been subjected to continuous and repeated harassment and it NEEDS to be stopped!!! Until management is publicly shamed it will continue!! Let's make some noise at the National Convention to the point where even the National Media picks it up and reports on it!!!
Stay safe my brothers and sisters!!!
Hell yeah!
I've been crying this out to people here on UA-cam and on Reddit... Unfortunately there are too few of you and I and too many sheep that are just willing to suffer through the slavery (let's be honest at what they pay us it pretty much is) for the almighty Dollar. I don't see much hope for USPS. I firmly believe once physical mail dies out Amazon will buy us out/ get in congress's ear to let them hold the government contract and voila bye-bye USPS and before you know it, we're all working for Amazon. Not like we already deliver all their shit anyways
22 to start?!! I'm making 19.33 lmao. Literally HAVE to work 50+ hours a week to pay my bills and feed my children with all the hikes in prices
Ur a cca
It’s 22 when you turn over
funny thing is once you convert and get that $22 you start paying for your benefits and no more working 50 hours a week. my office tries to cap us at 48 hours. be prepared for $1400 paychecks no more $2200 CCA checks
30 is the new 20 nowadays
Agreed!! Like wow 30 a hour big deal lol imagine $30 back in 2015
It’s funny to see comments from the newbies, Carrier here with 35 yrs, we started out @ $16 now around $36.20. Back in the day the longest contract negotiation were 2 yrs of course we get back pay. Top clerk pay is $41.99/hr and Carriers should get that minimum. C’mon Renfroe get em to the arbitration table and get it done so I can retire next year. Always stay safe and call around 2 pm follow their instructions you make more money that way.
You can't compare, inflation now days is through the roof. Something has to give!
We need to keep pace with Ups. They received a $7 raise over 5 years so our contract is 3 years so we should get a $5 raise. If we do not the union has failed us. But if we started people at $30 an hour then the only way for it to be fair is for everyone that's already in the post office to get an $8 an hour raise. They're not going to do that.
I find it hilarious how we pay these people every single paycheck for them to just keep us wondering for MONTHS. Brian knows everyone wants information on what going on but he does not care. The guy is clearly incompetent of his job
Id say even a bigger issue is top step taking over 13 yrs to get to. Its 5 years for UPS... I understand the whole "loader years makes it longer" but the PO doesnt include a CCAs time when we're talking top step time so thatd be over 15 years. Thats insanity. 8 years to top step is most it should be.
We still as a system, haven't recovered from the hiring freeze 15 years ago. I came in 2016 and it was bad then and still hasnt gotten better, and it all comes down to pay.
Scavengers of the delivery service is USPS! UPS ahead by $13 an hour, not to mention they pay zero for healthcare. 25 years and out,😢! Proves binding arbitration is a failure!
binding arbitration is the only option to us per the law. It was an agreement made during the strike in the 70's. By law, federal employees cannot strike. its against the law and has pretty severe penalties
They technically pay zero for healthcare. It is lumped into their union dues tho. So instead of paying 40 bucks every 2 weeks for union dues they pay like 150. So it's basically the same.
@@jboogie7854that’s still way cheaper is it not?
Any carriers estimate back pay to date?
Hypothetically, if we were to get what the mail handlers received which is 1.3% each November plus full colas, and using year over year inflation of 3.4%, I estimate the following amounts for back pay for top pay carriers as of July 31, 2024. $2,856.00.
Calculations are based on the following.
August 2023 cola thru November 2023 contract raise. $.63 an hour or $352.00.
November 2023 contract raise thru February 2024 cola $1.10 an hour or $704.00.
February 2024 cola thru August 2024 cola $1.73 an hour or $1,800.00.
Conversely, top pay carrier on July 31, 2024 would be $78,155.00 and you will have to adjust back pay in accordance with the overtime and double worked during these pay periods.
And we deliver fedex and ups and dhl and amazon packages
We have about 10 jobs
Job security 😉
I'm at 6 years and $25 an hr. Sick spouse and 4 kids and I sacrifice to 1 meal a day. Inflation is knocking my head off. Now I doordash after my 10-12 hr shift. Somethings gotta give... and soon
@@anthenytaylor6305 im at 4yrs and $24 the regular clerks make more than me with 1yr in
@@anthenytaylor6305if nobody ever tells you my man you are a G.
0 faith in NALC after they made the auto conversion after 2 years the regulars who were stuck as cca for over 2 years should have gotten retroactively bumpped up in payscale for the years served after the 2. Couldnt even do that
I love when people bring up inflation and col. it’s out of control crazy right now. 7 years 26.10 ! No good. Waiting on contract and we’ll go from there
It’s crazy. My rent just got raised 175 dollars this past month to renew. This would be no big deal if we were properly paid for the job we do and the jobs that have to be in straight comparison with us. The wages HAVE TO INCREASE dramatically. This is honestly the twilight zone. If we started at 30 bucks it also would make this job desirable again, which you and I know would make a huge difference in the help we are hiring.
Get another job period
@@mannyhate6666 yup nice go to response. So predictable. Yawn. So you don’t think people in high col areas should be paid properly?! Interesting!
Union strong!
@@mannyhate6666 honestly such a poor thought. Useless.
You ain't lying my office just hired a ptf clerk off the street with no experience...I've been here 3 years and she's making $3.50 more an hour than me. I just got my first step increase as a ptf and did 2 years as a CCA working every damn Sunday
What the hell is going on, why hasn't arbitration started, who is delaying it from happening, is it the useless Post Master DeJoy, I mean the contract ended 13 months ago, the Carriers need money too, we have bills to pay and families to take care of, I'm fed up with this nonsense, get this contract done already, and we should be making way more money than the clerks
Unfortunately I think it’s all planned out. It is strange that politicians finally look into usps with what management is doing so they drag dejoy into this to kinda run the clock. We got wars ahead of us. They just created a law about drafting people into the military. The dollar is going to shit. The last thing the government needs is to give us carriers a raise. I don’t see it happening.
At any given time management or the union can say we can't agree , let's go to arbitration. Since it hasn't yet, I'm assuming they are real close. Weather that's good or bad for us who knows.
@@371kenny Renfro has been negotiating with USPS management for more than two years, at this point all it seems to be is that management is purposely dragging this out longer and it's ridiculous at this point
@abrahamlopez8754 renfroe is to blame too. He could have said let's go to arbitration the day they started negotiating. Obviously there's a reason both sides don't want to go to arbitration. It has to be that they are close to an agreement.
@@371kenny Well I hope it's done soon and Carriers get a good contract because we deserve it, we all got bills to pay
$22.13 in 2019 is worth $27.19 today.... We are entirely way behind the ball pay wise. If they can't get in front of inflation with pay we're screwed
Union sucks, sides with management, protects them. DOES NOT SUPPORT THE CARRIERS
If I retire in mamh
June 2024 andi if we get 4 or 5 up front in contract should my pension be upgraded from our contract
Carriers should start at $40/hr. In California.
Here in Texas, city carriers make $19 and some change. Rural is a dollar more. Based on the sensitive documents we handle & weather conditions we deal with. It's no wonder why usps can't keep any new hires.
Gonna lose a lot of people if we don’t get something close to table 1 . And inflation was a the biggest curve in the last 3 years as it has been in 35 years! So table 1 probably would be making more than it says
0 faith on NALC . I'm waiting on my day to come in August to be out .. 34$ I can buy a toy for my kids every 2 weeks
I’m at 19.83 2 years in CCA and I’m seriously considering going back to school because 3 months of school can get me 25 a hr start in the medical field my husband wanted me to work at the post office but it’s not enough and I only pay utilities and he pays the rent and my car insurance
It’d be the only way you could retain people on the west coast and other high cost of living locations. People are not interested in the excessive hours and mandated working the NS day since Covid started. Paying 30 bucks an hour in much of the US would be insane dollar wise. Stamps and postage in general would be unattainable to the average Joe. It would be an interesting financial balancing act for sure.
Maybe it’d help if they didn’t invest so much in scanners that don’t work if there’s weather of any sort and work poorly the rest of the time. Or if they didn’t invest in crap like Pro-Masters that get stuck in light snow. I’m sure these concerns were nothing compared to the kickbacks some desk jockey got for giving those contracts out without any thought to how the equipment fails to function.
Hey brother, your numbers are a little off. You’re referring to the Fleischli award, which upgraded City carriers to levels 6. Separating us from the clerk pay wise. Before that if I’m not mistaken clerks and carriers got paid pretty much the same.
City carriers start at $22.13
Clerks start at $25.65
This is due to the fact that clerks receive 100% COLA. It’s a bigger raise for the bottom steps than it is the top step if everyone gets the same COLA, so their bottom step have kept up better than ours.
APWU has a true two-tier workforce. If you are on table 2, you cannot get to the top pay on table 1. That is not the case for the NALC.
City Carrier Step P:$75,299
Clerk Table 2:$70,951
Clerk Table 1:$74,056
So unless you’re a table 1 clerk, you make $4,348 less at the top step than a letter carrier.
Now go look at what ptf makes...they make a $1 more than regulars and city PTFs make the same as a regulars
thank you for the information in both videos today!!
Can I ask ALL of u a question what time are yall starting on Sundays and holidays because we start at 10 am and is nuts working till 7pm on sunday!!
They finally changed ours to 10 am and It's been a serious shit show ever since
@Indyjumpman22 yeah it really stinks I hate it and then they STILL rush us
10:30
People who worked at the post office for 100 years and about to retire hate to see this thing happen, and they will be super grumpy once it happen.
Ya that says it all about our Union! Stand together? I don’t think so. What a shame
I started at 80,000 a year salary and I work 6 hours a day 😂
USPS employees have some the best retirement and medical benefits in the industry. Zero sympathy.
No why in a few years from now they won’t be any mail to deliver only packages 😊
22 hr is for ptf. I am a cca and make 19.33.
Good stuff as usual Matthew
I wouldn't say no. 😊
We should be max out at 49
I feel it sould be more for ALL the crap we have to deal with!!!
That’ll never happen but it would be great!
People need to start voting with their dollar, why keep paying union dues if we don’t get the appropriate representation from them. I know a lot of people who already decided this contract decides wether they stay with the post office or not.
l Agree with you. what l don't understand why do we need to wait for our anniversary day to withdraw and give you a 14 day window frame and must be certified mail and you are being told we never received your resignation papers.
@@downandout1507 oh brother, I've been crying about this to people left and right how they need to withdraw from the union and speak with their dollar. The reason why we have to wait till your anniversary is because the whole thing is a SCAM top to bottom. IT'S A DAMN PONZI SCHEME. Did you know they still have to represent you even if you're not paying member in times of trouble with managers etc
I'm making 24.11 a now. How much do you think a raise should be for all carriers
Jethro, You are forgetting the most basic aspect when it comes to employment and I have never heard you mentioned it ever.
“Supply and demand”
Wages and benefits will be in line with what the market will bear. If you want to make what UPS makes then go work for UPS. You are pushing a Californian $20.00 an hour minimum wage agenda for fast food workers onto the USPS and how did that work out for California. Daily headlines have chronicled 10,000 job losses, reduced working hours, restaurant closures and higher prices.
Did you ever think about the repercussions of jacking over 200,000 letter carriers wages up $10.00 an hour? If we were to get that don’t you think the clerks, mail handlers and rural carriers will demand the same?
I will tell everyone right here right now you will not get anything close to what you are thinking. We get contractual raises, less COLA’s, of 1.1% - 1.3% and you guys are holding out for a 50% increase for CCA’s? You are out of your minds.
I have gotten no COLA since I converted to regular. October I converted Regular
Nobody has.... not until contract is done
Looks like there will never be a new contract if we get a new president of the USA.
Because of inflation
Nop that will not happen. They can make it so that to get to top pay is faster maybe 8 years to get to top pay but the start pay will stay the same. It will never happen.
What was that Podcast you mentioned for Rural Carriers? I couldnt make it out
In VA you start at 19.33
8 X 30 =240$ a day
If I'm delivering 2500 piece of mail including flats and packages
2500 X 0.67$ = 1,675$
So 30$ an hour is nothing they make out 1,435$ in 8 hours of each fkn carrier
What about paying other postal employees? We deliver the mail yes but the postal service has other crafts to pay plus gas,rent,etc.
Finally somebody pointed out the mail volume revenue. Good for U 5790. As to the other guys comment. I say usps revenue is anout 70billion a year give or take 37billion a year with and 8hr per day tour for all employees. Add 13billiion in OT, another 13billion in operating cost and facillities. And U left with 5-7 billion in gross, not bad plus tax write-off’s= allot more money, in the investors pocket.
@@sgtbr2564 yeah what about the person who’s still employed at the post office that hasn’t come to work for 5 years because they were bitten by an ant? Or the elderly carrier who uses their age as a means to get out of work yet achieve top pay instead of retiring? Or anybody else abusing the system? That’s what they need to be looking at.
@tyrindenzel this what I can't stand about the union... we have some trash ass regular carriers. Half don't want to show up for work. We now have 2 PTFs off "hurt". I'm starting to realize why so many people quit. I've worked 11.5 hrs a day all week.
Put another way you think that new carriers should get a 35% raise. LOL
But 20% maybe.
No other carriers are starting at $30, but you randomly spout that "facts show we should start at $30 an hour".....
I am good without giving everyone a raise. If we do a flat wage bump of $2.50 immediately and then $7.50 or whatever ups did and that benefits new hires more that is fine. But I don't know why anyone would expect that.
for career regular i can see it being like 28 and hour and cca at like 22
No we’re are you going to get that kind of money not from the people that’s for sure 😡
Zero faith that will happened
so basically go back to Table 1
I make $36.20 an hour. I can’t complain too much.
😂😂😂😂😂
What about CCA starting pay?? There should also be a major increase for CCA. It should all start with CCA pay.
No one cares about cca sadly but they’ll probably start at 22
I Think people are assuming ccas won’t exist
LOL cca’s…
💵💵💵
How did the "jokes" get elected
Political affiliations
What you have stated is completely untrue. We are behind one contract raise, let’s say 1.3% and two colas, let’s say year over year 3.4%. Cumulatively that’s 4.7% which is no where near the 20% you claim. And now you want a 50% raise for new hires?
Most of the young less than 7yrs don't keep a regular schedule; but want more pay.
Do they even have money to be giving out raises?
They have money to give management 5% raise and bonuses
$30 for unskilled labor? Nah
But $40 plus an hour for unskilled is fine?
It is a skill to work 10-12hrs a day in 110-120+° without walking off the job
Clerks don’t misdeliver mail and parcels and steal time daily
how often do you clerks mis sort mail?
😂😂😂 are you hiding in the AC typing this?
Clerks misdeliever mail every day to po box.
Clerks in my office can’t seem to do anything right
I see a lot of Missouri’s in my post when I take the pumpkin out to the truck