Canon R5ii - 3 Dealbreakers?
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0:00 Canon R5ii Dealbreakers
Comment what features you think the R5ii missing! Or is this finally the perfect camera?
Guat
I use the canon 400d as a beginner
I haven't use this camera but I still think that this is a perfect camera
And also make an video on Canon R1
65MP ? 😊
65 MP, tilt /articulated rear screen (like Sony A7RV has), RAW high res option and live composite mode (OM / Olympus has)
Can‘t belive they didn‘t implement 4K 60fps fine mode😞😞😞 Hope the 60fps and 120fps are better then on the original R5 🤞 (The R5c has the oversampled 60fps)
Such a disappointment. I just ordered the Nikon Z8
That's why I love the R6 II. It has oversampled full frame 4k60. It's fantastic!
I don't know why they didn't do it in a camera which actually shoots 8k 60p and can easily do 4k 60p fine.
There is a 4K fine mode in APSC which oversamples from a 5.7K region, which is good enough for me for shooting small wildlife clips... But this feels like a small exclusion that could easily have been added.
@@suchetdas5392 Canon artificially limits the R5 Mark II to leave 8K oversampled 4K60p as an exclusive feature for the R5C Mark II or another camera. The R5 II is definitely capable of 8K oversampled 4K60p but Canon simply does NOT want the camera to have this feature. The R5C has proven that it’s possible with the exact same image processor. There aren’t any excuses. Canon unnecessarily cripples the R5 II…..
Have my R5ii ordered!!! So excited !!! :D
As someone who was ready to pull the trigger on the R5c the R5 II came out at the most perfect time. I have been Shooting canon since slr days in the late 90s. When I saw the release of the 5d mark 2 14yrs ago that was game changing in the video realm. I feel like the R5 II just parallels that same feeling I had 14yrs ago. So yes….I pre-ordered it 😊
Thank Anthony for this video. I would like to add one thing, please. It’s SAD that these days camera manufacturers justify their price increase by adding flashy but IMPRACTICAL features like upscaling jpg files to 180 megapixels! Why don’t Sony and Canon add 32 BIT FLOAT internal audio recording to their cameras? That will help the majority of camera users who are solo shooters. Panasonic LUMIX GH7 already has it. All the pros know audio is worth 50% of their videos. If the audio is bad, then the video is useless.
It's a good point. 32-bit is something I've mentioned before, and since Lumix has done it, I think it will eventually push the big brands to do the same.
the upscaling is definitely useful for the R1 given its smaller sensor, but not really the R5ii.
I think the R1 as a camera focused on press and sports photography, where minimal editing is required upscaling in JPG only is good enough.
@@AnthonyGugliotta I hope so.
I think the price increase is from the stacked sensor. And adding 32 bit float would probably also be another price increase. The real question is what fills this price gap between the R6 and R5?
As someone who makes a living doing only photo and zero video, the new stacked sensor, face recognition priority system, and the improved AF all justify the price to me
As someone that doesn't shoot video, there are no deal-breakers for me. Also, there is nothing compelling enough for me to want to upgrade from my R5. I mainly shoot in a studio or urban setting with models, so I can't see any features on the Mk II that would help me get a better image.
Having a bsi sensor for better low light and dynamic range won't help you ?
@@onlysublime The dynamic range improvement from BSI sensors is barely noticeable in practice. As for low light - most studio shots are at F8 or F11 with strobes for me, so it would make no difference at all.
@@stew_redman and how would you know that.
@@onlysublime Absolutely loads of information and sample pictures all over internet forums and UA-cam comparing BSI sensors to standard CMOS. It's not hard to find. Certainly not worth the investment for me personally for a miniscule bump.
Agree with this. Although I'm very interested in AB testing the R5 and R5ii sensors to see exactly how much better (or not) the noise and dynamic range for photos is
The flip-out screen is definitely the biggest deal breaker for me, followed by non-oversampled 4K60p, single CFe slot, mediocre thermal performance.
I would love to see some upgrades on R5cii.
Yes. Something L-Bracket friendly would have sold me.
@@BillSmithBSartist It conflicts with the ports as well.
1. Clog2
2. Dual base ISO
3. More customizable buttons
4. HDMI Feed to both screen and ext. Monitor while recording to cards.
5. Cooling fan
They finally upgraded to full size HDMI, which was pretty 2017.
I've worked with the R5C for 2 years now, I really don't feel the R5 Mark 2 makes the R5C obsolete. The cinema Menu and tools, the Face Only Autofocus, the Dual Native ISO... those things put the R5C at a level that I don't think is necessary to switch. The only thing that the Mark 2 has that interest me is the Clog 2.
@@DanilloCabrera agreed 👍🏾
I can't wait to get this camera in hand!
I'm excited for both of us
Based on some interviews, they are still saying that the R5C is more for video shooters that need a video hybrid camera that can shoot all day with zero overheating. Even with the R5MarkII having the fan grip, it's still not able to record video without heat limitations. Hard to know however, if the R5C was worth for them as a product. But considering the FX3's popularity I could still see a world where in a couple years they update the R5C to a mark ii version.
As far as overheating. How do you fix the problem on one of your camera's (R5C) and bring it back on your newer camera. Craziness!
@@biggmannsf415stp THe R5C has a different design, it's pretty chunky because it has an internal fan, large heat pipes and exhaust ports vs even the new R5mark II.
2 steps forward 1 step back
@avdcam I get that, however I would rather have a camera that doesn't overheat with a lil body modification then a camera that I have my fingers crossed 🤞🏾filming a wedding hoping it doesn't overheat. And yes I know about the battery 🔋 grip/fan but I shouldn't have to modify my rig I'm my opinion.
@@biggmannsf415stp Yah honestly I agree too. I think it's just an issue for video work, but in all honesty, almost any job these days, I need a camera that has internal ND too. So in the end, a c70 or now a c400 is just a better investment for consistency. R5C's battery life is just brutal, likely because of the fans, so in the end I really think it's still better off as a c cam.
@avdcam I get it. I rig my r5c out wit an external battery 🔋 but still in all I don't have to worry about the camera overheating at all. I'm also a hybrid shooter so I need both video and audio in one camera 📷
Agree, the in-camera upres and noise reduction is peculiar. While it looks like it works great, seems in-cam only will be cumbersome for workflow purposes on larger shoots.
Let’s hope we at least see those features in DPP (and perhaps Lightroom plug-in, but not holding my breath on that one!)
I would have loved to have an updated flip-out screen a.k.a. Sony A7v or A9iii, Zebras in photo mode, and dual-CFExpress cards ;-) ... nevertheless, I pre-ordered right away.
I pre-ordered the R1 and was going to stick with it, but seeing what the R5 is now, compared to it's predecessor, the r5 mk 2 is just better then the r1, for the most part. It'll pair well with my R3
This features isn’t really to canon r5ii, but for canon rf mount, because I will like to see thirt-part full frame lens in canon rf mount.
as a sony shooter myself, I am very jealous of the r5ii (and r5). The r5ii is just such a balanced camera for almost all photography jobs, and sony just doesn't have a camera line (a7, a7r, a7s, a9, a1) that fits this higher budget true hybrid profile. The a7rv and a7siii are both around the same price as the r5ii (a bit cheaper), but they are both specialised for photos or video. We don't have a higher price-range camera that is a good hybrid of photo and video to compete. Our a7iv is a fantastic hybrid, but it is definitely one tier below the r5ii in price and features.
a7iv should get a refresh this year or early next probably. a7r VI will likely show up sometime late next year or early 2026. I think the problem for Canon is like it seems quite trivial for Sony to drop an a7 or a7R that blows this out of the water. They already have the 3-4 year old a1 with almost exactly the required specs. Just trickle that general spec down to the a7 line and suddenly the Canon looks overpriced by $2K. Or they can bring a 61MP stacked sensor to the a7R and blow the r5ii's sensor at least out of the water.
@@JMurph2015 right. The main difference in strategy between sony and canon is that canon likes putting faster sensors in all their cameras that shoot up to 30fps. Sony has the technology to completely outpace canon, but they just dont seem to want to make sports cameras under 6000$
You are exactly right. Sony forces you to choose what you want more, and either you sacrifice resolution in their more video-centric cameras or you get cropped footage in their photo-centric cameras.
@@johannvantassel4604 you misunderstood. Sony haven't released anything this generation was my point. You can't accuse them of "only making $6000+ sports cams" when that was just the single most recent model refresh. All of the other cameras that are being compared are like 2-3 years old, so about 1/2-3/4 through their refresh cycles. They almost certainly *will* one-up Canon in terms of specs in one way or another in about a year when they update their other lines. It's an open question how they will do that, even more overmatched specialist cameras or pivoting toward a generalist approach. Remember the a1 is a 3 year old design, the a7R V is 2 years old, the a7 IV is 2.5 years old. These are old models. Comparing them to the R5ii is not apples-to-apples.
@@AnthonyGugliotta but the R5 (and R5ii) will overheat while doing it, so is it really a true hybrid? Just playing devils advocate. I'm sure even if it makes it through 30 minutes at a time, that is very usable. However, that isn't a true replacement to something like the FX3 which simply doesn't have that problem.
Biggest deal breaker not addressed:
Still no 3rd party ff lenses
RF to pl mount is your friend :p
@@panaredman lol
That's why I primarily shoot Sony and only buy RF lenses that cannot be found on Sony.
@@frankfeng2701 which RF lenses cannot be found on sony?
I'm not into buying multiple different camera brands and lenses
There are 3rd party ff lenses ...i have 1 so get out from under the rock you live on ...mpb has used 3rd party lenes for sale
Missing quite a few things if you ask me:
No vertical grip and bigger battery built into body (if the R1 was 45mp this wouldn’t be an issue) to power both focus motors on the big wildlife lenses. No vertical grip with button alignment that matches the regular grip. No 4K 60 hq. No fix for the buffer that stops all shooting rather than shooting at a lower fps. No sensor readout to match the older A1, Z9, Z8 etc. and rolling shutter may be an issue.
For the money, and when I was interested, I thought it would come with the Sony tilty flippy screen. GH7 has it. Photos!
As predominantly a stills shooter, I would have loved to see a 2024 version of pixel shift which outputs a single RAW file and also has the best motion compensation on the market. This file should be easily opened in Lightroom/Photoshop. You then would have a truly universal camera that could do events, wildlife, sports and high resolution landscape. It would be an absolute no brainer buy.
I wonder if this leaves space for Canon to introduce an actual high res 100mp or 60mp body?
I ditched the R6 because it would not allow me to use lens stabilisation without IBIS. Seriously found IBIS to be destructive and intrusive. Not just the jello. The irreparable effect was it sticking during panning, so people would jump 4 feet in one frame after the camera figured out that they were actually meant to be moving in the frame.
So being able to use stabilised lenses on a fixed sensor (no IBIS) is my ticket.
ANTHONY!!! I need your help, please. In about 5 weeks I'll be purchasing either an R3 or an R5II.
I have an R8 and have been wanting the higher 45 MP of the R5, but my understanding is that it doesn't do as well with sports.
l'm upgrading camera bodies in September and have been mainly considering the R3 or now the R5II now that it's out and are comparable in price ($4k for the R3 brand new currently at B&H, $4,299 for the R5II + I always use a battery grip so we're talking around $4,500). I'm still currently leaning towards the R3, waiting for more hands-on reviews with the R5II.
My main interest is shooting people; I've recently shot a niece's engagement, wedding and reception photos, a nephew's Prom photos of 5 couples, family photos, portraits, etc. This all obviously had me leaning towards the R5 (or R5II now).
And while I honestly have been quite satisfied with results of the 24 MP on my R8, I have a friend who has an R5 and I do of course see the benefits of being able to crop/zoom in, larger prints and whatnot.
However, I have also recently gotten into sports photography since I currently have three young teenagers (TRIPLETS, one daughter, two sons) who are and will continue to be in sports for at least the next 5 years (swim team, basketball, baseball/ softball, lacrosse, football/ flag, volleyball), which ultimately is leaning me again towards the R3.
So for the moment, my conclusion is that the R3 gives me the best of both worlds in regards to what I shoot or will be shooting. Plus I freaking love the integrated grip.
I was hoping that the R5II would be an improvement where I could use it adequately for sports, to essentially be an R3 with 45 MP. What are your thoughts on using the R5II for sports, vs the R3?
And I would have even considered splurging for an R1, but with 24 MP, for now I would rather go with an R3. Would you recommend that I splurge for the R1?
Please let me know your thoughts.
And thank you for the great content you create!
R5C II will be coming surely.
This camera only shoots 8k60p RAW format. (Still) no 4k60p Fine mode or compressed 8k60p recording options, as it can't handle it even with the cooling grip.
Also, the R5C comes with cropped RAW recording options, the R5II only has line-skipped full-frame S-RAW, which is quite useless.
There is definitely the need for a R5C mkii.
I have to disagree with your point on the R5II is a replacement to the R5C. Unless a Canon rep have told you so, there is just so much the R5C offers made it better not only than the R5, but still better than the R5II for video. There is clearly a market for compact full frame mirrorless for filmmaking and unless the C70 II downsizes to become like the R5, Canon would be making a terrible choice not keep the competition going and make cameras for video first hybrid shooters. The R5II simply is a replacement to the R5, for photo 1st creatives
addressing the flippy screen:
on my r6, before switching to nikon...
I found that I held the camera right in front of me, when using the screen... tucked my arms against my body to get it more stable... and the screen was angled just this tiny little bit, so I was watching completely straight at it while angling my head slightly to the left. The "focal plane of my eye" was perfectly aligned with the screen🤔
The R5 mkii is a nice evolution from the mki, no doubt.
But at the end of the day it still will overheat. So there is no question a R5C mkii is needed ☝🏻
Honestly the dealbreaker for me is the fact it’s mirrorless.
I hate the fact that the market pull has forced a move to mirrorless and away from DSLR, I wish they’d continue both
I think the camera should be one for taking still photography, if you want a professional grade video recorder, doesn’t anyone make them anymore?
As a still photographer, I think the R5ii is fantastic.
Do you recommend this for sports photography please?
Re: IBIS, It is interesting Canon is delineating a different amount of stops correction for the middle of sensor vs the edge (8.5 center, 7.5 edges). Odd! 🤷♂️
I hope they add user LUTs in a firmware update. They need to start making some quality wireless mics, too.
Everything I can do in loghtroom, I can do in photoshop.... why do you use light room? It's easier to do basic photo adjustments.
Why is everyone focusing on the video capabilities of stills camera then?
I am a photographer, I dabble in video. I have used my t6s and 5dsr as backup video, but use a Sony camcorder for primary video. Because...its easier to use what it was primarily designed for....
Hi Anthony, interesting clip! About my special interest in other features: There seems to be still only anywhere between 17 and 22 minutes until shutdown in 120P - even with the new grip. That's not really pro video for wildlife shooters that are waiting sometimes far longer for the one perfect action moment...which might have a black-out camera due to standby 120P overheating :-( .
And as Marco points out: More HQ downsampling 4K from 8K modes are required (60P, 120P).
What I didn't hear / read at all is if the AF capabilities in video mode have changed, there was plenty room for improvement in wildlife like absolutely unstable animal detection as soon as the movement of the animla stopped.
Only thing I missed was a possibility to jam timecode. Blackmagic pocket cameras accepts timecode through the 3.5mm mic jack. Sony FX3, A1, A7SIII can do timecode input over the USB connection. The R5II has been positioned as the small and light B camera to C400 given the codecs, CLOG2 and so much more. Timecode is the final piece to being able to easily slot the R5II into a production. Sure you can do audio timecode and convert later, but you loose the mic input. Sony gets around that. Blackmagic has the XLR inputs. Canon has the multi-shoe adapter to XLR from Tascam but from what I've heard it is shit. Canon really should make a 1st party XLR adapter to utilize the 4-audio channels they now have.
I think it was missed opportunity that they didn’t put time code or sdi on the cooling grip that would be much more useful than the Ethernet connection
@@TomislavMoze likely not enough bandwidth in the interconnect between the body and the grip for an SDI, but timecode would be possible. Really hope they can do the USB route that Sony did. Sony added that as a firmware update to their cameras. One can hope
If you look at the specifications for the CA-XLR2d, it has an EIN of -120db compared to -126 for the Tascam portacapture X8, and -133 for the metric halo uln-8 (a $4,000 audio unit), so I wouldn't call it "Shit". (maximum gain of 66 db for the CA-XLR2d). Panasonic, sony and red don't even publish those specs for their on-camera interfaces, and delegating the audio subsystem to Tascam frees up canon engineering staff to work on other aspects of the camera. I'm not happy with the performance of the lumix DMW-XLR unit - you can definitely hear the noise floor with 34 db of gain and fully professional mics, but I think the Tascam would be OK for run and gun. If you want pristine sound you should record separately and glue it together in post anyway.
@@KeithSklower true. The preamps in the Tascam is perfectly fine, and true. If you want pro audio that is done externally. That is another argument for the timecode input. My point with it being shit is more to the build quality. There are tons of reports of them dying. Look up the reviews of the unit on B&H.
We need someone to make a solid smartshoe audio interface
Well I really hope that the noise levels have been really improved upon, and the dynamic range as well, because while filming in well lit conditions was a breeze for the R5, it did suffer in poor lighting, and I always wished it was a bit cleaner in the higher ISO settings. On the photo side, I really never had anything to complain about. The photos I got out of the Camera after upgrading from the 90D were sharper, and as time went on, I just became a better photographer.
I've got my fingers crossed and will make another video as soon as I've tested it
I would add - the eye tracking is a really great feature for R5 mark ii, but unfortunately limited to just photo. Would have been a game changer if it was also for video.
That can't be right, the R5 has eye tracking in video so I am sure the R5II alao has it.
@@mattdamarell nah I was referring through the viewfinder aka Canon's Eye Control AF. It wasn’t in R5; it’s in R3 but apparently it’s fairly basic - hit or miss. Reports are saying though R5 mark II has it and it’s amazing but only for photos.
They are making an R5c II. Canon said this brand is not going anywhere as it is popular among consumers
If you are stuck with some other brand or can not afford new camera you make so many excuses, or simply make a video for clicks.
A cupholder will be a nice touch. Otherwise it is OK.
I was hoping for a place to store my sunglasses tbh
upgrading simply just comes down to whether or not someone WANTS to, absolutely zero reason to do so if you have the mark i. but because of GAS people will convince themselves they should
I was waiting for this camera and put down a pre order but I don’t think I’ll be getting it. I have a canon dslr and was looking to upgrade but the standard flippy screen drives me nuts, for low angle landscapes shots it’s annoying to constantly have to pull it out and rotate it where the z8 just articulates perfectly. No back button illumination (I think). I think the z8 will suit me better. Yes I KNOW the back screen issue is petty but if I’m dropping $4000 on a camera I’m going to get one with the features I want.
Stop whining and go get the Z8 - why waste time if that camera has what you need. I was gonna buy a Ferrari then realised it is overpriced… lol
Canon please put Apple Pro Res in the next R5ii firmware update
What about the colour science in comparison with the older Canon cameras
were you talking about david scott bowles?
Whats missing on the R5ii? Well, I would never be able to afford one... but i don't understand the CFXpress and V90 SD single card setup on a system that shoots 8k by professionals that would probably need/want dual recording. A photographer could get away with 2 different card speeds. But a videographer, to which Canon seems to have put a big effort into attracting potential buyers to the R5ii, would be crippled by this. Or at the very least, run the risk losing footagenfor their client.
I think if I was a working photographer/videographer making money off this camera but can't justify something like the R1, this would be the biggest drawback.
I think the main reason for CFexpress and SD card is heat management, Z8 did the same. The big problem with cfxpress type B is the heat that cards generate.
@TomislavMoze
But this is the only thing I can think of that's missing from the R5ii. If everyone that Anthony is talking to is saying Global Shutter, I think lack of dual CFXpress card is a bigger one. If Canon does break out a GS camera, I think it'll be a new dedicated line first and not a next gen camera yet. They still have an R2, R4, and R9 designations.
The face recognition feature has been on sony bodies for like 10+ years. 4:39
The auto focus in this camera is amazing. Class leading
Excellent camera, superb for any levels of photography.
why not these companies bring ssd recording?
HDMI 2.0 has 18 gigabits of bandwith. Most cameras I've read about only have the 10 gigabit USB version.
Could you please tell me should I use screen protector for my MacBook m3 pro? I mean does it really help to protect screen? Please lmk 🙏🏻
The only thing I would have wanted is all 4k is downsampled. I think it still line skips with the standard 4k unless you shoot HQ. Aside from that though I think right now we are at the point where consumer cameras have peaked. There’s not much else these things can do.
Agreed
File transfer and wireless connection to smartphone still need major improvement on modern cameras.
2:52 you know Canon 60D ? my friend still used it till this day and he never had screen problem. and my second friend who has A7ii, A6000 series, fuji X-T 2 all have replace the flexible cable of the screen. minimal is 2 times ... the flexible cable it will broken in about 1 or 2 year. bro i choose durability over fancy.
Canon didn’t give us dual CFexpress B slots
Peters video where he mentioned the ibis and I was sad to see it absolutely did not look like they fixed that.
the R5 mark ii should fireware update that adds a yatch, a 3 story aparment, 1 gigapixel upscaling that can be exported RAW. 2,000 fps 45mp, a super car, annnd a grill.
other then that, the camera fine for now
Seems reasonable 🤣
The R5C Mark II should be great
I really hope they make an r5c Mark II. Clog 2 and a full size hdmi port is missing what kill me with the r5c. Adding this new sensor to it would also be amazing.
2 BIG DEAl BREAKERS: 4k60 is line skipped and overheats faster than in regular R5.
I get my R5 2 on Thursday. I have a c70 so I am hoping the video is as crispy as my C70
put an xlr option like the c70 or fx3
As a video shooter, the Mark II is a solid camera, now. However, when you find out the limitations with combinations of Long GOP, All-I, frame rates, codecs, plus the need to buy the cooling grip, and invest in RF lenses (because of the horrendous 3rd party interaction)... then switching to the Canon ecosystem is just no a viable option. If you are already a Canon user... congrats... Canon just reached in your pocket for another whopping fistful of cash. Too many other affordable options out there now doing very well to jump ship.... heck the Lumix S5IIx is a VERY capable camera with open gate, video centric features, and that sweet IBIS. At less than 2k... its a far more sensible choice. And int he meantime, we still have to hear from Sony.... an A7S4 could be the gamechanger. Or not.... they manufacturers all play the stay away from the perfect camera game.
I think the R5ii will be my 1st full frame.
Seems like a good catch-up refresh for this Canon price category though I’m not sure how many of the AI features will stand the test of time. Internal upscaling seems quite gimmicky. Will there be another R5C? I tend to doubt it though maybe a C50 could come along based on the R5II with some I/O add ons and eliminating the shutter and most of the stills features? That might be a better approach.
I'm thinking this as well. We need a dedicated $3000ish c50-style cinema camera. The r5c was a weird hybrid product.
By now Canon cameras has become the Iphone of photography world:
- Overprice
- Closed ecosystem
- Subpar specs
- Their "new features" already presented on other brands cameras years ago, and they marketing it as "revolutionary"
- Pretty much the same every year
Another great vid Ant, thanks!
Question for you/community here: Know if the R5 II will work with the newer “Multi-Camera Control App”?
Putting WiFi 6e is a pretty big deal imo, offloading on-the-go is going to be *much faster experience, but seriously hoping to see we can control video via the very capable MCC app 🤞🤞
appreciate the insight sir, thanks!
Still has the wobble, still has line skipped 4k60, still overheats, in fact it overheat faster than the regular R5. Hmm
pre-order offers are missing 😅😂
no horizon level while recording and no dual (full res) recording has me looking towards Sony... or just about anywhere else...
the new battery grips are a money grab.
I am not sold on the R5ii. Those aren't the dealbreakers for me. However, I am SOLD on your CONTENT because you are the Next Peter McKinnon and Matti H, representing Canon. Keep doing your thing, SIR!
Thanks for the support! 🫶🏻
How could you?? cleaning after such a shoot and not showing us some best tips to clean the camera after that? lol Please do one
Personally I think I will upgrade my R5 to the mark2 but later, when prices go down just a bit, cause for me, I would benefit of the new capabilities but as a hobby photographer they are not such a must.
1 thing I do hope we get more settings for on an upcoming update is the pre-shoot, we should be able to lower or extend it and change the amount of photos.
That honestly would be a good video idea. Next time I'll make one!
@@AnthonyGugliotta Please do, can be really useful for some people in some times
Hello anthony, can i ask ehy did you remive the r6mii as your b-camera? Are you going to have your R5 as the bcam now and the R5II as the main cam🤌🏻
45 Megapixels is not a good size for 4K video. Trying to downscale it to 4K or HD causes all kinds of headaches, heat, and compromises. The R1, R6 and R8 produce better video with fewer problems.
The sensor is a big upgrade tbh
And a big price increase sadly :(
Yeah :(
@@tonygerassi1502$400 more. which isn’t a “big increase” in my opinion. Plus with inflation.
There is no oversampling in 4k 60p, there is no IBIS in 8 raw and they say that C-Log2 only works in 4k 30p and of course there is no DGO, it's sad!
Interesting, first time I'm hearing no Ibis in 8k... That's weird.
Camera looks great. Lens selection is severely lacking
For hybrid shooter video codecs is a bummer
12800 ISO is also a bit cleaner than 10000 ISO. Also a hidden Canon Feature for those devices that share the R5 sensor 🙂
New batteries and another battery grip? R1 all the way baby!
Canon lover ❤
The R5 can be obtained for like $2000 less than the new R5ii. Is there anything this unit has that is worth an extra $2000? To me, no, not really.
Deal breakers dont exist if you have an outdated camera like my Eos R
I mean, I’ve got a 1DX and the dealbreaker for me is the fact it’s mirrorless.
I’ll hold on to my DSLRs for as long as I can. Im genuinely sad the market has moved to mirrorless
I would love to know which Quick release straps are those. I have been wainting to get one but the horror stories of them breaking and letting the camera hit the ground have me second guessing. Is there any good quality and trustworthy quick release straps you could recomend?
peak design strap clips, 4 years 0 problems
This camera will be the standard for years to came. An R5 with Clog 2 and 16ish steps of dynamic range, is deal breaking. De best balance camera for video was the A7sIII, but a photographer first won't ever buy that camera. Now, you have the best of photo and the best off video in the same body with R5II. Missing features? Double base ISO.
Even without dual iso, the video I've seen at high ISO is cleaaaaan
How's that off-axis screen in pro setup? So cheap...
9:31 I don’t think the A9iii has been a failure. Like you said, it is a niche camera and I think the R1 is a missed opportunity. Don’t forget last weeks famous picture of trump was taken on an A9iii, I think those who would utilize these tools have them and us general public look for more mainstream multipurpose cameras rather then a 120 fps raw camera lol
The AP also has a deal with Sony, so it's not necessarily the photographer's choosing the system as much as it is the system that they're told to use.
Yeah the a9iii and the a1 are not cameras that sell like at a7iii. Niche market for certain professionals.
really got people switching to nikon out here 😭
4k 120 fps is still line skipped:(
What about the 30 mint record limit?
😅R8/R6ii oversampled 4k 60. R5ii NO oversampled 4K 60! Deliberate or hardware lacking?
I like canon now but what should i do if i’m a sony shooter ?
Sony shooters should enjoy their E-mount lenses and wait for A1ii and FX9ii.
to offer more of a nuanced approach than @@frankfeng2701, you should probably think really hard about whether it is worth it or not to switch to RF-mount glass. it is quite a commitment, so be sure to weigh pros and cons carefully.
The flippy screen is still not L-Bracket friendly.
Are you sure with audio in slowmotion? Because on US Canon website is this note in R5mk2 specs: With [High Frame Rate: Enable] setting, no audio is recorded and the movie is played in slow motion at 29.97 fps (NTSC) /25.00 fps (PAL) when played back. Its actually most annoying thing on R5 for me.
They make it sound like you can get 120p without going into high frame rate. It's not clear though.
Several people who have used the camera report there is a high speed mode that can record audio and playback at full speed. But ther eis also the modes like before where it conforms it to slo mo in camera with no audio. You should be able to do both.
But here’s the REAL deal breaker………
Did they fix the digital level disappearing as soon as you start recording a video?
Curious as well. Seems like a silly easy fix.
maybe get the camera and make this video after ?
does this work with the canon Multicam app?
Does it have a sensor cover?
Oversampled 4k60 is definitely missing.
Hopefully they fix it with firmware.
That's a weird one, and some how I feel incorrect given that the R5 has 4k HQ already
@@AnthonyGugliotta not 4K60 and up. That was not oversampled on the R5mk1. Even the OG R6 is widely recognized to have sharper 4k60.
@@bobdrummondfilms5402 very true. My main reason why I sticked with the R6.
3 DEALBREAKERS???
PRICE. PRICE. and. PRICE!!!!!
R5c still has the cinema line OS..
I didn’t get oversampled 4k 60p.. something that the R5 C has been doing for almost 2 years now.
It's something the original R5 also didn't have but then they added it later. I imagine it will get it
@@AnthonyGugliotta I didn’t know the R5 ever had that. I do hope they add it sooner rather than later.
@@AnthonyGugliottacanon R5 doesn’t have 4K60HQ only R5c has it.
@@TomislavMoze Sorry, you're right. The R5 only has it for 24 and 30p, not 60p
This is one hell of a tool for $4200, that's all you need to know.