Reaction to SABATON - Fields of Verdun (Official Music Video)
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- Опубліковано 26 гру 2021
- Reaction to SABATON - Fields of Verdun (Official Music Video)
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Tolkien was a British soldier in ww1 and served in the battle of the Solm, his personal experiences in war and brotherhood of soldiers far from home deeply informed how he wrote, for example, the relationship between Frodo and Sam.
Battle of the Somme, not Solm.
@@hornet07able yea I figured that I had probably misspelled it it’s been a long time since I last saw the word written out. Thanks for the correction. :)
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The man in Luke 16:24 cries: ". . .I am tormented in this FLAME."
In Matthew 13:42, Jesus says: "And shall cast them into a FURNACE OF FIRE: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."
In Matthew 25:41, Jesus says: "Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting FIRE,. . ."
Revelation 20:15 says, " And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the LAKE OF FIRE."
@@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269 true that :)
German command: the battle is going as planned, we're bleeding the french dry.
French command: yeah. No.
I've never heard of specifically father and son, but it's very likely
In WW1 the platoons were sorted via hometown in hopes of increasing brotherhood and loyalty, so neighbours and families would fight together in the same battles
Because of this, if the trenches they were stationed were overrun or their offensive countered, some villages lost nearly their entire adult male populations overnight
Correct. This happened during the early days of the war, and this exact thing is why the military during the middle and later parts of the war started to split up family groups and village groups, to avoid such a fate.
@@suntiger745 Along with the Sullivan brothers incident.
If I remember correctly, you can find online about villages in England that were considered “blessed” or even “doubly blessed” (maybe not the exact wording) where there were some villages that we lucky not to lose a single person in one or even both World Wars. There were obviously not a lot, but they exist. Also, everyone is correct. World War 1 is the reason why It is no longer a practice in any major country’s military to group together soldiers from the same towns or even regions when possible in order to minimize casualties and prevent the male populations of towns and villages from being quickly wiped out.
Yes the british did that at the beginning of the war but not sure about the french and certainly not in 1916 (during the battle of Verdun). "Father and son" in this case is most likely an image. A way to say that every man was mobilized to defend the country. Fathers and sons.
@@MichaelJones-mc7ud I live near Verdun and you can "see" a few villages that are *completely* razed, but still have their entrance and exit signs, and even have honorary mayors to remember those people
You *can't* buy or work on lands dozens of km around because they are deemed unrecoverable for life
You can see hills that seems natural, but are made because of millions of shells bombarding the same place again and again
Every so often you can see empty (or full) shells, cartridges, helmets, etc..
In fact, it's strictly illegal to go for a walk outside of paths that are deemed safe, and even then, some dangers can resurface sometimes
It's illegal to walk with a metal detector, you're 99% sure to meet face to face with something that might make you go into orbit
You can see on google maps the color and altimetry difference like night and day
The land will have those scars for as long as Earth exist
People should realize that, and if it's not enough, one trip to the litteral *fields* of crosses, ossuaries and almost intact trenches for kilometers *will* make people realize
Every step you take on these lands, hundreds, if not thousands of people died.
It's a weird realization, like walking on bones, remnants of people fighting for your liberty.
This is becoming one of my favorite songs. The lines "Nowhere to run, Father and son fall one by one" describe how brutal the battle was. Congratulations on your new baby girl by the way.
Tolkien did fight in the Battle of the Somme in 1916. On 27 October 1916, as his battalion attacked Regina Trench, shortly after that attack he got Trench Fever and many of his close friends were killed. he was pulled from the line after that his unit (11th Battalion, Lancashire Fusiliers) was almost wiped out. he was stationed on the home front for the rest of the war. and he started his writing. and he did draw from many of the events from that war
Fun fact: French ww2 general and future president Charles de Gaulle served in the Battle of Verdun as a corporal where he would crawl through no mans land and listen to the Germans talking in their trenches. About a month after the battle started he was injured and taken prisoner.
farther and son refers to that due to the duration of the battle of verdun(10 months) most soldiers managed to serve at the battle of verdun with above 700k total casualties(both french and german) the farthers and later the sons served in the battle of verdun
edit: the french army had a rotational system so you would serve x amount of time then be rotated out and maybe later rotate into verdun again
And i don't know for the others countries, but any french between 20 and 40 yers old could be mobilized. so while statistically improbable, a father and his son could be in the trench together
@@josephguillerey4391 18 to 60
@@MrCracou true, i looked at the numbers from 1914, by Verdun it had been extended
Verdun was an absolute, unrelenting bloodbath. If you ever want to read more into it (and what other battles were like on the Western Front), there's a book I very strongly recommend called "Poilu."
It's the compilation of the notebooks/memoirs from Corporal Louis Barthas, a French corporal who served nearly the entire duration of the war from 1914 to 1918, in virtually every major battle on the Western Front that France was involved in, and somehow managed to make it out alive. And boy does he not mince words or try to soften any of it up.
"At my feet two unlucky creatures rolled the floor in misery. Their clothes and hands, their entire bodies were on fire. They were living torches. [The next day] In front of us on the floor the two I had witnessed ablaze, lay rattling. They were so unrecognisably mutilated that we could not decide on their identities. Their skin was black entirely. One of them died that same night. In a fit of insanity the other hummed a tune from his childhood, talked to his wife and his mother and spoke of his village."
Ver-done =Verdun and The battle of Passchendale became the iconic representation of the nightmarish meat grinder that was WW1 plus WW1 wiped out entire generations of young boys all nations in some cases entire towns lost all their young men.
Yeah JRR Tolkien served in ww1, and he was in general very inspired by historical events of the real world, for instance both the Rohirrim charges at Helm's Deep and at Gondor remind of some Polish lads with wings
The siege of Vienna was WHEN THE HUSSARS ARRIVED
If recall correctly the battle of Vienna which you have described was supposedly the inspiration for the Film version of the battle for helms deep there are disagreements on this but I personally find to many similarities to discount it
THAT'S WHEN THE WINGED HUSAAR'S ARRIVED!
The Battle of Verdun has a special traditional name in Russian historiography -- "Верденская мясорубка" ("Verdun meat grinder"). Makes perfect sense, I guess.
Greetings from Russia, congrats on your baby, and thank you for this video.
Another way to see it is if every battle of WW1 was a meat grinder
However, Verdun's meat grinder ran uninterrupted for almost a year
Helps again to put things in perspective
In germany we call it the Blutmühle meaning blood mill basically the same thing.
In hungary we say : Verduni vérszivattyú, which basically means : Verduns bloodpump
In France, Verdun is considered both as a great victory and tragedy. While Germany was starting to be stroke by the cost of the war (both financially and in terms of ressource) they thought it was the moment to end the stalemate and trench warfare to go back to movement battle like at the very start of the war, pushing to Paris and forcing France to surrender. While Austrian-Hungarian force were still holding the Russian army on the east, Britain and France (mostly MOSTLY britain) had sent troops to the Ottoman Empire, allied with Germany, to cut off their supply in Oil (Assault des Dardanelles / Battle of Galipoli) Germany thought they could concentrate all their forces into one point to break through.
France resisted on the first two week but German war machine was too much to bear and call totheir allies (mostly Britain again and some Belgian troops) to attack on the other end of the frontline to disperse German Army (Battle of the Somme for the most well known), evening the odds on Verdun (Need to remember that Germany was at the time the most powerful Nation in Europe due yo it's massive industry and population - somewhat 20 millions more poeple that France)
Since the force were that much close to each other in terms of power, the battle was never ending and lasted, as said in the song, almost an entire year. FGinally, Germany stopped their offensive on Verdun, losing to much for little to no gain at all. Afterwards, Germany, in order to keep the moral of their troops up, have proclamied that the objective of the Verdun offensive was a succes : Bleeding the french army dry. In order to not saying : "you did all of this for nothing and we failed".
But they were right on that point. The French army was heavely wounded after Verdun and during the 2 next year of the war, will almost never goes to the offensive like before and mstly defend, lacking manpower (plus, French armament was not on par with the Germans - The Chauchat is dogshit)
Thus, in France, Verdun is a symbol of determination and resiliance against adversity and a tragedy where we losted too many lives.
And this symbol is now simply undermined by the reputation we kinda have due to the humiliating defeat in the WW2
(Sorry for my english)
Anybody who says France is cowardly or something like that because of the defeat in 1940 is a fool. Had France not fought a heroic rear guard the British would have been wiped out at Dunkirk. We owe you a huge debt for that sacrifice. British and France are 1st and 2nd for military victories. As an Englishman it obviously annoys me that france is 1st. But anybody who actually believes that Britsin could have stopped blitzkreik is a fool. The channel and our navy saved us. Hopefully Britain and France will remain allies in the future. We got all of our rivalry out early on and can now fight together and respect each other.
V E R D O O N
Thanks dave. Now i cannot unheard that
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I believe and what I've heard is that J.R.R Tolkien was inspired by French General Robert Nivelle with the quote "They shall not pass". I could be wrong, not 100% sure. Awesome reaction btw!
that has never been confirmed, but since he served on the French front and that phrase was *everywhere* in France at the time, it's pretty much impossible for him to not have seen fliers or posters with it all over the place during the war.
I can't get over the power of "though you die where you lie, never asking why" into that solo. Hooooooly moly.
verdun was a significant cultural city for the french which is why it was attacked and why the french fought so hard to defend it. it was originally supposed to be a diversion to draw attention away from other parts of the front, but it escalated into the biggest battle in the world
France had to rotate the men in the battle of verdun, and at the end of the battle allmost 90% of the france army had fought at the battle of verdun.
The battle itself was supposed to bleed the French and the Germans knew that the French would not let Verfun fall and thought they would pull troops from Belgium and lead to a massive attack by the Germans to break through the northern front
And the Germans realized how wrong they were when Verdun refused to fall.
If you have cc on their solo it just say "Awesome Solo"
The front line of verdun was just 30 km wide . the germans used it as a diversion to pull french troops away from the some so they could attack , it was not even a goal to capture verdun it self. The French didnt see any tactical or strategic importance of verdun , they had the simular view of bleeding the german army at this spot.
Historicly verdun is of great significance of france and germany as 1200 years ago the easter franconian empire ( modern day germany ) and western Franconia ( modern day france ) signed a treaty to alie them self against their brother ruler of lotheringia , it was also the place the boarders of france and holy roman empire would be drawn.
Professor Dave, I know your children will be well-versed in all different types of music. Congratulations on your new baby girl. Great job as always!
Talk about an unwritten invitation to a lifelong case of PTSD. This battle generated thousands of them. I love your reviews of this historically themed musical group.
If I'm not wrong, more than 70% of all French veterans of WWI served at Verdun.
As a french man, this music and video touches me dearly, my elders fought in this battle. As said by others, french army came up with a rotationnal system, so remaining soldiers wouldn't spend too much time at verdun because they'd all get shell shock so fast they would become a liability for everybody else.
WW1 was such a huge waste of human lives, it breaks my heart to this day, in the comfort of my modern and peaceful life. France came out "victorious" of the Great War, broken, shattered and grieving. Just for the next generation to jump in WW2.
My great Grandfather escaped the shells because he was a ferrier during WW1, and his hands were more important at the front taking care of the horses than shooting a rifle, probably the reason he had the chance to survive and have kids, and that I exist today. Both my grand parents were kids during ww2, my grandmother had nightmares about the germans camping in their garden when she was a kid, she had these nightmares until the day she died.
A couple weeks ago I visited an accurate reproduction of french trenches facing german trenches, not too far from Verdun. They were at best 30 meters apart from each other. You could chuck a grenade in the other trench between two puffs of a cigarette in the closests spots.
My father did his army drills at verdun, during his military service, back in the 80s, before the forests completly grew back, when the craters were still part of the landscape. He would say "crows would fly on their back, just to so they can't see the misery".
When I was living at my friend's place, when I would drive to my workplace, I'd see 3 different military graveyards. Countless rows and columns of crosses and white tombstones.
That's why Sabaton's song touched me. Someone caring about the horror the "charming surrendering monkey country" went through.
Your Sabaton reactions are one of the highlights of my week! Love it!
Great reaction! Thanks! And congrats! As for the trenches in the video - no, they are not the same. Fields of Verdun were filmed in Poland, Świnoujście - Fort Gerhard, and Christmas Truce - in the Czech Republic (Joachim's Mum homeland)
Finally glad you’re doing a reaction to this song it’s 1 of my all time favorite Sabaton songs
Great reaction as usual from the man with the most powerful voice amongst reactors. And you are definately ready for a live Sabaton concert, would love to join you for that. Big congratulations on your coming daughter. All the best from Sweden.
I think the funniest part of the video is realizing the flamethrower guy was only there to shoot flames into the air. First appearance very serious, each cut back quite comical as he just blow flames far away from anyone in the air.
God bless you and your family Dave! Keep up the good reactions!
thanks again! if you wanna see whats left from the Fortress of Verdun, watch some of their History Videos, the Red Baron for example. They filmed it where the battle took place 👍
Battle of Verdun was not a small scale as u put it at the beginning it was a very important battle of the western front that caused the allies to attack so that the germans could not use full force on verdun which resulted in a lot of battles for example the Some
I re counted what i said in the video about it being small scale, more specifically near the end of the video.
In one sense it was small. It took place in quite a small area.
And because neither side would retreat, that small area became a veritable meat grinder.
@@suntiger745 well yes but the effect it had on the war was big even russia did the brusilov offensive to put more pressure on germans
2 single off there next cd in march 2022 solider of heaven comes out jan 7
When history is so hardcore and badass it makes a wizard facing down a giant flaming demon in one-on-one combat pale in comparison!
Congrats to new daughter, hope it all goes/went well. Just had a daughter 6 weeks ago. Good luck!
Even as a French man, we were not taught much about our war history in school, except about a few famous battles such as Verdun. It’s nice to see other people having interest in ww1/2 battles, because these two wars count some of the craziest battles in history…
Jrr tolkien served in ww1 so it would make sense if he took the they shall not pass from there
Sabaton 🥰🤘🤘🤘 Congrats to the baby 🤗🥰
I have the official merch hoodie for this song so it's one of my absolute favorites, I can't explain why. Probably a combination of the song just being awesome and a deep fascination for battles like this and events that push humanity to the absolute brink which Verdun is a outstanding example of
Sabaton is in my top 5 favorite bands because they make human history interesting for me. I would love to hear a band take Sabaton's passion and approach to the history of warfare and apply it to paleo-history.
Your reactions always make me smile. You have such enthusiasm, no matter what you're listening to, and I appreciate it. Congratulations on your new daughter!
Trench Warfaire was mostly a stalemate cause the Pushing Power was based on small pushes of 60 to 300 men charging a line of 20-35 rifleman 2 machineguns, 2 layers of barbed wire, then unknown trench staggers that can lead to knowhere or trap you with spikes. However there was times where break threws had happened, this was ussually caused by bad timing on an attack of the defender. Then combat switched from 80 yards - 135 yards to 8 inches - 5 yards. This lead to Brawls of disturbing scales, you had knife speicalists, nuckle-dusters, makeshift clubs, and many forms of brutal combat: This sprouted a lot of pain when Flamethrowers, tear gas, chlorine gas, and other brutal clear methods were implimented on the battle lines.
Germany issued "Flammine Warffers" or Flame Throwers which became known as Sturm Troupen if I remember correctly, often later paired with submachine guns and artillary lugars
Congratulations Dave on the Baby girl.I always leave feeling uplifted after watching your videos keep up the positivity. Highly recommended you see Sabaton live in 2022 if possible they are amazing live.
Want to know how brutal that battle was? A million artillery shells fired on day one alone and it ran for almost a year, it was so destructive that to this day the site is uninhabitable due to all the ordnance, chemical weapons that remain. The arsenic levels there are 1000 times higher than the limit. That place is destroyed for generations to come.
Awesome reaction ...Thanks
I am watching it for the first time here. Riding this wave with ya
Thanks for your reaction! Whatever the time, wars are just terrible. It's so sad that people haven't learned anything from the past. 😒 Congratulations - I wish you and your family all the luck in the world! 💝 😊
I think you would really get a kick out of checking out the Sabaton History Channel, most of the songs with Lyric videos or music videos have an entry there and they get into the stories that inspired the songs; for example, you were right the first time, fathers would in some cases be in the trenches with their sons, who had lied about their ages so they could go to the "jolly little war" and get honor.... yeah, just try to remember the concept of war Pre-WW1 was a lot different
Congrats on the new baby
I don't know if it was common but when I recently was in Bletchley in England I came upon a monument called The Glorious Dead which had 2 separate year spans, 1914-1918 and 1939-1945 and contained a list of people on all sides, and one thing I quickly noticed as I was contemplating this (spent a few minutes standing there silently reading the names) was the number of times the same family name came up... Sometimes it would have been brothers but it could as easily be father, son, uncle, etc. and with the number of soldiers that fought and died in those wars it's highly likely... Several generations just gone.
In the uk, the maximum age for conscription was 41, so if it's very possible for a father and son to have both served together in ww1
You hit the nail on the Head, Tolkien indeed fought in the Battle of the Somme, They were fought close to the same time.
You know which channel I think is super underrated? Metal Piano Music. The guy spends weeks composing classic metal songs into classical/relaxing piano pieces and he hardly gets any views. I love his arrangement of The Sentinel by Judas Priest. That dude deserves millions of followers
See them live. They’re great. Just look up the set list ahead of time
Idk if fathers and sons fought side-by-side in the trenches of WW1 though I wouldn't be surprised. However, the British did form Pal Battalion which were battalions/platoons formed from men of the same township or profession to create a more cohesive unit in the hopes men would fight harder beside someone they knew or could relate to. What the British failed to realize before it was too late is that given some of the offensives and the death tolls of the war this had the potential of wiping out most of the male population of a township or profession after a single battle. Thanks in no small part to old military tactics being used in modern war.
Indy Neidell of The Great War youtube channel brought this up early in their show.
Day ? Of asking you to react to 82nd all the way by sabaton. Great video man👍
Actually, the loss of life and therefore reproduction of Verdun can actually be tracked, that's how significant 700000 deaths was in the 1910s.
this song has prob my fav guitar solo
Sabaton ♥️😍❤️
Yes, at that time every able bodied man would have been needed
Oh yes!!!
Great observation with the sound mixing, it would have taken a great deal of effort to not make the fighting sounds clash. Also great link you made with Tolkien and Gandalf's line, an extra star sticker for you :P. Man of culture.
You have to check out "Attero Dominatus" at some point, or maybe even "Wolfpack".
If you want to hear one of their live performances check out “En livstid i Krieg” live Gothenburg. You will love it.
They shall not pass was used during WWI and it's been used by various generals throughout history but yes it is said that LOTRs was inspired by this event.
It's crazy how history classes are like "yeah, there was world war one, but we're only gonna talk about the important stuff of world war two" and completely leave out the part where for nearly an entire year, one single battlefield was at constant war. Hell, it's so prolific, an entire FPS game like Battlefield was made SPECIFICALLY for the Battle of Verdun.
J.j.r Tolkien i belive, he took alot from norse mythology and the battle of vienna i have herd and some battle between the huns, goth against roman empire.
It was brutal battle, if you want to hear about another one, dont remember wich city it was but in middle east when mongols came it is said that they kille like 1-3 million people in 1 hour and then killed all the cats and dogs just because they thought the muslims dissrespected the khan.
The soldier screaming at the beginning sums everything up for the rest of the video. PTSD sucks. Literally generations of French men were killed, which left them unable to counter the Germans during WW2. People give the French hell, but they just didn't have anyone to fight 25 years later. 1.2 million men were killed. Basically three generations of men.
700.000 casualties over 303 days average little over 3000 casualties per day, so perhaps people never slept until they died.
that flame thrower or in german
Flammenwerfer
(>^0^)> what it do Dave love to see your reactions you should give sabatons Flanders Field to listen it's a bit short but it's emotional.
Tolkien was a veteran of the first world war.
Someone probably had a 3000k 1000a and 0d streak after that battle.
Better than any counter-strike player. 😂
React to 82nd all the way by Sabaton the lyric video pls :) love ur video's
Check out sabayon history for more information
Try to say it like wheredone :)