Carpenter VS Woodworker
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- Опубліковано 7 січ 2023
- What do you call yourself? What is the difference between a carpenter and a woodworker? And what about a cabinet maker, joiner, or chair maker. How do those fit into woodworkers and carpenters?
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I call myself a woodsmith.
My job has strictly to do with my will to live so I call myself will smith
Legit
😮😊
Some days after a less than average day in the workshop I identify as a Woodbutcher....
😂😂😂
I think the best title would either be "grand producer of wood curls" or "sawdust generator"
In the UK we generally call a someone who works in a shop professionally a Joiner and someone who works professionally on site with wood a Carpenter. Although a Fine Carpenter who builds something in a shop and then fits it onto a building like a door or window we'd call them a Site Joiner. Woodworker is reserved for the hobbyist or someone who doesn't do it as a profession!!
I love this, i live up north, and I'm technically a site carpenter, but we're called joiners, and the company is a 'joinery' company, although we work completely on site... always confused me
In German it is very easy, Zimmermann builds houses and roofs, Tischler makes the interior. Doors, cabinets, tables, chairs etc. you may consult google translate to check what they come up with….
I always thought of a woodworker as someone who pursued it as a hobby, and a carpenter as someone who pursued it as a career.
You learn something new every day. 🤷♀️
Paul Sellers is addressing same issue on his blog today. Paul and you taught me something today - thank you.
"I think modern carpentry has mostly adopted the US methods of stick-frame structuring of walls and trusses none of which is joined with joinery which is why hurricanes and tornadoes have a field day... Nailing is the third component anchoring all components together and replacing joints, something true joiners and furniture makers really use or solely rely on to hold things together. ... In Britain a cabinet maker does not build kitchens and bathrooms as in the USA but is a furniture maker and is unlikely to ever make kitchen and bathroom cabinets. Certainly here in the UK carpenters have followed the USA with all components being stick-framed together where needed and all else air-nailed together for speed and cost."
I frame houses, do trim work, and build furniture so I guess it’s not a problem for me.
I turn boards into so sawdust… I am a destroyer of order.
In Poland there is no such word as "woodworker" there is just carpenter:
Making kitchen cabinets? Carpenter
Making fine furniture? Carpenter
Building roofs? Carpenter
Turning on lathe? Carpenter
I try to explain every time to a person that because I say I am a carpenter I will not make a kitchen for You! I make fine furniture and no I don't know how to build a wooden house! 😁
This seems very easy and extremely complicated all at the same time 😄
Hey I have been learning Polish, would you consider a Luthier (guitar maker) a carpenter?
Not so easy... there is a word, distingushed Professional who work with construction, this is "cieśla"; derivated from "ciosło", which is an adze. Recently "cieśla" is recognized as a roof construction maker, then there is "dekarz", who makes roof decking.
@@christianmartinez9649luthier this will be "lutnik" not so far ...
See I build houses and would love nothing more than to learn to build furniture
Thank You for helping clarify that 👍i went to Delhi N.Y. for Carpenrty in 97 so i always call myself a Carpenter. but i have woren a few hats over the last few years doing complete home renovations thats doing trim drywall even hanging perfab garbage kitchen cabinets in "million$ "homes" even worked hanging drop ceilngs for some years and then helping restore antique furniture using periodic tools and techniques to keep its historic value. verse just destorying it with an orbital sander and polyurethane.
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no matter the hat i wear i started with rough framing so i am a carpenter...
I aspire to do both therefore I typically call myself an apiring carpenter. I want to build houses and learn how everything works... as well as being an skilled woodworker that can build furniture and appliances with beautiful designs. That way I can combine the two hobbies later in life.
I'm a joiner, look it up, I work in my shop and in the field. Thank you for bringing this one up lol
in my language we have woodworker. thats the big term. subcategorys is furniture making, carpenter, and interiour builder. and I see a trent where the more furniture you make the more handtools you have. the more interiours you make, the less handtools you have.
I think you hit the nail on your head with your comment m modern era. My grandpa was born in 1927 and he called himself a carpenter. He spent his whole life as a carpenter, he would do everything from stick framing timber framing building cabinets building doors building furniture. I myself have been in the trades for about 30 years now mostly carpentry of some aspect and home building. I also build furniture doors cabinets but I honestly never thought of what to call myself.......but in today's word it seems as if trades are more specialized finish Carpenter rough Carpenter would worker etc
Both are very broad terms…
(Especially before 2008) A Carpenter could be
Timber framers, Balloon framers, Form carpenters, Trim guys, fence builders, Cabinet makers…. The list goes on.
Woodworker could be a Plane maker, a joiner, antique restorer, chip carver, pattern maker…. “Even the weird guys that electrocute wood” the list goes on.
Typically carpenters have tolerances and allowances where as the “woodworker” has nothing to hide behind.
I personally prefer the term “Gentleman Carpenter” when referring to Carpenters that smell just as good when they finish their work as they did when they first started.
You take wood, turn it into stuff.
that’s a carpenter, it’s a title to be very proud of.
How about a hierarchy of woodworkers with Pattern makers at the top house framers at the bottom and everybody else arguing in the middle?
In the UK I think we call a fine carpenter as joiners which is what I'm trained in though I mainly make furniture now. Over the pond here a carpenter makes the main structure of the house and thr joiner makes things that goes into it like skirting and doors etc
There is a big difference between a carpenter, a finish carpenter, and a woodworker.
I call myself nearly human! LOL
I wish I could call myself either term. I’m currently an apprentice. I make mistakes, and make some progress in learning how to fix them. Next will be how to avoid them…. Long and happy journey
40 years ago as a carpenter's apprentice I was taught that there were framers and trim carpenters.
"how do you identify" that can be pure genius subtle violence 😂
Gather here
Here you go. dfmtoolworks.com/products/a2-steel-dowel-plate I have a few videos showing it news as well.
Just the thought of building something out of wood excites me and makes me want to learn everything there is to know about handling wood. I have yet to master any skills so what does that make me?
The word carpenter originally was used to describe carriage makers according to a channel called Rob Words.
A "woodchuck"... maybe? As a carpenter's informal apprentice, I retrieve wood, cut it, and do whatever else he needs help with. At least I learn a lot (he actively teaches), during the process.
I’ve heard of the term joiner to describe someone who works at a bench and makes furniture.
That's another common one.
Donnell looks like that drunk uncle that dishes out all the time but can’t take it 😂
Back in the day, a carpenter was someone who worked in the field, usually someone who builds houses and the like. And they handle all apects of such things. A joiner was the person who built furniture and such, in a specific place, usually a wood shop. A joiner didn't go into the field.
In my area we say rough carpenter and trim carpenter.
Training to be a carpenter now, cant wait to start building homes for people!
I call my self an engineer u all work for me😂❤
Well your definitions are correct. I am both a finish carpenter and woodworker.
I just collect palettes from the trash behind factories lying to myself I’ll make something out of it😂
I agree with that for sure
Actually now a days Carpenters rarely work on would with how quickly metal studs and from work are expanding
I identify as Eric. I do this thing on occasion where I convince some wood into about the right shape and I feel proud of myself. When on those occasions I wind up with fire wood at the end, I don’t feel proud.
I identity as a circular saw!
My boyfriend wrote this!
He said all are just wood butchers 😂
I Identify as a maker. I work with lots of wood, but that is not my only medium.
I'm a framer but I like the pretty things.
All trades deserve respect, tho
I definitely think it's good to differentiate.
The average person isn't going to know the difference anyway.
I tell people I'm a carpenter and a woodworker because I can build a house and also a cabinet.
Most people think the guys doing their drywall and electricity are also carpenters though😆
" How do you identify?", He says. Lol 😂
Great topic! I like when people say they’re a master carpenter or someone they know is. I say oh wow where’d they get that license?
So, a cabinet maker is a woodworker since he builds cabinets in his shop and installs them in a home. What about a trump carpenter who builds cabinets on site, in place? These we call built-in cabinets. The only real change is the location where the cabinets are built.
I would say that anyone who uses a tool to measure , a tool to square, and fasteners to hold the pieces together during the build process is a carpenter. There are different types of carpentry, but if you aren't just shaping wood (carving figures or turning wood) then you are a carpenter of some kind.
I know cabinetry and finish carpentry. I can install a kitchen and all types of trim and molding. I wouldn't call myself a carpenter. To me a carpenter is a framer. A woodworker, as I know it, is somebody who works in the shop and works with solid wood, not so much compressed wood. In my mind woodworker quickly turns into furniture maker and that is a rung or two above what I do. I can do a lot of things with wood but making furniture is out of my realm, not because of geometry but because of wood species and cuts of grain.
I'm glad there's pretty straight terminology for this in German 😆
In french it's even more complicated. There's "charpentier" which is carpenter, "menuisier" which would be woodworker and "ébéniste" for fine woodworking
I frame houses and tinker with planes and disstons in my garage on the weekends. And I'd agree. Easiest way I distinguish between the two is a carpenter relies on fasteners like nails screws ect. to hold whatever they build together. Woodworking relies on joinery and for the most part has much higher standards for accuracy, asthetics, ect. Ones work and the other is art if u ask me
In may country is called a Carpenter the Guy Who makes thing with wood
In Germany you have "Schreiner" like wood worker in a shop, cabinet maker etc.
And "Zimmermann", building houses, rough work etc.
These are not the same, you have very define job descriptions and qualifications
Every woodworker is a carpenter, every carpenter isn’t a woodworker.
I started framimg at 18 went on to finish at 22 started my own company at 27 and am now 34 with a finiab carpentry business and a woodshop in my garage id rather be called a carpenter than a woodworker i make furniture custom built ins cabinets and i have no problem bwimg called a carpenter if a "woodworker"wants to yalk down on a carpenter i would say 98 percent of carpenters would drop 100 percent of woodworkers in 1 shot to the chin
I identify as a knuckle dragging axe swinger who likes to make things.
I’m a trim carpenter . I would also accept tree manipulator
Ok I will throw this at you all a Scaffolder is In the carpenter's Union In the US. And they work predominantly with metal structure.
That's because scaffolding used to be made of wood. But then buildings got taller and pattent scaffolding came along thus the scaffold erecting folks are carpenters union members and most of the time its erected by the guys on site as just part of the job .
I'm a carpenter by trade. I also have built most of the furniture in my house, Kitchen cabinets and vanities, stairs. I enjoy wood turning. I also restore classic vehicles and can weld. I can plumb and wire house, run an excavator and lay block and brick proficiently. I can do most hvac tasks as well. Yada yada yada, I've learned to do many things in my career. I prefer to be labeled as a carpenter.
Ok for me being female a suppose workers and co workers like to refer to me as being green or newbie which I suppose I’m kind of. Well I grew up helping my dad so I know some but I love to learn. Anyway so I started as preapprentice for carpentry
They helped get my foot in the door I guess so when done they ‘recommended’ I apply labour union and since I’ve been searching for work for awhile I took it. Finished first year training working on gaining hours. Anyway surprised no actually ‘ f kin flabbergasted’ at the line men draw between carpenters and labours. Not sure why they call me a labour at trade school which I go back two more times once hours achieve anyway at school they call me and other like me construction craft worker I like it. But I also love love working with wood but I also like concrete no kin clue as to why. I like how you define carpenters but at my previous work site all the carpenters tgere call themselves carpenters I mean I’ve been around carpenters my entire life nearly my entire family the guys are all carpenters. At worker we do form work for concrete and concrete pours it’s what they trained us to do
But when both union workers f labours and carpenter are involved these young lads some 26 done a bit older but still working on being fully certified. Anyway the carpenters were the only ones who did the form work. And I was limited to doing set up. Clean up. But it could be my own ignorance
I had to watch this twice since I was laughing at the shirt 😂 also, I identify as a meat popsicle.
Considering that I can't do any of that, what should I call myself?
I tear down the room then rebuild it and then tile the shower so I guess I'm a carpenter cause that's what my boss says haha
Moral of the story , everyone is a wood chucker if they chuck wood 🪵
Love the shirt
Joiner
There are carpenter, Joyner, cabinetmaker, chairmaker, turner, blockmaker, and bodger.
And all of these are mechanycks.
what about coopers?
@@WoodByWrightHowTo oh dang. And I forgot shipwrights, wheelwrights, boatwrights, cartwrights, carriagemakers, and to confuse everyone even more, ship's carpenters.
I define as wanting to learn the skills
What if you build ships?
I like to say I’m a carpenter, however I have no red seal
I want that shirt!
Wouldn't it be "finish carpenter," rather than "fine carpenter"? And a finish carpenter will do things like built-in shelves and the like. But it would be a cabinet maker or woodworker or furniture maker who would do free-standing units or large-scale built-ins (like kitchen cabinetry). For me? I like my wife's uncle's description of himself as a "barn carpenter."
I identify based on what I'm doing. If I'm helping someone build/fix their roof - I'm a carpenter. And will be called as such. If I'm making them a chair after... I'm a woodworker. But they may still call me carpenter force of habit :))
You know what helps? In my language it's the same word for both...
I’m just a woodcutter hoping to become a woodworker someday.
My impression; A Carpenter is 1 who is skilled in many areas of building (Umbrella) Those are far & in-between ..There are more framers and even more 2 car Craftsman out there..however I do believe there are less "woodworkers" than there are any 'trade'..Though all spit sawdust.
i would call and many other people would call a woodworker a joiner
There are lots of fun terms that get used in different locations and traditions.
I make and fix stuff. Often it's with wood. I usually get called a Jack-of-All-Trades.
Im a woodsmith and carpenter. Not great at either, but good enough to not be the lowest paid on the crew.
I'm a woodworker, I turn, make small items and such. But I have been a carpenter... Only on my own house mind you. Lol
I am a woodbender my friend
Hy, I'll be joining a college in Canada next year for 2 year carpentry diploma,can you tell me if I would need mathematics practically,and if yes ,what should I learn as a basic to cope with construction calculations later?
Mathematics is a big part of it. Particularly geometry especially if you want to work with any angles other than 90 and 45
@@WoodByWrightHowTo so should I search some geometry sessions on UA-cam, that's it?
I'm a student of wood working ;o)
My wife's the one working my wood at any give time. I wouldn't call her a woodworker, she's terrible.
A friend of mine is a shopfitter, if you call him a carpenter, he would get upset.
Man, I had to read that three time before I realized you said “shopFITTER” and not “shoplifter”
Traditional windmill builder
I identify as a "Frozen Popsicle"....
Framer?
Master carpenter = all the above
I'm a fine wood-hacker.
I call my self a joiner
I'll toss in Ships Carpenter and defy most of either domestic woodworkers or housing carpentersto emulate one.😂😅
I identify as an old man in his shop. Call me what you want, just don't call me late for dinner!
In all seriousness, my dad was a genuine Carpenter. I do not have his skills, however he did not have my woodworking skills
I've found that people do get very chippy about these terms!
And in Scotland, we're called joiners, and we do fucking everything, even other trades jobs! Hurrah for us.
If a carpenter builds a house then why is an auto mechanic not a housepenter?
I'm a tree shaper.
Titles are for books just do what you do
I was raised as a carpenter, but got into woodworking to scratch my creative and artistic itch. But, now I'm starting to identify as a "maker" using material other than wood in my projects. Does that add another layer of angst to the argument?
I'm an artist with a hammer.
I’m a hack of all trades
I self-identify as a joiner. My pronouns are he/him. (That comment should start a whole 'nuther argument.)
I identify as a cabinet maker
Carpenter/woodworker
I would identify as a hack. ;)