Listening to this for the first time just before the first Capitals pre-season game of the 2021-22 season. The best part is that you guys were worried about Ovechkin making $9.5m at 31 and now he's going to be making that at 40 thanks to his new contract!
I have a feeling that Vegas is not going to bad like everyone says. They can do what ever they like. If the team gets build the right way, pick the right players they might surprise you all.
sorry guys but there's no way Alexander the Great would get traded, stop blaming the Caps losses on a guy who DOES show up in the playoffs every year averaging just under a point per game. he's literally the all time face of the Caps franchise and simply means way to much to the franchise, Maryland D.C. community and owner Ted Leonsis
Pens fan here. This is more interesting than whatever you could say about the series. So few angles left to cover, and most of them not worth covering.
GIROUX!!! Think this through. Couturier, Konecny, Hiscier or Patrick. Giroux goes and you leave Hiscier or Patrick to play with Ovechkin AND Vorachek. Couturier to play L2 center with a guy like Evander Kane or someone they sign. That leaves Konecny to move to the wing with Filpulla at Center. Thats a pretty ridiculous Forward core. Philly also has a few great D Prospects, sign a solid goalie and plant those in with Ghost and Provorov. Boom Philly's a powerhouse
"What if you're the team who buys and you set your franchise back 10 years?" Talking about 9.5 million for 4 years for Alex Ovechkin? The greatest if not the 2nd best goal scorer of all time. How would your team suck 'for a decade' if you traded for Ovechkin? At his age who is unloading more than 1 or 2, 1st rd picks or top prospects? Doesnt your team have half their cap tied up in 4 players for the next 6 years?? Ovechkin > Tavares, Matthews + Marner
This will NEVER happen, but say Alzner leaves Washington (as that is looking likely), I would say Pietrangelo, Fabbri, and a first rounder for Ovi would be insane. I'm clearly a St Louis fan, but if that trade happened, man I'd be psyched. Having the two best Russian wingers in the league on the same top line. Man oh man. Highlight reel stuff happening every night
No vegas was taking flower and now playing Grubs and Colorado. And ovechkin didn't get traded and then won a cup. Did the leafs lose in the 1st rd this season to lol.
i don't think ovechkin goes to the new york islanders or vegas golden knights. He is going to be moved to a cup contending team not one that is in a building process. No way he goes out without winning at least one maybe 2 cups. Ovechkin would most likely head west to LA, ANA, CHI, NSH. The final team i would consider is TOR if he stayed in the east but it just depends on the value of the trade
Randall Hahn dude the sharks would be robbed. In my opinion ovechkin is not a superstar anymore skill wise. You have to look at how ovi has dropped. Most very good players start to drop off slowly and then are awful by 40. Ovi dropped so far in a span off two years
Pavelski struggled too. I thin k a change of scenery is needed for both players. Pavs is captain of USA hockey, Oshie looking to sign big deal. Would be big for fans. Ovie grew up a sharks fan and with the recent EURO trend the sharks made, the deal would make sense.
Call me crazy. I think Ovi may go to Russia next year. The Caps let him down, and with the league not wanting to let NHLers to the Olympics, something he said he certainly wants to do. If thats the case, Russia and Ovi may have a chance to win something, with no Canada and no Crosby to haunt his dreams
I wonder how many people regret their comments and if Steve wished this didn't happen because not only did Washington face Vegas in the finals but that would have been the worst trade in the history of the nhl. And I love Steve but this one is baaaadddddd
Also I think all this ovechkin trade talk is ridiculous the caps won't trade there best player I think ov was good in the playoffs and has been this year holtby wasn't at his best mr game 7 disappeared in game 7 vs pitt. I think if they change the players around ov like in bottom 6 and maybe 1. Or 2 in the top 6 because it's a lot easier to make your team worse than it is better.
Nathan Hall that's because they're teams are Equal in talent. Other than Crosby and Mallon they're team is equal and can play together no matter the line. Ovi is so much more talented that it's a gap. But it doesn't escape the fact that through out his career he isn't a playoff guy.
I'm Nation true but they also can do some stuff to improve bottom 6 like they have some good prospects like vrana and since expansion draft is coming there might be some d available that normally wouldn't be be if the clans wanna win it has to be this coming up season or one after maybe but by then they would definitely trade ov
Ovi agrees to be paid less to join the Champ Penguins for several first round draft picks. He can join because of a lower cap. New Pittsburgh first two lines: Jake Gentzel Sidney Crosby Alex Ovechkin Kris Letang Trevor Daily Evgeni Malkin Phil Kessel Nick Bonino Justin Shultz Ian Cole Goalies' Matt Murray Tristan Jarry Powerplay Top Line: Evgeni Malkin Sidney Crosby Alex Ovechkin Kris Letang Justin Shultz Powerplay Second Line: Jake Gentzel Phil Kessel Kris Kunitz Trevor Daily Ian Cole
f1videowatcher Bonino plays center. Kunitz will be gone next year, same with Daley. Pitt can't afford OV unless Wash takes some salary. And Wash would never trade OV to a team in the East, let alone a rival
f1videowatcher okay this is crazy ready? 1st PP: Kessel Malkin Crosby with Ovi BEHIND Crosby at the Blue line and Letang being the actual responsible defenseman on the left. Kessel gets his spot, Malkin gets the crease, Crosby gets to play make between Alexander Ovechkin and Evgeni Malkin (with potential seem pass to Kessel), Ovi gets to shoot with his right handed shot from a pass for Crosby, and because the world is broken Kessel is still going to get every goal somehow.
The money is what is going to make a deal the hardest. I also argue that he is in his decline he had 1 bad season 4 years ago he had a bad season then had 3 straight 50 goal seasons
Marcus N he's not a 3rd liner.... he was put on the 3rd line in the playoffs. There's massive difference there. You have to understand that the 3rd line of the Caps last year was extremely productive in the regular season, and they didn't show up for the playoffs. Trotz was trying to generate traction on that line. I mean come on Alexander Ovechkin a 3rd line player? You're dreaming
I'm sorry. I'm a caps fan and I think trading Ovi would be best for the franchise. Sadly but truly Ovi is depleting drastically. He is already on our third line. I can except the fact we are in a rebuild phase. Get some picks. A good young player. And start over.
He's not on our third line, that was for the playoffs cause he wasn't putting up. (you're not a caps fan) I agree that the only reason for trading him would be cap space to rebuild but if we could keep him for less we would, he's a generational talent.
Mr. J , I understand that but all good things must come to an end. Sadly it's nearing the end. Even if he's not on our third line for the regular season this year it would be nice to get some value out of him while we can. And I am a caps fan thank you very much
Yeah that wasn't nice sorry, I just feel like as long as he has his shot, he can rally up goal every season, kessel isn't a rocket richard winner, just a goal scoring sniper, that's what ovi needs to be, it's not about numbers anymore (stats)
Truthfully I'd support him if he went to like the Hawks, You can't say he deserves the shit he'd get because he's tried his life out in washington, and I think since Kane and Artemi work so well together, maybe teows and ovechkin could try it out? Plus the rest of the team would be just as amazing with the added addition
Might sound crazy, but the Leafs can win the cup next year like this To Caps: Auston Matthews Jake Gardiner (15% retained) William Nylander Frederik Anderson (20% retained) 2017 and 2018 first round picks Kyle Dubas To Leafs: Lars Eller Alex Ovechkin
This is hilarious 2+ years later. Thanks for recommending it, UA-cam algorithm.
3 years, thank you algorithm. Lol 😆
Lol when he said "they can't have 30 mil wrapped up in 3 players"
well well well steve
Watching this in August 2018 is so funny
“They can’t have 30 mill wrapped in three players!”
Well.....
Lol this aged well, 7 goals in two games!
Lol. Didn't age well at all. OV to Vegas eh. It's like you kinda could see the future ......but on drugs.
Listening to this for the first time just before the first Capitals pre-season game of the 2021-22 season. The best part is that you guys were worried about Ovechkin making $9.5m at 31 and now he's going to be making that at 40 thanks to his new contract!
Gonna be hilarious when they’re doing this same chat for Auston Matthews
Phaneuf and a cheeseburger for Ovi
Beau is in New Jersey, not Buffalo.
I love such discussions on this pod...
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Awesome that you chop these nowadays
I have a feeling that Vegas is not going to bad like everyone says. They can do what ever they like. If the team gets build the right way, pick the right players they might surprise you all.
Good call. One of the few
sorry guys but there's no way Alexander the Great would get traded, stop blaming the Caps losses on a guy who DOES show up in the playoffs every year averaging just under a point per game. he's literally the all time face of the Caps franchise and simply means way to much to the franchise, Maryland D.C. community and owner Ted Leonsis
BruteStrength see THIS iasa comment that aged well
I love watching these type of podcasts thanks Steve Dangle👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇨🇦🔵🍁🔵
Go leafs go!!!
"we know he's in decline" on pace for 70 goals in 21-22 lol
Yep. 3 Straight Rockets and another 264 goals scored in 426 games for a 50.8 average over 82 games pace after this from his age 32 to age 37 seasons.😂
I had the same reaction when he said Edmonton (as a oiler fan)
Almost a year later, he’s a game away from the finals.
I am two minutes in and the placement of that coffee cup between his arm and laptop is making me nervous
Well this aged horribly.
Brian Fell not really
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Wow this aged TERRIBLY. “We know he is on decline.” Steve...... buddy.... it’s like he heard this and took it personally.
Lol whos here after he signed the 5 year deal
Pens fan here. This is more interesting than whatever you could say about the series. So few angles left to cover, and most of them not worth covering.
Vanecek is good prospect. Had a decent season in the AHL this season
what site does Steve use to view all the draft picks and such?
Las Vegas for Ovechkin?
GIROUX!!! Think this through. Couturier, Konecny, Hiscier or Patrick. Giroux goes and you leave Hiscier or Patrick to play with Ovechkin AND Vorachek. Couturier to play L2 center with a guy like Evander Kane or someone they sign. That leaves Konecny to move to the wing with Filpulla at Center. Thats a pretty ridiculous Forward core. Philly also has a few great D Prospects, sign a solid goalie and plant those in with Ghost and Provorov. Boom Philly's a powerhouse
ECHO SN LEAVE MY FLYERS OUT OF THIS HOW DARE YOU SIRE
ECHO SN never not even close to fair
ECHO SN Hey, being a Pens fan, that would be scary, yet EPIC for the Pennsylvania rivalry
too bad this never happened and the flyers are gonna be trash per usual
SensesCOD
Good call
Well, his price went up again. 7 goals in 2 games.
15:55-16:00..... Little did they know.
“Some guy named Vitek Vanecek I’ve never heard of”
its a big risk..
I always listen on iTunes but just wanted to come here to comment on how the hell you guys spent 24 minutes on trading ovi
This hasn't aged well haha
February 2018: Evander Kane and Matt Moulson to Washington Capitals for Alexander Ovechkin. Thanks, Adam.
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Ovi doesn't decline Steve lol
We just have to remember what Steve said: saying you're going to trade your Russian superstar and then not trading him is _the_ formula to win the cup
Lydia Bell this comment aged the best out of all of them gj man
Hes retiring a capital yo. The asking price would be insane.
Stunned that Steve knows who Jared goff is.
Revisiting this and ovi might end up getting 60 goals this year lol.
"What if you're the team who buys and you set your franchise back 10 years?"
Talking about 9.5 million for 4 years for Alex Ovechkin? The greatest if not the 2nd best goal scorer of all time. How would your team suck 'for a decade' if you traded for Ovechkin? At his age who is unloading more than 1 or 2, 1st rd picks or top prospects?
Doesnt your team have half their cap tied up in 4 players for the next 6 years??
Ovechkin > Tavares, Matthews + Marner
brad park and a conditional 7th rounder. awarded if park scores 40 goals in this season.
Arizona? they get datsyuk off the books this year which is 7 million in cap space. also they have some good prospects and players and picks.
nikith ganan there is no logic to that in any way
This will NEVER happen, but say Alzner leaves Washington (as that is looking likely), I would say Pietrangelo, Fabbri, and a first rounder for Ovi would be insane. I'm clearly a St Louis fan, but if that trade happened, man I'd be psyched. Having the two best Russian wingers in the league on the same top line. Man oh man. Highlight reel stuff happening every night
"we know he's in decline" in 2017. Yeah, right.
Why would the trade for ovi when he's retiring in like 2 years?
this didnt age well
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the Habs don't have anything to trade for OV lol they're not getting rid of price. would be sick for them though
Ovechkin in a bruins jersey would be my dream.
A bad dream, right?
Adam Gaposchkin ok, then give up Pastrnak or McAvoy or Carlo or Krug, that would be a really stupid move for the Bruins
Adam Gaposchkin ew
was just my utopian version of the Bs haha. i agree that would be a bad trade.
Adam Gaposchkin what a nightmare
No vegas was taking flower and now playing Grubs and Colorado. And ovechkin didn't get traded and then won a cup. Did the leafs lose in the 1st rd this season to lol.
2nd round pick and maybe a AHL player
They didn't say anything about Arizona. They have cap space and pieces to move. That's a real possibly if Ovi waives his no trade clause.
hahaha Reid Duke for Ovi :P like Brendan Prust for McDavid lol
Lmao this aged well
with that contract a box of pucks and a broken stick is a fair trade
danrg26 and a cheap stick at that.
Two clowns right here
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i don't think ovechkin goes to the new york islanders or vegas golden knights. He is going to be moved to a cup contending team not one that is in a building process. No way he goes out without winning at least one maybe 2 cups. Ovechkin would most likely head west to LA, ANA, CHI, NSH. The final team i would consider is TOR if he stayed in the east but it just depends on the value of the trade
Adam just says every player wants to be traded lmao
In NHL 17 Franchise Mode. When he's 35, they try to trade him for a 3rd 😂
Alexander Ovechkin for Philip Forsberg
822 goals
Ovechkin & future conditional pick to SJ for Joe Pavelski, Aaron Dell, 2nd round pick
Randall Hahn that would be a terrible trade.
Randall Hahn god no
Randall Hahn dude the sharks would be robbed. In my opinion ovechkin is not a superstar anymore skill wise. You have to look at how ovi has dropped. Most very good players start to drop off slowly and then are awful by 40. Ovi dropped so far in a span off two years
Pavelski struggled too. I thin k a change of scenery is needed for both players. Pavs is captain of USA hockey, Oshie looking to sign big deal. Would be big for fans. Ovie grew up a sharks fan and with the recent EURO trend the sharks made, the deal would make sense.
either way it looks like the sharks are gonna get Kovalchuck
Call me crazy. I think Ovi may go to Russia next year. The Caps let him down, and with the league not wanting to let NHLers to the Olympics, something he said he certainly wants to do. If thats the case, Russia and Ovi may have a chance to win something, with no Canada and no Crosby to haunt his dreams
Everyone is talking about how poorly this aged, but I'm more concerned about the video's preview picture. Red comic sans. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Montreal don't need a center? Geez... They are in desperate need of a center!!
Martin Kirouac did you see pactioretty Points this year? i thibk it was 82 or 60 points
Imagine San Jose drops Thornton and marleau, trade for ovi. Sharks don't have anything to give though :/
pavelski, multiple goalies, boedker, schlemko, donskoi, braun
Randall Hahn for ovi man? Nah
I wonder how many people regret their comments and if Steve wished this didn't happen because not only did Washington face Vegas in the finals but that would have been the worst trade in the history of the nhl. And I love Steve but this one is baaaadddddd
Ovechkin- Hertl, Meier, Braun
Rubber Ding-Dong Coture Boedker and Lebanc
Rubber Ding-Dong idiot. Get off your own team. Those three combined aren't even worth Justin Williams.
ovechkin has 5 years left, hertl has 15, meier has 20, braun has 9.
Rubber Ding-Dong still a pipe dream.
And they won next year. So maybe they were listening to the podcast lol.
If my team took on Ovi and his contract I'd be pissed lol
this comment aged well. LOL
You didnt want Alexander Ovechkin.....lol, why do u even watch hockey?
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I'll give Washington thirteen dollars for him to mow my lawn. That's fair.
Austin Hammond AHHH HINDSIGHT AHHH
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Also I think all this ovechkin trade talk is ridiculous the caps won't trade there best player I think ov was good in the playoffs and has been this year holtby wasn't at his best mr game 7 disappeared in game 7 vs pitt. I think if they change the players around ov like in bottom 6 and maybe 1. Or 2 in the top 6 because it's a lot easier to make your team worse than it is better.
Nathan Hall ovechkin is never good in the playoffs. He is just a power play man. Trade him get that money, and rebuild
I'm Nation ov can't do it all players around him have to help to like they need more from the bottom 6 like what u get with pitt or the preds
Nathan Hall that's because they're teams are Equal in talent. Other than Crosby and Mallon they're team is equal and can play together no matter the line.
Ovi is so much more talented that it's a gap. But it doesn't escape the fact that through out his career he isn't a playoff guy.
I'm Nation true but they also can do some stuff to improve bottom 6 like they have some good prospects like vrana and since expansion draft is coming there might be some d available that normally wouldn't be be if the clans wanna win it has to be this coming up season or one after maybe but by then they would definitely trade ov
Nathan Hall yeah true. The caps blow me because they haven't built around him at all. Now in the last portion of his career they may try too.
Chicago doesn't make sense there's no way their cap can fit him
This did not age especially well
Crosby
Chicago TRADES Panerin debrincat 1st round pick and Hossa for ovi
I would not pay that for a 32 year old Ovechkin..
Jack Maloney What are you smoking?
Jack Maloney Maybe Panarin and a first but Jesus that's overpaying to the max...
***** right? I wouldnt even trade panarin for Ovi straight across.
pacioretty for ovechkin???
jlhockey10 at first i thought hell no but maybe
Have the habs throw in a second round pick for 2019 and ill take it.
This didnt age well🤣🤣
Ovi agrees to be paid less to join the Champ Penguins for several first round draft picks. He can join because of a lower cap.
New Pittsburgh first two lines:
Jake Gentzel Sidney Crosby Alex Ovechkin
Kris Letang Trevor Daily
Evgeni Malkin Phil Kessel Nick Bonino
Justin Shultz Ian Cole
Goalies' Matt Murray Tristan Jarry
Powerplay Top Line:
Evgeni Malkin Sidney Crosby Alex Ovechkin
Kris Letang Justin Shultz
Powerplay Second Line:
Jake Gentzel Phil Kessel Kris Kunitz
Trevor Daily Ian Cole
f1videowatcher I pray to God in heaven this would never happen.
Jesus fuck, the nhl will be like the NBA
f1videowatcher Bonino plays center. Kunitz will be gone next year, same with Daley. Pitt can't afford OV unless Wash takes some salary. And Wash would never trade OV to a team in the East, let alone a rival
f1videowatcher okay this is crazy ready? 1st PP: Kessel Malkin Crosby with Ovi BEHIND Crosby at the Blue line and Letang being the actual responsible defenseman on the left. Kessel gets his spot, Malkin gets the crease, Crosby gets to play make between Alexander Ovechkin and Evgeni Malkin (with potential seem pass to Kessel), Ovi gets to shoot with his right handed shot from a pass for Crosby, and because the world is broken Kessel is still going to get every goal somehow.
The money is what is going to make a deal the hardest. I also argue that he is in his decline he had 1 bad season 4 years ago he had a bad season then had 3 straight 50 goal seasons
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I wouldn't want it but johnathin droin for ovechkin
The lightning wouldn't have the cap space
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ovi to L.A. kings.
Tiger Woods
Spiceking02 I would take Tiger to Ovi any day.
What if OVI and a 3rd goes to PIT for Crisby
*Crosby
hcky edits1540 That would be the dumbest trade in NHL history by far.... Not even close to being as bad as anything ever lol
Evander Kane and a first rounder for ovi
Austin Kurmay it would have to involve Rienhart or eichel
Jakob Aguilar yeah because an aging 3rd liner is worth a franchise center
Reinhart + Kane + picks seems fair
Marcus N he's not a 3rd liner.... he was put on the 3rd line in the playoffs. There's massive difference there. You have to understand that the 3rd line of the Caps last year was extremely productive in the regular season, and they didn't show up for the playoffs. Trotz was trying to generate traction on that line. I mean come on Alexander Ovechkin a 3rd line player? You're dreaming
I'm sorry. I'm a caps fan and I think trading Ovi would be best for the franchise. Sadly but truly Ovi is depleting drastically. He is already on our third line. I can except the fact we are in a rebuild phase. Get some picks. A good young player. And start over.
He's not on our third line, that was for the playoffs cause he wasn't putting up. (you're not a caps fan) I agree that the only reason for trading him would be cap space to rebuild but if we could keep him for less we would, he's a generational talent.
Mr. J , I understand that but all good things must come to an end. Sadly it's nearing the end. Even if he's not on our third line for the regular season this year it would be nice to get some value out of him while we can. And I am a caps fan thank you very much
Mr. J I have to agree with you about the cap space. That would be awesome if he had a smaller contract.
Yeah that wasn't nice sorry, I just feel like as long as he has his shot, he can rally up goal every season, kessel isn't a rocket richard winner, just a goal scoring sniper, that's what ovi needs to be, it's not about numbers anymore (stats)
Truthfully I'd support him if he went to like the Hawks, You can't say he deserves the shit he'd get because he's tried his life out in washington, and I think since Kane and Artemi work so well together, maybe teows and ovechkin could try it out? Plus the rest of the team would be just as amazing with the added addition
Vladamir Tarasenko swap with ovi
Darek Malhotra you're delusional, tarasenko has better upside
Darek Malhotra Tarasenko is a positive team player ovechkin is not
Darek Malhotra as a Blues fan, I'm offended you're this dumb. Lmfao
Darek Malhotra that's a very bad deal for St. Louis
please stay ovechkin :(
a 1rst round pic in the top3 would be enough
Bag of pucks
Let's wreck team because they can't beat 1 team in the playoffs! Makes complete sense.
Pieshka Coltic because the salary cap
Ovechkin for 2017 1st round pick, 2018 1st round pick, Dennis Wideman, Oliver Kylington and Micheal Frolik
haha f. crazy.. one 1st round pick in the top 2-3 is enough
Might sound crazy, but the Leafs can win the cup next year like this
To Caps:
Auston Matthews
Jake Gardiner (15% retained)
William Nylander
Frederik Anderson (20% retained)
2017 and 2018 first round picks
Kyle Dubas
To Leafs:
Lars Eller
Alex Ovechkin
haha Vegas has nothing to trade for him ..
jesus they need pop filters on their mics
Caps need to give up Ovi and Winnik, re-sign everyone, take Kunitz and Bonino in free agency. That'll be the team to win it all.
Ben Scanlon Kunitz is 37. If Pittsburgh doesnt pick offer him another contract he'll definitely retire.
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um a far trade would be 1 first round pick and steven stamkos
Oilers trade Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and Jordan Eeberle for Ovechkin
Scott Seney Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
add conor mcadavid
Scott Seney I genuinely agree
MIN trades LW Zach Parise, RW Tyler Ennis and a 2nd for Ovechkin
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I would say palat and sustr from Tampa
Ovi for maatta and hagelin
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Ovie to the Blues for Statsny, Edmunson, Wash. 1st, & STL 1st..........and a 2nd
i hope SO FUCKING BADLY Ovechkin goes to Toronto