It's actually better at higher resolutions, it gains compared to the competition, the problem is it's not necessarily powerful enough for 1440p in intensive games anyway.
I don't know man... For 250$ is more than intensive enough of we compare to competition's immediately higher price point cards which is way slower than this for a higher price
I mean I don't know if you need to spend 2000$ /~10x more for slightly sharper blade of grass when viewed at 400% 1 inch away from screen... It's more about bragging rights for your ego
Oh noo but people wanted to have more vram!! Yet only Counter Strike 2 and indiana jones used more than 8GB, the rest games were under it ... They needed to make this a 8GB model and released for 199$
Even though they didn't release it in my country but in other countries it's said that they are out of stock don't know if it's scalpers or actual buyers but seeing a GPU go immediately out of stock at launch is very rare
Just watched a video where this card got overclocked. Saw a 10-15% increase in performance. At that point it obliterates the 4060 and is sat toe to toe with the 4060TI 8GB but with more memory. You notice how it's a 190w TDP part but it sits around 110-130 watts most of the time? Click the slider up to 115-120% power and stick a bit on the clocks, you've got the cooler for it! Would love to see you unlock the potential in this card, would make a great video.
@@RandomGaminginHD fingers crossed it's worthwhile and you have good results. And if course, thanks for the coverage on this card, it's great to see a more grass roots, realistic take on the performance. 😁
@@adi6293 yeah, it's easily capable of 3200mhz+. There's a reason Intel went out of their way to mention overclocking in the press release, it's very unusual.
B580 has already cemented itself as a great budget offering. I would suggest testing more older games like Fallouts , GTAs , Older Far Cry and Cods etc for a change of pace. Still a great video though.
@@LuisPerez-5Since Intel have started this Arc business, their primary weakness as far as driver/software optimizations and utilization has been DirectX9/11 games - for awhile many games that were well over 5-7 years old would have the Arc cards punching below their weight compared to similar Nvidia/Amd cards Would be good to know if the new card generation as well as the years of driver infrastructure has leveled the playing field
@@LuisPerez-5 Arc A series did not have necessary support for older APIs on a hardware level, it had to emulate everything and that destroyed performance. Arc B series does and it would be cool to see the increase in performance on older games because of it. For example, he tests Oblivion and despite the B580 having 20 cores and the A770 having 32, Oblivion runs at near 40% higher fps on the B580.
Yes that's true, remember when they had sexy bad ass girls on or robots. Now their just dull Black boxes mostly, at least some colour is a welcome change.
@@shadowswithin702 Its called Minimalism. And its prefered by most people because its easier to color match them with the rtest of ur build. Nice and clean. Pure harmony.
Agreed. When I built this PC I'm using I wanted a 2080ti, just for once I was gonna buy the best possible (at the time) and OMG the cards I wanted all looked like a 12 year old boys dream. Like Mike Bays Transformers. I ended up in the end getting a blower card cuz it was just a nice simple rectangle. I had already decided on a Thermaltake View case so there was no way I was going to look at one of those cards with 32 edges and ridges to look "gamery". Ended up buying a waterblock for it anyway but I wasn't planning on that step it was all down to ugly card designs. Guess it worked out cuz I'm at 60c most the time so that's cool but still.
My personal config for play on the B580 is - 1) In-game settings almost exactly shown in the video with ultra textures when possible. 2) FSR frame gen without FSR upscaling 3) Driver side Xess low latency enabled. You get much higher refresh rates and much smoother gameplay on 1440p. Completely satisfied with the purchase. Stalker runs pretty smoothly above 60 fps always.
I hope Intel makes a high end card. Their architecture scales really well with higher resolutions. It'd be cool seeing what they can do with a card targeting said higher resolutions.
Yeah, the A770 was a decent 4k card already and so is the B580, but a dedicated 4k or higher refresh 1440p/ultrawide card would be nice to see. The 32 Xe core cards that should be coming at some point next year should be nice for that.
Good on Intel, every generation is getting massively better and they are already at the point where they are actually a justifiable choice for budget end gamers
it's better for 1440p than the 8gbs rtx 4060 is, cuz it has more vram, it's really good card for its price, if i didn't buy rx7700xt 2 months ago i would buy this card for myself.
And amd GPUs suck at ray tracing, despite 2nd gpu Intel is on par with Nvidia in ray tracing also and xess on Intel gpu is better due to Dp4a Model. For the price Intel is great. Amd also great as they cared consumer (Fsr and more VRAM etc...)
I believe the less of a drop in frame rate in 1440 is the way Intel designed this card. It has something to do with the time it takes to generate a frame. The VRAM does play a role, but it has some more to do with the way the card is structured. They’ve done something special here. People just haven’t realized just how good it can be yet. I can’t wait to see their next generation card. I hope they make a high end card eventually to get nvidia to stop price gouging the people.
1440p on ~125w power is nuts. The performance to wattage is absolutely delicious. 65-85w on Elden Ring 1440p High? Holy. Can't wait to O/C the hell out of this card-- And if Intel's driver history is anything like the Arc first generation, wattage to performance is only going to get better with driver updates.
Thanks for showing at least one DX9 game. The compatibility improvements are what I wanted to see most; I wanted to see if they had improved the support for older games on DX11, 9, and earlier. They had a long way to catch up in terms of compatibility with older titles. I wouldn't mind a bit more testing with older and more obscure games to see if they still have stuff to work out with them compared to AMD/NVIDIA cards of a similar tier.
Waiting on delivery of my Titan OC from Sparkle, looks like it will do a good enough job of running my gaming VM. I've been a bit spoilt over the past few years, but I've repurposed all of my RTX A5000s to AI duty. Wanted something cheap that will just get the job done, this review has given me some good confidence I've made the right choice. I hope more people buy the B580, Intel needs people to vote with their wallet on this one.
@@RandomGaminginHD I know its a big ask, but can you maybe do a followup of older Arc generation GPUs to see if they also benefit from the recent driver optimisations? Like, can the A770 be a viable budget option for those who need 16GB VRAM or is it still a buggy mess?
Finally an old DX9 game! I have watched like 12 B580 reviews and this is the first that showcases something about as old as Oblivion... If I see more DX9 games running well on Battlemage I might get one.
@@LilMissMurder3409why wouldn't it make sense? For me that's the beauty of PC gaming, you can always go back and play some of the older games you enjoyed over the years and I definitely like to see that newer cards don't have problems with that. It's not like on consoles where you have to hope that the game was made to be backwards compatible or they release a remaster.
Thank you so much for your work! I know you are a pro when it comes to benchmarking cards but I still have few little advinces for future tests: please test Baldur's Gate in Act 3 if possible since it's where perfomance becomes tricky. Also please test Cyberpunk 2077 in Dogtown, that's exactly where most of the budget cards start to struggle even on middle settings unlike the main game. Cheers!
Maybe that was just on games release and was since optimised as i played this game some 2-3months ago and we didn't feel any performance drop when we got to act 3
Even though I bought a 4080 this year (before they were discontinued), I was rooting for Intel to improve as their cards did seem appealing, even if their first generation Arc cards had some growing pains. Great to see they've improved a lot since then and wish them the best in the GPU market.
And the 4060 Ti and 7600 Xt. Why pay 150 to 200 more for barely technically better graphics. We will have to see what thenew cards from Nvidia/Amd do price/performance wise but right now this is looking like the best bang for the buck.
@@NScherdin Well, I would not bet on nvdiia or amd to cut down msrps immediately which means Intel will have a reasonably big piece of the "entry cake" 😂
@@Ciffer-1998 Was listening to a Hardware Unboxed podcast and they had a guest from Intel. If I remember right, he at least had faith that there would be efforts made to keep the GPU price relevant during those releases. (I'm speaking from memory and could be wrong)
9:02 , Power Consumption pretty Reasonable? Im sorry but this is the first L Take from you, you could have emphasized more how tiny that power Draw actually is. 120W for this Level of Performance is amazing, you can easily build a 200W Machine with that Card. In my Opinion the RX 6600 was the best 1080P Card while only drawing 95W but this Performance with only 110W Power Draw, a 300€ Price Tag and 12gb Vram is simply amazing. I hate to say it but well done Intel!
Thank you. I play mostly older titles. The two things keeping me away from Alchemist was the high power draw and horrible "DX9" performance. Both concerns seem to have been addressed. _Great Job, Intel._ Please keep testing this card, with older hardware too. Like a Ryzen 2600x, or i7 4770. I don't see anyone testing these cards on 'Actual' older hardware.
@@kurtisrinker1202 2600 ought to support rebar, unless you have a cheap AM4 board that the manufacturer forgot to make a bios update for. First generation boards might not have it for example, but B450 and up should have updates for it. Older Intel boards are going to be much more inconsistent with having updates to enable it. Some might, but most probably won't. Keep in mind that this card is nearly as fast as a 2080ti in some cases. Really old chips are going to bottleneck it in a lot of cases, so you'll want to be on at least a semi modern platform like Zen 2 or 3 to get the most out of it.
@@kurtisrinker1202 . . I get that. But, how do they perform in those scenarios? It's a semi-budget card. People _Are GOING To_ put them into older systems. So, how does it do in an actual PCIe3 system without resizeable Bar support? Not a system that has the settings altered to 'mimic' PCIe3. I don't want a simulation, I want actual data.
@RANDOMNATION907 I haven't seen any reviewers test that on this generation, but since they work the same as their first gen cards, I would assume that they would run like complete ass without rebar support.
@@kurtisrinker1202 . . no, they do not. These are a completely different architecture. Assumptions aside, I'd like actual data. Why are you seemingly against this?
testing this card at 1440p makes way more sense to me. 1080p is not really appropriate anymore and it also shows the clear advantage of 12GB over 8GB, which is by far one of the biggest strong points of the B580. Petersen claimed they made this with 1440p in mind
With all the upscaling.. and super sampling.. and AI voodoo pixel processing.. and games that do little to no optimizations.. I think 1080p is gonna be a relevant resolution for a long time.
Check out Puget Systems Content Creation Review of this card. Not bad for the money really. I am not affiliated with them at all but I did pick up a B580 and have been checking out all the reviews/info I can find.
I'm all on board for intel cards, only problem I have is that they don't seem to have great performance on older games seems that this is fixed in this card! I'm definitely getting something like this for my next pc.
nice.. now I'm just curious about the VR performance. the 4060 does ok but some games crash due to the low VRAM. I wonder if the 12gb of the B580 would perform better
Could you PLEASE try adding this into the Beelink Mini PC + Dock combo? I know ReBAR is an issue for Intel GPUs, but it could be the perfect card for building an eGPU setup (especially with an Intel CPU) Thanks!
Hey, RandomGaminginHD, I might have a few suggestions for old games like Rainbow Six, Rainbow Six 3, Rainbow Six Vegas 1 & 2, Splinter Cell, Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy, also The Old Republic, and good game I remember as a kid FATE, and maybe old Call of Duty titles.
I would really like to see a full ray tracing test and also raising quality to medium/high because this card is one of those little sleepers from other reviews
I'm impressed that they're still making GPUs, could have thrown in the towel after their 1st launch. Love the advancements they've made, healthy Vram and all! That being said The new Vram requirements are stupid. Most games don't even look like they use the vram they ask for Lol. Kinda like newer games that have "With frame gen on" in the requirements.
If it flopped so bad yes they could give up on GPU. Regardless people need to buy these cards to support intel continuing them otherwise Nvidia will rip off as usual what next £5000 for a GPU 😅@@Ciffer-1998
This getting more like a very nice 1080p gpu for modern AAA games, just like the 6700xt. They can still do 1440p if you adjust some settings, but I feel the sweespot for a card like 6700xt has shifted from 1440p to 1080p due to more demanding games
I would be very interested in how this compares to an RTX 3070 (or 3060 Ti) in different scenarios. Me and my friends picked up a bunch from miners a couple years ago, they're still cheap as chips around here. I remember the 3060 launch, everyone thought 12GB VRAM was not necessary for that tier of GPU. How has this changed by the end of 2024?
I'll just say this. You should use unlocked fps mod with Elden Ring. While it is being a phenomenally amazing game, is a terrible benchmark one. It is close to Bethesda level of optimization with the physics is tied to the locked 60 FPS too, the moment you turn off the limit via mods, you'll see that all charts be it the average or the one percentile will increase, and the game becomes much smoother and more stable except with some effects are not looking as how it's supposed to. It is a poor representation of what GPU can do at default, not that it matters since people want to see how it performs in that game. So, yeah, do it unlocked next time please. Thanks for the video. I appreciate what you do.
Finally GPUs moving in the right direction. The majority of people just want affordable GPUs to play games on. Nvidia dominated the market and decided a gpu would now cost more than an entire pc did back in the day. Competition definitely needed so this is great news.
I want to know if this card has inbuilt Game Recording/Capture, from what I can tell, you can use either Intel Arc Control Software, and use the Studio to tab to Broadcast and/or Capture gameplay OR it has some automatic game capture for games that support it. But on Intel's page for the Arc Control Software, it also says " On desktop, a discrete Intel® Arc™ GPU must be paired with the latest Intel® Core™ processor or newer to take advantage of most of these features." So will all the features still work on AMD Cpus?
Thank you very much for fullfilling the request! Those 12 Gigs really help and simply are the current standard on GPU below 300 bucks. Bought my RX 5700 XT with 8 Gigs like 2 years ago for 130 bucks. So besides the RX 6600 for a similar price no one should pay more on 8 Gigs these days! Do you thing a used RX 6800/ 6800 XT still would be the better deal? Not because of 16 Gigs VRAM, but simply driver and performance.
very good to see. Love Oblovion. Need something a bit more powerful, looking forward to Kingdom Come Delivernace 2. something like a 4070 would be nice but not enough vram. from what ive seen this is about half the price of a 4070 for about half the performance.
If your wondering why black ops 6 thinks you haven't bought it, it's due to having too many devices registered on your microsoft account, delete some, gamepass will work with black ops 6. This happened to the other day.
I've had a 3060 ti for a while, I'm making it last lol. I'd say wait unless you're finding yourself playing stuff at low settings and or low resolution.
Hey randomgaming, great video! Can you add in the future Rust as a game to see how the performance is? It is really demanding nowadays in cpu such as gpu tho. It is interesting to see how much the specs impact in that game. Thanks!
What are the PC specs overall the cpu , motherboard and ram etc.? Because I think everyone is testing the gpu with the latest CPU and ddr5 ram etc. I personally want to see its performance with a budget PC build like Ryzen R5 5600 or other CPUs around the same price range !
@@Ciffer-1998 Well, the short answer is that I'm thinking to build a PC in that CPU range. The long answer is that the Intel Battlemage B580 is clearly marketed as a mid-range GPU. Not everyone buying this card will pair it with the latest CPUs and DDR5 RAM. Additionally, the B580 has only 8 PCIe lanes (x8), not x16. It supports PCIe Gen 4, not Gen 5, and it uses GDDR6 memory instead of GDDR6X. These specs clearly position it as a mid-range card, not a high-end one.
I love this card is a thing. My only wish would be for Intel to STOP worrying about RT. Every penny put towards anything hardware/software could be better utilized. Just make it a rock solid 1080p-1440p 60hz-120hz or 144hz even. Just that. Nobody uses RT. I mean currently to turn on realistic reflections I ALSO have to turn on "Vaseline mode ON"...This is moronic. I will never use DLSS or anything equivelent. If I need what it offers I'll turn things off. Turn down shadows. Turn down fog effects. Turn down LOD. Whatever. The only people IMO who use a games MIN/MED/MAX settings alone are UA-camrs. Everyone else knows to go in and fiddle with stuff until you can get your desired performance. This is the beauty of using a PC.
some say patch 1.01 or 1.03 helps a little with stalker2, is it with patch or clean? but still it is very low performance in this game... the new card should perform better. it means 570 is not gonna be playable at all
Have you tried any DX9 games which were not AAA games? I don't trust Intel not paying attention to only a few AAA titles for their drivers and never fixing other issues. I have to give it to Intel though, this card is a beauty.
What a time to be alive the best new budget PC has a Intel GPU and a AMD CPU, wild........
How the turntables
Wich Amd cpu you talking about?! 5600??
@@joelfernando1More likely the AM5 7500F.
amd am5 cpus are anything but budget
@@joelfernando1 8400F / 7500F
It's actually better at higher resolutions, it gains compared to the competition, the problem is it's not necessarily powerful enough for 1440p in intensive games anyway.
I don't know man... For 250$ is more than intensive enough of we compare to competition's immediately higher price point cards which is way slower than this for a higher price
I mean I don't know if you need to spend 2000$ /~10x more for slightly sharper blade of grass when viewed at 400% 1 inch away from screen...
It's more about bragging rights for your ego
1440p with DLSS on quality or native 1296p? 🤔
Yeah it maybe made sense back in 90s, 2000s or mid 2010s (cuz it actually could look that different), visual fidelity peaked around 2013@@soulsbourne
Oh noo but people wanted to have more vram!! Yet only Counter Strike 2 and indiana jones used more than 8GB, the rest games were under it ... They needed to make this a 8GB model and released for 199$
Intel comeback? An unexpected surprise, but a welcome one
they have a LOONG way for a comeback. still a good gpu tho
Even though they didn't release it in my country but in other countries it's said that they are out of stock don't know if it's scalpers or actual buyers but seeing a GPU go immediately out of stock at launch is very rare
@adity-m2gand i doubt that its because people want it so much but rather because intel made the supply very limited
@@johnsalamii Really hope the US wont kill off intel with more "Chips Act benefits" that never get paid out
how does losing money on a GPU count as a comback?
It's great to see some proper competition for the other two manufacturers.
Just watched a video where this card got overclocked. Saw a 10-15% increase in performance. At that point it obliterates the 4060 and is sat toe to toe with the 4060TI 8GB but with more memory.
You notice how it's a 190w TDP part but it sits around 110-130 watts most of the time? Click the slider up to 115-120% power and stick a bit on the clocks, you've got the cooler for it!
Would love to see you unlock the potential in this card, would make a great video.
I’ll have to try that, thanks!
@@RandomGaminginHD fingers crossed it's worthwhile and you have good results.
And if course, thanks for the coverage on this card, it's great to see a more grass roots, realistic take on the performance. 😁
waiting to see someone undervolt and OC it at the same time
@@WayStedYou I saw it running at 3250Mhz earlier 😅😅
@@adi6293 yeah, it's easily capable of 3200mhz+. There's a reason Intel went out of their way to mention overclocking in the press release, it's very unusual.
B580 has already cemented itself as a great budget offering. I would suggest testing more older games like Fallouts , GTAs , Older Far Cry and Cods etc for a change of pace. Still a great video though.
Why test older games?
@@LuisPerez-5Why test only newer games?
@@LuisPerez-5Since Intel have started this Arc business, their primary weakness as far as driver/software optimizations and utilization has been DirectX9/11 games - for awhile many games that were well over 5-7 years old would have the Arc cards punching below their weight compared to similar Nvidia/Amd cards
Would be good to know if the new card generation as well as the years of driver infrastructure has leveled the playing field
@@adamgr6988 if there is driver issue , should we use dsvk ?
@@LuisPerez-5 Arc A series did not have necessary support for older APIs on a hardware level, it had to emulate everything and that destroyed performance. Arc B series does and it would be cool to see the increase in performance on older games because of it.
For example, he tests Oblivion and despite the B580 having 20 cores and the A770 having 32, Oblivion runs at near 40% higher fps on the B580.
What a beautiful thing all in blue and gray. Cards have been lacking character, so it's nice to see something like this.
Yes that's true, remember when they had sexy bad ass girls on or robots. Now their just dull Black boxes mostly, at least some colour is a welcome change.
@@shadowswithin702 Its called Minimalism. And its prefered by most people because its easier to color match them with the rtest of ur build. Nice and clean. Pure harmony.
Agreed. When I built this PC I'm using I wanted a 2080ti, just for once I was gonna buy the best possible (at the time) and OMG the cards I wanted all looked like a 12 year old boys dream. Like Mike Bays Transformers. I ended up in the end getting a blower card cuz it was just a nice simple rectangle. I had already decided on a Thermaltake View case so there was no way I was going to look at one of those cards with 32 edges and ridges to look "gamery".
Ended up buying a waterblock for it anyway but I wasn't planning on that step it was all down to ugly card designs. Guess it worked out cuz I'm at 60c most the time so that's cool but still.
I bought this card recently it is amazing 🎉
How'd you buy it?
Is it still worth it to buy at around $350 to $400? Can't find $250 ones.
@@a..b1343 With money. 😂
@@Therapistwatermirrurnope wait for the stock to be back. At max buy it for 300$.
the b580 really does seem to be a great card for 1440p, which also happens to be my preferred resolution
Temu ah emojis😫
My personal config for play on the B580 is - 1) In-game settings almost exactly shown in the video with ultra textures when possible. 2) FSR frame gen without FSR upscaling 3) Driver side Xess low latency enabled. You get much higher refresh rates and much smoother gameplay on 1440p. Completely satisfied with the purchase. Stalker runs pretty smoothly above 60 fps always.
I hope Intel makes a high end card. Their architecture scales really well with higher resolutions. It'd be cool seeing what they can do with a card targeting said higher resolutions.
Agreed, a 4070 equivelant for 399 would be insane. From what we've seen, this architecture has legs.
Yeah, the A770 was a decent 4k card already and so is the B580, but a dedicated 4k or higher refresh 1440p/ultrawide card would be nice to see. The 32 Xe core cards that should be coming at some point next year should be nice for that.
Would be great equal to 5090 for £400. A big two fingers up to Nvidia
@@johnsmith-i5j7i let's put the crack pipe down
@@johnsmith-i5j7i No way they would sell it that low lmao
Good on Intel, every generation is getting massively better and they are already at the point where they are actually a justifiable choice for budget end gamers
Definitely
it's better for 1440p than the 8gbs rtx 4060 is, cuz it has more vram, it's really good card for its price, if i didn't buy rx7700xt 2 months ago i would buy this card for myself.
RX 7700xt is still way more powerful though despite having same VRAM
@adity-m2g The 7700XT costs nearly 2x as much as the B580
And amd GPUs suck at ray tracing, despite 2nd gpu Intel is on par with Nvidia in ray tracing also and xess on Intel gpu is better due to Dp4a Model. For the price Intel is great. Amd also great as they cared consumer (Fsr and more VRAM etc...)
I believe the less of a drop in frame rate in 1440 is the way Intel designed this card. It has something to do with the time it takes to generate a frame. The VRAM does play a role, but it has some more to do with the way the card is structured. They’ve done something special here. People just haven’t realized just how good it can be yet. I can’t wait to see their next generation card.
I hope they make a high end card eventually to get nvidia to stop price gouging the people.
Thanks for benchmarking! Looks like a great budget card that is also brand new!
1440p on ~125w power is nuts. The performance to wattage is absolutely delicious.
65-85w on Elden Ring 1440p High? Holy.
Can't wait to O/C the hell out of this card-- And if Intel's driver history is anything like the Arc first generation, wattage to performance is only going to get better with driver updates.
RandomGaminginHD, will you be testing the B580 on PCIE 3.0?
No
@@KattarAthiest what's he putting out on the 28th of december? just wondering as you seem to know his post/content plans?
@@karlreading3201 I don't know but these arc card have specific instructions to install in modern pc with pcie 4.0
Thanks for showing at least one DX9 game. The compatibility improvements are what I wanted to see most; I wanted to see if they had improved the support for older games on DX11, 9, and earlier. They had a long way to catch up in terms of compatibility with older titles. I wouldn't mind a bit more testing with older and more obscure games to see if they still have stuff to work out with them compared to AMD/NVIDIA cards of a similar tier.
Waiting on delivery of my Titan OC from Sparkle, looks like it will do a good enough job of running my gaming VM. I've been a bit spoilt over the past few years, but I've repurposed all of my RTX A5000s to AI duty. Wanted something cheap that will just get the job done, this review has given me some good confidence I've made the right choice. I hope more people buy the B580, Intel needs people to vote with their wallet on this one.
A saw a video about oc with intel standard software making a solid 7-10% performance increase. Also a nice feature for sure
As far as I know, older DX versions are not being emulated like the last generation did. Now there is native hardware support for these functions.
Can you test this with reBar/Sam on/off? 🙏🙏🙏
Yeah plan to stick it in an old system see how it does
@@RandomGaminginHD Can you please also test more older games just like oblivion , I can't find anyone who has tested like dx9 games on arc b580.
@@RandomGaminginHD I know its a big ask, but can you maybe do a followup of older Arc generation GPUs to see if they also benefit from the recent driver optimisations? Like, can the A770 be a viable budget option for those who need 16GB VRAM or is it still a buggy mess?
@@RandomGaminginHDplease test it on pcie 3.0 with rebar on
Finally an old DX9 game! I have watched like 12 B580 reviews and this is the first that showcases something about as old as Oblivion... If I see more DX9 games running well on Battlemage I might get one.
That makes no sense. Save yourself $100 and get something like an RX6600 if you're only interested in DX9 titles.
@@LilMissMurder3409 ...eh?... but if Battlemage has fixed issues with DX9 games why would I do that...
@@LilMissMurder3409why wouldn't it make sense? For me that's the beauty of PC gaming, you can always go back and play some of the older games you enjoyed over the years and I definitely like to see that newer cards don't have problems with that. It's not like on consoles where you have to hope that the game was made to be backwards compatible or they release a remaster.
I've never felt so heard, ty sir! Appreciate it \m/
With the 12Gb of VRAM you could max out textures with no performance loss (even at 1440p).
Thank you so much for your work! I know you are a pro when it comes to benchmarking cards but I still have few little advinces for future tests: please test Baldur's Gate in Act 3 if possible since it's where perfomance becomes tricky. Also please test Cyberpunk 2077 in Dogtown, that's exactly where most of the budget cards start to struggle even on middle settings unlike the main game. Cheers!
Maybe that was just on games release and was since optimised as i played this game some 2-3months ago and we didn't feel any performance drop when we got to act 3
Thank you. This is what we've been waiting for 🙂👍
The performance out of the box is outstanding for what it costs . Once drivers improve it will be even better
Have you considered benching something like the a380 again, now drivers are much better ?
Architecture is the biggest gain I think.
Even though I bought a 4080 this year (before they were discontinued), I was rooting for Intel to improve as their cards did seem appealing, even if their first generation Arc cards had some growing pains. Great to see they've improved a lot since then and wish them the best in the GPU market.
Amazing value for money, thanks for the video, wanted to see a 1440p overview
This card is a headshot for the 4060 and the 7600!
And the 4060 Ti and 7600 Xt. Why pay 150 to 200 more for barely technically better graphics. We will have to see what thenew cards from Nvidia/Amd do price/performance wise but right now this is looking like the best bang for the buck.
@@NScherdin Well, I would not bet on nvdiia or amd to cut down msrps immediately which means Intel will have a reasonably big piece of the "entry cake" 😂
@@tagesvaterpatrick8780They need to keep up with demand otherwise good hardware would be a waste if people can't buy it
I'm gonna wait and see for a few months if this card still at $400 or returned to it's msrp.
Hopefully it’ll drop!
In just 2-3months rx8000 and rtx5000 are coming out so intel kind of messed up they made a gpu which can only compete with last gens low-mid end
@@Ciffer-1998 Was listening to a Hardware Unboxed podcast and they had a guest from Intel. If I remember right, he at least had faith that there would be efforts made to keep the GPU price relevant during those releases. (I'm speaking from memory and could be wrong)
@@GruelingFive8 considering that entry level is non-existent in amd/nvidia i guess it could be true
in turkey a retailer has 55 le cards for 290 dolar (with tax)
The blue sparkle version you tested has the highest factory OC, but you can push it more. Also I’m really loving the style
But what about second breakfast?
Awesome! Thanks for doing 1440p, sir.
9:02 , Power Consumption pretty Reasonable?
Im sorry but this is the first L Take from you, you could have emphasized more how tiny that power Draw actually is.
120W for this Level of Performance is amazing, you can easily build a 200W Machine with that Card.
In my Opinion the RX 6600 was the best 1080P Card while only drawing 95W but this Performance with only 110W Power Draw, a 300€ Price Tag and 12gb Vram is simply amazing.
I hate to say it but well done Intel!
Thank you. I play mostly older titles. The two things keeping me away from Alchemist was the high power draw and horrible "DX9" performance.
Both concerns seem to have been addressed. _Great Job, Intel._
Please keep testing this card, with older hardware too. Like a Ryzen 2600x, or i7 4770. I don't see anyone testing these cards on 'Actual' older hardware.
I suspect the reason you don't see that is because most of the motherboards in those older systems don't support rebar, which the intel gpus require.
@@kurtisrinker1202 2600 ought to support rebar, unless you have a cheap AM4 board that the manufacturer forgot to make a bios update for. First generation boards might not have it for example, but B450 and up should have updates for it.
Older Intel boards are going to be much more inconsistent with having updates to enable it. Some might, but most probably won't.
Keep in mind that this card is nearly as fast as a 2080ti in some cases. Really old chips are going to bottleneck it in a lot of cases, so you'll want to be on at least a semi modern platform like Zen 2 or 3 to get the most out of it.
@@kurtisrinker1202 . . I get that. But, how do they perform in those scenarios? It's a semi-budget card. People _Are GOING To_ put them into older systems. So, how does it do in an actual PCIe3 system without resizeable Bar support? Not a system that has the settings altered to 'mimic' PCIe3. I don't want a simulation, I want actual data.
@RANDOMNATION907 I haven't seen any reviewers test that on this generation, but since they work the same as their first gen cards, I would assume that they would run like complete ass without rebar support.
@@kurtisrinker1202 . . no, they do not. These are a completely different architecture. Assumptions aside, I'd like actual data. Why are you seemingly against this?
i have a 4090 and bought the limited edition just for fun.
it has been two days and the 4090 is still not back in my PC.
Haha glad to hear your enjoying the card
testing this card at 1440p makes way more sense to me. 1080p is not really appropriate anymore and it also shows the clear advantage of 12GB over 8GB, which is by far one of the biggest strong points of the B580. Petersen claimed they made this with 1440p in mind
With all the upscaling.. and super sampling.. and AI voodoo pixel processing.. and games that do little to no optimizations.. I think 1080p is gonna be a relevant resolution for a long time.
Does it have HW video encoding 🤔
Check out Puget Systems Content Creation Review of this card. Not bad for the money really. I am not affiliated with them at all but I did pick up a B580 and have been checking out all the reviews/info I can find.
it has the best video encoder available right know I think.
Yes
yes, including AV1
I'm all on board for intel cards, only problem I have is that they don't seem to have great performance on older games seems that this is fixed in this card! I'm definitely getting something like this for my next pc.
any plans on a full video testing RT performance??
if you mentioned it in the video, I may have missed it, my apologies
6:10 there is a mod that speedrunners use, it removes the cap and fixes the high FPS stuttering
nice.. now I'm just curious about the VR performance. the 4060 does ok but some games crash due to the low VRAM. I wonder if the 12gb of the B580 would perform better
Make Rtx 4060 vs arc b580 video please
maybe, made it a triple stand-off with RX 7600?
It actually looks like the Intel B580 might be the upgrade I need for my old AMD RX 580 (8gig). Happy days!
I'm going to post this every time I get the chance or until I get an answer: Why don't you display the CPU temperature in the overlay?
HOW u guys getting these cards.🤣 Can't find them anywhere.
So how is it compare to 6700xt at 2K?
The 6700xt will be a little faster overall
@@RandomGaminginHD But the power draw ;-)
Could you PLEASE try adding this into the Beelink Mini PC + Dock combo? I know ReBAR is an issue for Intel GPUs, but it could be the perfect card for building an eGPU setup (especially with an Intel CPU)
Thanks!
Hey, RandomGaminginHD, I might have a few suggestions for old games like Rainbow Six, Rainbow Six 3, Rainbow Six Vegas 1 & 2, Splinter Cell, Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy, also The Old Republic, and good game I remember as a kid FATE, and maybe old Call of Duty titles.
I am so happy this card exists and that it is actually good.
Same here!
I would've like to have seen one made with 16gb of vram.
I would really like to see a full ray tracing test and also raising quality to medium/high because this card is one of those little sleepers from other reviews
Still can't find one for sale though! Was hoping to get one for my son for Christmas.
I'll be doing 1080p for the foreseeable future.
But Intel has got me excited for the future of GPUs.
My only issue with this card is the size and power draw, it wouldn't work out in my compact rig.
What do you mean by power draw it pulls around 130w
I'm impressed that they're still making GPUs, could have thrown in the towel after their 1st launch. Love the advancements they've made, healthy Vram and all!
That being said The new Vram requirements are stupid. Most games don't even look like they use the vram they ask for Lol. Kinda like newer games that have
"With frame gen on" in the requirements.
Why would they give up, not a single soul though that its first gen will be good i doubt that even intel thought that
@@Ciffer-1998 Companies make dumb choices all the time Lol
If it flopped so bad yes they could give up on GPU. Regardless people need to buy these cards to support intel continuing them otherwise Nvidia will rip off as usual what next £5000 for a GPU 😅@@Ciffer-1998
this beast can go to 4k in some games i love it
This getting more like a very nice 1080p gpu for modern AAA games, just like the 6700xt. They can still do 1440p if you adjust some settings, but I feel the sweespot for a card like 6700xt has shifted from 1440p to 1080p due to more demanding games
I would be very interested in how this compares to an RTX 3070 (or 3060 Ti) in different scenarios.
Me and my friends picked up a bunch from miners a couple years ago, they're still cheap as chips around here.
I remember the 3060 launch, everyone thought 12GB VRAM was not necessary for that tier of GPU. How has this changed by the end of 2024?
How well this works for Linux? SteamOS is making waves and I wonder if this is compatible.
Can we test games like Area 51 and Doom 3? Maybe even Older cod titles that use dx9 or less?
I'll just say this. You should use unlocked fps mod with Elden Ring. While it is being a phenomenally amazing game, is a terrible benchmark one. It is close to Bethesda level of optimization with the physics is tied to the locked 60 FPS too, the moment you turn off the limit via mods, you'll see that all charts be it the average or the one percentile will increase, and the game becomes much smoother and more stable except with some effects are not looking as how it's supposed to. It is a poor representation of what GPU can do at default, not that it matters since people want to see how it performs in that game. So, yeah, do it unlocked next time please. Thanks for the video. I appreciate what you do.
Oblivion is the best game ever, love that game, and Zelda the ocarina of time, another great video
Hallelujah 🎉🎉🎉
Battlemage is pretty good and stable.
I can honestly now recommend Intel gpus for budget builds for people that only play mainstream games.
Finally GPUs moving in the right direction. The majority of people just want affordable GPUs to play games on. Nvidia dominated the market and decided a gpu would now cost more than an entire pc did back in the day. Competition definitely needed so this is great news.
IM glad this GPU came out, pushes the competition to compete with each other...again
whoaaa, that's a massive card :)
Maybe add STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl?
Its a direct x 8.1 and 9 game so it might perform differently.
I want to know if this card has inbuilt Game Recording/Capture, from what I can tell, you can use either Intel Arc Control Software, and use the Studio to tab to Broadcast and/or Capture gameplay OR it has some automatic game capture for games that support it. But on Intel's page for the Arc Control Software, it also says " On desktop, a discrete Intel® Arc™ GPU must be paired with the latest Intel® Core™ processor or newer to take advantage of most of these features." So will all the features still work on AMD Cpus?
Does the software have Shadowplay?
I need automatic captures for my in-game highlights in Fortnite.
Isnt shadowplay Nvidia only feature?
Shadowplay is Nvidia technology, this probably has a similar feature though.
Yes, that's NV tech. I have an NV card and I must have Shadowplay.
I need to know if Intel has the same feature.
Have you tried DX12 instead of Vulkan in RDR2?
Now you have to go for 4k as well, that's the most interesting resolution to test imo
Thank you very much for fullfilling the request! Those 12 Gigs really help and simply are the current standard on GPU below 300 bucks.
Bought my RX 5700 XT with 8 Gigs like 2 years ago for 130 bucks. So besides the RX 6600 for a similar price no one should pay more on 8 Gigs these days!
Do you thing a used RX 6800/ 6800 XT still would be the better deal? Not because of 16 Gigs VRAM, but simply driver and performance.
very good to see. Love Oblovion.
Need something a bit more powerful, looking forward to Kingdom Come Delivernace 2. something like a 4070 would be nice but not enough vram. from what ive seen this is about half the price of a 4070 for about half the performance.
I'm definitely getting one for 1080p gaming
Will you review the $249 AI thing nvidia just released? It would be cool to see how it performs on games.
I have a RX7900XT but I do have to say, that design looks pretty damn cool.
For GPUs that don't support DX12 ultimate, like the 1080ti which only goes up to 12.1, would you recommend playing games in DX11 or 12?
Is there an issue with bo6? heard it runs better on battlenet than other launchers
I gotta say, that is one BEAUTIFUL card
Been waiting for the B770 but heard it might come out much later sadly
I was surprised when you tested at 1080 as other tester have said that Intel is aiming this card at 1440 gaming.
Intel saying they are targeting 1440p and it not just being them blowing smoke is pretty refreshing
If your wondering why black ops 6 thinks you haven't bought it, it's due to having too many devices registered on your microsoft account, delete some, gamepass will work with black ops 6.
This happened to the other day.
The B580 looks great for the price..... looking forward to the higher end cards from Intel, I need an affordable upgrade from my 6700XT.
im using a rx3060ti i got it recently with a trade for my rx7600 so thats a good deal but should i upgrade or wait for amd and nvidia first
I've had a 3060 ti for a while, I'm making it last lol. I'd say wait unless you're finding yourself playing stuff at low settings and or low resolution.
in South Africa this card is already almost double the MSRP before it even launched :(
Why you ignore rt specially when there is headroom for it?
Hey randomgaming, great video! Can you add in the future Rust as a game to see how the performance is? It is really demanding nowadays in cpu such as gpu tho. It is interesting to see how much the specs impact in that game. Thanks!
What are the PC specs overall the cpu , motherboard and ram etc.?
Because I think everyone is testing the gpu with the latest CPU and ddr5 ram etc. I personally want to see its performance with a budget PC build like Ryzen R5 5600 or other CPUs around the same price range !
Why would you want to see that, it makes no sense to hold back the gpu in a gpu based benchmarks
@@Ciffer-1998 Well, the short answer is that I'm thinking to build a PC in that CPU range. The long answer is that the Intel Battlemage B580 is clearly marketed as a mid-range GPU. Not everyone buying this card will pair it with the latest CPUs and DDR5 RAM. Additionally, the B580 has only 8 PCIe lanes (x8), not x16. It supports PCIe Gen 4, not Gen 5, and it uses GDDR6 memory instead of GDDR6X. These specs clearly position it as a mid-range card, not a high-end one.
@@hassaanahmad8990I do testing on a system with a 5600x and it runs amazing. I just upgraded from the A750 and it has been more than satisfying.
@@IamEpiclese It's good know that you are satisfied with this GPU on AM4 platform with your 5600x :D seems like a solid option to go for
If I can find one for £260 before the end of the year, I'll do it with a 5600, and DDR4 ram.
Could you try out The sims 3 or sims 4? Preferbly with some mods or dlc.
I love this card is a thing. My only wish would be for Intel to STOP worrying about RT. Every penny put towards anything hardware/software could be better utilized. Just make it a rock solid 1080p-1440p 60hz-120hz or 144hz even. Just that. Nobody uses RT. I mean currently to turn on realistic reflections I ALSO have to turn on "Vaseline mode ON"...This is moronic. I will never use DLSS or anything equivelent. If I need what it offers I'll turn things off. Turn down shadows. Turn down fog effects. Turn down LOD. Whatever. The only people IMO who use a games MIN/MED/MAX settings alone are UA-camrs. Everyone else knows to go in and fiddle with stuff until you can get your desired performance. This is the beauty of using a PC.
unpopular opinion but if the only new games run at low or barely medium, is it really a next gen card? Is it really worth buying one?
To be faiythat was the case for most. Gpus in thos last 2years
To be fair he picked high settings for most of these
some say patch 1.01 or 1.03 helps a little with stalker2, is it with patch or clean? but still it is very low performance in this game... the new card should perform better. it means 570 is not gonna be playable at all
Have you tried any DX9 games which were not AAA games? I don't trust Intel not paying attention to only a few AAA titles for their drivers and never fixing other issues.
I have to give it to Intel though, this card is a beauty.
enjoyed the video as always, but the elden ring fat-rolling has to stop!😭
😂 yeah not my finest move
How is PyTorch performance?