I've had a palm springs twice, a vegas and a Zurich that now has water leaking from the bottom of the pump. I've just ordered a Hollywood today and whilst I was on Amazon I noticed a non return valve for the A pipe that fits into the front of the pipe and sits where the pump screws onto the A pipe. I was thinking that I might order one now so I can use it on the Hollywood from day one. It's possibly the water going back into my pump that's caused the problem. This has been an issue since 2018 when I bought my first spa and they still haven't rectified the problem. I'll watch your video as soon as I get chance. Just wanted to let you know before I forget or lose the page. 👍
So glad I found this video. It took me a long time to get it all in place, but finally I did. It drips a little bit, but I can handle that. Thanks for sharing this info 😊😊
Brilliant!I'm having the same problem with my A-hole...water gushing out and when the egg is attached it leaks from underneath.Hoping I can reach my A-hole to fix it.Damn A-holes.Thanks!
No such luck.I have the green Coleman version and this valve (that I can see is detached and only covering half of the A hole) is 8 or so inches down the tube into the tub.My best hope now will be to stop the leaking from inside the egg where I found one of the rubber one way valve plungers has deteriorated around its edge and leaking out of the bottom.Another guy recommends stretching the springs inside the blower apparatus inside the egg in order to force the two plungers against their stops harder to prevent them from leaking.I've had mine for 4 years and would just buy a new one, but since Covid they have gone frm $350 to well over $500.Anyway, thanks for the info and the remedy.Happy hot tubbing!
You do know you can buy those seals on eBay their about a tenner (abit expensive I know) but it’s a lot cheaper also than (£250.00) for a new liner I checked with bestway
I have the same leak and did this repair. Fiddly but worked thank you. Then I realized I had a spare air screw valve (air valve you unscrew to inflate) and this fits inside the A pipe of the Miami perfect. If further down the line the rubber on that valve perishes its an easy and cheap swap (£4.99 for two PART No. B-BWF4024)
I agree and have been through the same process with Intex. My version is the "Greywood deluxe" SB-HW20. The non return valve is even further inside the tube (about 100mm). I have seen this rubber flap on ebay and Ali-express though. Unfortunately for me it seems like the Greywood deluxe variant is to hard to fix. I am thinking of buying a "standard" return valve and glue it in the tube. Any recommendations regarding the SB-HW20 is appreciated.
This is a great vid, but newer Hawaii tubs have the valve placed way down the pipe @ ~ 215mm making this repair even more difficult. If I can't get to it to fix it I'm going to try to remove the flap valve dis and fabricate a new valve which I will cement nearer the end of the pipe. The pipe is probably ABS so pipe cement should work, will have to get creative with the valve material.
It looks like the disk has been sucked into the actual liner. We did find it's little broken shaft. Tried to feel around the low route that the air blows along to see if we could isolate where the round disk was but not successful. Any suggestions for finding the disk would be appreciated. We are at a loss now. :(
Our tub has a plastic 'gate' at the back of it too, so it can't fall inside the liner. However, if you can't find it you'll have to make one from rubber. Maybe try an old bike tyre or inner tube and see if that works? It might be more flexible and easier to get in place.
Amazing Phil thank you for sharing we have this problem we have located the valve disk in the air jets we managed to get it round but any ideas how to reach it and pull it out?
Hi phil this happened to my lazy spa can I still use it without this and just the leak? And what size is the nut and bolt in which you used wondering were I can pick one up, cheers.
hi phil.....just checked mine and the rubber part aint in mine at all , must have been lost inside the tub walls .... going to give this a try but was wondering if i do manage to get the fix done how tight do i do the nut and bolt up , do i have it with a little give .....thanks regards gary .
Hi Phil thanks for posting this video, ive searched through quite a few on here and havent seen any cover this particular topic, ive tried all the other fixes and this is the last one left i havent tried but before i start i wanted to ask when the pump unit is fully disconnected and away and there is water in the tub spa should zero water come out of this exit? as my rubber stem seems to be attached however water is slowly coming underneath the rubber washer part at a fairly stable trickle? thanks i advance
Hi John, The rubber is not totally flexible so I would imagine it allows a little water through when cold. However once warm, we out the bubbles on briefly and then switched them off, and the seal was almost complete. Warm water will soften the rubber and make a better seal. My advice would be not to do this unless your seal is broken.
Folks, our one was leaking out of the main "A" hose that you use to pump up the Tub as in the video above . There was nothing broken on the main rubber bit at all. What I did was get the lid off of a 20 Litre vegetable oil container, the ones Fish Shops use and remove the waterproof large 10p like white bit of seal that sits under the lid. It is glued in the middle but will come out. Then get roughly measure what you need and cut around the disc shape you have. It does not have to be perfect but must fit over the tightening ring and not fall through. Once in place no leaks at all.. If anyone wants a pic of the mock seal I made please message me via messenger.
It effects the pressure of the air that is circulated around the tub. I have also had this problem, which I discovered today. I heard a pop and the pressure of the bubbles dropped immediately. Air will circulate but barely make it around the tub.
This idea is great for when you still have part of the valve, however my partner has come up with a solution for this issue that attaches between the tub and the blower. We are currently having the part produced. Its ideal if your valve has perished like ours did where we unable to copy the above idea. the solution we have works perfectly, it takes less than 30 seconds to fit and is cheaper than a new liner
Siobhan Smith I have the same problem my valve broke in half and I can’t get it out . Could you give me any idea what I could you to fix my problem please
Siobhan Smith was wondering if you had any update on this part..... had I a 3D printer I would have done the same!! Will be happy to take one if you can let me know!
Hi thank you for your video. We have managed to get ours out but it’s snapped in two pieces. I’ve googled to try and get a new one. They don’t seem to do a spare part for it. Gutted can anyone help or suggest anything? Thanks 👍
Hi sonia, no reply I'm afraid but I have the same problem but don't see the original valve anywhere, could you tell me the size of it please? I've ordered some of the suction caps as per another viewers recommendation, as the one I pieced together still allows water out, although I did use lino but think it could be done with a flexible rubber and the bolt and nut solution? Thanks
I know!! And liners out of stock at lay z spa!! So would that be 40 or 45mm width? If you can find some rubber, same thickness then the bolt solution by Phill is good. I'll let you know how I get on. Love my spa and gutted this has happened...
Mandi Hale I’m not sure of the size as my husband as put it away but that is our plan too. We hope to get some rubber next week and try. I will Let you know and I will let you know the size of the circle Tomorrow
Hi Phil thanks for the vid I've been on a mission trying to find out where to get one! Mine had totally fell apart would you know the size that the rubber was? I'll try and cut my own, Sorry to be a pain. Many thanks.
Mine leaks from the side of the NR valve. I never use the blower so was thinking just to blank off the A coupling. Can you buy a blank off the shelf, or is it a custom size?
I'd be surprised if there's an off-the-shelf blank, but there is a cap in the box your tub came in which you can screw on from the outside if you're really never gonna use the air bubbles.
ours leaks out of the air intake valve. when you unscrew to put air in water runs out? there is so much water in there i cant even lift the bloody thing with all the water drained out from inside! any ideas anyone?
I have come up with an alternative fix for those,like myself, whose rubber is broken or perished but I can't add pictures here....I'll have to sort out somewhere to show
So i re checked it all. I resealed punctures properly (by slightly letting it down once I marked the puncture) It has stayed inflated. I also checked with soapy water the A valve and there was no air leaking.
I have a new lay z spa vegas hot tub with freezeshield technology it worked for a few days but then the eo2 error came on. Outside in the cold about 2 degrees c it comes on and won't go off but when I take it in the house and its warned up the eo2 disappears the pump is supposed to be made for colder weather can anyone help please??
Lazy Spa is the perfect name for it as Bestway was too Lazy and cheep to build a decent hot tub that lasts more than two years. First a gasket went on mine which is only available from Bestway (they are very proprietary about the junk parts they produce) this cost me $20 forvtwo gaskets worth about a dollar. Bit that installed and now water is leaking from the pump. What a terrible product so poorly made!
So my question on the loctite is, why does loctite blue come in a red container and loctite red come in a blue container? If I told my wife to go to the hardware store and get some loctite blue, she would most surely come home with loctite red.
Nobody has that much time! It was a fiddle but basically I folded it in half, put it in and then positioned it once it was on the other side of the plastic frame.
Thanks Phil, you inspired me to have a go. I posted a video of my modification. And it works. ua-cam.com/video/tIM0n0jZuNI/v-deo.html. I fixed the E01 and E02 issue as well. Here: ua-cam.com/video/SEZacwdSKuY/v-deo.html
Life saver. Was given one as it was "broken". Thanks for the new Lay Z Spa 👍🏼
Great bit of work there Phill thanks for sharing with us, it's a really common problem that one and I've not seen a solution... Until now! Cheers
I've had a palm springs twice, a vegas and a Zurich that now has water leaking from the bottom of the pump.
I've just ordered a Hollywood today and whilst I was on Amazon I noticed a non return valve for the A pipe that fits into the front of the pipe and sits where the pump screws onto the A pipe.
I was thinking that I might order one now so I can use it on the Hollywood from day one.
It's possibly the water going back into my pump that's caused the problem.
This has been an issue since 2018 when I bought my first spa and they still haven't rectified the problem.
I'll watch your video as soon as I get chance. Just wanted to let you know before I forget or lose the page. 👍
So glad I found this video. It took me a long time to get it all in place, but finally I did. It drips a little bit, but I can handle that. Thanks for sharing this info 😊😊
Excellent! That's what I wanted to do, just help good people :)
Michelle Joyce facebook.com/The-Lazy-Valve-103169364712197/
Would these cause the hot tub to deflate or does it just stop water leaking?
This is exactly my question too
Brilliant!I'm having the same problem with my A-hole...water gushing out and when the egg is attached it leaks from underneath.Hoping I can reach my A-hole to fix it.Damn A-holes.Thanks!
No such luck.I have the green Coleman version and this valve (that I can see is detached and only covering half of the A hole) is 8 or so inches down the tube into the tub.My best hope now will be to stop the leaking from inside the egg where I found one of the rubber one way valve plungers has deteriorated around its edge and leaking out of the bottom.Another guy recommends stretching the springs inside the blower apparatus inside the egg in order to force the two plungers against their stops harder to prevent them from leaking.I've had mine for 4 years and would just buy a new one, but since Covid they have gone frm $350 to well over $500.Anyway, thanks for the info and the remedy.Happy hot tubbing!
I for one hate a leaky A hole!! 😂😂 Thanks for your handy tips on how to prevent further seepage..
🤣
I agree. "It's the last thing anyone needs..."😄
Absolutely.
You do know you can buy those seals on eBay their about a tenner (abit expensive I know) but it’s a lot cheaper also than (£250.00) for a new liner I checked with bestway
I have the same leak and did this repair. Fiddly but worked thank you. Then I realized I had a spare air screw valve (air valve you unscrew to inflate) and this fits inside the A pipe of the Miami perfect. If further down the line the rubber on that valve perishes its an easy and cheap swap (£4.99 for two PART No. B-BWF4024)
Explain a buy more please and thx
Nice job mate, well done and many thanks for sharing this..
Nice one Dude! Gona try this... we were thinking we needed a new liner but definitely try this first 👌
Much appreciated
My pleasure!
mrs Tye-Smith facebook.com/The-Lazy-Valve-103169364712197/
Thanks Siobhan for the link.
I agree and have been through the same process with Intex. My version is the "Greywood deluxe" SB-HW20. The non return valve is even further inside the tube (about 100mm). I have seen this rubber flap on ebay and Ali-express though. Unfortunately for me it seems like the Greywood deluxe variant is to hard to fix. I am thinking of buying a "standard" return valve and glue it in the tube. Any recommendations regarding the SB-HW20 is appreciated.
Perferk I'll test today if it works
Thanks from sweden!
I’ve just noticed mine has done this! I can see it through the tube but struggling to get it out, how did you get it out? Great fix pal, thanks
I found some long tweezers with a bend in the end. I'm not sure how we had them!
I have a honolulu and its way further in than yours I dont know if I can do it :( but brilliant vid thanks you
This is a great vid, but newer Hawaii tubs have the valve placed way down the pipe @ ~ 215mm making this repair even more difficult. If I can't get to it to fix it I'm going to try to remove the flap valve dis and fabricate a new valve which I will cement nearer the end of the pipe. The pipe is probably ABS so pipe cement should work, will have to get creative with the valve material.
Tony Ray facebook.com/The-Lazy-Valve-103169364712197/
Easy fix lol $4
It looks like the disk has been sucked into the actual liner. We did find it's little broken shaft. Tried to feel around the low route that the air blows along to see if we could isolate where the round disk was but not successful. Any suggestions for finding the disk would be appreciated. We are at a loss now. :(
Our tub has a plastic 'gate' at the back of it too, so it can't fall inside the liner. However, if you can't find it you'll have to make one from rubber. Maybe try an old bike tyre or inner tube and see if that works? It might be more flexible and easier to get in place.
The Smiths facebook.com/The-Lazy-Valve-103169364712197/
ebay
Will this stop my pump running ?
Hi the air from the spa walls is leaking out through either holes is this fixable please
Amazing Phil thank you for sharing we have this problem we have located the valve disk in the air jets we managed to get it round but any ideas how to reach it and pull it out?
It might be possible with long nosed pliers but we had some long tweezers with a bent end, weirdly.
Hi phil this happened to my lazy spa can I still use it without this and just the leak? And what size is the nut and bolt in which you used wondering were I can pick one up, cheers.
Drains in about 24 hours through this.
Ryan Crossland facebook.com/The-Lazy-Valve-103169364712197/
hi phil.....just checked mine and the rubber part aint in mine at all , must have been lost inside the tub walls .... going to give this a try but was wondering if i do manage to get the fix done how tight do i do the nut and bolt up , do i have it with a little give .....thanks regards gary .
Gary Rankine facebook.com/The-Lazy-Valve-103169364712197/
Hi Phil thanks for posting this video, ive searched through quite a few on here and havent seen any cover this particular topic, ive tried all the other fixes and this is the last one left i havent tried but before i start i wanted to ask when the pump unit is fully disconnected and away and there is water in the tub spa should zero water come out of this exit? as my rubber stem seems to be attached however water is slowly coming underneath the rubber washer part at a fairly stable trickle? thanks i advance
Hi John,
The rubber is not totally flexible so I would imagine it allows a little water through when cold. However once warm, we out the bubbles on briefly and then switched them off, and the seal was almost complete. Warm water will soften the rubber and make a better seal. My advice would be not to do this unless your seal is broken.
John Drake facebook.com/The-Lazy-Valve-103169364712197/
Folks, our one was leaking out of the main "A" hose that you use to pump up the Tub as in the video above . There was nothing broken on the main rubber bit at all. What I did was get the lid off of a 20 Litre vegetable oil container, the ones Fish Shops
use and remove the waterproof large 10p like white bit of seal that sits under the lid. It is glued in the middle but will come out. Then get roughly measure what you need and cut around the disc shape you have. It does not have to be perfect but must fit over the tightening ring and not fall through. Once in place no leaks at all.. If anyone wants a pic of the mock seal I made please message me via messenger.
Hi how can I get a pic please. Got same problem need to make a new valve somehow
I'd love a photo of the fix you did as i have the same problem
Wow that sounds great, please can you send me pics
Hi, for some reason there is not a facility here to upload a pic. Please send a message to me via messenger and I'll send some pics..
Thanks Phill, I'm trying to do the same thing with mine now. What length bolt do you think is ideal?
Mandi Hale facebook.com/The-Lazy-Valve-103169364712197/
20 to 25mm should do it.
Nive one mate ... life saver
How did you manage to retrieve the disk from inside the liner?
Ours was sitting right behind where it was supposed to be, so our long tweezers reached it easily enough.
Can you buy that valve from anywhere ?
Hi! What problem did this missing valve cause? Is it just stop the water from coming out, if you remove the pump with water still in the pool?
It effects the pressure of the air that is circulated around the tub. I have also had this problem, which I discovered today. I heard a pop and the pressure of the bubbles dropped immediately. Air will circulate but barely make it around the tub.
The valve allows the jet bubbles into the tub, but stops the water leaking back into your pump/egg. So when it fails, water leaks through the egg.
Was this causing the water to leak from the bottom of the pump ? Many thanks
Yes exactly.
This idea is great for when you still have part of the valve, however my partner has come up with a solution for this issue that attaches between the tub and the blower. We are currently having the part produced. Its ideal if your valve has perished like ours did where we unable to copy the above idea. the solution we have works perfectly, it takes less than 30 seconds to fit and is cheaper than a new liner
Hi Siobhan, sounds the perfect fix. Are you selling the part?
Siobhan Smith I have the same problem my valve broke in half and I can’t get it out . Could you give me any idea what I could you to fix my problem please
We are going to sell the part we have made. I’ll post the link to Ebay as soon as we have it ready :) will be by tomorrow / Saturday 🤞
@@ssmith3307 keep us informed
Siobhan Smith was wondering if you had any update on this part..... had I a 3D printer I would have done the same!! Will be happy to take one if you can let me know!
Hi thank you for your video. We have managed to get ours out but it’s snapped in two pieces. I’ve googled to try and get a new one. They don’t seem to do a spare part for it. Gutted can anyone help or suggest anything? Thanks 👍
Hi sonia, no reply I'm afraid but I have the same problem but don't see the original valve anywhere, could you tell me the size of it please? I've ordered some of the suction caps as per another viewers recommendation, as the one I pieced together still allows water out, although I did use lino but think it could be done with a flexible rubber and the bolt and nut solution? Thanks
Mandi Hale hi it’s just bigger than a 50p piece around 3mm in thickness. And obviously round in shape. Nightmare really
I know!! And liners out of stock at lay z spa!! So would that be 40 or 45mm width? If you can find some rubber, same thickness then the bolt solution by Phill is good. I'll let you know how I get on. Love my spa and gutted this has happened...
Mandi Hale I’m not sure of the size as my husband as put it away but that is our plan too. We hope to get some rubber next week and try. I will
Let you know and I will let you know the size of the circle
Tomorrow
Buy solid rubber gasket from eBay about £2.00 and cut a new piece of rubber to size and follow instructions from video
I think I have found this rubber online could you let me know how big is the diameter
I'm not sure so certain I used the original, so I didn't measure it sorry Andy.
Hi Phil thanks for the vid I've been on a mission trying to find out where to get one! Mine had totally fell apart would you know the size that the rubber was? I'll try and cut my own, Sorry to be a pain. Many thanks.
Sorry I didn't measure it as ours was still intact, apart from the obvious break in the little bit which held it in. Good luck"
Did you have any luck... mine has disappeared and I need sizes! Cheers
Damian Mc 41mm apparently
John Peacock facebook.com/The-Lazy-Valve-103169364712197/
Mine leaks from the side of the NR valve. I never use the blower so was thinking just to blank off the A coupling. Can you buy a blank off the shelf, or is it a custom size?
I'd be surprised if there's an off-the-shelf blank, but there is a cap in the box your tub came in which you can screw on from the outside if you're really never gonna use the air bubbles.
ours leaks out of the air intake valve. when you unscrew to put air in water runs out? there is so much water in there i cant even lift the bloody thing with all the water drained out from inside! any ideas anyone?
Any luck with this?
I have come up with an alternative fix for those,like myself, whose rubber is broken or perished but I can't add pictures here....I'll have to sort out somewhere to show
Can you say what dimension the rubber has?
Will this cause the liner to deflate?
No, its only associated with the bubbles. The rub is inflates thru a separate valve port higher up but on the same side of the tub.
It will cause it deflate ive had same problem
So i re checked it all. I resealed punctures properly (by slightly letting it down once I marked the puncture) It has stayed inflated. I also checked with soapy water the A valve and there was no air leaking.
Any idea what size bolt you used, as I may need to make one of these valves for a friend?
philmayhem facebook.com/The-Lazy-Valve-103169364712197/
@@ssmith3307 Thanks, though nothing really on there yet..any idea in terms of price?
Sorry no, it was one I had lying around. I think around 25mm long but not sure of the diameter.
Bought a led light for Monaco said on instructions turn the outlet filter anti lock wise and the filter fitting has snapped off.How can this b fixed.
If the plastic has snapped, I'm not sure but if it's an official.product I'd be chasing the guarantee.
I have a new lay z spa vegas hot tub with freezeshield technology it worked for a few days but then the eo2 error came on. Outside in the cold about 2 degrees c it comes on and won't go off but when I take it in the house and its warned up the eo2 disappears the pump is supposed to be made for colder weather can anyone help please??
Lazy Spa is the perfect name for it as Bestway was too Lazy and cheep to build a decent hot tub that lasts more than two years. First a gasket went on mine which is only available from Bestway (they are very proprietary about the junk parts they produce) this cost me $20 forvtwo gaskets worth about a dollar. Bit that installed and now water is leaking from the pump. What a terrible product so poorly made!
Can you say what dimension the rubber has?
41mm
very helpful thanks
So my question on the loctite is, why does loctite blue come in a red container and loctite red come in a blue container? If I told my wife to go to the hardware store and get some loctite blue, she would most surely come home with loctite red.
And that is why you must buy your own Loctite.
you didnt show how to get it back in dude
Nobody has that much time! It was a fiddle but basically I folded it in half, put it in and then positioned it once it was on the other side of the plastic frame.
If anybody is looking for a cheap fix at Lowe's or home depot I can fix this for $5 you just pop it in
You can pick a replacement valve up on eBay. Works perfect and easy to fit.
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/392785790387
There's a guy on ebay that sells replacements for these @£12....
Please share
Thanks Phil, you inspired me to have a go. I posted a video of my modification. And it works. ua-cam.com/video/tIM0n0jZuNI/v-deo.html. I fixed the E01 and E02 issue as well. Here: ua-cam.com/video/SEZacwdSKuY/v-deo.html
Wow this is exsctly what I have been looking for!!!! I need a hand please send me your Instagram handle. Thx