"Don't do this! But if you did want to do this, here's how..." Recommending parts suppliers is the biggest move from a hardware supplier. Huge props to Valve, this needs to become industry standard.
It will never be coming industry standard because companies can't make as much money that way. Apple is the world's most valuable company, and they did that by being as anti-consumer as they could get away with.
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Thank you so much for being so transparent about the product, its a huge breath of fresh air when looking at the rest of the current market's 'closed off, no information for customer at all, you cannot tamper or fix the property you justbought off of us, we still own it' attitude
transparency should be a complete rule at this point. Tired of companies not TELLING me what I'm actually getting at launch, especially in games. Only two companies I've seen that's really good in terms of transparency so far imo is 343 and ID software.
"Unless you really feel like taking big risks with your property, and your life, which could end if you do this wrong." That being said in as calm a voice as it was said it made me smile and I don't know why.
Pro tip: when dealing with self tapping screws in plastic, thread the screw in reverse until it clicks or abruptly sinks, then you can start screwing them in the correct direction. This technique ensures that you aren't cutting new threads into the plastic, weakening it.
Basically, “You shouldn’t but it’s yours and you can. Here are some of the trappings and pitfalls to be aware of.” That’s Right to Repair-friendly in my book. Knowing that some can have issues we can look for specific SSDs and other components that fit and don’t interfere. My only criticism is that they should have suggested you try to reuse threads when putting the screws back into the plastic. Repeatedly cutting new threads will damage the plastic screw post whether you use a torque wrench or not… and then you’ll need a new front housing.
To me the video is anti right to repair, they are using some typical fear mongering points because i doubt people will be getting battery's blowing up or that much of an important difference in drop resistance. But its nice that the actual technical side is very right and repair friendly with sourceable replacement parts. Update: To clarify i am criticizing them for the dramatic way in which they present these points in a fear mongering way. I am not saying they should not be warning the user or adding disclaimers. What i am saying is that i think they went to far in this direction in the exact same way company's do to try to get people to vote against right to repair. All they had to do was mention that the quality of the product depends on their assembly and that by opening it up they can no longer guarantee the performance of the device to be as advertised while advising you to leave it to an expert if you are not familiar with handling an electronic device that has a battery. The way they did this was deliberately to scare people from doing it, which is a step beyond a mere "don't sue us".
@@Henk717 The video is more of a cover our ass in the off chance that someone attempts to sue, stating that they will reveal more information in coming months on a source of replacement thumbsticks, SSDs and more is the complete opposite of anti right to repair.
@@Henk717 It strikes me as pretty middle-of-the-road, which I don't think is an unreasonable position for them to take with pre-production hardware, etc. I mean, they're no Apple, but they also haven't released board schematics; though they actually might
I love how Valve is actually talking to us like we know what we're doing and filling in blanks specific to the Steam Deck rather than talking down to us like we're idiots. They chose the one option that would actually prevent units from being damaged because it communicates to both sides respectfully enough that people are actually hearing what's being said.
they apear to be getting better with comunication (and updating), some of the recent tf2 update patchnotes were credited to comunity members, so i think that they're starting to talk more with the comunity, if i remember right, L4D2 had a recent major update, and it was a comunity made update, so i think VALVe is starting to regain trust after invasion, the point is, i think valve is regaining lost trust from the invasion update
Valve's got more users that are PC builders than console manufacturers do, so it makes sense. Most people who bought these are probably going to want to open them up at some point.
I'm wondering if someone's going to make an m.2 riser cable to move the ssd out of the shell or into an third party expanded back shell. Or maybe expanded back shell for a larger battery and improved cooler and a riser cable to move the ssd into where the old battery was. All things that seem possible.
if someone just tells you that something is bad to do you're probably will not listen, but if you know why exactly something is bad to do, at least you could try avoid bad when doing something
In fairness though, no one has experienced any issues with inference or power consumption by replacing the SSD. I upgraded to a 2TB one and everything works just as well
unfortunately the cringey profit motive makes other companies incentivized against repairs and longevity. Thankfully Valve is doing the right thing for society
Shout out to Valve for being pro right to repair. It's genuinely refreshing to see a company show you step-by-step how to replace parts AND mention that you'll be able to purchase replacement parts from them directly in the future.
Not only that, but explaining exactly why third-party components might cause issues, without explicitly saying so. So anybody who'd provide steamdeck repairing services would know what to do. No need for walled gardens this way, and you get the same level of quality.
Probably because they are a software company, not a hardware company. They cant sell you games if your stick fails, and your can't get a whole new deck instead of just replacing the thumb stick.
Not only did they not glue everything together for no reason: They had the guts to do their *own* teardown video. And on top of that they alluded to being able to get replacement parts. They may not be doing it perfectly, but this definitely puts them well ahead of like 99% of consumer electronics companies in terms of respecting right to repair.
Why are you making our like this revolutionary or something. Console companies have been doing teardown videos for a while now and they didn't spend the entire time whining and telling people constantly not to because they are too stupid not to kill themselves. Worst video I have seen in a while. What a bore.
Apple: designing their hardware specifically to be impossible to repair in any way Valve: "Here's a Tutorial how you can troubleshoot your Steam Deck Hardware properly, but be careful."
I mean, I like the fact that they said “fuck it. We’re warning you big time to not do this but it’s not like we can stop you, so if you really want to and you know what you’re doing then sure, go ahead! Just don’t say we didn’t warn you.”
It's also major bum covering if someone does do something stupid and injure themselves etc. Then try it on in a litigious manner. Public proclamation of yes, but here's why you shouldn't.
I love Valve, you guys are literally the best, instead of locking everything down and hiding all the design documents. You freaking make a video showing how to safely work on the steam deck even though you suggest customers don't mess with it. I love the freedom and, as a Linux user, the amazing Linux support throughout the years. Keep up the amazing work guys!!
@@nikkoa.3639 True. I love Valve for how pro-consumer they are being with the steam deck, but another part of me is a little spiteful for what they did to Half Life fans and TF2 fans.
This is an transparency is an insanely smart marketing tactic from Valve, and a pretty respectable one at that. Really hard to get both of those things right, nice job guys.
I love how they specifically show how to replace the joysticks, especially after all the shade directed at Nintendo. "Did your joysticks break? Don't worry, you *don't* have to buy a completely different console, you can just replace it like this!"
@@ToniMorton i am prettttyyy sure it is because you removed the screws and not designed to be like that. Also i dont think valve would make it "design" it that hard to make it unuseable. Though they definitely will not, since there will be a lot of criticism there.
THANK YOU for not soldering in the thumb stick. Knowing recent controllers, the sticks are bound to catch a drift, if you catch my drift. Steam deck made it infinitely easier for average consumer to replace stick when it eventually fails. They are also providing replacement sticks, awesome!!! Love you guys, don't change.
@@SuperFinGuy And how long have you been using it? I’ve got three 20 ish year old PS2 controllers, two of them have control sticks which are very loose and crusty. The one that is working is an aftermarket controller, and even it has a split cable sheath. Use it enough and it will wear out. That’s why having replacement parts are nice. “Lifetime” parts only lasts as long as the manufacturer’s intended lifetime, which may be just one console generation.
@@DuxAT yup, which is why it's good for it to be easily replaceable since wherever the 200+pound bald monkey interacts with things is where they're most likely to break
Unfortunatly the battery is still glued down and doesn't appear to even have a strip the help pull it out and the battery is the main definitly will fail and it'll only take a year or two if you use it a lot part.
Wow. I feel so much respect for Valve making this: giving us all the information we need and acknowledging that our property is ours while also cautioning people against unwise decisions so they don't break their Steam Deck. They're doing the right thing. Why can't more companies just do the right thing?
Could be multiple things, but usually it's obv more money for companies if people don't know what they are doing and breaking stuff themselves, one fine example could be even apple blatantly scamming their own customers adding fake charges on repairs, but that comes with a balance, valve are entering a big competition by allowing tampering and even essentially giving a guide, brings lots of reputation and people switching over, honesty in business also pays off, if done smart.
I'm so happy Valve is on the side of right to repair. I'm probably never gonna do any of this myself, but it's nice to know that people who know what they're doing have some documentation on hand now.
"Remember, if you have followed these directions correctly, you've done absolutely NONE of the preceding steps..." : Priceless !! Nice work Valve thanks !
I don't get it... Is it about opening it super carefully and being able to deny that you opened it, for warranty? Or is it about if you actually rewound time like they do in the vid, you literally would not have opened it in the first place? Or just that it is actually physically impossible to do these steps in reverse, and so if you think you did exactly that, you're wrong? ?
Oh, you broke your iphone screen? you have no option but to buy another one; repairing it is illegal, we don't sell new parts and it will void your warranty
Techinically, since Steam Deck is a PC, you can just use Google Voice & treat Steam Deck like a phone... But I know what you're saying, a device that also dedicates itself as a phone, so it won't be awkward as to use Steam Deck as a phone. But it's great that it's even possible that anyone willing can use Steam Deck as a phone.
I feel like that'd be a waste. valve is kinda unique cause they have such a prominent company, yet they're not publicly traded, and they have almost infinite money because of their massive income and small workforce. this allows them to take risks that would just be arguably illegal if they had to answer to investors. something as generic as a phone would not be the right use.. unless it was really out there. also it doesn't really synergize with their chart of income, unless steam wanted to enter the mobile space. but I think valve is more interested in growing with pc than growing beyond pc.
Imagine Valve would create a phone, I Invision it as an expanded version the steam phone app with steamOS features. Design wise it would have a hard plastic body for durability, removable back, 4k-5k mah removable battery, sd card slot*, fingerprint scanner, modern networking, basic sensors 3.5mm audio,dual front firing speakers, basic front and back camera, usbc, 6" 1080p LCD at 90hz or 120hz* It will only boil down on how valve would want it to be as niche possible, is they put a galvanized android in there then a sd card is a no brainer, but if they put a mobile version of steamOS they could probably run away with it only having an internal storage. In terms of functionality, it could be valve's gateway to the mobile market, selling mobile curated apps through their own store, imagine having a mobile version of wallpaper engine, it could have a potential for steam to transition from a game store and a game community to gamer space(gaming social media), community forums, profiles, chatrooms, marketplace, let's see if they could add 3rd party apps such as twitch, youtube, spotify heck why not twitter, authenticate steam with the use of biometrics. In terms of feature we gamers only want the good stuff and the others just okay but not terrible, cameras are good but not as good compared to a flagship one, I still have no idea what would the storage part would be 64,128,512??? It could do what the steam deck could do but it isn't as fast because it's only running on a SOC. Thats pretty much my take on SteamMobile* a niche product and a watered down version of the steam deck. There are some drawbacks,it could have some or hardly any text and call features it's probably for the betterment of the industry since discord, facetime and messaging apps are a thing, you wouldn't want to lose that device since it got your authentication, we don't want to lose that progress, games we spend time and money, remove that gaming stuff about it and it's just another one of those dumb phones.
It's like a crazy high school science teacher going: "Solidified salt bombs are highly dangerous and literally explode when it contact with water. Here's how to make it!"
@@Yupi_mun Facts. If you don't care about the accessories that come with the higher capacity models, buying the cheapest one and upgrading the SSD yourself is the way to go.
@@con6911 They warned you not to do it. That's different than just flat out saying "don't do it". If they believed in the latter, this video wouldn't exist.
"The Valve Corporation would like to remind you, that modifying the Valve Steam Deck, can, and will, lead to: electrocution, second degree chemical burns, death, and most notably, voiding the warranty of the Valve Steam Deck." "Please make sure under no circumstances t--*radio static*"
I'm almost crying thats how happy it makes me to see a tech giant release an offisal dissassembly video AND saying that replacement parts are an option. Valve got a place in my heart
"Don't disassemble it" "Here's how to disassemble it" lmao, seriously though, cool to have a guide for maintenance if you really want to do it from the experts themselves.
And yet the switch is like one of their easier devices to open and service. Nintendo has been greasey but not when it comes to repairing- in fact its all mostly modular
"For replacing the battery on any of our devices you'll need this special tool called spudger and a heatgun, but you'll want to have precise control otherwise you'll explode the battery."
I like how open Valve is being with their product. Unlike Nintendo. When I get a Steam Deck and the sticks start drifting if they do that. I’ll know how to fix it! Also modders are going to have a field day with the Deck when it releases! Thanks for this video Valve!
don't fix it yourself, unless you _really_ know what you're doing remember the "Unless you really feel like taking big risks with your property, and your life, which could end if you do this wrong." line
@@griss295 It's not as dangerous as they say it is, they're just being careful. Replacing those components is about as dangerous and difficult as doing so in any PC is.
@@Zebo12345678 yeah the "you could die" part is similar to the warning labels in products. It's just to idiotproof your lawsuit, most people that will do this will do it successfully
This video is so transparent and relaxed that I didn't realize it came from the Valve megacorporation itself. The Goofy edits made me think it was just some engineer UA-camr who accidentally blew himself up with the Steam Deck and is now trying to warn us
I'm beyond in love with how accessible the thumb sticks are. That is probably the single component that may need swapping above all else (fingers crossed not) and Valve appear to have made it an easy and up front kind of swap.
The battery looks buried in there though which is basically a complete interest-killer. That *will* stop taking a charge, and you *will* have to replace it.
@@keiyakins When the big yellow circle is on the battery, it's clear that there is a pull tab on the battery assembly at the bottom right corner of it. I think you're assuming things, and it looks like replacing the battery will be simple. Why would they make the unit user-serviceable and show videos of it and then not let you order and replace the battery with a new one?
What do you mean, buried? It’s under two ribbon cables, the connectors for both of which are easily accessible. I can’t tell if it’s glued in, but just getting to the battery seems trivial.
This. This is tech-parenting win - "we don't recommend doing this, but we also can't stop you. So if you're going to, here's how not to die" Major props Valve!
Valve: Look at all these people breaking NDA... Someone's bound to open it up and show the internals. Someone else at Valve: What if we did it for them?
@@reecesx These kinds of videos are still miles in the right direction. Even with all the dev kits in people's hands, and the obvious leaks that are going to happen, Valve could have easily gone with an Apple approach. People who open their machines and fix things on their own either don't have the means to replace/pay to repair their devices, or are experienced enough to be confident to work on it. Both of these categories are massive minorities in they're advertised market. They still chose to show their consumer openly on how to fix vital and high wear parts. This is the right direction for where we are at.
The good thing about this video is that it shows that they are willing to provide repair details to professionals. Sure, most people won't be able to do this stuff properly, but maybe they have a friend who can do it for them on the cheap, or for free.
You guys have my respect. 1. For Making a repairable product and not gluing everything up or just straight up preventing repairs. 2. Linux gaming & Proton / Steam Play 3. For Making Half-Life 4. Making Steam. You guys helped many gamers who used to pirate for the sake of convenience by Centralizing and managing the Game Library. Prior to Steam, we had to store & protect discs and other shenanigans to preserve it and so on.
yet they scare you into thinking a lithium battery can kill you and lying that removing the screws will forever ruin the structural integrity of the case which will prevent most people from ever opening it up
@@visceraeyes525 it covers valve's ass from lawsuits and accidents due to customer stupidity, protects customers from the few true situations in which opening the device could be unsafe, and creates business for repair shops
When putting back self tapping screws gently go backwards (counter clockwise) till you feel a click, then proceed to tighten clockwise. Greatly reduces the chance of ripping up the threads. Thank you Franlab.
yes and no?. yes- its marketing to make them look good during this whole right to repair debate and im all for that no- just because of this video you wont just go a buy one now anyone who was going to buy it already have it reserved and its practically impossible to try to get your hands on it now
@@night2957 it’s still good advertisement for the company and for its brand and name. Eventually the Steam Deck will become publicly available to buy on Steam; their focus now is to build a good reputation and shed good light on the product. Sorry if the grammar of the sentences that I wrote is bad, I’m not an english native speaker.
@@night2957 My circle of friends are very much console gamers, despite this, I still have a friend who wanted to reserve a Steam Deck but is now stuck waiting for the *eventual* second batch. I'm sure a majority of the people who were interested in owning one (and willing/able to spend on it) have already done so. But there's also a good amount of people who didn't make it in time or are currently very much interested but waiting to see what us in the first batch have to say after we get our hands on it. Also, remember that Valve may be incentivized/enthusiastic to make another piece of hardware (Steam Deck 2 or otherwise) if this does well. In the same way that the way the handled and produced the Steam Controller and Steam Machines has made people more cynical about them developing their own hardware, and in the same way that the the Index have very much helped some people be excited again, what they do all through this product's buildup and post-release will affect their ability (and enthusiasm) to sell us another piece of hardware. Staying relevant is important right now, even if people cannot actually buy anything at the moment. Sorry for the ramble :p
Not only are they so open to users messing with their hardware and software, I also love how they mention the safety risks and the fragility of all the parts.
This is the one of the coolest videos I have ever seen from a tech company about a product. They're not treating you like a child, instead they are educating you and informing you. They show how to do it correctly, and why you probably shouldn't. It's much better than saying don't do it, because people are going to anyway. We need more of this from manufacturers in the world (especially big phone companies *cough cough* Apple). This is a great example for how companies can approach Right to Repair as well.
The fact that the voiceover mentioned about how a replacement SSD can have a different EMI signature makes me think this video was made by a Engineer (who wasn’t oh-so-commonly hamstrung by management on what he could or could not say.) Good guy Valve.
I think there's still a lot of that in this video though, Valve _really_ doesn't want us to replace the SSD so they're listing every reason they can come up with to discourage us, down to the EMI signature. But the simple fact that this video was still made shows that yes, they do have an engineering focus, and that's amazing.
@@DeeSnow97 they have to give out all the warnings they can in case someone sues them. But the openess and friendliness and the fact that the device can be repaired,isnt glued down is a big win. The fact they'll provide replacement parts as well is just the icing on the cake. Apple can burn in hell
@@sfbptank it can be a big deal that close to the wifi module. It's very difficult to get decent wifi antenna placement in a handheld and interference is always a concern. SSDs internals can run at different frequencies, and while it might not effect it much, it could severely limit the range at which wifi acts "good"
There are 14 screws removed in total and the underground hes working on has 2 stripes. 14-2= 12 Half of 12 is 6, which is also the number of screws closest to the left stripe. Both of those screwpiles are seperated into piles of 3. He also used 3 tools to take the steam deck apart. 🤯 HALF LIFE 3 CONFIRMED 🤯
They the amazing quiet guy thats really cool but very lone individual, that only talks when necessary and everybody like how he shares his opinion and interact. Yeah, that level of specificness.
Valve should get an award for having the best classics (You know, HL, L4D, TF, Portal and others), having the most popular platform to buy games and giving out a great repair guide for its product. 👏
valve is not a public company and probably has very few investors, its what allows them to do all of this genuine stuff, the moment a company sell themselves in that kind of way, the main business becomes being a profit earning company instead of an artistic game-making for money company, it was very smart to make steam since they have now both a legit profit business and a platform to make great games and products without having to drop the point entirely, making an industry giant like valve and staying that way is a very humble-ish thing, they're possibly the biggest company and the less-corrupt at the same time. god. damn. (well maybe steam is kinda sus but you get me)
Valve's market is PC gaming. They are embedded in that culture of freedom, tinkering, modding etc which defines PC. Apple is a totally different ethos, it's less of a community conversation and more product focused.
"And you have every right to open it up and do what you want" "The warranty doesn't cover any damage that *you* do." AKA Valve is one of the very _very_ *VERY* few companies in the world that FOLLOW THE LAW.
This is just a nice way to tell you warranty void if device is opened. Which is nothing new.... This video is here to basically telling you "We even told you how to do it in case you still wanted to go forward with. So, if you fuck it up, IT'S 100000000% YOUR FAULT AND YOUR RESPONSIBILITY"
@@algis-kun8777 Warranties arent actually void if you open up hardware, no matter what they say, warranties are only void if you damage it yourself in the process.
@@algis-kun8777 It's them saying, "Hey, you still have warranty, but if YOU caused the damage by opening it up then we can't cover that" instead of the "WARRANTY VOID IF REMOVED" stickers (which are illegal, and also why OP said they "FOLLOW THE LAW")
@@JohnSmith-fq3rg "damage it yourself" which can totally happen while opening the device. broken covers or the plastic clips, or even short something on the motherboard just by opening the device can totally happen.
Of all laptops, one of my absolute favorites to work on was the IBM, (now Lenovo), Thinkpad series back in the early 2000's. One thing that you really had to pay attention to was the little number next to the screw holes. It told you the size of the screw that went there. In some cases, you had to pay close attention because the size difference between two screws was probably just shy of a millimeter, but if you happened to not be paying attention and put a wrong screw and it happened to be the one that was just under a millimeter too long, it would damage part of the keyboard so that only the keys on the left side would work. There was no way to fix that, so you had no choice but to order a whole new keyboard. This particular series was popular with businesses, (I think it was the T-60). I worked on quite a few of them for businesses, and I could almost immediately tell that the customer had taken it apart and, not being experienced, (at least not with that particular model), they didn't pay attention and of course lost function of half of their keys. ...And that, boys and girls, is why you should make sure you either know the system you are working on, or have very good attention to detail. -The End. 🙃😁🤪
And to be fair,even with laptops and normal pcs its still the case,if you dont know what you're doing yore fakin ded if you do something incorrectly, even if you do know what you are doing you still need to be careful
"hello, cave johnson. i am legally required to warn you that the following steps may kill you. with that out of the way, here is how to dismantle a steam deck."
Guy at valve: “can I do a steam deck tear down?” Valve: “no. The customer shouldn’t think they can open the console” Guy at valve: “can I do a steam deck tear down if I tell them they shouldn’t open the console?”
I remember in the USSR you would get schematics for any product you got which enabled you to either fix it yourself or take them to a repair shop who could use them to help you fix it. If you wonder how so many ppl in Eastern Bloc countries kept old stuff for so long /outside of assumptions/, that's one of the reasons why. I always felt that this should become a standard in the modern world. If you request the schematics you should be given them and ideally also a video like this. I feel like Valve is taking the first step forward in that.
A tremendous amount of respect goes out to Valve. They've changed the landscape entirely in multiple areas on more than one occasion- and this is no exception. Very excited to get my paws on one of these.
iFixit seen in a corner, muttering to themselves, "but that's our job......" Thank you Valve, for being so up-front about all of this. Super excited for December!
Yes, but why does taking it apart "immediately" reduce the structural integrity? If this is strictly true, then these cannot be repaired without reducing said structural integrity. So what happens if you send for warranty? While I applaud them for making a teardown(well sort of), but the fear tactics and comments like the first one I mentioned makes me want to cancel my pre-order. Framework they are not.
@@marcdukette5095 Any product using self-tapping screws or any piece of plastic that snaps-in to keep it closed will have the plastic become weaker due to the fatigue of repeating that process. It's really inevitable with those, and making a cost-effective product without them is plenty hard. To be honest, I can think of few devices where this isn't the case, short of parts that are meant to be opened. It's just not obvious to people who don't know about the details of this type of industrial design.
@@lxnerboi4636 Wow Fan boy much!? I threw in an honest reaction to this video. I didn't realize this was a everyone must Kiss their *** channel. @VarenRoth, thank you for the polite response, yes I understand. I guess in my own way I was pointing out to people that if(When) you need to have this repaired you suffer the same degradation, not just if you do it yourself. again while I applaud them for this teardown, it reeks of fear tactics. While they don't come out and say "this will void your warranty", since that's illegal, they imply it at more than one point in the video. Either way I will move on and whether I buy one of these or not this is obviously not the channel to discuss the pros and cons of this system.
Massive props to Valve, still legally dodging responsibility if you damage something by saying "hey, you probably shouldn't do this", but still providing the info regardless.
@@movitoviscyrinxed446 it just ensures that any static shock will be of sufficient level to have an impact. Although touching a sharp solder point could damage the gloves enough to render their insulation useless in the fingers.
These gloves are likely ESD safe vinyl gloves. Just like in some factories you are required to wear ESD safe shoes that does not prevent you from being grounded to the standing mat at your workstation. As such they actually even out the potential between them and you and then through the wristband to the potential grounding. Not all "plastics/Polymers" are the same :)
It's because valve takes surveys from steam users and I'm guessing from that they can tell how many people actually know what their doing. From just looking at someone's PC build you can tell a lot about them.
This is actually a really clever way to both absolve yourself of end-user idiocy ("we REALLY don't recommend you do this, and if you boop it up, it's on you"), while also showing those that are going to do it anyway, the _right_ way to do it _safely_ to minimize the chance of them doing it wrong. I like this, more companies should do this kind of thing.
omg, I just realized this was a legit Valve video and not just your average device disassembly youtubers, massive prompts to Valve for being the absolute king of a company that it is!
In a world where the easy-to-break parts are soldered on, they at least had the sense to make it modular. Props to valve for thumbstick replaceability, what's always irked me with modern controllers is the fact they're soldered into the board. However, I will give them crap for the self-tapping screws, it could be because of cost but I'm still kind of irked by that
Could be for the stability. They sort of expect that it's gonna get dropped by their users. Even says that "Opening the case weakens it" Probably tested a ton of configurations and decided on self tapping ones for most friction for holding the case together. Just a guess though, I could be talking out of my ass for all I knoiw.
@@SollowP Most non-tapping screws I've seen (laptops and handhelds) need metal standoffs in the shell to thread - that being separate to the case housing adds a point of stress when impacts happen, causing the plastic holding the standoff to crack and come free.
@@SollowP Indeed is for stability under fall or crash situations, far better than other types of screws. The downside is that they can only be reopened and re-attached only a few times before the juction is damaged. So doing a dissasembly should be dome as a last resort thing, or by authorized Valve guys. Then again, is your property alright.
I think the self taping screw are honestly fine. A ton of other design would have glue or clipping assemby that you cant access once fitted. Sure, annoying, but decent. I'd love to know if the battery is glued though. I'm not actually sure, but isn't the IO on the top also in a separate module ? The ribbon going to it makes me think so. If that's the case and the battery isn't glued, that's three of the most common problems of that type of device addressed (IO, sticks and battery, the last being the screen, which, I assume is a pain to change considering the design),
@@terramap2902 Self-tapping screws have been used in electronics for a long time (NES and Commodore 64 come to mind), if you're careful to make sure it's lined-up correctly to the factory thread, you can remove and rethread it plenty of times without issue. This isn't something you'll be doing more than a couple times in the consoles lifespan, you'll be fine in that case.
I'm so glad there's still a company that supports owners' right to do/fix their properties on their own, and they actually support it by providing the part to replace.. Mad respect, can't wait to get my steam deck!!
Probably can build your own with the parts they can provide. Though it *CAN* be more expensive to buy up individual parts and build yourself than if you were to just buy the item at market price. edit: plus not a recommendation either, knowing you can screw up at any time and everything goes out the window.
You know, I might actually buy a steam deck now knowing I'll actually own it and be able to possibly fix hardware issues if needed, or even just take it apart and put it together in something else and reuse the parts. Big props to you guys.
The fact that valve will let people buy the official or endorsed parts with no restriction is a huge step in right to repair. Fucking love these engineers and all of the steam deck team
Every part has a signature code and an authorised repair is just sending your phone away and getting back a different one. Which is why you back up your data.
@@kidmosey it actually doesn't prevent hardware mods. it's entirely to make you buy a whole ass new iPhone. you can also still jail break the newer iphones too...
@@forevercomputing you can replace anyway your iphone display, battery, camera, backcover, speaker, charging port, and they will all work. In the newers they may send a notification, in the others not, but that's it, they work
It's really cool that even though they don't recommend doing this, and they advice the risks to their users. Valve doesn't try to hide the information about how we could repair it if we wish. Huge props for that, this is what every company should do, treat their users like with respect, and don't hide information about how to fix the product they bought.
This video is literally “you should absolutely not try taking your steam deck apart under any circumstances, but we know some people aren’t going to heed our warnings no matter how we say it anyway, so here is how you don’t kill yourself or your console while you do it.” And I love that
@Leo n. the Actman did a pretty good video documenting Valve's offenses, while going through the overall history of the company as a trailblazer ua-cam.com/video/edIFFm12AOQ/v-deo.html
Apple: "noooo you can't open our products you have to buy a new one" valve: "your machine, your rules and here's a guide on how to do it" stuff like this makes me love valve even more
I think valve contradicts themselves though. They are telling you you should not open this or you could die in which in my opinion causes confusion. if I need to open something to replace a component (resistor, capacitor, battery, SSD) I'm gonna do it to get it working again!
i think by "you should not open this" they meant "you shouldn't open it just to see what's inside but if you're having problems then you can because it's your device and here's how to do it"
@@EdnovStormbrewer ever heard the phrase "even if you could, doesn't mean you should" ? like they totally ok with thr owners tinkering with the device, they just said some precautions like it can be dangerous and can void the warranty.
@@EdnovStormbrewer if you consider yourself to be smart enough to open a device to repair it, I also think you should be able to understand that this video is not for the avarage tech enthusiast but for little Johnny at home that got this for Christmas and tried to replace his thumbstick
Really happy to hear you guys say that you'll share ways to get replacement parts and how to fix the steam deck. Feels in line with right-to-repair and I am thankful for that. Thank you to the team for their hard work!
I love this mentality. "We don't want you to do this for these reasons, but it is you own it and you can do whatever you want with it. If you are going to, here is how to do it safely." I wish companies were all like this. So many products are designed with the intent to make it as difficult as possible for a user to edit or customize what they own. Especially with phones which have new cases and custom parts that make it impossible to self-repair. The steam deck is such a cool piece of hardware, I can only imagine it was incredibly fun to design and optimize.
- "Remember to wear an ESD strap" - Wears it outside a glove. Well, at least you in text mentioned it's wrong though. :p Nice little guide tbh, would've loved a more complete teardown, but I guess Ifixit will get one out as soon as they get their hands on the device. GG, Valve.
@@paulbastow2190 It's an ESD surface. I have a similar surface that is ESD with a spot to clip onto. He's also got the backside of the snap touching his wrist. The glove is pulled up under his wrist: ua-cam.com/video/Dxnr2FAADAs/v-deo.html
This, puts a smile on my face. I'm not getting a Deck rn but I'm just happy this exists and i hope it's a success, showing other companies that you can be profitable and customer friendly at the same time.
As usual with any device with a lithium based battery, mishandling can kill you (That's why any manufacturer that allows rooting a phone warn you before giving the code that unlocks the device, that the device can kill you if miusconfigured and they will they will ignore any type of guarantee or responsibility for any lethal injury caused by this). Any sold phone since 10-15 years ago comes with this warning in small letters, but like licenses and other documents, most people just never read them. Valve at least is pretty clear about it, so they comes as classy for doing so.
Apple: *"what, you want to replace your iphone battery? WELL YOU CAN'T! stop being entitled and buy our $700 pc wheels."* Valve: *"so anyways here's how you open it up, you might die but at least you can do it."*
"Don't do this! But if you did want to do this, here's how..."
Recommending parts suppliers is the biggest move from a hardware supplier. Huge props to Valve, this needs to become industry standard.
heck
@@gimubatulo be gone
It will never be coming industry standard because companies can't make as much money that way. Apple is the world's most valuable company, and they did that by being as anti-consumer as they could get away with.
@@MrGamelover23 same with playstation
@@cinzley244 same with xbox
"its your property, your choice"
"but you might die"
major GladOS vibes from this man
Then goes on to show you how not to die very effectively.
You monster.
They should have used her voice or the one they used for the prerecorded messages at the beginning of Portal 2
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Thank you so much for being so transparent about the product, its a huge breath of fresh air when looking at the rest of the current market's 'closed off, no information for customer at all, you cannot tamper or fix the property you justbought off of us, we still own it' attitude
Yes
transparency should be a complete rule at this point. Tired of companies not TELLING me what I'm actually getting at launch, especially in games. Only two companies I've seen that's really good in terms of transparency so far imo is 343 and ID software.
@@normakes very true 34 got my respect right now
I second that
iphone in a nutshell
"Unless you really feel like taking big risks with your property, and your life, which could end if you do this wrong."
That being said in as calm a voice as it was said it made me smile and I don't know why.
classic GLaDOS moment
Right?? Such an Aperture science thing to do
also because it’s so refreshing to hear a company actually say that i fuckin love valve
Golden opportunity to shove in an aperture joke but they didnt
Presenting critical information in a way that isn't dramatized or rhetorically loaded?
Pro tip: when dealing with self tapping screws in plastic, thread the screw in reverse until it clicks or abruptly sinks, then you can start screwing them in the correct direction. This technique ensures that you aren't cutting new threads into the plastic, weakening it.
I've used that trick for any fastener for as long as I can remember, not just self tappers.
Yep. Doesn’t matter if you have a torque wrench or not: Cutting new threads each time will weaken it. Always try to reuse existing threads.
Never thought of/knew this, I typically just rattle the screws in until they seemed to hit the bottom, then screw. Good tip, much appreciated.
I learned this when screwing down the crown on an expensive watch. Very good advice.
like turning it left before you turn it right?
Basically, “You shouldn’t but it’s yours and you can. Here are some of the trappings and pitfalls to be aware of.” That’s Right to Repair-friendly in my book. Knowing that some can have issues we can look for specific SSDs and other components that fit and don’t interfere. My only criticism is that they should have suggested you try to reuse threads when putting the screws back into the plastic. Repeatedly cutting new threads will damage the plastic screw post whether you use a torque wrench or not… and then you’ll need a new front housing.
To me the video is anti right to repair, they are using some typical fear mongering points because i doubt people will be getting battery's blowing up or that much of an important difference in drop resistance. But its nice that the actual technical side is very right and repair friendly with sourceable replacement parts.
Update: To clarify i am criticizing them for the dramatic way in which they present these points in a fear mongering way. I am not saying they should not be warning the user or adding disclaimers. What i am saying is that i think they went to far in this direction in the exact same way company's do to try to get people to vote against right to repair. All they had to do was mention that the quality of the product depends on their assembly and that by opening it up they can no longer guarantee the performance of the device to be as advertised while advising you to leave it to an expert if you are not familiar with handling an electronic device that has a battery. The way they did this was deliberately to scare people from doing it, which is a step beyond a mere "don't sue us".
@@Henk717 The video is more of a cover our ass in the off chance that someone attempts to sue, stating that they will reveal more information in coming months on a source of replacement thumbsticks, SSDs and more is the complete opposite of anti right to repair.
@@Henk717 if they were anti right to repair they wouldn’t make this video in the first place
@@Henk717 It strikes me as pretty middle-of-the-road, which I don't think is an unreasonable position for them to take with pre-production hardware, etc. I mean, they're no Apple, but they also haven't released board schematics; though they actually might
@@Henk717 Right to Repair has nothing to do with discouraging or encouraging you. They clearly do that for liability and warranty reasons.
I love how Valve is actually talking to us like we know what we're doing and filling in blanks specific to the Steam Deck rather than talking down to us like we're idiots. They chose the one option that would actually prevent units from being damaged because it communicates to both sides respectfully enough that people are actually hearing what's being said.
@@jessycute9516 Be gone
@@nice2835 LOL
@@jessycute9516 nobody like advertisers
they apear to be getting better with comunication (and updating), some of the recent tf2 update patchnotes were credited to comunity members, so i think that they're starting to talk more with the comunity, if i remember right, L4D2 had a recent major update, and it was a comunity made update, so i think VALVe is starting to regain trust after invasion, the point is, i think valve is regaining lost trust from the invasion update
Valve's got more users that are PC builders than console manufacturers do, so it makes sense. Most people who bought these are probably going to want to open them up at some point.
3:40 The fact that they not only say "dont use another ssd cuz it's bad, but actually explain WHY makes this video much more trustworthy"
I'm wondering if someone's going to make an m.2 riser cable to move the ssd out of the shell or into an third party expanded back shell. Or maybe expanded back shell for a larger battery and improved cooler and a riser cable to move the ssd into where the old battery was. All things that seem possible.
if someone just tells you that something is bad to do you're probably will not listen, but if you know why exactly something is bad to do, at least you could try avoid bad when doing something
In fairness though, no one has experienced any issues with inference or power consumption by replacing the SSD. I upgraded to a 2TB one and everything works just as well
@@bikechan9903it could lead to reduced performance later
Ill stick with the SD card
Of course they’ll explain in an official video
So glad Valve has a positive attitude towards repairs, hoping this becomes industry standard!
unfortunately the cringey profit motive makes other companies incentivized against repairs and longevity. Thankfully Valve is doing the right thing for society
PC gaming culture is about building and moding your own builds
@@ovadyarachman7243 fair enough, valve is just playing by the rules of their own niche in the industry
It's a nice step, but I wish they'd embrace it more
@@jwbowen next step is fully open sourced hardware .. that would be awesome
Shout out to Valve for being pro right to repair. It's genuinely refreshing to see a company show you step-by-step how to replace parts AND mention that you'll be able to purchase replacement parts from them directly in the future.
I was worried you had to use a heat gun on the screen in order to gain access to internals
Not only that, but explaining exactly why third-party components might cause issues, without explicitly saying so. So anybody who'd provide steamdeck repairing services would know what to do. No need for walled gardens this way, and you get the same level of quality.
@@zergslayer69 Oh god... I remember doing a shell swap in my Nintendo Switch Lite and the idea terrified me. It worked out great, but still.
Schematics or die
Probably because they are a software company, not a hardware company. They cant sell you games if your stick fails, and your can't get a whole new deck instead of just replacing the thumb stick.
Not only did they not glue everything together for no reason: They had the guts to do their *own* teardown video. And on top of that they alluded to being able to get replacement parts. They may not be doing it perfectly, but this definitely puts them well ahead of like 99% of consumer electronics companies in terms of respecting right to repair.
Why are you making our like this revolutionary or something. Console companies have been doing teardown videos for a while now and they didn't spend the entire time whining and telling people constantly not to because they are too stupid not to kill themselves. Worst video I have seen in a while. What a bore.
@@Berserkism This piece of tech is a little bit more complicated than your playstation 4.
**Louis Rossmann nods in approval*
I wouldn't be too sure about replacement parts. Valve has a history of abandoning there hardware products...
It's probably due to the founding philosophy that started them, modifying
Apple: designing their hardware specifically to be impossible to repair in any way
Valve: "Here's a Tutorial how you can troubleshoot your Steam Deck Hardware properly, but be careful."
Here at valve we do not reccomend this unless you know EVERYTHING but fuck it bro its your property
more like: "Heres a tutorial to potentially risk your life"
@@kapa_nitori what is so risky? When you remove the battery, all of the electricity will be removed.
@@chrisi7127 if you dont it might blow up
@@kapa_nitori I mean they specifically teach you how not to die in this video
I mean, I like the fact that they said “fuck it. We’re warning you big time to not do this but it’s not like we can stop you, so if you really want to and you know what you’re doing then sure, go ahead! Just don’t say we didn’t warn you.”
lo
Hell, half this video is just them warning us.
It's like how good parenting works.
It's also major bum covering if someone does do something stupid and injure themselves etc. Then try it on in a litigious manner.
Public proclamation of yes, but here's why you shouldn't.
maybe many people was thinking about changing parts to better performance. it's still like a portable pc.
I love Valve, you guys are literally the best, instead of locking everything down and hiding all the design documents. You freaking make a video showing how to safely work on the steam deck even though you suggest customers don't mess with it. I love the freedom and, as a Linux user, the amazing Linux support throughout the years. Keep up the amazing work guys!!
Facts!
Just keep in mind not to idolize them too much
@@nikkoa.3639 It's what happening already in this comment section though, literally blinded
@@nikkoa.3639 True. I love Valve for how pro-consumer they are being with the steam deck, but another part of me is a little spiteful for what they did to Half Life fans and TF2 fans.
@@energeticyellow1637 they did nothing to half life fans and tf2 is from 2007
"We're not saying you should do that, we're just saying you can do that"
-Jeremy Clarkson
"Cock" -James May
Exactly.
@@nailinstick8956 shut up Jams
His genius is almost frightening...!
@@francisportugal5584 The speed is a lot mate
This is an transparency is an insanely smart marketing tactic from Valve, and a pretty respectable one at that. Really hard to get both of those things right, nice job guys.
I love how they specifically show how to replace the joysticks, especially after all the shade directed at Nintendo.
"Did your joysticks break? Don't worry, you *don't* have to buy a completely different console, you can just replace it like this!"
@@ToniMorton i am prettttyyy sure it is because you removed the screws and not designed to be like that. Also i dont think valve would make it "design" it that hard to make it unuseable. Though they definitely will not, since there will be a lot of criticism there.
Wait isn’t there a program to just send your joycons to Nintendo and they can fix it for no cost except shipping
@@monkeyarch7510 yep there is
@@ToniMorton ...That's just natural, not designed that way, no?... How could you prevent that?
@@monkeyarch7510 isn't that America only?
Infinite amount of respect for you guys. WELL DONE
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@@reecesx Do you even know what a legal disclaimer is to avoid lawsuits?
when wil u do fortnyt videos
@@reecesx they showed what’s inside the steam deck so no one has to die making a mistake
@@reecesx wow
THANK YOU for not soldering in the thumb stick. Knowing recent controllers, the sticks are bound to catch a drift, if you catch my drift. Steam deck made it infinitely easier for average consumer to replace stick when it eventually fails. They are also providing replacement sticks, awesome!!! Love you guys, don't change.
My playStation 1 thumbsticks are fine. Are they signaling theirs are bound to fail??
SuperFinGuy your playstation 1 thumbsticks will eventually die it’s just a matter of when
@@SuperFinGuy my ps1 controller has no drift in the right stick, lots of it in the left.
They claim to have put some serious work into durability of the sticks after having issues with the ones on the Knuckles.
@@SuperFinGuy And how long have you been using it? I’ve got three 20 ish year old PS2 controllers, two of them have control sticks which are very loose and crusty. The one that is working is an aftermarket controller, and even it has a split cable sheath. Use it enough and it will wear out. That’s why having replacement parts are nice. “Lifetime” parts only lasts as long as the manufacturer’s intended lifetime, which may be just one console generation.
Can we just acknowledge that Valve made the thumb stick "easy to remove"? Moves like these are why I still have respect for Valve.
Isnt the stick one of the first thing that takes notable damage?
@@DuxAT yeah, so its good to make it easily replaceable
@@DuxAT yup, which is why it's good for it to be easily replaceable since wherever the 200+pound bald monkey interacts with things is where they're most likely to break
Unfortunatly the battery is still glued down and doesn't appear to even have a strip the help pull it out and the battery is the main definitly will fail and it'll only take a year or two if you use it a lot part.
Wow. I feel so much respect for Valve making this: giving us all the information we need and acknowledging that our property is ours while also cautioning people against unwise decisions so they don't break their Steam Deck. They're doing the right thing. Why can't more companies just do the right thing?
i wonder the exact same thing all the time
i don't get this 'be evil' trend among companies
They could get sued
Could be multiple things, but usually it's obv more money for companies if people don't know what they are doing and breaking stuff themselves, one fine example could be even apple blatantly scamming their own customers adding fake charges on repairs, but that comes with a balance, valve are entering a big competition by allowing tampering and even essentially giving a guide, brings lots of reputation and people switching over, honesty in business also pays off, if done smart.
@@cghbv1585 but they warned you
@@cghbv1585 no
I'm so happy Valve is on the side of right to repair. I'm probably never gonna do any of this myself, but it's nice to know that people who know what they're doing have some documentation on hand now.
Louis Rossman will probably be pleased
Schematics or die
@oky will you shut up now?
@@houghwhite411 yeah except if the suppliers refuse to give schematics
@@mubelotix you report for spam, it's a bit more effective than "shut up" lol annoying asf though for sure
"Remember, if you have followed these directions correctly, you've done absolutely NONE of the preceding steps..." : Priceless !! Nice work Valve thanks !
That had me cracking up. Not enough love for that line.
I dont get it, what does it mean?
@@MrRisdar it means if you were following their directions, you didn’t open up your Steam Deck as recommended by Valve.
I don't get it... Is it about opening it super carefully and being able to deny that you opened it, for warranty? Or is it about if you actually rewound time like they do in the vid, you literally would not have opened it in the first place? Or just that it is actually physically impossible to do these steps in reverse, and so if you think you did exactly that, you're wrong?
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@@Trisador9 you are overthinking, its about the first thing they said :)
Valve: "It's your property, your choice"
Apple: "What kind of sorcery is this?!"
@doliio volay just kidding bro,
Valve aren't perfect and Apple did pretty good products too
Nintendo: WAIT NO YOU CANT DO THAT
What bloody magic is this ?!
-Apple
@@shim2822 - *Samsung in the background just holding 2 thumbs up*
"It's your property your choice"
Apples gets aneurism with those words
Oh, you broke your iphone screen?
you have no option but to buy another one; repairing it is illegal, we don't sell new parts and it will void your warranty
Because Apple is Greedy, they don't want other to fixed it for cheaper price
No they don't. Valve is using the same scare tactics Apple uses. They're just far more subtle about it.
@@josh-rz3uq based josh
Steam games aren't technically yours, you are just paying to access their content. You know, just food for thought.
Consumer-friendliness like this makes me want Valve to make a phone.
Techinically, since Steam Deck is a PC, you can just use Google Voice & treat Steam Deck like a phone... But I know what you're saying, a device that also dedicates itself as a phone, so it won't be awkward as to use Steam Deck as a phone. But it's great that it's even possible that anyone willing can use Steam Deck as a phone.
@@CS2architecture Idk about using this chungus as a phone, but yeah, it is just a PC
I feel like that'd be a waste. valve is kinda unique cause they have such a prominent company, yet they're not publicly traded, and they have almost infinite money because of their massive income and small workforce. this allows them to take risks that would just be arguably illegal if they had to answer to investors. something as generic as a phone would not be the right use.. unless it was really out there. also it doesn't really synergize with their chart of income, unless steam wanted to enter the mobile space. but I think valve is more interested in growing with pc than growing beyond pc.
Better them than Epic. Can you imagine what an Epic's phone would be like? Barely functional MVP... just like that store of theirs.
Imagine Valve would create a phone, I Invision it as an expanded version the steam phone app with steamOS features.
Design wise it would have a hard plastic body for durability, removable back, 4k-5k mah removable battery, sd card slot*, fingerprint scanner, modern networking, basic sensors 3.5mm audio,dual front firing speakers, basic front and back camera, usbc, 6" 1080p LCD at 90hz or 120hz*
It will only boil down on how valve would want it to be as niche possible, is they put a galvanized android in there then a sd card is a no brainer, but if they put a mobile version of steamOS they could probably run away with it only having an internal storage.
In terms of functionality, it could be valve's gateway to the mobile market, selling mobile curated apps through their own store, imagine having a mobile version of wallpaper engine, it could have a potential for steam to transition from a game store and a game community to gamer space(gaming social media), community forums, profiles, chatrooms, marketplace, let's see if they could add 3rd party apps such as twitch, youtube, spotify heck why not twitter, authenticate steam with the use of biometrics.
In terms of feature we gamers only want the good stuff and the others just okay but not terrible, cameras are good but not as good compared to a flagship one, I still have no idea what would the storage part would be 64,128,512??? It could do what the steam deck could do but it isn't as fast because it's only running on a SOC.
Thats pretty much my take on SteamMobile* a niche product and a watered down version of the steam deck.
There are some drawbacks,it could have some or hardly any text and call features it's probably for the betterment of the industry since discord, facetime and messaging apps are a thing, you wouldn't want to lose that device since it got your authentication, we don't want to lose that progress, games we spend time and money, remove that gaming stuff about it and it's just another one of those dumb phones.
I'm going to do all of this.
don't forget to apply the peanut butter to the ssd to help with cooling performance
Hey is this a filling machine?
Filling machine superiority gang
Will there be a video for that
you should parody this video lol
It's like a crazy high school science teacher going:
"Solidified salt bombs are highly dangerous and literally explode when it contact with water. Here's how to make it!"
valve is like that uncle who give you candies and chocolate despite mom said no snack after dinner and said "don't let your parents know"
JESSE! WE NEED SALT JESSE!
Люди, берите версию на 64 гб, и покупайте ссд, и ставте ссд, и все чики пуки.
@@Yupi_mun Facts. If you don't care about the accessories that come with the higher capacity models, buying the cheapest one and upgrading the SSD yourself is the way to go.
That also sounds like ChatGPT.
YO THANKS VALVE FOR LETTING PEOPLE REPAIR INSTED OF REPLACE
They literally said to not do it wdym.
@@con6911 they said not to do it but showed that it can still be done, at least theyre not anticonsumer like apple and trying to make it impossible
@@con6911 They said *you* shouldn't do it. Get it to a repair service that will do it right.
@@con6911 They warned you not to do it. That's different than just flat out saying "don't do it". If they believed in the latter, this video wouldn't exist.
@con
That message is for consoomers like you. Non-computer-illiterate folks are rightly praising the openness of the design and hardware
"The Valve Corporation would like to remind you, that modifying the Valve Steam Deck, can, and will, lead to: electrocution, second degree chemical burns, death, and most notably, voiding the warranty of the Valve Steam Deck."
"Please make sure under no circumstances t--*radio static*"
i tried to read that in GlaDOS' voice
Guy grabs the camera *
Reveals to be actually Gman
Gman : Or there will be unforseen consequences . . .
Well, they said that damaging it will, modifing or opening it won't
Voiding the warranty if opened is illegal for companys to do in America
@@Mantis_Toboggan Yes, I know that, it doesn't stop them from putting does stupid stickers that say it voids it
Every tech channel: "I hope I can take apart the steam deck when it arrives"
Valve: "Oh don't worry I'll do it"
like the chads they are
I'm almost crying thats how happy it makes me to see a tech giant release an offisal dissassembly video AND saying that replacement parts are an option. Valve got a place in my heart
"Don't disassemble it"
"Here's how to disassemble it"
lmao, seriously though, cool to have a guide for maintenance if you really want to do it from the experts themselves.
The "dont disassemble it" is for liability. They obviously want you to disassemble it, otherwise they would have glued it shut
timestamp where it says “don’t dissasemble it”?
@@AkariInsko 5:10 is them flat out saying their instructions are to not disassemble the device. it's literally in the video thumbnail
@@Shotblur the thumbnail says “you shoudn’t do this”
@@Shotblur it doesn’t say “don’t do this”
"It's your PC, you have every right to open it"
hear that nintendo
And Apple, too!
@@DevilsRadvocate Nintendo pretty much is the Apple of gaming console producers. lol
Nintendo: Sowri, I no sepeak Engrish.
@@sechabatheletsane9784 *Sow wry, Ai no Speaku Engrish
And yet the switch is like one of their easier devices to open and service.
Nintendo has been greasey but not when it comes to repairing- in fact its all mostly modular
The fact that the grate isn't shaped like the aperture logo is a missed opportunity
"For replacing the battery on any of our devices you'll need this special tool called spudger and a heatgun, but you'll want to have precise control otherwise you'll explode the battery."
not yet final hardware
Not too hard to 3d print another back with the back having the aperture logo XD
@@sam11182 what about getting a 3d printer or something lmao
@@Reznovelty You can send designs to a local 3D print shop or order them from Etsy.
I like how open Valve is being with their product. Unlike Nintendo. When I get a Steam Deck and the sticks start drifting if they do that. I’ll know how to fix it! Also modders are going to have a field day with the Deck when it releases! Thanks for this video Valve!
don't fix it yourself, unless you _really_ know what you're doing
remember the "Unless you really feel like taking big risks with your property, and your life, which could end if you do this wrong." line
@@griss295 im just happily waiting for my death so no problem
@@griss295 It's not as dangerous as they say it is, they're just being careful. Replacing those components is about as dangerous and difficult as doing so in any PC is.
side note: love your pfp! didnt expect to see an aro flag in the wild lol
@@Zebo12345678 yeah the "you could die" part is similar to the warning labels in products. It's just to idiotproof your lawsuit, most people that will do this will do it successfully
This video is so transparent and relaxed that I didn't realize it came from the Valve megacorporation itself. The Goofy edits made me think it was just some engineer UA-camr who accidentally blew himself up with the Steam Deck and is now trying to warn us
@@CameronBrownCB So, they're just a cool enterprise.
@@GumSkyloard woah there lets slow down a bit, dont wanna go too far there bud
>transparent
>You may die if you open this
Tbh they might actually blew themselves up beforehand lmao
@@ShihammeDarc how is this false?
I love how Valve started off as a group of modders so the entire company respects modding and allows it with all of their products.
>Just discovered steam workshop
Well done genius. Nice to know Half life was a mod.
@@user-vp6cq4sv3d it was done on a mod of engine, so he's theoretically correct.
@@barmaley8033 A game engine is just middleware. That’s like saying any game using unreal engine is a mod of the original unreal. Don’t be daft.
@@FunningRast GoldSrc is a modified Quake engine, they were still modding even if it wasn't a game.
@@FunningRast bruh
I'm beyond in love with how accessible the thumb sticks are. That is probably the single component that may need swapping above all else (fingers crossed not) and Valve appear to have made it an easy and up front kind of swap.
The battery looks buried in there though which is basically a complete interest-killer. That *will* stop taking a charge, and you *will* have to replace it.
@@keiyakins looks easy enough ngl. It is quite under there but eh
@@keiyakins When the big yellow circle is on the battery, it's clear that there is a pull tab on the battery assembly at the bottom right corner of it. I think you're assuming things, and it looks like replacing the battery will be simple. Why would they make the unit user-serviceable and show videos of it and then not let you order and replace the battery with a new one?
What do you mean, buried? It’s under two ribbon cables, the connectors for both of which are easily accessible. I can’t tell if it’s glued in, but just getting to the battery seems trivial.
@@keiyakins you shouldn't open it up then, leave it to professional
God I wish all companies were just this straight forward, open and honest.
It's a breath of fresh air.
This. This is tech-parenting win - "we don't recommend doing this, but we also can't stop you. So if you're going to, here's how not to die"
Major props Valve!
HAHAHA
Damn son.
A company taking a device apart to their customers. Jesus. This is holy. You guys really are amazing.
Did you forget Sony doing this with the PS5?
Valve is good but a lot of companies do that lol.
Did you see Sony did that like year ago with the ps5? (before the reason and beta console)?
@@ghostisblack i guess i forgotten something that i never learned lol (not trying to be rude)
@@vendybirdsvadl7472 I wasnt talking to you, so you can delete your comment and take a hike.
Valve: Look at all these people breaking NDA... Someone's bound to open it up and show the internals.
Someone else at Valve: What if we did it for them?
(everyone like that )
@@reecesx These kinds of videos are still miles in the right direction. Even with all the dev kits in people's hands, and the obvious leaks that are going to happen, Valve could have easily gone with an Apple approach. People who open their machines and fix things on their own either don't have the means to replace/pay to repair their devices, or are experienced enough to be confident to work on it. Both of these categories are massive minorities in they're advertised market. They still chose to show their consumer openly on how to fix vital and high wear parts. This is the right direction for where we are at.
@@PersonMeetup fair points by both of you but there's no excuse to fear mongering.
@@reecesx information monopoly? How's it being a monopoly? It's not like anyone can't open their SteamDeck when it arrives.
Voiding the NDA is so much cheaper and easier than suing everyone who violates it
The good thing about this video is that it shows that they are willing to provide repair details to professionals. Sure, most people won't be able to do this stuff properly, but maybe they have a friend who can do it for them on the cheap, or for free.
You guys have my respect.
1. For Making a repairable product and not gluing everything up or just straight up preventing repairs.
2. Linux gaming & Proton / Steam Play
3. For Making Half-Life
4. Making Steam. You guys helped many gamers who used to pirate for the sake of convenience by Centralizing and managing the Game Library. Prior to Steam, we had to store & protect discs and other shenanigans to preserve it and so on.
I cyrogenically froze half life just in case though so that future civilization can still enjoy valve titles.
"You have every right to open it up and do what you want"
Absolute chad move Valve.
Valve really seems to know their audience!
yet they scare you into thinking a lithium battery can kill you and lying that removing the screws will forever ruin the structural integrity of the case which will prevent most people from ever opening it up
@@visceraeyes525 it'll prevent people who don't know what they're doing from opening it up, which is a good thing
@@Ariel_emerald how is that good
@@visceraeyes525 it covers valve's ass from lawsuits and accidents due to customer stupidity, protects customers from the few true situations in which opening the device could be unsafe, and creates business for repair shops
When putting back self tapping screws gently go backwards (counter clockwise) till you feel a click, then proceed to tighten clockwise. Greatly reduces the chance of ripping up the threads.
Thank you Franlab.
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I think some other channels as well, I don't know where I got the info from but this should really be made common knowledge.
This kind of this is what makes Valve a cool company.
appreciate that you guys made this video.
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@@jessycute9516 Have a fucking life?
I wish more companies would do stuff like this. It's just thoughtful and respectful.
Right in the middle of the whole right to repair debate. You guys at Valve have an incredible sense of timing for marketing
It's marketing, but it's also the right thing to do.
yes and no?.
yes- its marketing to make them look good during this whole right to repair debate and im all for that
no- just because of this video you wont just go a buy one now anyone who was going to buy it already have it reserved and its practically impossible to try to get your hands on it now
@@night2957 it’s still good advertisement for the company and for its brand and name. Eventually the Steam Deck will become publicly available to buy on Steam; their focus now is to build a good reputation and shed good light on the product.
Sorry if the grammar of the sentences that I wrote is bad, I’m not an english native speaker.
@@night2957 My circle of friends are very much console gamers, despite this, I still have a friend who wanted to reserve a Steam Deck but is now stuck waiting for the *eventual* second batch. I'm sure a majority of the people who were interested in owning one (and willing/able to spend on it) have already done so. But there's also a good amount of people who didn't make it in time or are currently very much interested but waiting to see what us in the first batch have to say after we get our hands on it.
Also, remember that Valve may be incentivized/enthusiastic to make another piece of hardware (Steam Deck 2 or otherwise) if this does well. In the same way that the way the handled and produced the Steam Controller and Steam Machines has made people more cynical about them developing their own hardware, and in the same way that the the Index have very much helped some people be excited again, what they do all through this product's buildup and post-release will affect their ability (and enthusiasm) to sell us another piece of hardware. Staying relevant is important right now, even if people cannot actually buy anything at the moment.
Sorry for the ramble :p
@@night2957 i might just because of this
Not only are they so open to users messing with their hardware and software, I also love how they mention the safety risks and the fragility of all the parts.
This is the one of the coolest videos I have ever seen from a tech company about a product. They're not treating you like a child, instead they are educating you and informing you. They show how to do it correctly, and why you probably shouldn't. It's much better than saying don't do it, because people are going to anyway. We need more of this from manufacturers in the world (especially big phone companies *cough cough* Apple). This is a great example for how companies can approach Right to Repair as well.
The fact that the voiceover mentioned about how a replacement SSD can have a different EMI signature makes me think this video was made by a Engineer (who wasn’t oh-so-commonly hamstrung by management on what he could or could not say.)
Good guy Valve.
I think there's still a lot of that in this video though, Valve _really_ doesn't want us to replace the SSD so they're listing every reason they can come up with to discourage us, down to the EMI signature. But the simple fact that this video was still made shows that yes, they do have an engineering focus, and that's amazing.
@@DeeSnow97 they have to give out all the warnings they can in case someone sues them. But the openess and friendliness and the fact that the device can be repaired,isnt glued down is a big win. The fact they'll provide replacement parts as well is just the icing on the cake. Apple can burn in hell
@@rudrasingh6354 I will stock up on thumbsticks, I know myself. :D
@@DeeSnow97 I feel like it's kind of BS too but their SSD does have an EMI shield, I don't think I saw many or any on consumer SSD.
@@sfbptank it can be a big deal that close to the wifi module. It's very difficult to get decent wifi antenna placement in a handheld and interference is always a concern. SSDs internals can run at different frequencies, and while it might not effect it much, it could severely limit the range at which wifi acts "good"
Dude this is amazing. I wish every company was this transparrent about their product.
There are 14 screws removed in total and the underground hes working on has 2 stripes.
14-2= 12
Half of 12 is 6, which is also the number of screws closest to the left stripe. Both of those screwpiles are seperated into piles of 3.
He also used 3 tools to take the steam deck apart.
🤯 HALF LIFE 3 CONFIRMED 🤯
Valve is very subtle even irl
The best part of this is the clown pfp
How the fuck this made me laugh???!??
OK then, Monty Python
"Remember: If you have followed these directions correctly, you've done absolutely none of the preceding steps." I love it
Valve, being the company that never really speaks to us, I was never expecting this much transparency, amazing.
They the amazing quiet guy thats really cool but very lone individual, that only talks when necessary and everybody like how he shares his opinion and interact.
Yeah, that level of specificness.
They are very open with the community on modding/modifying their products.
I guess whether its software or hardware.
just don't ask them about TF2
@@MyScorpion42 ah yes, the game valve forgot existed
It's kind of as if this reputation of being so transparent, has made them afraid of speaking more often
Apple: repair yourself is heresy !
Valve: hipity hopity, this is how you disassemble your property.
but also may or may not damage your property/life
Apple: This offends me on a whole new level
Value: Hipity hopity, you fucked up your property
@@Toast10i if you can't fix it was it ever yours to begin with?
@@refroggy wise words i hear
Valve should get an award for having the best classics (You know, HL, L4D, TF, Portal and others), having the most popular platform to buy games and giving out a great repair guide for its product. 👏
"Don't open your Steam Deck." "There'll be a source for replacement thumbsticks."
So basically “we don’t recommend it but you can if you really want to”
YOU dont open it, a repair store yeah sure.
The good thing is that you got a choice
@keep rollin wtf
Replacement parts are meant for professionals to independently do it. They don't want consumers to be mislead into thinking this is some new LEGO.
The presentation style is unlike every other console maker, I adore this! Did you ever have to chuckle while screws were being turned?!
What? Sony literally have done a teardown of the PS4 and PS5 before release lmao.
bro didn't xbox and sony make identical teardown videos?
@@chollings2143 A little less identical as they didn't show drop tests as far as I remember. And less memes about straight up dying.
@@chollings2143 yeah and they didn't spend the entire video criticizing people's intelligence basically ruining the entire thing.
@@RAHelllord They aren't memeing, they're dead serious. They're trying to scare people off from replacing the components.
"We're not banging rocks together here, we know how to put a deck back together"
"You can do what you want with your steam deck, it's your property after all..."
"But, you might die..."
Ok GladOS
imagine apple making this type of video, literally impossible for this kind of company
valve is not a public company and probably has very few investors, its what allows them to do all of this genuine stuff, the moment a company sell themselves in that kind of way, the main business becomes being a profit earning company instead of an artistic game-making for money company, it was very smart to make steam since they have now both a legit profit business and a platform to make great games and products without having to drop the point entirely, making an industry giant like valve and staying that way is a very humble-ish thing, they're possibly the biggest company and the less-corrupt at the same time. god. damn. (well maybe steam is kinda sus but you get me)
Valve's market is PC gaming. They are embedded in that culture of freedom, tinkering, modding etc which defines PC.
Apple is a totally different ethos, it's less of a community conversation and more product focused.
@@Mreoewwmrow Steam is sus?
@ yet even with all those low “SPEKKS” the phone is still 60% faster than the competition
Exactly
"Try not to break your fingernail! That hurts."
Gave me Cave Johnson vibes. Love it.
Imagine this video with the Aperture science intro and Cave Johnson's voice, like the Portal 2 tutorials. That would have been so perfect
@@thelegendaryklobb2879 I NEED IT
We put more deck per deck so you don't have to worry about less deck on your deck.
It reminds me of something I say:
"Don't die, it's bad for your health!"
@@thelegendaryklobb2879 Just like they did a Portal themed Steam Controller assembly video ?
"And you have every right to open it up and do what you want"
"The warranty doesn't cover any damage that *you* do."
AKA Valve is one of the very _very_ *VERY* few companies in the world that FOLLOW THE LAW.
lol ok fanboy
This is just a nice way to tell you warranty void if device is opened. Which is nothing new.... This video is here to basically telling you "We even told you how to do it in case you still wanted to go forward with. So, if you fuck it up, IT'S 100000000% YOUR FAULT AND YOUR RESPONSIBILITY"
@@algis-kun8777 Warranties arent actually void if you open up hardware, no matter what they say, warranties are only void if you damage it yourself in the process.
@@algis-kun8777 It's them saying, "Hey, you still have warranty, but if YOU caused the damage by opening it up then we can't cover that" instead of the "WARRANTY VOID IF REMOVED" stickers (which are illegal, and also why OP said they "FOLLOW THE LAW")
@@JohnSmith-fq3rg "damage it yourself" which can totally happen while opening the device. broken covers or the plastic clips, or even short something on the motherboard just by opening the device can totally happen.
Of all laptops, one of my absolute favorites to work on was the IBM, (now Lenovo), Thinkpad series back in the early 2000's. One thing that you really had to pay attention to was the little number next to the screw holes. It told you the size of the screw that went there. In some cases, you had to pay close attention because the size difference between two screws was probably just shy of a millimeter, but if you happened to not be paying attention and put a wrong screw and it happened to be the one that was just under a millimeter too long, it would damage part of the keyboard so that only the keys on the left side would work. There was no way to fix that, so you had no choice but to order a whole new keyboard. This particular series was popular with businesses, (I think it was the T-60). I worked on quite a few of them for businesses, and I could almost immediately tell that the customer had taken it apart and, not being experienced, (at least not with that particular model), they didn't pay attention and of course lost function of half of their keys. ...And that, boys and girls, is why you should make sure you either know the system you are working on, or have very good attention to detail. -The End. 🙃😁🤪
There's a special place in my heart dedicated to ThinkPads
"It's your PC, you have every right to open it"
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...
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"But you may die"
This is why we love Valve.
cuz they're dumb?
@@yeetyeet7070 Precisely, and we love that
@@yeetyeet7070 to be fair its really tightly packed, a high end gaming pc is really hard to cram into a small switch sized case
And to be fair,even with laptops and normal pcs its still the case,if you dont know what you're doing yore fakin ded if you do something incorrectly, even if you do know what you are doing you still need to be careful
@@chillmanmax775 I didn't ask what it is.
Valve: "Definitely don't do this, you might even die."
Also Valve: "So here is how to do this."
This gives me some Aperture Science vibes and I love it.
@@theendeeminer21 lol, definately.
"hello, cave johnson. i am legally required to warn you that the following steps may kill you. with that out of the way, here is how to dismantle a steam deck."
They told me NEVER to open this Steam Deck or it might DIE.
Also here is where you can buy parts.
Guy at valve: “can I do a steam deck tear down?”
Valve: “no. The customer shouldn’t think they can open the console”
Guy at valve: “can I do a steam deck tear down if I tell them they shouldn’t open the console?”
> console
😠
Oof, I used the word console. I meant PC. My mistake.
@@Smugg no problem
@@nathanl2966 its a linux based console that can run windows and be used as a PC.
@@francez123456789 it can run Linux and still be used as a pc. They even have a desktop mode
I remember in the USSR you would get schematics for any product you got which enabled you to either fix it yourself or take them to a repair shop who could use them to help you fix it. If you wonder how so many ppl in Eastern Bloc countries kept old stuff for so long /outside of assumptions/, that's one of the reasons why. I always felt that this should become a standard in the modern world. If you request the schematics you should be given them and ideally also a video like this. I feel like Valve is taking the first step forward in that.
Valve is gaining every day more and more respect from me as the company, imagine if other big tech companies are less evil :)
This is what it's like to not be publicly traded.
valve is a lazy pos
what about tf2?
What about the droid attack on the wookies
@@5tone_10 lmao what
The fact that Valve actually made this video makes me want to buy a Steam Deck.
Me too
That's the idea ;)
t h a t ' s t h e p o i n t
Same
Same
A tremendous amount of respect goes out to Valve. They've changed the landscape entirely in multiple areas on more than one occasion- and this is no exception. Very excited to get my paws on one of these.
Apple: breaks phones on purpose
Valve: HERE'S A SCREWDRIVER, HAVE FUN
That's a right to repair stance if I've ever seen one.
WARN the user, don't prevent the user.
"don't break a finger nail"..... riveting stuff.
iFixit seen in a corner, muttering to themselves, "but that's our job......"
Thank you Valve, for being so up-front about all of this. Super excited for December!
Well, they recommended more than once to let professionals do the job
ifixit and valve are on the same team
One of the most interesting parts about this video was the shots of the drop tests and stuff. The thing looks solid
Yes, but why does taking it apart "immediately" reduce the structural integrity? If this is strictly true, then these cannot be repaired without reducing said structural integrity. So what happens if you send for warranty? While I applaud them for making a teardown(well sort of), but the fear tactics and comments like the first one I mentioned makes me want to cancel my pre-order. Framework they are not.
@@marcdukette5095 Any product using self-tapping screws or any piece of plastic that snaps-in to keep it closed will have the plastic become weaker due to the fatigue of repeating that process. It's really inevitable with those, and making a cost-effective product without them is plenty hard.
To be honest, I can think of few devices where this isn't the case, short of parts that are meant to be opened. It's just not obvious to people who don't know about the details of this type of industrial design.
just cancel your pre-order then. spoiler alert, no one cares.
@@lxnerboi4636 Wow Fan boy much!? I threw in an honest reaction to this video. I didn't realize this was a everyone must Kiss their *** channel.
@VarenRoth, thank you for the polite response, yes I understand. I guess in my own way I was pointing out to people that if(When) you need to have this repaired you suffer the same degradation, not just if you do it yourself.
again while I applaud them for this teardown, it reeks of fear tactics. While they don't come out and say "this will void your warranty", since that's illegal, they imply it at more than one point in the video.
Either way I will move on and whether I buy one of these or not this is obviously not the channel to discuss the pros and cons of this system.
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Massive props to Valve, still legally dodging responsibility if you damage something by saying "hey, you probably shouldn't do this", but still providing the info regardless.
Well done, you've made that wired ESD strap as effective as a wireless one! I want my steam deck soon though.
Someone else noticed too! In this case it's only the gloves that are providing antistatic protection.
I loved the oops edit lmao
I doubt it matters, if the ESD strap can't be effective through the glove then probably any static charge won't either
@@movitoviscyrinxed446 it just ensures that any static shock will be of sufficient level to have an impact. Although touching a sharp solder point could damage the gloves enough to render their insulation useless in the fingers.
These gloves are likely ESD safe vinyl gloves. Just like in some factories you are required to wear ESD safe shoes that does not prevent you from being grounded to the standing mat at your workstation.
As such they actually even out the potential between them and you and then through the wristband to the potential grounding.
Not all "plastics/Polymers" are the same :)
Valve is one of those rare companies that doesn't think their customers are complete idiots. Props to them (and please make more Half-Life stuff).
More like "valve knows it has some customers that aren't complete idiots, and many more who are but believe they are not."
@@ridokilos-actual People too dumb to do these repairs probably won't bother looking up this video.
@@KBergs Yes. They clearly did this for disclaimer and accountability purposes.
It's because valve takes surveys from steam users and I'm guessing from that they can tell how many people actually know what their doing. From just looking at someone's PC build you can tell a lot about them.
Man I wish could be said about there games. Not that their games are bad (even Ricochet)
This is actually a really clever way to both absolve yourself of end-user idiocy ("we REALLY don't recommend you do this, and if you boop it up, it's on you"), while also showing those that are going to do it anyway, the _right_ way to do it _safely_ to minimize the chance of them doing it wrong. I like this, more companies should do this kind of thing.
omg, I just realized this was a legit Valve video and not just your average device disassembly youtubers, massive prompts to Valve for being the absolute king of a company that it is!
In a world where the easy-to-break parts are soldered on, they at least had the sense to make it modular. Props to valve for thumbstick replaceability, what's always irked me with modern controllers is the fact they're soldered into the board.
However, I will give them crap for the self-tapping screws, it could be because of cost but I'm still kind of irked by that
Could be for the stability.
They sort of expect that it's gonna get dropped by their users. Even says that "Opening the case weakens it"
Probably tested a ton of configurations and decided on self tapping ones for most friction for holding the case together.
Just a guess though, I could be talking out of my ass for all I knoiw.
@@SollowP Most non-tapping screws I've seen (laptops and handhelds) need metal standoffs in the shell to thread - that being separate to the case housing adds a point of stress when impacts happen, causing the plastic holding the standoff to crack and come free.
@@SollowP Indeed is for stability under fall or crash situations, far better than other types of screws. The downside is that they can only be reopened and re-attached only a few times before the juction is damaged. So doing a dissasembly should be dome as a last resort thing, or by authorized Valve guys. Then again, is your property alright.
I think the self taping screw are honestly fine. A ton of other design would have glue or clipping assemby that you cant access once fitted. Sure, annoying, but decent. I'd love to know if the battery is glued though. I'm not actually sure, but isn't the IO on the top also in a separate module ? The ribbon going to it makes me think so.
If that's the case and the battery isn't glued, that's three of the most common problems of that type of device addressed (IO, sticks and battery, the last being the screen, which, I assume is a pain to change considering the design),
@@terramap2902 Self-tapping screws have been used in electronics for a long time (NES and Commodore 64 come to mind), if you're careful to make sure it's lined-up correctly to the factory thread, you can remove and rethread it plenty of times without issue.
This isn't something you'll be doing more than a couple times in the consoles lifespan, you'll be fine in that case.
I'm so glad there's still a company that supports owners' right to do/fix their properties on their own, and they actually support it by providing the part to replace.. Mad respect, can't wait to get my steam deck!!
Probably can build your own with the parts they can provide.
Though it *CAN* be more expensive to buy up individual parts and build yourself than if you were to just buy the item at market price.
edit: plus not a recommendation either, knowing you can screw up at any time and everything goes out the window.
@@LevenLappi Considering how much steam deck is custom built? Yeah, absolutely would not recommend unless you REALLY know what you're doing.
It's pretty much "This is yours, you do whatever you want, but.. please, *please* take care of it, alright?"
You know, I might actually buy a steam deck now knowing I'll actually own it and be able to possibly fix hardware issues if needed, or even just take it apart and put it together in something else and reuse the parts.
Big props to you guys.
The fact that valve will let people buy the official or endorsed parts with no restriction is a huge step in right to repair. Fucking love these engineers and all of the steam deck team
Valve: "This is how to fix it!"
Apple: *adds software which prevents you from fixing anything yourself*
Every part has a signature code and an authorised repair is just sending your phone away and getting back a different one. Which is why you back up your data.
I don't even understand why people buy such phones to begin with...
@@forevercomputing but why would you add more hardware to parts just to stopp repairs?
@@kidmosey it actually doesn't prevent hardware mods. it's entirely to make you buy a whole ass new iPhone. you can also still jail break the newer iphones too...
@@forevercomputing you can replace anyway your iphone display, battery, camera, backcover, speaker, charging port, and they will all work. In the newers they may send a notification, in the others not, but that's it, they work
It's really cool that even though they don't recommend doing this, and they advice the risks to their users. Valve doesn't try to hide the information about how we could repair it if we wish. Huge props for that, this is what every company should do, treat their users like with respect, and don't hide information about how to fix the product they bought.
I mean they gonna do it anyways. So might as well be up front about it. Unlike apple.
I love how they got the engineer from TF2 to be on camera for us all
“now let’s put it back together”
*pulls out wrench*
Erecting a steam deck.
"Spy is sappin' my steam deck!"
@Tf2 enthusiast NOOOOOO
*killbinds*
This video is literally “you should absolutely not try taking your steam deck apart under any circumstances, but we know some people aren’t going to heed our warnings no matter how we say it anyway, so here is how you don’t kill yourself or your console while you do it.” And I love that
This is why Valve stands out as the best company in the space. Huge creds to Valve for this.
Valve performs some of the worst anti-consumer practices on the internet thanks to its monopoly as a marketplace. Hardly the best.
@Leo n. the Actman did a pretty good video documenting Valve's offenses, while going through the overall history of the company as a trailblazer
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@@itarH "I can't refute any of the points made in the video, so I'll just come up with some flimsy reason to avoid engagement."
@@FolstrimHori if someone plays league of legends their opinion actually doesn't matter
@@armageddongirl612 "I can't refute any of the points made in the video, so I'll just come up with some flimsy reason to avoid engagement."
Apple: "noooo you can't open our products you have to buy a new one"
valve: "your machine, your rules and here's a guide on how to do it"
stuff like this makes me love valve even more
I think valve contradicts themselves though. They are telling you you should not open this or you could die in which in my opinion causes confusion. if I need to open something to replace a component (resistor, capacitor, battery, SSD) I'm gonna do it to get it working again!
i think by "you should not open this" they meant "you shouldn't open it just to see what's inside but if you're having problems then you can because it's your device and here's how to do it"
@@EdnovStormbrewer they meant that it is not recommended to open it because of the risks associated with it.
@@EdnovStormbrewer ever heard the phrase "even if you could, doesn't mean you should" ?
like they totally ok with thr owners tinkering with the device, they just said some precautions like it can be dangerous and can void the warranty.
@@EdnovStormbrewer if you consider yourself to be smart enough to open a device to repair it, I also think you should be able to understand that this video is not for the avarage tech enthusiast but for little Johnny at home that got this for Christmas and tried to replace his thumbstick
Really happy to hear you guys say that you'll share ways to get replacement parts and how to fix the steam deck. Feels in line with right-to-repair and I am thankful for that. Thank you to the team for their hard work!
I love this mentality. "We don't want you to do this for these reasons, but it is you own it and you can do whatever you want with it. If you are going to, here is how to do it safely."
I wish companies were all like this. So many products are designed with the intent to make it as difficult as possible for a user to edit or customize what they own. Especially with phones which have new cases and custom parts that make it impossible to self-repair.
The steam deck is such a cool piece of hardware, I can only imagine it was incredibly fun to design and optimize.
- "Remember to wear an ESD strap"
- Wears it outside a glove.
Well, at least you in text mentioned it's wrong though. :p
Nice little guide tbh, would've loved a more complete teardown, but I guess Ifixit will get one out as soon as they get their hands on the device. GG, Valve.
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Not only was he wearing the strap atop a glove, they were doing the work on a non-ESD surface.
I thought it was just me. I kept thinking hey its not touching flesh , that glove looks like an insulator...
@@paulbastow2190 It's an ESD surface. I have a similar surface that is ESD with a spot to clip onto. He's also got the backside of the snap touching his wrist. The glove is pulled up under his wrist: ua-cam.com/video/Dxnr2FAADAs/v-deo.html
Glad the Steam Deck didn't blow up :p
This, puts a smile on my face. I'm not getting a Deck rn but I'm just happy this exists and i hope it's a success, showing other companies that you can be profitable and customer friendly at the same time.
"Your Steam Deck could kill you."
Why, thank you, Gabe 🐧
Sounds like a feature to me :)
Please be advised that the Valve Steam Deck will never threaten to stab you, and, in fact, cannot speak.
Aw yes thanks gabe for giving us a console/pc hybrid that could kill us
As usual with any device with a lithium based battery, mishandling can kill you (That's why any manufacturer that allows rooting a phone warn you before giving the code that unlocks the device, that the device can kill you if miusconfigured and they will they will ignore any type of guarantee or responsibility for any lethal injury caused by this). Any sold phone since 10-15 years ago comes with this warning in small letters, but like licenses and other documents, most people just never read them. Valve at least is pretty clear about it, so they comes as classy for doing so.
@@terramap2902 I'm not mocking Valve btw, it's all fun. Got my Steam Deck preordered. Q1 2022 gang!
Apple: *"what, you want to replace your iphone battery? WELL YOU CAN'T! stop being entitled and buy our $700 pc wheels."*
Valve: *"so anyways here's how you open it up, you might die but at least you can do it."*
„PC Wheels“ I swear to god if this is an actual product…
@@samsamsamuelsamsamsamtheio8445 yeah didn't the mac pro have some expensive wheels? and don't forget that one $1000 stand for an imac