I am going to be doing Thumbnails like this for a couple of days, would love more feedback on if you like this type of thumbnails or think it's over the top?
I hope all is well, Viper. Thank you for making these videos. I wish I was a fraction of the player you are I'm terrible lol. Anyway I personally think the videos are more appealing when you have the title of your video in your thumbnail as you've been doing for some time.
I find it amazing that you casually answer questions from chat while doing all that stuff ingame.. I can barely let my tc constantly work while scouting. The APM and multitasking is sick..
When you're really good at a strat game it becomes 2nd nature to you, you have to focus on micro but on macro it should become easier and easier as soon as you *get* what your build orders economy etc should look like.
like what the other guy said, the better you are at the game, the less you have to think about what you are doing... like for example, a world champion boxer could probably knock you out flat without thinking about it, while if i wanted to knock you out, i'd have to give it some thought on how to do it
Its like playing the guitar and singing. Easy when you are comfortable with the guitar. Seems impossible when you start. However, performance is affected. We've never really seen true viper in that way. In a few rare games on here he has gone quiet and started playing faster and faster. When he gets 'in the zone' is when he pulls off his ridiculous comebacks he is famous for. So basically, he does play like you when streaming, proportional to his skill level.
Huge +1 from me for Witcher 3. Lot's of great game suggestions, but I would love to see you play what is arguably one of the games of the decade! Since the COVID lockdown, I have started gaming more so I got Witcher 3 on sale. I probably spent 100+ hours gaming with 50+ on Age on 50+ on Witcher. It's a fantastic change of style and pace from competitive Age that you can just chill and go single-player. A modern game where the graphics still look fresh (though would recommend HD reworked mod which is great). Imagine Viper making story-changing decisions with FTL low latency chat - I'm a longtime Viper viewer and would definitely tune in!
Subnautica definitely deserves some love as well, I'm surprised that wasn't suggested already. There's a sequel on the way, currently in open beta, but the original is really good as well.
Portal 2 with Daut would be hilarious. Love to see some Daut Portals. If Viper likes the Tycoon, go with a classic like Rollercoaster Tycoon (can use the open RCT mod or whatever for Rollercoaster Tycoon ).
Fun fact - the war you played here actually happened, but rather with Tatars than with Mongols. (But they technically are the same thing.) It's also reflected in the book "With Fire and Sword" by Henryk Sienkiewicz. I could kinda recommend it to you if you have time for it.
Yellow Mongols Viper. A nostalgic classic. RimWorld or FrostPunk would both be nice. They're both games where the entire point is trying to survive against a game that is actively trying to kill you, and that makes for great streams.
Viper playin Witcher ? Sign me up fam. Or Mass Effect maybe ? Whatever either one would be awesome once a week or so. Dark Souls would also be awesome it is everything but a chill game tho.
Some chill games I have played recently: Outer Wilds - 100% playable via controller, great emersion, puzzle exploration game... Probably my favourite game i have played in a long time Dicey Dungeons - quirky rng puzzle game (FTL is in the same vein as this), 100% playable on a controller Terraria - platformer / 2d minecraft, 100% playable on controller
divinity 2 is a different game, divinity original sin 1 and 2 is the multiplayer one. the divinity franchise is almost as old as diablo give or take a bit, and has more games than just original sin
Plumes and Cavalry Archers need more military, and their fire rate isn't as good as Mangudai, but they can still do it. Mangudai really shine at it though, less risk involved.
I think bannerlord is good to play again and I think it will be a game you will like a lot, since it has a lot of chill and tactics in it where you also can do whatever you want. For the chillness I would recommend easier settings so you and your troops dont die so quick.
I wonder if that's a good idea to add some Hussar to this army. I tried to go full Mangudai before the 30 min mark, but the numbers weren't enough to do it.
The walls that he deletes are usually the ones at the back of the base or walls that are against woodlines. There's no way into his base for the opponent. So, no harm deleting them. Base remains protected. Only sometimes he deletes his forward walls. That's either when he is confident enough or in team games to allow free movement of trade carts.
@@Dastanned i think its just an unnecessary flex, walls hinder in no way your trade with allies as there are gates, Confidence ? Why take the risk of being scout rushed ?
@@housshil3675 I don't know if you play the game or not but I guess u will have a better understanding when u play more arena games. He isn't inviting enemy scouts by deleting walls. He is still fully walled by the wood line. The wall generation in arena can be pretty random and unnecessary. When I play, I instant delete the walls that I don't need and know for sure that I m never gonna need them in the future. As for trade, it makes pathing easier without walls and gates. But he would have already strategically walled elsewhere to protect his trade route. Watch his Khmer siege masterpiece game against Hera. 1v1 game where he deletes his forward walls.
have you played any xcom or xcom2? recommended edit: just got to the part where you know of it. anyway, it's a fun turn-based tactical combat game with some light overworld/base strategy management. i really like playing it in ironman so that my choices matter more and i can't revert to saves.
skyrim got some mod recently that is supposed to me like new dlc, thou there we lot good other options too. And portal with Daut would be amazing, amount of trolling.
If you somehow can't get anything else to work, they are an option against trash units in ultra late game against civs that can't counter them well. That being said... just micro your cav. Hussar +Mangos is a composition with few counters.
Maybe if you're playing against goth and somehow let them get to their imp infantery spam. Cause mangudai can't hold ground against huskarls, and halbs shred hussards. I don't rly see another situation where that would be needed
I noticed someone asked this in the chat, but wouldn't elite skirms and onagers been more successful instead of halbs? Maybe opponent was worried about Viper making a transition to light cavalry.
Just to add to the thousands of game suggestions you already got on Twitch and will get here: Settlers 4 is a pretty chill old school game (good music too) There should be a newer steam version too, although I am not sure how buggy that one is New thumbnails are good^^
Viper doesn't always take ranked games seriously so be careful, he makes pretty much any strategy look like a winning strategy. Going for mangudai so early wasn't necessarily the best strat. But the tip about using groups of 10 mangudai to snipe onagers was great though.
Think his opp handed it to em a bit though. First unit he sees is mangudai and he precedes to mass onagers? May as well spam champions against war elephants you'd get about as far
ass ass creed black flag is in my top 10 most underrated games ever if you haven't played that... i feel as though you may have though... also good prep for ass ass norsemen
Is there a good UA-cam video which compares AoE2 to Starcraft? A UA-camr I like made one, but it was about all of Age of Empires, specifically AoM and AoE3, which I feel are simplified/more casual. I’d like to see a direct comparison between AoE2 and Starcraft. Maybe a quick 5-7 min video of your opinion Viper?
I'm no Viper, but I can tell you that SC2 is much more "micro" focused since the economic aspect is really simplified with only two resources. It compensates by featuring a greater variety of units with lots of abilities on cooldowns which I've always found a bit gimmicky. The other main difference is the existence of only three races, which despite being fundamentally different, results in only six possible combinations, including three mirrors. This makes strategizing somewhat trivial.
Some comments on the Witcher, first is cool but a lot of running around and buggy, 2 has a different combat and found it hard to play, would say Witcher 3 would maybe be your best bet. Would be fun to watch 👍🏽. Total war would be fun to watch but very heavy once you get far into a game I think. Crusader kings 2 is definitely one of the best RTS’ out there, a lot to do if you can get into that style of games
I want to see The Viper play FTL. Maybe that’s weird but I think the AOE 2 skills would translate well and the commentary would be hilarious. Rimworld would also be interesting.
oh and I forgot, some may think roll in this game work like dark souls but it doesn't, no invincible frame for you, specially when you fight again human enemies
Captain Squirrel i said lower difficulty, not lowest. I wouldnt recommend death march as the difficulty for the first playthrough if you want to take it easy?
Slav skirms are pretty bad with no bracer, and Viper can mix in hussard pretty easily anyway. I just think at that point he was already too behind, he invested a lot for the relics, lost all, and couldn't keep the mangudai from massing
@@gokhansonmez7983 Yeah but he can't do both fully upgraded skirms, and halbs at the same time so early in imp, he couldn't possibly have had the eco for it. And if you do a mix of halbs and skirms, you will have a strong mass of neither
I feel like Stellaris could be the sort of game Viper wants for more laid back play such a chill game with time for chat. Maybe even a bit too slow tbh.
I am going to be doing Thumbnails like this for a couple of days, would love more feedback on if you like this type of thumbnails or think it's over the top?
Its a great thumbnail. Plain thumbnails looks kinda serious.
I like it!
I hope all is well, Viper. Thank you for making these videos. I wish I was a fraction of the player you are I'm terrible lol. Anyway I personally think the videos are more appealing when you have the title of your video in your thumbnail as you've been doing for some time.
Wellll, maybe for some is nice and interesting but I think many people are here for the content which is great already.
A thumbnail without Daut's face will never get an approval from me.
I find it amazing that you casually answer questions from chat while doing all that stuff ingame.. I can barely let my tc constantly work while scouting. The APM and multitasking is sick..
When you're really good at a strat game it becomes 2nd nature to you, you have to focus on micro but on macro it should become easier and easier as soon as you *get* what your build orders economy etc should look like.
like what the other guy said, the better you are at the game, the less you have to think about what you are doing... like for example, a world champion boxer could probably knock you out flat without thinking about it, while if i wanted to knock you out, i'd have to give it some thought on how to do it
Its like playing the guitar and singing. Easy when you are comfortable with the guitar. Seems impossible when you start. However, performance is affected. We've never really seen true viper in that way. In a few rare games on here he has gone quiet and started playing faster and faster. When he gets 'in the zone' is when he pulls off his ridiculous comebacks he is famous for.
So basically, he does play like you when streaming, proportional to his skill level.
This was disgustingly clean. I love how you discussed your strategy in detail. Very engaging
Man, you and Daut playing Portal would be hilarious
19:00 sotl approves of that tech
Huge +1 from me for Witcher 3. Lot's of great game suggestions, but I would love to see you play what is arguably one of the games of the decade! Since the COVID lockdown, I have started gaming more so I got Witcher 3 on sale. I probably spent 100+ hours gaming with 50+ on Age on 50+ on Witcher. It's a fantastic change of style and pace from competitive Age that you can just chill and go single-player. A modern game where the graphics still look fresh (though would recommend HD reworked mod which is great). Imagine Viper making story-changing decisions with FTL low latency chat - I'm a longtime Viper viewer and would definitely tune in!
your casual perfect micro whilst maintaining good macro and eco at home is incredible. Great video as always.
Subnautica definitely deserves some love as well, I'm surprised that wasn't suggested already. There's a sequel on the way, currently in open beta, but the original is really good as well.
I second Subnautica, it's a work of art from start to finish.
Portal 2 with Daut would be hilarious. Love to see some Daut Portals.
If Viper likes the Tycoon, go with a classic like Rollercoaster Tycoon (can use the open RCT mod or whatever for Rollercoaster Tycoon ).
Thumbnail good, explaining and giving insight also good
Fun fact - the war you played here actually happened, but rather with Tatars than with Mongols. (But they technically are the same thing.) It's also reflected in the book "With Fire and Sword" by Henryk Sienkiewicz. I could kinda recommend it to you if you have time for it.
Yellow Mongols Viper. A nostalgic classic.
RimWorld or FrostPunk would both be nice. They're both games where the entire point is trying to survive against a game that is actively trying to kill you, and that makes for great streams.
Viper playin Witcher ? Sign me up fam. Or Mass Effect maybe ? Whatever either one would be awesome once a week or so. Dark Souls would also be awesome it is everything but a chill game tho.
Hmm. Winds howling.
Oh mass effect would be dope
@@ShogunMura Agreed
Some chill games I have played recently:
Outer Wilds - 100% playable via controller, great emersion, puzzle exploration game... Probably my favourite game i have played in a long time
Dicey Dungeons - quirky rng puzzle game (FTL is in the same vein as this), 100% playable on a controller
Terraria - platformer / 2d minecraft, 100% playable on controller
What was the purpose of patrolling the mangudai near the monk?
Portal 2 is a great game.
Any kind of city building or tycoon game you might find relaxing.
every viper game is an Amazing Learn for me. Interesting stuff.
Oh boi! Watching my favourite player playing my favourite civ and focusing on how to micro my favourite unit! :D
I kind of liked KCD, the only thing that irritated me were cumans with bracers...
Have you considered playing Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge?
The VOD qualities here on UA-cam seems amazing.
gg
Play Divinity 2 with the Secret boys, that has the potential to be hilarious...
Came here just to suggest the same thing, good strategy, funny teamwork and very chill game for Biper to play
Baldur's Gate III (also from Larian but with more money and resources behind it) when it comes out.
divinity 2 is a different game, divinity original sin 1 and 2 is the multiplayer one.
the divinity franchise is almost as old as diablo give or take a bit, and has more games than just original sin
Viper! I love your new thumbnails. It goes well with your funny charming character.
Please stick to it. Fan from 🇬🇧
Would it be different if MrGreed (Blue player) made skrimishers instead of halbadiers?
Is it doable with plumes or CA as well or is it the mangudai bonus vs siege that plays a major role?
Plumes and Cavalry Archers need more military, and their fire rate isn't as good as Mangudai, but they can still do it. Mangudai really shine at it though, less risk involved.
would your foe be in a better spot had he gone mass skirmish instead of mass spike? and rams rather than onagers?
pls tell counter for magudai spam? thanx a lot in advance :)
22:45 Can't he just spread some onager fire over an area manually?
He misses almost all shots
that was the mistake. he never target fired. if that Slav player would be MBL this would be tougher for Viper.
Vipey why is your volume so low on your videos? I always need to level up my volume to compesate it.
I think bannerlord is good to play again and I think it will be a game you will like a lot, since it has a lot of chill and tactics in it where you also can do whatever you want. For the chillness I would recommend easier settings so you and your troops dont die so quick.
What would you do if you havent got mangudai
Slay the spire is a very strategic deep game, with no apm needed, so pretty chill. But much to learn
To the list of game suggestions. I’d like to add Braid.
What Mod swaps the UI so the map is in the middle?
Portal 2 with Daut sounds incredible. I hope whatever it gets saved for comes soon!
"he was doing the right thing he just sucked" - viper
Incredible play. It must be so annoying to play against you, like this guy had a nice army but was completely helpless against your micro.
Assassin's Creed, witcher, horizon zero dawn, dark souls, red dead 2, gta 5, portal. All good stuff.
I wonder if that's a good idea to add some Hussar to this army. I tried to go full Mangudai before the 30 min mark, but the numbers weren't enough to do it.
13:05 great fight
13:23 and we chilling, as the kids say these days
Why would you ever use siege only against a Civ that has a bonus against siege?
When you highlight farming villagers and use a hotkey, what are you doing?
Are skirms/Onager ever be a good combination against the Mangudai?
it's possible, he should have mixed some skirm with halberdier to avoid being kited like that
well thats super clean
you could play Mindustry, it is some sort of tycoon games with strategy
Did Lierrey quit AOE? Saw some comment about MBL trying to get him to come back so I'm a bit confused
He still plays, he's just not as active as others.
Larry has always quit, Joadn is always back.
I miss JOADN man :'(
Can somebody please tell me why he deletes his walls at the start of the game ? Isn't having an already walled base the purpose of Arena ?
The walls that he deletes are usually the ones at the back of the base or walls that are against woodlines. There's no way into his base for the opponent. So, no harm deleting them. Base remains protected. Only sometimes he deletes his forward walls. That's either when he is confident enough or in team games to allow free movement of trade carts.
@@Dastanned i think its just an unnecessary flex, walls hinder in no way your trade with allies as there are gates, Confidence ? Why take the risk of being scout rushed ?
@@housshil3675 I don't know if you play the game or not but I guess u will have a better understanding when u play more arena games. He isn't inviting enemy scouts by deleting walls. He is still fully walled by the wood line. The wall generation in arena can be pretty random and unnecessary. When I play, I instant delete the walls that I don't need and know for sure that I m never gonna need them in the future. As for trade, it makes pathing easier without walls and gates. But he would have already strategically walled elsewhere to protect his trade route. Watch his Khmer siege masterpiece game against Hera. 1v1 game where he deletes his forward walls.
Endless Sky! (for relax and enjoy single player game), Free open space space rpg sorta thingy
Love the new thumbnails!
Why did you delete the walls at the start?
He has protection from the wood lines. So those are walls are unnecessary
If TheViper plays chess with GMHikaru (as TwoUes suggests at 15:15) I'll die
The snek will also die to Hikaru
We should have a nowergian crossover, the n°1 of AoE vs the n°1 of Chess
have you played any xcom or xcom2? recommended
edit: just got to the part where you know of it. anyway, it's a fun turn-based tactical combat game with some light overworld/base strategy management. i really like playing it in ironman so that my choices matter more and i can't revert to saves.
Try portal 2 MP coop, its the best. i just ended it
skyrim got some mod recently that is supposed to me like new dlc, thou there we lot good other options too. And portal with Daut would be amazing, amount of trolling.
Hi please try Anno 1404(Dawn of Discovery)!
Quick question: Mongols have fully upgraded champions. So is it worth to use them (especially to garrison drilled rams) ?
No, their ram is already fast & no specific bonus for their champions.
If you somehow can't get anything else to work, they are an option against trash units in ultra late game against civs that can't counter them well. That being said... just micro your cav. Hussar +Mangos is a composition with few counters.
Maybe if you're playing against goth and somehow let them get to their imp infantery spam. Cause mangudai can't hold ground against huskarls, and halbs shred hussards. I don't rly see another situation where that would be needed
What’s so nice about being 900/1200 Elo is I never have to worry about finding a game. I found a 4v4 at 4am in 1 minute 20 seconds the other day😂
how to use mangudai effectively: juke like a god
Hello can i have a request, if granted can you have a 1v1 vs extreme AI Long game and no Rushing to them? i want to see how , thanks more power
I noticed someone asked this in the chat, but wouldn't elite skirms and onagers been more successful instead of halbs? Maybe opponent was worried about Viper making a transition to light cavalry.
Just to add to the thousands of game suggestions you already got on Twitch and will get here:
Settlers 4 is a pretty chill old school game (good music too)
There should be a newer steam version too, although I am not sure how buggy that one is
New thumbnails are good^^
A Viper/Daut portal stream... please please please (and upload it to YT)
This is perfect timing for me, I just played arena as Mongols and lost yesterday, so it's good to see what a pro does.
Viper doesn't always take ranked games seriously so be careful, he makes pretty much any strategy look like a winning strategy.
Going for mangudai so early wasn't necessarily the best strat. But the tip about using groups of 10 mangudai to snipe onagers was great though.
Think his opp handed it to em a bit though. First unit he sees is mangudai and he precedes to mass onagers? May as well spam champions against war elephants you'd get about as far
its like 1 year ago and enjoy to watch some random videos from the aoe2 community ;D
17:13 are u cat? those reflexes..
You could play factorio with Daut
24:22 Units lost: 12 vs 142.
Prison architect sounds good btw. Thumbnails are nice but personally I come for the gameplay, serious or not and the chill
Viper thumbnails are becoming G
Vipi you should try Northgard. It's strategy game, but chill and relax as you wish. And it's about vikings.
i dont get why he destroys the wall
Super Mario 64 16-star speedrun
Might be the sweetspot between relaxing and challenging.
Very good!
Y he delete walls?
I have so much dejavu listening to this commentary... like word for word... but I've never been on Mixer. Is it a really old cast?
Two Point Hospital, it's as chill as it gets.
Gameplay starts at 12:00
ass ass creed black flag is in my top 10 most underrated games ever if you haven't played that... i feel as though you may have though... also good prep for ass ass norsemen
Why someone goes siege against Mangudai?
MANGUDAI MONSTERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! neutralize that charge was freaking awesome vipi
No 60fps?? :(
Is there a good UA-cam video which compares AoE2 to Starcraft? A UA-camr I like made one, but it was about all of Age of Empires, specifically AoM and AoE3, which I feel are simplified/more casual. I’d like to see a direct comparison between AoE2 and Starcraft. Maybe a quick 5-7 min video of your opinion Viper?
I'm no Viper, but I can tell you that SC2 is much more "micro" focused since the economic aspect is really simplified with only two resources. It compensates by featuring a greater variety of units with lots of abilities on cooldowns which I've always found a bit gimmicky. The other main difference is the existence of only three races, which despite being fundamentally different, results in only six possible combinations, including three mirrors. This makes strategizing somewhat trivial.
Why didnt anyone mention Crash Bandicoot man :(
perfect player Viper
You know, a Mangudai enters in a bar...
Some comments on the Witcher, first is cool but a lot of running around and buggy, 2 has a different combat and found it hard to play, would say Witcher 3 would maybe be your best bet. Would be fun to watch 👍🏽. Total war would be fun to watch but very heavy once you get far into a game I think. Crusader kings 2 is definitely one of the best RTS’ out there, a lot to do if you can get into that style of games
The old Stronghold , best for old people, i can tell you.
I want to see The Viper play FTL. Maybe that’s weird but I think the AOE 2 skills would translate well and the commentary would be hilarious. Rimworld would also be interesting.
No Mans Sky is a game where you lay back with a controller in your hand and explore. or you can try dark souls 3 11
amazing micros
Yesss witcher 3 is amazing! Just put the difficulty on a lower level, sit back and explore the world. Would love to watch that
just mastered your avoid skill and parry, all mode will be the same to you
Lowest,difficulity really? Even on normal, raiders die to 2 quick attacks.
oh and I forgot, some may think roll in this game work like dark souls but it doesn't, no invincible frame for you, specially when you fight again human enemies
Captain Squirrel i said lower difficulty, not lowest. I wouldnt recommend death march as the difficulty for the first playthrough if you want to take it easy?
play Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds, it's a lot like AoE2 in economy, but the units are different
You should play SUPA MARIO BRODAS 2! GAME OF THE YEAR BABYYYY!
Far Cry 3 or 4 would be great. Terraria is a fun one aswell.
Maybe you would be interested in playing Disco Elysium. It's one of the best RPG ever, chill gameplay, interesting graphics and story is just awesome!
Hmmm that could be interesting.
I really don't understand why he didn't use skirmisher insted of onagers.
Slav skirms are pretty bad with no bracer, and Viper can mix in hussard pretty easily anyway. I just think at that point he was already too behind, he invested a lot for the relics, lost all, and couldn't keep the mangudai from massing
@@SC-mo6fs he had lots of halberdiar so viper couldn't use hussard against skirmishers.
@@gokhansonmez7983 Yeah but he can't do both fully upgraded skirms, and halbs at the same time so early in imp, he couldn't possibly have had the eco for it. And if you do a mix of halbs and skirms, you will have a strong mass of neither
Yeah I think he would have done better mixing skirms with the halbs. I'm 1000 elo tho.
I feel like Stellaris could be the sort of game Viper wants for more laid back play such a chill game with time for chat. Maybe even a bit too slow tbh.
Get all the Team Secret boys in and watch them destroy the galaxy.
00:05 - 00:15 "Black Forest is not in the Map Pool and i don't like playing Black Forest in General" - This comment didn't Age well ;-) :p
You should definitely try out Eu4
I use mongols almost every time I play AoE, so watching you using mangudais is kind of relaxing xD. And why you not try FF7???