This One Minute Maintenance Will SAVE YOUR SAW! Stihl MS440 Echo CS-590 Timberwolf
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- One of the leading causes of your chainsaw being destroyed is saw dust and debris being sucked into the intake. Today we go over a one minute maintenance trick to keep your piston and cylinder in perfect condition.
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Would a narrow nut fit in there, to keep the filter tight?
Here is a tip to keep your chainsaw in good running condition. Do not loan equipment to someone if you have to show them how to start it. I will take my tractor, chainsaw, or power tools to help someone out but I refuse to loan my equipment to someone who never owned one.
You know I preach this rule and the ONE TIME I didn't listen to myself and let a friend borrow my Mantis Tiller, even with me GIVING HER A GALLON OF MY MIXED FUEL, STILL brought it back with straight muddy gas in the tank and it almost burnt up.. 😳
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@@Chickanic I notice you said "almost burnt up" I had a mantis and found they are almost bomb proof, with the emphasis on "Almost ".
Good kit & so lightweight.
I only loan my stuff to people who can afford to buy me a replacement 😂. And I tell them you break it you replace it.
My father taught me “ do not loan tools! If you like someone enough, go with the tool, bring it home.
Used to race motocross in the 80s & 90s and we always used foam filters, coated sparingly with two stroke oil.
After each race they'd get washed, coated with fresh oil and they were good as new and ready to go again.
Same… used to grease the contact surfaces
@@ClayCourtGuy the blue belray grease
@@geoffgay3637 ooooh! loved the smell of belray 2SO… the four stroke fellas of today have no idea what MX meets were like back in the day with all the senses activated….
Along with the foam oil, we used Vasoline on our UNI or Twin Air filters grooves where it contacts the airbox, it provided an excellent seal. We raced/trail rides in often very wet conditions in the PAC NW.
Spark plug boot grease (dielectric grease) is much better for this application. Petroleum based grease will deteriorate rubber gaskets. Great tip….Thank you 🍻
Yes! Red Tacky grease is great for this!!
This is why we love you Bre. You are awesome. 🙂 Thank you for the great tip.
Something that helps reduce the fine dust is keeping the chain sharp and the rakers down, big chips make less dust.
As a teenager working in the woods, an old timer taught us to clean our, then simple, air filters by running two cycle gas through backwards then slapping the air filter against the a tailgate or such until clean. I still use this technique whenever the air filter design design is appropriate. The grease seal has worked for me.
I imagine that saw is very difficult to start after saturating the air filter with gas.
@@larryreno8293 I've been shown that process, too. And no, it's not all that hard to start. The gas evaporates really fast.
As a career mechanic, I use high temperature grease on most gaskets that I replace. In fact, in the old days, we used high temperature grease on the VW valve cover gaskets instead of replacing the gasket. Works great, love your idea.
I used to hear my dad or a mechanics teacher say "The devil is in the details", & "small foxes spoil the vines" I finally got good at looking at details & built a reputation for that. Thank you Bre for sharing these details to look for.
Great advice Bre. I never thought about the grease trick. I'll be doing it from now on.
We used to do the grease trick on 1970’s Chevrolet K15 pickups. Never tried it on my chainsaws but will, now.
I pull my chainsaw(s) down and clean them and service them every time I use them regardless of the size and or duration of the job I use them for. Being in aircraft maintenance engineering for twenty years really taught me the value of preventative maintenance.
great advice! For the echo, in addition to the grease I also add a rubber o ring which really helps!
Now I gotta go check my Timberwolf! Thx!
Cool tip!
I use a vacuum with a narrow nozzle to clean the filter and carb area. It doesn't always get everything because of oil sticking the debris to the saw - I wipe that out.
Ironically, the latest issue I had was the air filter clip breaking and debris got in anyway 🙄
Sweet, thanks for the updates on your one minute maintenance. With spring starting early in the southwest, going take care of any "debris" in my chainsaws!
Keep chain sharp to minimize fines... Cool old fan on the work bench, reminds me of the old times. 👍
Standard motorcycle air filter trick... Also something we used a lot when driving through sand hills and so on in 4x4s.
Great info I have no doubt many people overlook their air filter just as you said blow it off and good to go. Thanks for sharing.
I just finished fixing a fubar I did on my MS 250, new bar, chain, sprocket , washer & clip. While in the clutch drive, pulled the clutch & plate and did clean and check oil pump, tube and fittings including O ring. Only $125.00 for parts.
Here in western Kentucky I had a bunch of limbs down from the ice storm that came through. I purchased on of the hand held 18 Volt Ryobi chain saw. It worked great cutting down those limbs so I could easily handle them. I did try to buy a new chain at Home Depot. They didn’t have the right chain. They said on package it was right, but it didn’t fit the cogs in the bar. So I ordered on off Amazon. It came with a new bar and three chains. Worked great. I didn’t have to drag out my much larger Echo saw. I put a 6 amp battery on that small saw and used it for several hours. The saw was free with a purchase of three new batteries about three years ago. Since all of my power hand tools are green, it was a great deal. But don’t get me wrong, I love my Echo lawn tools!!!!!!
I learned from a ole pulpwooder vaseline works great in these cases and I have done that for 40 yrs. Thanks Bre !!!!👍👍👍
Never thought about the grease trick or an upgrade kit. Thanks!
I LOVE my Timberwolf; it's a BEAST! Back in Missouri, in firewooding, we traditionally had a rule not to loan chainsaws, as something bad happens.
Old biker trick; cheap nail polish is a threadlock.
So is silicone
So that’s why my brothers were always borrowing our nail polish😂
My ms170 always has this issue with dust and no easy fix at least that I have found.
Going out to the garage right now with the tube of grease. Thank you!
i love my echo timber wolf. at 50 years old it is my first chainsaw with the larger teeth.
Love this tip! Been doing it for years after having first learned it on motorcycle applications (mainly for off road bikes). Thanks for the reminder. FYI, I have bought a number of the tools you have suggested over the years and have yet to be disappointed, they've helped me a ton! Thanks for sharing these great tips and suggestions with us weekend warriors!
Great tip. I'll head to the garage after lunch to tune my Stihl. That said, an air filter is arguably the mist important filter on any engine. Thanks.
This is a great tip. I had never considered the seal of the air filter.
I'll be doing that now with my STIHL MS 180, thanks for the tip.
Great advice on the grease! I’ll be using that technique in my future videos on my channel. Always a pleasure watching your videos and I always learn something new. Thank you!
Great tips! 👍
I was so disappointed with my 590 air filter and now I know there is a solution!
With the Stihl 44 66 saws always run the internal foam filter the pressure compensation device between the back of the pump diaphragm and the inside of the diagram can leak letting dirt in
Great tip👍🏻 the Gearhead kit definitely helps. Alex Anderson, aka A2 design has an awesome kit out now for the Echo cs-590/cs-620 that uses the much better cs-400 filter and an Outerwears pre-filter. His cs-4910/cs-501 kit is awesome aswell!
I just wanted to let you know I’m in! Anything you can teach me is great! I Love Power Tools! Thanks Bre! You are beautiful and intelligent! Have a fantastic day everyone!
Great advice. - In the Dirt Bike world grease around the air filter elemnt is normal maintenance.
Yes, and an oiled foam filter.
Great tip! I've been meticulous on my maintenance but hadn't thought about that. Thank you!
I have run Husqvarna chainsaws snice the late 1980 . I ran Sthil saws early 1980 for what ever reason I have no luck with these saws. You brought up dirty air filters and I never even thought about it. I think since the early 1990 Husqvarna blew all the dirt off the air filter. I bought a 2016 mower with a Briggs 25 horse with a cyclone air filter. The prefilter was almost not dirty after 8 years . To fell warm and fuzzy inside. I put in a new one. To make me realize my very large Husqvarna collection could have dirty air filter. The 2 serious was absolute bullet proof.
Great tip! I need clean up my ms440 anyway.
I do a similar thing, the only difference is that I use plumbers silicone grease.
That's not silicone sealant, it's for lubricating plastic pipe joints & o rings. It's a bit more sticky & slightly thicker than normal grease.
I was wondering about that! I know I have that. Thank you. I’m totally going to try this😊
@@Jumper1776 it works for me, I keep a small tub of it in my sharpening kit, that way I know I always have it handy.
I was looking for someone to recommend silicone grease instead. Silicone Grease is much better on rubber also.
Always learn something new an helpful. Thanks
I also run a 590 Timber Wolf. I purchased a "copy" of the GearHead air filter upgrade kit. Really made a difference in the fines getting past the air filter. :)
Great content! I use die-electric grease on the rim of my air filter and the threads of my spark plug.
Thank you for the great reminders and tricks! Lube is a cool trick, though I would use silicone grease as it is a little more friendly to rubber and plastic seals. Also, I like to use a shop vac before blowing air as I think it is better to pull the debris away than it is to possibly drive the junk into the engine.
I ditched the stock Stihl air filter for the Max-Flow. No more dust!!
Yup. Use the kit on my 620. Works great! Had not heard of the grease tip. Sounds pretty handy!
You're right on the money. I sold a Stihl MS250 because of the bad air filter design. No matter what I did, it always sucked sawdust past the filter and I was wasting too much time messing with it instead of cutting wood. Thanks for the video
Great tip. Something I never considered.. Awesome!! Thanks!!!
Awesome! Love my 660, but even with a new out of the box genuine filter, that saw still sucks sawdust. I never knew about the gasket - thanks.
I noticed when you removed your aged filter that it was missing (1) the filter insert, Stihl part #000-124-0800, and (2) the outer band that aids in keeping the fines out of the filter, Stihl part #0000-141-0300. Your Stens replacement had both. The old grease hack is good, but it is even better when all the parts designed to filter the air are present. 😉 Enjoyed the video.
I've got a Shindaiwa 446S and often get fines making their way in the air filter and carb intake. It's the same filter as the Echo 390SX, 501SX. Some people with these saws have resorted to using teflon tape on the carb intake.
Good stuff. Own MS170 am worst on maint. Winter now better have look at air filter. Thx
Great tip, MS 391 or 390 here. Happiness is a tight seal. Lube away!👍
Oooh, I am going to try the grease trick.
I do this all the time on my off road racers' filters.
Wish you had a shop near me x
I never thought of sealing them before good idea
I like your tips;;;makes sense;;;lost one chainsaw because of what you just fixed;;;;lol;;;its getting harder to get good gas for my equipment;;;all stations in metro quit carrying or never did and the three that I was getting from have shut down;;so its either bad gas or no gas;;;lol;;;thanks for the tips girl;;enjoyed;;;thumbs up and keep em comin
Thank you so much for this. I have always been a little upset at the filter design on the Echo 590 especially after owning the CS400 which has a great automotive style filter. The first time i took off the 590's air filter was, disappointing to see how it was designed. This should be a HUGE improvement. I ordered it before finishing the video. Again THANK YOU BREE!
Awesome tip. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Thank you.
Thank you for this great tip and one I wish I had known earlier. Any thoughts on electric chain saws for occasional use as much to my surprise they seem to be getting widely used even by arborists?
Great video, going to check mine now, Thanks Bre 😊.
Cereal boxes and permatex make good gaskets
Having seen debris come through the edges of the Echo clamshell filter bodies, I use grease there too before I snap the two parts back together.
Thanks for all your tips and tricks I enjoy your informative content. My question is does Stihl sell grease to use on their chainsaw caged clutch bearings, if not what is your recommendation?
Great quick video to help extend the life of your saw. Thank you for sharing this video
Thanks for sharing the tips and information.
Great Tip Bre.
Thanks for the Wonderful Information.👌
Awesome tip.
Thanks Del!
Good idea Bree, I've got a John Deere/ Echo I bought new 25 yrs ago that is mint I'll have to look at it to use your trick.😊
Great tips + links. What more could a satisfied subscriber ask for?
Thanks a ton! I have the 590.
Thank you for posting this video on chain saw 1 minute maintenance tip bre
Thanks so much Robert for continuing to watch! Glad you aren't tired of me yet! 😂
@Chickanic why would I be tried of you Bre I love watching your videos oh by the way the gasket kit for the echo 590 chain saw would it work on my shindawia 591 chain saw let me know if it would thanks 👍 young lady 💐
@@robertmailhos8159 It sure will! Looks like the 591 is pretty much the same saw!
@Chickanic okay thanks for the info on this air filter gasket kit Bre 👍😎😁✌️💪
Thank you for the tip Bre!😊
Great advice from a true professional. BTW I like the way your hair blows with that air hose. Real model's trick :)
Interesting! I wonder if there's anything to improve the air filter on my smaller Stihl MS250?
You are the best! Have a fabulous day!
My one-month old Stihl MS271 is making a squealing noise while idling as the chain rotates. I can reproduce this when it’s off by just manually rotating the chain. Local mechanic says it’s not a problem. What do you think? I can send video. When I remove chain, sprocket turns easily without squeaky noise. Oil flow is working well. I don’t know what is causing this. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Great channel!
The air filter on the CS 620 is why I chose the 7310 instead. The air filter on the 7310 is like the 680 which does a good job of filtering. I did see the kit for the 620 and showed the dealer and he said he would order one for his 590.
Perhaps you should think about putting all these tips in a book. It would probably be a bestseller.
I think this was why I have been oiling my trimmer foam filters after washing. I've been under the impression that grabs more dust.
great tips. As a long-time dirt bike guy, specifically riding/maintaining 2-strokes, I am accustomed to foam air-filters that are oiled, and then have a pre-filter installed over them. Why don't chainsaw manufacturers do the same?
If you check it regularly and keep it clean, the air will get pulled thru the filter as it was designed to do. If don't even with the grease, you are going to be pulling in less air and cause other issues with the relative combustion including hard to start and rough running.
This is a lesson most of us learn once. :)
I will definitely blow out all my air filters and add the grease! I never even thought about that. I am a retired pipefitter of 45 years and anytime we worked on coal pipe. We always put lots of grease on all the gaskets so if they did have a coal dust leak, they would mat shut.
Thanks!! I'll checkout kits.
Need to review any 028 av videos. Neighbor gave me the saw that been sitting FOREVER. 20. YRS? Maybe find a carb replacement? You are awesome.
Thanks Bree. That’s good information.
Hello Bre and thank you for the tip. I do grease on some auto filters, but never thought of it for chainsaw. Any gaskets or suggestions for like the MS361c to improve the filter sealing?
Some of that ordinary grease or Vaseline can work it's way into the carb, especially if you use too much. I recommend "high vacuum" grease for this because it stays where you put it. I have used it for my milling saws for years
Same thing is done on off-road motorcycle 100% foam air filters. Apply grease onto the filter's foam flat side to help seal it. Their foam filters are soaked with air filter tacky oil.
Good idea l service 60 chain saws and polesaw electric linesman are hard on the saws by cutting utility pole that are treated
I'm a horrible person. a guy gifted me a Stihl Chainsaw (I forget model.) It was a little beat up but he builds them for a living. I could never afford one. ANyway, I have had it 4 or 5 years now and have never so much as changed air filter or drain the fuel during winter. Yet, every single time I go to start it , by 3rd pull, it starts. I hatemyself for not taking better care of it. But I admit, I rarely use it, I typically use my 14" Ryobi. I have a really bad back so that Stihl is just too heavy for me. BUT.. This video right here is giving me the motivation I need to go do maintenance on all my saws and even my mower. Stihl groupies, please forgive me!
Ryobi and Stihl in the same paragraph 🤬
Great vid as always, and thanks. My question though, is what do i do with all my freed up time and money, and lack of frustration? Cheers
I learned something new today. Thanks.
Is there enough room on mounting bolt to put a nut andvwasher inside the cover. That might help hold filter against the saw and stop the vibrations from loosening it.
Up until a few years ago most stihl saws had garbage air filtration. If I’m using my 066 I will clean the air filter every 2tanks of gas . That’s one thing husqvarna figured out years ago ,rarely ever worry about air filters at least in the XPs .
Hello Dear. Is it feasible to use a thin nut to crank onto the threaded shaft and torque down snuggly before applying the air filter cover? The thin nut would hold the filter down tightly and still allow room for the cover to be threaded on?
You can also put a washer or two on top to help the cap make a tighter seal!
I was taught to use a soft paint brush for cleaning a filter. Compressed air can damage the filter allowing more debris through than you realize.
Thanks for the advice