Thanks for the video! Big things for me: - less splotchy than GW - colors not matching up exactly to GW means a bigger overall range - dropper bottles mean less paint lost to cats :)
You touched on the one thing here I don't see people doing, mixing them. They are still paints and mixing them often gives the color you want instead of the color provided.
Tip: Go to the dollar store and buy some army men. Chop off their heads and prime them white. Apply your Contrast/Speed paint and glue it to the lid of said paint. Now you can clearly see what each color is/behaves.
Going further that excellent idea, I would add to prime two more heads, one with black and another with silver/metallic. Some speedpaints look better with white, others with black and if you paint armour definitely will be better in silver/metallic primes.
I'll be honest, I've been looking at these for a while now and they look really good. Comparatively speaking, just from looking at the videos, they seem to be more consistent than GW's contrast paints, and I think I'm going to grab the starter set in February. I normally use contrast paints for swarms of grunts or mobs that don't need to be super finely detailed, so these could be just what I need.
they are watery they are very runny and you really can't use them for any small detail work. they tend to pool randomly and is very very tough to control. my advice, get one bottle try it out yourself before investing in a full set.
That Brood Lord looks sick! I'm quite impressed by the speedpaint and the painter. Thanks for the review. I'll be using them strategically like you suggested.
You know, I keep thinking about how people would react had the Speedpaints come out first, and then two years later the Contrast line appears. I bet we would be seeing the same cautions curiosity but in reverse. Probably everybody would have developed a routine with SP that they were happy with and it would take some time to get used to how different Contrasts are. "Wait, you´re telling me that they do most of the same thing, but they´re splochier and twice the price? Eeeeeh, I´ll maybe grab a few, just for varietys´ sake". All in all, I plan to go balls deep with Speedpaints, you just can´t beat the price tag, and I´ve got some big projects ahead...
Cracking video today, Adam. You've not only given a good, honest assessment of the speed paints, you've also offered some fairly straightforward instructions for how one might quickly paint up a large alien or lizard force. I really like those two models you've done
I'm going to review your review: very complete. Usually people either do samples or they paint a model. You do all kinds of stuff to put these paints through their pacings and I appreciate that. I learned about the paints, learned some techniques,... Good stuff
Every review i've seen makes me want to use them. About the two issues you mention: * A quick drybrush as you mention for the highlights is worth it, i'd say even with Contrast, so not bad. * A cheap hairdryer on low will help with the drying time.
Soooo... In short they're the same BUT different. Seriously though. Well balanced review. Looks like a slight change in techniques to get the best out of these. Thanks for quality content.
They have the same stated goal, but quite different function. Most people airbrush glaze with Contrasts now, because they don't actually work as they were advertised. And that's fine, I'm going to try it myself this week. Just another tool. But these AP Speed Paints seem to actually do one-coat to contrast, which is cool.
These paints honestly seem made for a zenithal prime and drybrush highlight. Which is my preferred way of painting. I can't fix splotchy contrasts easily, but I can take the highlight up from speedpaints.
Yeah, if you have to fix a splotchy wash/contrast by hand you might as well have just shaded manually because it's just as much work. If these paints solve that problem they're a clear upgrade.
Gotta say I have watched now a number of review videos on Army Painter Speed Paints, overall I think they look great. I am definitely getting the full line of the speed paints. For me the cost is a huge defining factor. The Army Painter is a lil cheaper. Another great video and probably the better review of the Speed Paints.
I just wanted to thank you for putting out quality content. I had a stroke Monday and lost all feeling on the left side of my body, but the doctors say I'm young enough my brain should recover and with therapy I should get feeling and function back,but my doctor s husband plays Blood Blowl so she knew exactly everything I would talk about and why I was so upset I wouldn't be able to paint, but like I said, they think I'll be good as new and I getdischarged torrow and your videos along with MS Paints have kept me sane these past few days, so I just wanted to say thank you just for doing what you're doing.
I have seen several instances of the Speed Paint reactivating when new paint is applied on top of it, just as what happened with those lizard spikes. It seems to be more obvious with light colors on top of dark colors, but I would like to know if you have had any more experiences with this range.
Yea, someone elses review who started testing this had the reactivation issue even days later in his testing with some colours. It seels to depend on how much paint you are applying, like drybrushing unless heavily probably won't reactivate it, or highlighting work, but try to layer over it seems to add enough moisture to reactivate the paint.
I also use contrast for every model now. Perfect for base layer. Covers well and gives a bit of contrast. The biggest pro with speed paints though is going to be the dropper bottles. I do not want to have to open the bottle every time I need more paint. And yes I have one wet palette for opaque colours and a solid with holes for washes and contrasts.
I have used contrast. I do plan on trying speed paints, especially once we get the individual bottles available instead of just kits. I personally dislike citadel pots outright, so if I could switch to all dropper bottles that would be great. I will probably still use the GW washes though because they’re so good
Thank you so much for testing out mixing two speed paint colors together. I've been trying to find out if anyone had tested this yet as a way to grow the color range. Now to just see if anyone has tried blending the white and black speed paints into other colors yet.
I stopped painting about 2 years ago and have been thinking about getting back into it. Saw an ad for speedpaint and it seems that it does what I used to do with inks/washes - but much better. I also never thought about using a cheap makeup brush for dry brushing and if I do get back into the hobby I'll have to get some. The way the Tyranid turned out is amazing.
The mixing of the speedpaints with the white is apparently not an issue of not waiting long enough. There is another video which confirms that these speedpaints reactivate again and again if you paint over other colors.
From the looks of them the speed paints use the same medium as their tone range which would account for them drying slower and smoother. The price is tempting
Hi, thank you for your opinion about the difference, between the two kind of colors, I was still not so sure to give them both a try, I'm kind of bound to the good old technique, but you made me think that perhaps there's something new out there that worth the effort to try and do something different. Thanks, go on with the good job
Not a chemist, but it does sound as though the greater pull of Citadel both gives the sharper highlight and the splotchiness as it pulls together. So more (and a little different) tools for the toolbox
Recently started this hobby and found army painter speedpaint and army painter paints in general are just awesome. Bought a ton of them and I'm stoked.
Thanks, UA. Regarding pulling away from sharp edges the way Contrast Paint does, I'm wondering if adding a drop or two of Citadel Contrast Medium or even TAP Speedpaint Medium to "thin/dilute" them a bit more than out of the bottle would help. It's great to have more colors and tools IMHO. Good video - again! Also - regarding paint pots vs dropper bottles, when I moved my Citadel paints to dropper bottles, I saved most of the 12ml and 18ml pots (washed them out of course) so I could use them for something else... if you do the same, you can pour the SpeedPaints into the repurposed Citadel pots easy peasy. No waste!
Thanks for this comparison. I've always wanted to try contrast paints and I was excited to see speedpaints were half the price, but I was concerned they'd be a lower quality. Glad to see that's not the case. I ordered a bunch of speedpaints and I'm looking forward to getting models on the table faster!
Hey I haven't read through the comments, but you could pull the dropper out of the bottle so you could dip directly into it. It's an extra step but, in my opinion, a small inconvenience at best. I've always loved army painters line especially their range of spray cans so I'm excited to get my hands on their speed paints and compare them to my contrast.
The brood lord came out excellent... VERY nice, he pops in the right ways. super useful thoughts, thank you Uncle Adam... between you, Squiddy, Dana Howl and the resident Goober chemist I think I've got an excellent overview of these new paints... looks like another useful tool in the utility belt depending on what you're doing. Dig the entry price
Ok so your review swayed me and I have the basic set on order (can’t wait for the mega 😁). I have watched a lot of the reviews on YT and was a bit mixed but your test on that first model was a game changer for me.
Adam, I really like your video and find that I tend to agree with you on many things. I enjoy the way you present your opinions. This video it no exception. We've been in the hobby for about the same time period, so I think we have similar old man attitudes. Concerning this video, the face peeking up over the edge of frame is hilarious. However, I did find it distracting.
Thanks so much for showing the mash up process you use of contrast painting! Using washes, dry brushing & edge highlighting all together looks amazing! I was thinking about doing something similar to make the speed painting process look better.
Speedpaints alone are a fine place to start, but with adding some other simple techniques you can really take your figures to the next level. Thanks for watching!
I think since this video we're starting to see the reactivation is present across the line, and if you treat it like a feature rather than a bug you'll get on with them fine. Always varnish for sealing if you need it.
I was just thinking as you were talking about price "AND they come in dropper bottles, I'd pay more for dropper bottles". I understand preferring washes and such in pots, but I think its nostalgia from Citadel and they just always tip and spill and dehydrate. Dropper bottles are the way to go if you have a pallet.
with dropper bottles you can convert them into "pots" with this one simple trick: pull out the pour spout ( like you would to add mixing balls ) then you get all the "benefits" of a pot: if you knock it over it spills all over the desk, it dries out quicker, you can jam your entire brush in there for easier cross contamination of colours until they are all a nonuniform brown, etc ;)
What I’ve been doing has been keeping my empty paint bottles and pots, been using the newest gw pot style for holding spare ball bearings to put in new paint bottles that don’t have them and other things like that don’t try out, and been putting my transparent paints in p3’s style pots
Good review and excellent demonstration of how the two types of paint compare. Impressed with the broodlord as well. The whole zenithal technique is reminiscent of the glazing technique used by Don Suratos.
that tyranid looks pretty amazing, you should do more painting videos with this simple straightforward approach. Many painting videos on YT but most of them are more advanced than they seem
I paint all my Blood Angels with contrast paints. Blood Angels Red is an amazing color, and once you figure out the technique of how to apply them correctly, contrast looks great even on the shoulder pads and other flat surfaces. I’m interested in trying Speed Paints for a few of their colors, but it’s clear that Contrast flows more into the recesses in those examples. If you look at the orange comparison on the bolters, the recesses are much darker on the Citadel one.
in answer to your plight with the army painter speedpaints in dropper bottles, my solution has been to put paints like that in an old geedub wash pot after a rinse and a new label... simple, free solution
Thanks for the review. I was looking for a "real-life" review. Using the speedpaints in a realistic way. Like: I want to paint this model/army. How will I do it? Can Speedpaints help me with that? I was in doubt before but after your review, I will definetly use the pallid bone and red to paint my tyranid army and the greens to paint my salamanders and blue and pallid to paint my eldar. And after your review, I know that it won't be a no-brainer but it will help me tremendously.
A tip on dry brush: the Army Painter's "masterclass" dry brush set is really good. They're the cheaper alternative to Artis Opus series D brushes, and are practically the exact same brushes. They work a lot better than most makeup brushes.
A really easy and cheap way to use inks/washes in a dropper bottle is to use any cap you have left over from a water bottle, jug of milk etc. If you need something bigger, they have these dipping sauce or take out cups that you can get five or ten for $1 at any dollar store
As usual a well reasoned and well done video from Uncle Atom. Thanks for treating a subject I’m potentially interested in with care and attention to detail.
I heard poppers, those fidget toys are ideal pallets for little bits of washes or speed paints. They are rubber so when the paint drys you can just 'pop' it out
Right? They are from space now according to the AOS Fluff, I don’t see why GW hasn’t put the Seraphon in 40K? A Slann could be psyker instead of a mage I would think. The thought of a Stegadon, Carnosaur, Cold One, or a Terradon or Ripperdactyl having guns on them gives me fond childhood memories of Dino Riders.
I've only recently started trying contrast paints having had a break from painting regularly. If I'm having to put multiple thin coats on for a smooth finish, they aren't saving me any time over doing the same with regular acrylics. For me their strength has been in painting effects; muzzle burn, recess shading and the like. They're very good for that. It'll be interesting to see how the new range compares once the wider public gets their hands on them.
For context, I'd painted flat panels on a bike which came out patchy. I haven't tried scales or monster skin with it yet which will probably look better.
I just got the starter set i was thoroughly impressed. first how green orc skin is. Second how well it mixed with the zealot yellow to get a good looking tone. I like them better than contrast for the 1 coat get an army on the table job they seem to have better coverage, and easier to control on the brush.
Nice - I have the starter set pre-ordered already, agree with your desire to have these in pots rather than droppers - Army Painter and GW should have a swap session - sorted! The blue on your lizard man was lovely - I have an old project somewhere with 30 lizardmen built but not painted - this could be the inspiration I need to get star... Oh, squirrel!
The model looked great with just Contrast/Speed a little dry brushing and some Shade. You've made me want to finish my Daemons of Khorns with this method.
This was a great video! I'm new to painting and I've been stocking up on Army Painter Speedspaints. Would love to see more on how you do this type of speed painting. I'm trying to create a Blood Angel army (lol hint hint). Kudos!
First time seeing your channel. This video definitely got my “subscribe” with no hesitation. Thanks for the quality work on the content. I’m 100% sure I’ll be referring to this video (and others) numerous times as I start different paint projects with 40k and Kill Team.
Good Honest review. Great tip about using them with normal paints. GWS =$$$ +Pots vrs AP=$+Drop bottle. Normally that would be a win for Army Painter hands down but with these types of paints I think the Pots might be better. Doesn't matter as of right now (March 2022) you can't find the mega set any where.
Launch dates is on their website. Don’t know when they would become available in other stores. And shipping is expensive. I live in Denmark where I think they ship from. Still paying 12 euro for shipping.
My two cents on speed paints, I will absolutely be getting these over the citadel contrasts. Most of the time they tied with each other in performance, contrast did better on highlights/edges than speed paints, but they can be splotchy on the smooth parts. I don't think anyone is going to only be using contrast/speed paint on a model and call it good, it's gonna be given a dry brush highlight with other paints. And with that being the case, the non splotchy at a cheaper price def gets my buy.
Contrast/speed paints would let zenithal highlighting show through. I found that it doesn't really work well with standard acrylic paints (yes I thin my paints). The brood lord looks amazing.
I asked Army Painter about individuals on Facebook. They confirmed the racks of them will be hitting stores later this year. They weren't any more specific on dates than that though.
They may have some medium already mixed in with the paint pigments to give it that smooth finish over the models surface? I may give them a go if they come by my local store next month or a bit later?
This is the fifth video I’ve watched about the speed paints and so far all of them say they work very so I’m gonna pick some up sometime in the coming month
By the properties described in the video, I would guess that the Citadel Contrasts use a medium that is more volatile, allowing less deposition in the flats because the timescale on which it dries is shorter.
One big difference I've heard is that the AP:SP are very consistent in how they coat the model, where GW:CP have some that are thicker/thinner than others.
"I'm concerned about making a mess" LOL still uses gw Pots LOL , I have all my paints in dropper bottle after tipping over 2 contrast pots and at 12$ + a pot Im happy Speed paints are out as I switched from GW to AP 3 yrs ago and never looked back now I'm buying Vallejo and Pro Acryl paints to grow my paint line . Thanks for an Amazing video
Another fantastic review Unc, Thank you! Your painting is awesome! Did you by chance try a blow dryer at all for your drying issues? Wondering if they wouldn't smooth out as much. I will try.
Honestly that broodlood looks phenomenal. Incredible use of speedpaints.
The drybrushing definitely brings out the detail. Looks great.
Gotta love those makeup brushes. The paint job turned out better than I anticipated. Thanks for watching!
You’re right, so so good!
@@tabletopminions Do you think the zenithal highlight was worth it?
Did you say "evil butt"? Lulz
Holy crap! That Broodlord looks amazing!
Did you guys send a preview to Marco Frisoni? I'd love to see him review too on his channel too
Will/when will the Speed Paints be sold individually outside the sets??
@@EM-tx7qm they should release in single bottles with the big set om march 26'th.
Thanks for the video! Big things for me:
- less splotchy than GW
- colors not matching up exactly to GW means a bigger overall range
- dropper bottles mean less paint lost to cats :)
Also less paint lost to my own clumsiness 😂
You touched on the one thing here I don't see people doing, mixing them. They are still paints and mixing them often gives the color you want instead of the color provided.
Tip: Go to the dollar store and buy some army men. Chop off their heads and prime them white. Apply your Contrast/Speed paint and glue it to the lid of said paint.
Now you can clearly see what each color is/behaves.
Dude, that's brilliant!
Going further that excellent idea, I would add to prime two more heads, one with black and another with silver/metallic. Some speedpaints look better with white, others with black and if you paint armour definitely will be better in silver/metallic primes.
I'll be honest, I've been looking at these for a while now and they look really good. Comparatively speaking, just from looking at the videos, they seem to be more consistent than GW's contrast paints, and I think I'm going to grab the starter set in February. I normally use contrast paints for swarms of grunts or mobs that don't need to be super finely detailed, so these could be just what I need.
they are watery they are very runny and you really can't use them for any small detail work. they tend to pool randomly and is very very tough to control. my advice, get one bottle try it out yourself before investing in a full set.
That Brood Lord looks sick! I'm quite impressed by the speedpaint and the painter. Thanks for the review. I'll be using them strategically like you suggested.
I think that broodlord just sold me on zenithal + speed paints. The time vs quality ratio of that paint job is phenomenal!
You know, I keep thinking about how people would react had the Speedpaints come out first, and then two years later the Contrast line appears. I bet we would be seeing the same cautions curiosity but in reverse. Probably everybody would have developed a routine with SP that they were happy with and it would take some time to get used to how different Contrasts are. "Wait, you´re telling me that they do most of the same thing, but they´re splochier and twice the price? Eeeeeh, I´ll maybe grab a few, just for varietys´ sake".
All in all, I plan to go balls deep with Speedpaints, you just can´t beat the price tag, and I´ve got some big projects ahead...
Cracking video today, Adam. You've not only given a good, honest assessment of the speed paints, you've also offered some fairly straightforward instructions for how one might quickly paint up a large alien or lizard force. I really like those two models you've done
I'm going to review your review: very complete. Usually people either do samples or they paint a model. You do all kinds of stuff to put these paints through their pacings and I appreciate that. I learned about the paints, learned some techniques,... Good stuff
Every review i've seen makes me want to use them.
About the two issues you mention:
* A quick drybrush as you mention for the highlights is worth it, i'd say even with Contrast, so not bad.
* A cheap hairdryer on low will help with the drying time.
Soooo... In short they're the same BUT different. Seriously though. Well balanced review. Looks like a slight change in techniques to get the best out of these. Thanks for quality content.
They have the same stated goal, but quite different function. Most people airbrush glaze with Contrasts now, because they don't actually work as they were advertised. And that's fine, I'm going to try it myself this week. Just another tool. But these AP Speed Paints seem to actually do one-coat to contrast, which is cool.
These paints honestly seem made for a zenithal prime and drybrush highlight. Which is my preferred way of painting. I can't fix splotchy contrasts easily, but I can take the highlight up from speedpaints.
Yeah, if you have to fix a splotchy wash/contrast by hand you might as well have just shaded manually because it's just as much work. If these paints solve that problem they're a clear upgrade.
This is probably the most in depth and balanced review I've seen on these paints. Thanks for helping inform my decision come release date 👍
Gotta say I have watched now a number of review videos on Army Painter Speed Paints, overall I think they look great. I am definitely getting the full line of the speed paints. For me the cost is a huge defining factor. The Army Painter is a lil cheaper. Another great video and probably the better review of the Speed Paints.
I just wanted to thank you for putting out quality content. I had a stroke Monday and lost all feeling on the left side of my body, but the doctors say I'm young enough my brain should recover and with therapy I should get feeling and function back,but my doctor s husband plays Blood Blowl so she knew exactly everything I would talk about and why I was so upset I wouldn't be able to paint, but like I said, they think I'll be good as new and I getdischarged torrow and your videos along with MS Paints have kept me sane these past few days, so I just wanted to say thank you just for doing what you're doing.
I have seen several instances of the Speed Paint reactivating when new paint is applied on top of it, just as what happened with those lizard spikes. It seems to be more obvious with light colors on top of dark colors, but I would like to know if you have had any more experiences with this range.
Yea, someone elses review who started testing this had the reactivation issue even days later in his testing with some colours. It seels to depend on how much paint you are applying, like drybrushing unless heavily probably won't reactivate it, or highlighting work, but try to layer over it seems to add enough moisture to reactivate the paint.
I also use contrast for every model now. Perfect for base layer. Covers well and gives a bit of contrast. The biggest pro with speed paints though is going to be the dropper bottles. I do not want to have to open the bottle every time I need more paint. And yes I have one wet palette for opaque colours and a solid with holes for washes and contrasts.
I'm *definitely* using that pinkish-purple on my own Tyranids in the future. Thank you for the tip.
Looks like another tool for the “painter’s tool belt”. Thanks for the consistent quality - both content & production 👍🏻
Thanks for mentioning mixing them. I was trying to find information on how easy that was.
I have used contrast. I do plan on trying speed paints, especially once we get the individual bottles available instead of just kits.
I personally dislike citadel pots outright, so if I could switch to all dropper bottles that would be great. I will probably still use the GW washes though because they’re so good
Thank you so much for testing out mixing two speed paint colors together. I've been trying to find out if anyone had tested this yet as a way to grow the color range. Now to just see if anyone has tried blending the white and black speed paints into other colors yet.
I've heard that the speed paints give you more of a highlight if you put a glossy coat over your priming... apparently they flow a little better then.
I stopped painting about 2 years ago and have been thinking about getting back into it. Saw an ad for speedpaint and it seems that it does what I used to do with inks/washes - but much better. I also never thought about using a cheap makeup brush for dry brushing and if I do get back into the hobby I'll have to get some. The way the Tyranid turned out is amazing.
The mixing of the speedpaints with the white is apparently not an issue of not waiting long enough. There is another video which confirms that these speedpaints reactivate again and again if you paint over other colors.
From the looks of them the speed paints use the same medium as their tone range which would account for them drying slower and smoother. The price is tempting
Hi, thank you for your opinion about the difference, between the two kind of colors, I was still not so sure to give them both a try, I'm kind of bound to the good old technique, but you made me think that perhaps there's something new out there that worth the effort to try and do something different. Thanks, go on with the good job
Not a chemist, but it does sound as though the greater pull of Citadel both gives the sharper highlight and the splotchiness as it pulls together. So more (and a little different) tools for the toolbox
Recently started this hobby and found army painter speedpaint and army painter paints in general are just awesome. Bought a ton of them and I'm stoked.
I like to add a few drops of water to dilute contrast paints a lot. That might help the army painter pull away from the highlight areas
Have you thought of adding a little thin acrylic matte medium to the Speed Paint? That may allow the color to pull away from the edges.
best review I've seen on these paints so far, thanks for doing it!
Thanks, UA. Regarding pulling away from sharp edges the way Contrast Paint does, I'm wondering if adding a drop or two of Citadel Contrast Medium or even TAP Speedpaint Medium to "thin/dilute" them a bit more than out of the bottle would help. It's great to have more colors and tools IMHO. Good video - again!
Also - regarding paint pots vs dropper bottles, when I moved my Citadel paints to dropper bottles, I saved most of the 12ml and 18ml pots (washed them out of course) so I could use them for something else... if you do the same, you can pour the SpeedPaints into the repurposed Citadel pots easy peasy. No waste!
Thanks for this comparison. I've always wanted to try contrast paints and I was excited to see speedpaints were half the price, but I was concerned they'd be a lower quality. Glad to see that's not the case. I ordered a bunch of speedpaints and I'm looking forward to getting models on the table faster!
Hey I haven't read through the comments, but you could pull the dropper out of the bottle so you could dip directly into it. It's an extra step but, in my opinion, a small inconvenience at best. I've always loved army painters line especially their range of spray cans so I'm excited to get my hands on their speed paints and compare them to my contrast.
Thank you so much, you have been a great help to me. I love painting minis, but am not very good. You have helped me tremendously.
Danggg that Brood Lord looks insanely good! Now I wanna paint one and steal your ideas 😉
The Broodlord looks fantastic. Great video, completely agree that they are part of the quiver.
The brood lord came out excellent... VERY nice, he pops in the right ways. super useful thoughts, thank you Uncle Adam... between you, Squiddy, Dana Howl and the resident Goober chemist I think I've got an excellent overview of these new paints... looks like another useful tool in the utility belt depending on what you're doing. Dig the entry price
You just levelled up you paintjobs, those highlights etc 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks for the video
Ok so your review swayed me and I have the basic set on order (can’t wait for the mega 😁). I have watched a lot of the reviews on YT and was a bit mixed but your test on that first model was a game changer for me.
Adam, I really like your video and find that I tend to agree with you on many things. I enjoy the way you present your opinions. This video it no exception. We've been in the hobby for about the same time period, so I think we have similar old man attitudes.
Concerning this video, the face peeking up over the edge of frame is hilarious. However, I did find it distracting.
Thanks so much for showing the mash up process you use of contrast painting! Using washes, dry brushing & edge highlighting all together looks amazing! I was thinking about doing something similar to make the speed painting process look better.
Speedpaints alone are a fine place to start, but with adding some other simple techniques you can really take your figures to the next level. Thanks for watching!
I think since this video we're starting to see the reactivation is present across the line, and if you treat it like a feature rather than a bug you'll get on with them fine. Always varnish for sealing if you need it.
I was just thinking as you were talking about price "AND they come in dropper bottles, I'd pay more for dropper bottles". I understand preferring washes and such in pots, but I think its nostalgia from Citadel and they just always tip and spill and dehydrate. Dropper bottles are the way to go if you have a pallet.
with dropper bottles you can convert them into "pots" with this one simple trick: pull out the pour spout ( like you would to add mixing balls ) then you get all the "benefits" of a pot: if you knock it over it spills all over the desk, it dries out quicker, you can jam your entire brush in there for easier cross contamination of colours until they are all a nonuniform brown, etc ;)
Mmmm, I must be using the contrast pots wrong. I’ve never been able to get any of those wonderful benefits out of them.
What I’ve been doing has been keeping my empty paint bottles and pots, been using the newest gw pot style for holding spare ball bearings to put in new paint bottles that don’t have them and other things like that don’t try out, and been putting my transparent paints in p3’s style pots
Good review and excellent demonstration of how the two types of paint compare. Impressed with the broodlord as well. The whole zenithal technique is reminiscent of the glazing technique used by Don Suratos.
That Broodlord looks amazing!
that tyranid looks pretty amazing, you should do more painting videos with this simple straightforward approach. Many painting videos on YT but most of them are more advanced than they seem
I paint all my Blood Angels with contrast paints. Blood Angels Red is an amazing color, and once you figure out the technique of how to apply them correctly, contrast looks great even on the shoulder pads and other flat surfaces. I’m interested in trying Speed Paints for a few of their colors, but it’s clear that Contrast flows more into the recesses in those examples. If you look at the orange comparison on the bolters, the recesses are much darker on the Citadel one.
in answer to your plight with the army painter speedpaints in dropper bottles, my solution has been to put paints like that in an old geedub wash pot after a rinse and a new label... simple, free solution
Great video ... also great paint jobs ! Deffently getting the full set.
Honestly, I was shocked at how good the Broodlord came out, and how simple it was. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the review. I was looking for a "real-life" review. Using the speedpaints in a realistic way. Like: I want to paint this model/army. How will I do it? Can Speedpaints help me with that? I was in doubt before but after your review, I will definetly use the pallid bone and red to paint my tyranid army and the greens to paint my salamanders and blue and pallid to paint my eldar. And after your review, I know that it won't be a no-brainer but it will help me tremendously.
A tip on dry brush: the Army Painter's "masterclass" dry brush set is really good. They're the cheaper alternative to Artis Opus series D brushes, and are practically the exact same brushes. They work a lot better than most makeup brushes.
loooove the broodlord, so i will take advice and use speedpaint with dry brushing
The broodlord came out really nice.... But I am too curious: a video about mixing Speed and Contrast paints?!
A really easy and cheap way to use inks/washes in a dropper bottle is to use any cap you have left over from a water bottle, jug of milk etc.
If you need something bigger, they have these dipping sauce or take out cups that you can get five or ten for $1 at any dollar store
As usual a well reasoned and well done video from Uncle Atom. Thanks for treating a subject I’m potentially interested in with care and attention to detail.
That Broodlord is fabulous. Shall put in an order for both! Cheers!
I wish I’d known there was a big set before I ordered the small set.
I heard poppers, those fidget toys are ideal pallets for little bits of washes or speed paints. They are rubber so when the paint drys you can just 'pop' it out
Awesome comparison and review followed by even better tutorials. Thank you!
Thanks for putting this out. Always good to have another tool in the bag.
The paint jobs are awesome.
I love the idea of the 40k lizard-man.
Right? They are from space now according to the AOS Fluff, I don’t see why GW hasn’t put the Seraphon in 40K? A Slann could be psyker instead of a mage I would think. The thought of a Stegadon, Carnosaur, Cold One, or a Terradon or Ripperdactyl having guns on them gives me fond childhood memories of Dino Riders.
What the Heck, Man. That Is a wonderful purple on the carapace o.o. Very nice work.
I've only recently started trying contrast paints having had a break from painting regularly. If I'm having to put multiple thin coats on for a smooth finish, they aren't saving me any time over doing the same with regular acrylics.
For me their strength has been in painting effects; muzzle burn, recess shading and the like. They're very good for that. It'll be interesting to see how the new range compares once the wider public gets their hands on them.
For context, I'd painted flat panels on a bike which came out patchy. I haven't tried scales or monster skin with it yet which will probably look better.
I just got the starter set i was thoroughly impressed. first how green orc skin is. Second how well it mixed with the zealot yellow to get a good looking tone. I like them better than contrast for the 1 coat get an army on the table job they seem to have better coverage, and easier to control on the brush.
looks great, not available until late Feb for starter set and March for mega set.
Nice - I have the starter set pre-ordered already, agree with your desire to have these in pots rather than droppers - Army Painter and GW should have a swap session - sorted! The blue on your lizard man was lovely - I have an old project somewhere with 30 lizardmen built but not painted - this could be the inspiration I need to get star... Oh, squirrel!
The model looked great with just Contrast/Speed a little dry brushing and some Shade. You've made me want to finish my Daemons of Khorns with this method.
Whoa that Broodlord is fire!
Awesome video, love that lord, I have yet to add speedpaints to my collection, I also mix contrast with other paints.
Thanks for the informative video. I'm convinced to get them and try it out. The brood lord looks awesome.
Other painters have reported that speed paints reactivate when you paint over it.
This was a great video! I'm new to painting and I've been stocking up on Army Painter Speedspaints. Would love to see more on how you do this type of speed painting. I'm trying to create a Blood Angel army (lol hint hint). Kudos!
That Broodlord looks pretty snazzy. Thanks for the review, and the Genestealer tutorial (yes I will be referring to this)!
First time seeing your channel. This video definitely got my “subscribe” with no hesitation. Thanks for the quality work on the content. I’m 100% sure I’ll be referring to this video (and others) numerous times as I start different paint projects with 40k and Kill Team.
Good Honest review. Great tip about using them with normal paints. GWS =$$$ +Pots vrs AP=$+Drop bottle. Normally that would be a win for Army Painter hands down but with these types of paints I think the Pots might be better. Doesn't matter as of right now (March 2022) you can't find the mega set any where.
broodlord painting came up excellent.
Launch dates is on their website. Don’t know when they would become available in other stores. And shipping is expensive. I live in Denmark where I think they ship from. Still paying 12 euro for shipping.
My two cents on speed paints, I will absolutely be getting these over the citadel contrasts. Most of the time they tied with each other in performance, contrast did better on highlights/edges than speed paints, but they can be splotchy on the smooth parts. I don't think anyone is going to only be using contrast/speed paint on a model and call it good, it's gonna be given a dry brush highlight with other paints. And with that being the case, the non splotchy at a cheaper price def gets my buy.
Your shirts eyes are burning into my soul.
I already bought the starter set but this video was still very worth watching.
Contrast/speed paints would let zenithal highlighting show through. I found that it doesn't really work well with standard acrylic paints (yes I thin my paints). The brood lord looks amazing.
I asked Army Painter about individuals on Facebook. They confirmed the racks of them will be hitting stores later this year. They weren't any more specific on dates than that though.
YES. This is exactly what I've been waiting for.
really liked the tau drone used as a shield.
They may have some medium already mixed in with the paint pigments to give it that smooth finish over the models surface? I may give them a go if they come by my local store next month or a bit later?
This is the fifth video I’ve watched about the speed paints and so far all of them say they work very so I’m gonna pick some up sometime in the coming month
By the properties described in the video, I would guess that the Citadel Contrasts use a medium that is more volatile, allowing less deposition in the flats because the timescale on which it dries is shorter.
One big difference I've heard is that the AP:SP are very consistent in how they coat the model, where GW:CP have some that are thicker/thinner than others.
Hey, just comenting the end about dropper bottles and the wash cointainers makes all set also wish all brands did that
Nice video! I am thinking about getting the small set and this helped a lot.
The Broodlord looks super nice!
"I'm concerned about making a mess" LOL still uses gw Pots LOL , I have all my paints in dropper bottle after tipping over 2 contrast pots and at 12$ + a pot Im happy Speed paints are out as I switched from GW to AP 3 yrs ago and never looked back now I'm buying Vallejo and Pro Acryl paints to grow my paint line . Thanks for an Amazing video
Really nice results from the speed paints, every wargaming youtuber that i saw say good things overall
Another fantastic review Unc, Thank you! Your painting is awesome! Did you by chance try a blow dryer at all for your drying issues? Wondering if they wouldn't smooth out as much. I will try.
Thank you for this review, your test on the brood lord is amazing! I will definitely buy the mega paint set.