Shiina Talks About How She and Phase Have Grown

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  • @NativeWeasel
    @NativeWeasel Рік тому +376

    It's so cute how meemaw constantly pops out from behind the tablet. Also fishman... good?

    • @ab2aasd
      @ab2aasd Рік тому +73

      Fishman best idoru

    • @Jobocan.
      @Jobocan. Рік тому +27

      Fishman good.
      But also Fishman Hate!

    • @IncredibleMD
      @IncredibleMD 11 місяців тому +8

      Fishman's just looking out for Number One: His warehouse.

  • @featherlessbipedal724
    @featherlessbipedal724 Рік тому +349

    I think a lot of it comes down to how genuine Phase feels. I think that’s what the west craves most

    • @grrman
      @grrman Рік тому +73

      Nah, it's the relatableness of all the menhera sadgirls we all crave

    • @Duamerthrax
      @Duamerthrax Рік тому +93

      @@grrman I think I hear more indies talk about wanting to join phase then any other company. They're the right mix of approachable and professional. Sakana also does give them a lot of creative freedom if they're willing to do it themselves. Year One was hell, but that's growing pains.

    • @Tunkkis
      @Tunkkis Рік тому +9

      ​@@grrman Y'all relate? What's wrong with you?

    • @Interrobang212
      @Interrobang212 Рік тому +28

      ​@@Tunkkis Quite a lot. That's why we're here😂

    • @Tunkkis
      @Tunkkis Рік тому +6

      @@Interrobang212 I must be the of one out, then. I just like being an observer to the cute girls.

  • @EclipsaMyrtenaster
    @EclipsaMyrtenaster Рік тому +158

    I love how she peeks over her tablet like how someone would do it irl. It’s a somewhat small detail but a cute one

  • @Xhomer367
    @Xhomer367 Рік тому +129

    People really look at pippa’s’s numbers because they are just objectively bigger than the other talents, but I think people need to sit back and realize that shiina and other talents is pulling an average of like 1.5 to 2K people as well.
    Phase is gearing up to be a main company in vtubing in the west. So proud of these girls and finding phase has been a blessing.

  • @rafresendenrafresenden.1644
    @rafresendenrafresenden.1644 Рік тому +59

    Shinna letting her bias slip. She really likes Pippa. Crazy Fangirl.

  • @castform57
    @castform57 Рік тому +60

    Shiina "tried" to be clean. I always love when she lets go, like on the classic doujin tag tier list.

  • @pavelcastillo9513
    @pavelcastillo9513 Рік тому +22

    "Cancel culture who?" "It doesn't existed if you don't look at it"
    So based

  • @Liquid-XIII
    @Liquid-XIII Рік тому +43

    I think of how this happened from time to time, and I'd chalk it up to a couple of factors
    1: Talent freedom - Within reason, the girls can stream whatever interests them with little to no worry of repercussions
    2: Authenticity of self - The girls don't really have a sanitized persona they play up. What you see is what you get, and audiences typically fall in with a streamer they can relate to that's also true to themselves
    3: Staff - This wasn't always the case, but it seems like staff is pretty confident with everything business-oriented, having done this for two going on three years

  • @rancidiot
    @rancidiot Рік тому +59

    Sakana has grown too. He is become a big feeesh. He is also quite smort

  • @tomaszprzyby784
    @tomaszprzyby784 Рік тому +85

    Pippa was always based but at first i was sceptical 'bout menhera company and fishman but it turned out to be great, i still think that lemon is underrated.

  • @ugib8377
    @ugib8377 Рік тому +119

    I absolutely adore Meemaw. The comfy winter coat, the tiny spectacles, her peeking up from behind her drawing tablet. Probably my favorite Vtuber. I'm not much for sitting through a live stream, but I try to be there for the first 15 minutes when she does start streaming, give the thumbs up, and check out highlights/VODs later.

    • @FirelineClips
      @FirelineClips  Рік тому +18

      I know what you mean - Meemaw always has such a cozy vibe, it's great.

  • @RadStorm4988
    @RadStorm4988 Рік тому +39

    Loving how the audio sounds muffled whwn her head is behind the tablet

    • @Tunkkis
      @Tunkkis Рік тому +9

      * I move away from the mic to draw *

  • @coldman373
    @coldman373 Рік тому +37

    Man is churning out clips like butter

    • @FirelineClips
      @FirelineClips  Рік тому +19

      "Just a few minutes until clipping ends."
      "What happens then?"
      "That's when clipping begins."

  • @Vulkans
    @Vulkans Рік тому +31

    It certainly does help when a company does its own thing instead of just trying to emulate what previously established successful companies are doing, the former nets you success and the latter dooms you to failure, not just in the Vtuber space but in business in general.

  • @acoachinlunacy9815
    @acoachinlunacy9815 Рік тому +231

    Is the Fishman actually slowly fixing them? Is the madman actually doing it?

    • @729060
      @729060 Рік тому +65

      They'll all be mega idols yet.

    • @Sleepystumparknights
      @Sleepystumparknights Рік тому +67

      If Pippa’s growth to somewhat functional human being that no longer lives in mold is anything to go by.

    • @braveagentg
      @braveagentg Рік тому +13

      Maybe I should apply as a talent too 😅

  • @YaBoiDingus
    @YaBoiDingus Рік тому +49

    Something I've noticed is the western market disires fewer idols to be put on pedestals and just wants more relatable personalities. That includes management and leadership. Hence, "Yagoo is best girl" and "Fishman hate".

    • @Sleepystumparknights
      @Sleepystumparknights Рік тому +13

      Now if only our resident yacht club member could learn about that.

    • @guydunn8259
      @guydunn8259 Рік тому +8

      😂😂😂 2%

    • @ChronicallyUnlucky
      @ChronicallyUnlucky Місяць тому

      Literally why Pippa is my KamiOshi (among a plethora of other reasons)

  • @ksdpmxfpts9252
    @ksdpmxfpts9252 Рік тому +16

    "Cancel culture doesnt exist if you dont look at it"

  • @Stedman75
    @Stedman75 Рік тому +12

    FISHMAN... GOOOOD

  • @TheAHuman
    @TheAHuman Рік тому +346

    What Phase does right is understand that Hololive isn’t the template for the West. People don’t want idols here, we want cute anime girls acting like normal people/streamers

    • @MemeGene6969
      @MemeGene6969 Рік тому +67

      Normal?
      No but seriously, i agree XD

    • @yawarapuyurak3271
      @yawarapuyurak3271 Рік тому +51

      yeah, I agree. Even in the spanish speaking sphere, we like idols but we see it as an 'act'. It's cute, wholesome, etc, but we still expect the person behind it to have their won personal life outside of her 'act'.
      Ffs, we have altars for our oshi, praying that they find love and get married!

    • @gameguy301
      @gameguy301 Рік тому +13

      “Normal”

    • @devildolphin2102
      @devildolphin2102 Рік тому +25

      I think you mean “Internet/Gamer Normal”

    • @_Ekaros
      @_Ekaros Рік тому

      I don't think it's normal people. Deranged lunatics in case of many phase girls, but still no need to be idol you can also be entertaining nut job...

  • @RaidenRkD
    @RaidenRkD Рік тому +71

    When I fell into the rabbit hole over a year ago, I had my reservations about the English side of things because it was too apparent that some were putting up an act to protect the company's image and were being held back by it, were trying way too hard to be edgy, or just used Vtubing as a platform for their annoying activism.
    As much as I enjoy Hololive, Phase has really been growing on me lately. It feels like the girls have their own (sometimes twisted) idea of what's seiso and try to maintain it, but whenever they break free of it, it has that "everything just went wrong" feel and it's more hilarious than anything. And even though Pippa gets unhinged, you know that's just who she is and she's got her wholesome moments, too. I think what's great about all of them is that their content feels like their own and not mandated by corpo, and you can tell they love what they're doing. They're not afraid to speak their minds but don't overdo it either, and if they do it's usually by accident because some of them never go outside. 😅

    • @FirelineClips
      @FirelineClips  Рік тому +30

      I can definitely relate, I'll be honest it took me a long time to give Phase a chance because I was so turned off by other EN VTubers I'd seen. I think one of the most impressive things about Phase is that the girls have been able to carve out their own niches, while still maintaining that feeling of "Phase unity." The benefits of a corpo, but without a lot of the baggage that many others come along with.

    • @Sleepystumparknights
      @Sleepystumparknights Рік тому +9

      @@FirelineClipsThe lack of constant drama and controversy/threat of graduation helps: Niji cough Vshoujo

  • @atheon-
    @atheon- Рік тому +22

    the way that she raises up and goes back down instantly is so fucking funny for some reason

  • @chenkam2954
    @chenkam2954 Рік тому +34

    "Understand western market"
    Proceed to sell vtuber coffee. Fishman got carried by the staffs and the mental ill

    • @prajnadeva
      @prajnadeva 9 місяців тому +1

      You know what? I am not interested in buying merchandise. 1. They are overpriced. 2. The shipping cost. 3. They usually are useless things that you can do without in your life.
      But coffee. 1. They can be consumed. 2. They usually have very long shelf life.
      So I am very interested actually. The barrier now is just the actual coffee grinding knowledge and shipping cost.

  • @TrojanSalesmen1
    @TrojanSalesmen1 Рік тому +13

    Phase connect as a WHOLE is a GREAAT company. But Airi is best fight me LOL

    • @Sleepystumparknights
      @Sleepystumparknights Рік тому +4

      Behind the Walmart don’t ask why Walmart specifically
      -A Capipilist and proud defender of my home country

  • @dtzyYT
    @dtzyYT Рік тому +19

    Considering how egregious UA-cam ToS already is, putting more layers of censors on streamers just suck for everyone.

  • @kelvinw.1384
    @kelvinw.1384 Рік тому +11

    I have about 6 memberships and out of that 4 are Phase. Shiina, Panko, Tenma and Uraka. (Biboo, Punkalopi). I really like Vtubers that are really good with Chat and just generally shy a bit away from the fake personality. PC i have found to be the most down to earth unhinged streamers. PC still a bit small and im proud its growing. Poor fishman though getting yelled at alot. But the girls here our generally friends.

    • @Sleepystumparknights
      @Sleepystumparknights Рік тому +1

      For me it’s Pippa Tenma and Lia in that order (I don’t have memberships though costs$)

  • @Senbonzakura187
    @Senbonzakura187 Рік тому +12

    I was in love in phase when i watch airi chan debut she cute and like a pon dog when her first debut and i watch all the clips of tenma raging and pippa being pippa that what got me into phase connect i gonna say it fun on phase like everything is normal like a normal UA-camr than a standard vtuber company

  • @RealJokerx7
    @RealJokerx7 Рік тому +28

    I don't think fishman understands the Western market. He wanted 100% seiso, sane idols in an extremely corporate company. Yet he got unseiso, mentally unstable streamers in one of the companies that feels the least corpo of them all. (Except for too many meetings, but fans don't see that) This is exactly what the Western market wants, but it's not due to fishman's understanding of the market, but mostly due to fishman being bad at getting what he wants.

    • @DeviousHands
      @DeviousHands Рік тому +21

      As a businessman, of course fishman wants seiso idols that cause 0 trouble and respect him tremendously. These are not brand risks, they're safe assets that will never suddenly crater.
      As a businessman, Sakana is extraordinarily lucky to have no seiso idols. Phase would be a 7CCV corp at most. And for God's sakes, he picked the streamers, he knew what he was getting into :p

    • @darksaiyan2006
      @darksaiyan2006 Рік тому +23

      Pippa and Shiina both were talents that fishman was advised against hiring, and yet he did it anyway. He might not know exactly what the western market wants, but he does seem to let his talents find out.

    • @RaidenRkD
      @RaidenRkD Рік тому +18

      I still think it's hilarious that he really wanted a Marine for his company and was hoping Airi would fit the role, and as we all know he ended up with his Miko instead (not a dig, Miko's wonderful, just really PON). Even though he found her annoying, he still hired her knowing people would love her. He hates her tangents, bluntness and game choices and yet that's what her fans love about her.

    • @TheSniperFox
      @TheSniperFox 11 місяців тому +1

      Sounded like the konosuba complex

    • @StellaEFZ
      @StellaEFZ 9 місяців тому +2

      Fishman knew very well what he was doing and he still does

  • @RipplePink
    @RipplePink Рік тому +9

    I'm surprised how much your guys cctv has gone up

    • @Sleepystumparknights
      @Sleepystumparknights Рік тому

      CCTV?

    • @NAzo.
      @NAzo. Рік тому

      @@SleepystumparknightsI think he means CCV and in terms of Phase Connect's live viewership and I agree with it too. I lurk when Shiina, Airi, Rie, Panko are on maybe comment a bit for months seeing the numbers grow a little then gen 3 comes and numbers are hella higher at the moment.. I think it's great tho. I just hope the JP talents don't get left behind.

  • @androtaz2621
    @androtaz2621 Рік тому +6

    Fishman did good.

  • @hohohoupufuru
    @hohohoupufuru Рік тому +46

    My tl;dr opinion: hololive (en) too sterile, niji (en) too toxic
    phase genuine and fun, yabs perfectly balanced

    • @obake6290
      @obake6290 Рік тому +6

      Pretty much this.
      HoloEN has been boring since it's founding until Gen 3. I do like some of them.
      Some of the niji en members are good. The first couple waves plus Maria for example. But for the most part it went off the deep end with Luxiem and after.

    • @erroredhacker
      @erroredhacker Рік тому +9

      nijiEN ended with Iluna, my opinion is very based and objectively correct and i will not be taking further questions thank you

    • @Sleepystumparknights
      @Sleepystumparknights Рік тому

      @@obake6290I’ve completely lost interest in Hololive over the years, I liked Gura and Calli, but then Gura stopped being around and I’ve long given up meanwhile Calli, I lost interest in a while ago.
      Biboo and FuwaMoco clips are the only reason I watch anything but Phase and Neurosama nowadays, Vtuber wise.

    • @Sleepystumparknights
      @Sleepystumparknights Рік тому

      ⁠@@erroredhackerNijiEn ended with Luxuem for me, don’t @ me about it losers, I don’t care what people think.

  • @TheJum
    @TheJum Рік тому +54

    I would like a couple more JP girls, honestly. Nasa and Michiru are a little stranded.

    • @zamfy7141
      @zamfy7141 Рік тому +31

      You forgot Iori, poor deer

    • @TheJum
      @TheJum Рік тому +18

      @@zamfy7141 Iori can at least speak English well

    • @ForumBlackwolfdave
      @ForumBlackwolfdave Рік тому +19

      I haven't checked but I heard airi leaked that there's 2 jp girls in the basement

    • @TheRommel
      @TheRommel Рік тому +17

      Man...I wish the JPs got more love but damned the JP market, it's super saturated.

    • @Duamerthrax
      @Duamerthrax Рік тому +10

      @@ForumBlackwolfdave That confused me. I was expecting them in Gen 3. They could use some more JP or multilingual streamers for some JP streams. Getting a few more would help with overall visibility.

  • @JiyuKishiParn
    @JiyuKishiParn 11 місяців тому

    Heck, I recall when I first started watching Peebba she was hovering around 25 ccv. Phase has come a long way.

  • @zenith2930
    @zenith2930 Рік тому +1

    The interactions of the girls mirrors the west very well

  • @NecroCh
    @NecroCh 10 місяців тому +1

    as long as fishman doesn't debut a male gen it's all good

  • @araarashinigami
    @araarashinigami Рік тому +15

    It's not so much that Phase understands what they can say to the Western market, but rather that they give no fucks (and neither does Sakana apparently) and so now people just expect it as the norm for Phase now. NijiEN and VShoujo talents would get lynched on Xitter if they tried to say half the things Phase talents have said. It's a matter of expectations.

  • @mindeatinghat
    @mindeatinghat 11 місяців тому +1

    I miss Panko 😢

  • @Vedues
    @Vedues Рік тому +27

    When I first heard about vtubers, I looked up some clips to see what they were like.
    I found Shylily and her circle of friends first. Their stuff was a little too sexual for my tastes, and it just felt forced. I shrugged and moved on.
    Later, I heard Hololive was supposed to be the biggest and best in the scene. I watched some clips, but it all felt a little too sanitized and artificial, like a mascot at Disneyland who is contractually obligated to be happy all the time. I shrugged and moved on again.
    Then I heard about a relatively small, pink-rabbit vtuber flipping off all of Twitter over the Hogwarts Legacy drama. Pippa and the other Phase girls all feel so unique, genuine, and fun that I couldn't help but stick around and cheer them on. My only regret is that I didn't find them sooner.

    • @Sleepystumparknights
      @Sleepystumparknights Рік тому +3

      Bro same Holofan for 3+ years

    • @sumansaha295
      @sumansaha295 23 дні тому

      I have always found ENVtubers to be too cringe and forced. I liked veibae but don't open twitch that much. Glad I found phase connect.
      They're like VSPO of EN, well vspo is definitely not a menhera org, but their interactions also feel very natural and genuine.

  • @Sakura_Matou
    @Sakura_Matou 11 місяців тому +7

    As strange as this may sound and being new to Phase living in Japan myself, I prefer Phase over Hololive. I really only watch Sakura Miko there who I am still a fan of and not decided who my phase main will be, but I love how Phase seems less scripted. No offense to the girls at Hololive but most things seem sanitised and scripted except for Miko and I really do not like Idol Culture, strange I know. I do not know much about The Holo EN girls though. Sorry about my English but I hope this makes sense?

  • @groerhahn225
    @groerhahn225 Рік тому +38

    I think Phase Connect has massively benefitted from the decline of both Nijisanji and Hololive. Nijisanji's decline is obvious, treating your talets like crap and having half a dozen of them be terminated for bollocks reasons or graduate and resurface happier than ever somewhere else will just have some epople not want to support you anymore. On the other hand, Hololive also had a few incidents that lowered people's opinion about them, but it's mostly that the rapid commercialization appaled people (that's at least why I rarely watch Hololive talents nowadays). It's simply not the casual streamer experience anymore, too often are you reminded of the fact that they are "Virtual Idols". I'm not in for that. I want the freedom and chaos of streamers as much as I want the specific humor and nerdiness you have with Vtubers. Phase Connect does everything right in that regard. Sakana loves Vtubing, not money, and that's very apparent in how he runs the agency.

    • @rafresendenrafresenden.1644
      @rafresendenrafresenden.1644 Рік тому +11

      Decline?????? Are you crazy?

    • @sneed7555
      @sneed7555 Рік тому +19

      I dont think hololive is in a decline my guy. Niji as a company yes, very much so many graduations from there as of late. Hololive just has that more hardcore idol culture embedded in it then anywhere else in the vtubing scene and phase is cool as one the more companies about being open to transparency. Phase is just a cool company overall, every where you go there's gonna be pros n cons but phase is just one of cool ones in my opinion.

    • @CallMeG99
      @CallMeG99 Рік тому +3

      I wouldn't say that Hololive is having a decline, in fact the opposite, and precisely is that why I quit watching Hololive 2 years ago. The overgrown that each member get is insane to the point that is normal to see people wondering if they are good or not streamer and if the subs is only because of the brand name, because of this you ended up having a lot of discussion that leads to nothing.
      For me the other big problem with Hololive (and basically why I just cut watching them) is the fanbase, sorry if I offend someone but they are the worse in the Vtuber community, you can't have a opinion about a talent if it isn't something good, you can't say "I didn't like this or that from the stream" without having messages every second, not only that but even between them you see them fight for which member is better or who to watch to the point they are the ones harassing the members or others viewers (example is when Gura fans harassed Iofi or when same fans spammed on Moona chat to watch Gura instead during a Skyrim stream). So yeah, and for me the difference of fanbase was insane when I started watching Phase Connect as well others small corpo Vtubers and indies, it's more relaxing and it's been already a year since I got into PC so can't say it's because I just joined

    • @ugib8377
      @ugib8377 Рік тому +9

      Best hololive was Gura. And she barely streams anymore.
      Their corpo rules def. Do interfere with some content that would have otherwise flowed naturally. Seen a few instances where the gals catch themselves before saying something, and opt not to.
      Phase best Agency hands down. Little to no filter. CEO that gets tormented by his talents. Well balanced mix of unhinged/cute/realism. Good spread of content, from karaoke/visual + audio arts/games of all genres/and some pretty good just chat content as well.

    • @groerhahn225
      @groerhahn225 Рік тому +2

      @@CallMeG99 I agree with your sentiments about the community. Hololive is the only fanbase that is parasocial for the company and will defend it against every accusation. It reminds me of Nintendo in a way. It's extremely frustrating at times.

  • @anirecorder2555
    @anirecorder2555 9 місяців тому

    Fishman just said
    I'll make a vtuber company and just let it rip give the talent the freedom that they want (Aside from Airi) 😂 whatever happens happens 😂

  • @RTM_random
    @RTM_random Рік тому +1

    👍

  • @thevictoryoverhimself7298
    @thevictoryoverhimself7298 Рік тому +22

    Phase connect really is starting to dominate the western vtuber market. So many of the hololive EN talents (undoubtedly the eternal GOAT's) are burnt out, overworked and on the verge of graduation. Nijisanji is an international joke and Vshojo is basically Spongebob squarepants, not Gundam wing. Phase connect hits some kind of sweet spot for western vtuber fans that really has the right vibe. I find myself watching them more and more.
    I just wish they would all stop using twitch fuck twitch stop trying to make twitch and twitch replacements a thing. Stream on youtube damn it.

    • @FirelineClips
      @FirelineClips  Рік тому +11

      100%. And I agree, words cannot describe how much I hate Twitch - it's such an awful platform. UA-cam has flaws, but at least it actually works most of the time.

    • @Sleepystumparknights
      @Sleepystumparknights Рік тому

      Rip Gura as a former humbug I still kinda miss her. Also yeah HoloEN are on break frequently, I mean Shiori took a week off shortly after joining. Kiara almost graduated this year etc.

    • @SubliminaIMessages
      @SubliminaIMessages Рік тому +7

      Facts Hololive EN overworked itself and would’ve been in a hell of a lot of trouble if Advent didn’t debut

    • @guydunn8259
      @guydunn8259 Рік тому +4

      True felt with Gura just exiting out

    • @dylannix4289
      @dylannix4289 11 місяців тому

      @@FirelineClips Not sure if this is just me. But don’t forget about the 8x20sec unskippable ads. Seeing that shit really made me appreciate UA-cam’s double ad maximum