@@lppoqqlmost probably. He's now the only so-called "engineer"/CPU architect CEO who has now released oxidising and degrading CPUs for two generations in a row...and still got a pay rise for his performance. Intel is clearly now the company where talent and brain cells go to die, whilst incompetence is rewarded handsomely.
Coming to this video right after Pat got forced out makes this comment appear especially sad. I hope Pat has a nice retirement, and at least some of his vision can come to fruition.
Wouldn't be that crazy if a competitor buys a stake in Intel. If their market cap shrinks even further, someone might even take over the whole company. Investors could push towards that direction
The many years of overcharging and price gouging customers when it comes to X86 and lack of innovation is coming back to haunt them. Let the free market play out and lets not do corporate welfare, since people supposedly hate welfare for actual human beings. AMD and Nvidia fought hard for years and now is there time.
I just came to this video after Pat got forced out in order to learn more about what his specific plan was. Setting aside the details, he seems like an alright guy and I hope Intel can make it.
This guy inherited a sinking USS Gerald R. Ford and is trying everything to keep it afloat. I still believe Intel WON'T become the next IBM and they'll be back in the game by 2026 and highly profitable around 2030. But yeah it's a 10 year play for Pat.
Clownslinger needs to go ASAP. He really had the nerve to claim in this interview that AI models should be run on his degrading, power-guzzling and oxidising Xeons -- when AMD are offering cheaper, more competitive and reliable CPUs with twice the performance per watt and more cores. Fire him -- preferably out of a cannon, ASAP...and leave him in the "rearview mirror", before the entirety of Intel goes bankrupt.
Here's Intel's AI story. 1. They have Lunar Lake AI PCs with NPUs and integrated GPUs that combined are 120 TOPS of int8 processing for MSFT's Copilot+ software. 2. They launched Arrow Lake PCs with NPUs and a 16 w PCIE5 GPU interface to support desktop workstation AI processing. 3. They launched 128 core Granite Rapids CPUs, with each core containing AMX tiled matrix accelerators and tripled memory bandwidth to 12 channels at up to 8800MT/sec MRDIMM. 4. They have just launched Gaudi 3 AI accelerators that double the Ethernet IO performance vs Gaudi 2 and quadrupled the BF16 AI processing capability. There are servers available for sale and for evaluation.
Intel and TSMC now compete for fabless company's business. It makes no sense for TSMC to continue to give Intel that benefit if they eventually compete. If anything, this is just a marketing ploy to make Pat look like he made a mistake.
What blunder ? That discount was in TSMC's best interest otherwise they wouldn't have given it to begin with. It would convince intel to outsource manufacturing and eventually they would just go fabless, leaving TSMC as the sole source. People tend to think corporations/businesses are human and have feelings and compassion. They only have business interests and do what furthers their interest. In fact, its a good thing that this happened because there can be a competitive marketplace again.
What Blunder? Intel has no choice, and has to ask for TSMC's 3nm. Withdrawal of discounts given to Intel can let TSMC earn more money. Basic common sense and Basic business rule. Besides, even if Intel didn't put order to TSMC, there are so many customers, queuing in line, waiting for its 3nm production capacity, including AMD, intel's biggest competitor in the CPU market. So what choice Intel has when there is no discount for them? Plus, TSMC could say this to reject Intel but TSMC didn't..... "We understand Intel has concern about Taiwan's instability, So we don't want to cause Intel's trouble. Intel is a great company, has countless talented, smart people., has the most advanced technology. We believe Intel can make its own chips in USA, where it is very 'stable', without worrying Taiwan is very 'unstable' "
10:10 good question. I am still curious about how Intel plans to do this? All the potential customers are Intel's competitors. Like Nvidia, they are building up a team with MediaTek, to design AI PC... Obviously Nvidia would like to share the X86 CPU market with ARM base. Therefore why should Nvidia choose Intel to manufacture the chips? Not to mention Qualcomm. These "potential customers" are happy to share Intel's cake in the traditional CPU market. Intel's 18A? come on, when there is a better choice, why should the customers consider Intel?
To Predict that Intel unable to pass through TSMC and Samsung in the next years. Secondly Foundry services is only good for US security, but TSMC factory has alreadyg has located in US now. Intel should use well most of resource on familiar AI (CPU/GPU/NPU) chip design and new platform development . Regarding to foundry service, Intel does not have enough senior engineering teams whose working hour more than 90 each week are aggressive for foundry manufacture process and deign optimization.
If Intel achieves hvm of Panther Lake on the 18A next year, Intel will reclaim node leadership. As of August this year, the D0 defect ratio was already well below 0.4, and both Panther Lake and Clearwater Forest have successfully booted Windows in the lab, so there should be no major setbacks for their hvm as scheduled next year.
The Taiwanese government just announced TSMC will only be allowed to have the most advanced node in Taiwan. Intel is so far behind that TSMCs second best on US soil is still better than what Intel offers though.
TSMC is not going to bring their best stuff to be made in USA or anywhere else but Taiwan. The Americans and Europeans don't have anyone else to consider except Intel. Senior engineers are just hype. Most of them are ready to retire. The key is just one breakthrough and the rest is easy- engineers will come.
If anyone who can do it then it has to be someone with technical like Pat. Let's hope Pat will be like Vicki Hollub of Occidental Petroleum. And why is Buffet holding so much cash and not financing Intel:
Intel-3 finFET node is cranking out Xeons. Intel-18A node is back in the lab, and going into production this quarter. It brings backside power delivery that enables 2 node shrinks of transistor density improvement. Intel leads with this technology.
It’s easy to say build AI chips but they can’t afford to invest there in anyway to be competitive with NVIDIA. Foundry is really what they need to get right. Pat seems to be doing great with the situation he has and I hope he can fix the company before the ship sinks.
@@MegaJuniorJones with open source, u can't copy shit... but proprietary u can copy and steal some shit without the other party knowing anything. Remember why ZLUDA got cancelled...
why does he look dejected in the thumbnail 😂
to make you click
me too lol
Have you seen Nvidia's stock price lately?
Rejected because he didn't make 1 mil per month 😢
@@zupinu2000 Nah it's just his face 😂 Bloomberg doesn't put that much thought into their thumbnails
Keep going Pat, Intel need to fly high again and all hopes are on your leadership.
Let Intel heal from all the scars left by past leaderships.
Wait, was he the guy who screwed up floating point calculations back in the day???
@@lppoqqlmost probably. He's now the only so-called "engineer"/CPU architect CEO who has now released oxidising and degrading CPUs for two generations in a row...and still got a pay rise for his performance. Intel is clearly now the company where talent and brain cells go to die, whilst incompetence is rewarded handsomely.
@@ma-af3753 Yeah I feel the same, any laptop or PC impacted by these CPUs should receive a replacement.
Intel is the disgusting genocide chip
Coming to this video right after Pat got forced out makes this comment appear especially sad. I hope Pat has a nice retirement, and at least some of his vision can come to fruition.
Hey, Bloomberg, put some talents to the tech reporting team, please!
pat is going to pull this off. god bless america.
This is a disgusting genocide chip.
_Narrator's voice:_
*He didn't*
@ lol
@@Mateus01234lmao
Professionals don't believe Bloomberg's reports on acquisition rumours about Intel 😂
Wouldn't be that crazy if a competitor buys a stake in Intel. If their market cap shrinks even further, someone might even take over the whole company. Investors could push towards that direction
Intel is overheating, unreliable, hardware as spyware garbage.
I clicked because of the thumbnail. I wanted to check if Pat is feeling okay. Hang in there Pat! Intel Lunar Lake has been so amazing for me!
Good Job Pat !
The many years of overcharging and price gouging customers when it comes to X86 and lack of innovation is coming back to haunt them. Let the free market play out and lets not do corporate welfare, since people supposedly hate welfare for actual human beings. AMD and Nvidia fought hard for years and now is there time.
I just came to this video after Pat got forced out in order to learn more about what his specific plan was. Setting aside the details, he seems like an alright guy and I hope Intel can make it.
Vibing to Bloomberg Tech Intro💃
Thank you 👍
This guy inherited a sinking USS Gerald R. Ford and is trying everything to keep it afloat. I still believe Intel WON'T become the next IBM and they'll be back in the game by 2026 and highly profitable around 2030. But yeah it's a 10 year play for Pat.
Intel will struggle in foundry
Still a big fan of Pat. I think he'll make good progress next year.
Falcon Shores will be much bigger than Gaudi 3 in 2025, since it's a GPU and a more familiar architecture for training
Clownslinger needs to go ASAP. He really had the nerve to claim in this interview that AI models should be run on his degrading, power-guzzling and oxidising Xeons -- when AMD are offering cheaper, more competitive and reliable CPUs with twice the performance per watt and more cores. Fire him -- preferably out of a cannon, ASAP...and leave him in the "rearview mirror", before the entirety of Intel goes bankrupt.
This had me shittin my drawls ngl
that thumbnail sums it up
Lose 16 billion like boss 😎
step down now
Pat looks like he hasn't shat in days.
Here's Intel's AI story.
1. They have Lunar Lake AI PCs with NPUs and integrated GPUs that combined are 120 TOPS of int8 processing for MSFT's Copilot+ software.
2. They launched Arrow Lake PCs with NPUs and a 16 w PCIE5 GPU interface to support desktop workstation AI processing.
3. They launched 128 core Granite Rapids CPUs, with each core containing AMX tiled matrix accelerators and tripled memory bandwidth to 12 channels at up to 8800MT/sec MRDIMM.
4. They have just launched Gaudi 3 AI accelerators that double the Ethernet IO performance vs Gaudi 2 and quadrupled the BF16 AI processing capability. There are servers available for sale and for evaluation.
No one wanna talk about the TSMC blunder? No? Okay
Intel and TSMC now compete for fabless company's business. It makes no sense for TSMC to continue to give Intel that benefit if they eventually compete. If anything, this is just a marketing ploy to make Pat look like he made a mistake.
What blunder ? That discount was in TSMC's best interest otherwise they wouldn't have given it to begin with. It would convince intel to outsource manufacturing and eventually they would just go fabless, leaving TSMC as the sole source. People tend to think corporations/businesses are human and have feelings and compassion. They only have business interests and do what furthers their interest. In fact, its a good thing that this happened because there can be a competitive marketplace again.
The U.S. is overtaken by the Taiwanese cartel. no one speaks about the harms of TSMC's monopoly and excessive reliance on it.
What Blunder? Intel has no choice, and has to ask for TSMC's 3nm.
Withdrawal of discounts given to Intel can let TSMC earn more money. Basic common sense and Basic business rule.
Besides, even if Intel didn't put order to TSMC, there are so many customers, queuing in line, waiting for its 3nm production capacity, including AMD, intel's biggest competitor in the CPU market.
So what choice Intel has when there is no discount for them?
Plus, TSMC could say this to reject Intel but TSMC didn't.....
"We understand Intel has concern about Taiwan's instability, So we don't want to cause Intel's trouble. Intel is a great company, has countless talented, smart people., has the most advanced technology. We believe Intel can make its own chips in USA, where it is very 'stable', without worrying Taiwan is very 'unstable' "
good intel👍
10:10 good question. I am still curious about how Intel plans to do this? All the potential customers are Intel's competitors. Like Nvidia, they are building up a team with MediaTek, to design AI PC... Obviously Nvidia would like to share the X86 CPU market with ARM base.
Therefore why should Nvidia choose Intel to manufacture the chips?
Not to mention Qualcomm.
These "potential customers" are happy to share Intel's cake in the traditional CPU market.
Intel's 18A? come on, when there is a better choice, why should the customers consider Intel?
Raptor Lake has been good for me
focus on your analyst. focus on the analyst.
I wish I could invest frictionless
To Predict that Intel unable to pass through TSMC and Samsung in the next years.
Secondly Foundry services is only good for US security, but TSMC factory has alreadyg has located in US now.
Intel should use well most of resource on familiar AI (CPU/GPU/NPU) chip design and new platform development .
Regarding to foundry service,
Intel does not have enough senior engineering teams whose working hour more than 90 each week are aggressive for foundry manufacture process and deign optimization.
Agreed
If Intel achieves hvm of Panther Lake on the 18A next year, Intel will reclaim node leadership. As of August this year, the D0 defect ratio was already well below 0.4, and both Panther Lake and Clearwater Forest have successfully booted Windows in the lab, so there should be no major setbacks for their hvm as scheduled next year.
The Taiwanese government just announced TSMC will only be allowed to have the most advanced node in Taiwan.
Intel is so far behind that TSMCs second best on US soil is still better than what Intel offers though.
TSMC is not going to bring their best stuff to be made in USA or anywhere else but Taiwan. The Americans and Europeans don't have anyone else to consider except Intel. Senior engineers are just hype. Most of them are ready to retire. The key is just one breakthrough and the rest is easy- engineers will come.
@ Do you think one Asian engineer （ with M.S or doctor degree ）has16 work hours a day , even he is young.
THE MAN; THE MYTH; THE DESTROYER
Intel has been catching hell.....CEO looks stressed out. Might be time to step down.
What is this windows refresh he is talking about?
He bs as usual and he will eat his words again in a short while.
God, the CEO of intel looks like his life is a literal hell. I really hope they turn things around at intel.
That's a man who doesn't get much sleep.
Software has always been challenging for Intel. They should leave it to Microsoft and the open source community.
That’s a big compromise
If anyone who can do it then it has to be someone with technical like Pat. Let's hope Pat will be like Vicki Hollub of Occidental Petroleum. And why is Buffet holding so much cash and not financing Intel:
he looked so sad in the thumbnail i thought he was gonna announce the company's death or something
Intel is getting smacked in all categories, kinda makes me sad 😢
Microchip wars are on
Need to move to Cubic Boron Nitride or Aluminium Gallium Nitride wafer instead of silicon for 18A and smaller nodes (Leakage current)
wtf this man doing as Intel CEO except milking 50+mil$ yearly on salary and they are so non competitive to AMD now
0:35
Oof, Pat looks like he caught his wife with the neighbour's dog... It's gonna be a rough couple of quarters
omg! it's a spooky skeleton. don't let him grab you with his bony arms! oh, it's just Pat. carry on.
Poor old geezer needed to retire because look how tired he looked.
Doom and gloom 😢
This interview didn't age well🤣😂🤣
No one cares anymore about Intel. Super expensive products with disappointing performance. Also a lot of issues. Just no.
sadly pat, no bible quote can save you this time..lol
I disagree.
looks like intel is going to continue to be crap. their poor ai cousin will not help and nobody wants their x86 crap either.
Company announces major layoff and then goes up.... should be criminal😂
If the company gets smaller people have to leave. You got no idea, if they dont do this maybe all of them wont have a job soon.
Intel has lost out in node process. Data center don't want cpu
That's wrong GPUs are power hungry. Not every one can afford that
@@nskchaitanya2671True. GPUs are power hungry. But most big players use GPUs. That's the reason Intel is losing its base on datacenters.
@@heekyujaydenkang7270 Not really. GPUs work independently most of the part in AI based accelerators. The area which Intel is losing in.
@@boggarapulokesh3224Data center is not all for Ai.
Intel-3 finFET node is cranking out Xeons. Intel-18A node is back in the lab, and going into production this quarter. It brings backside power delivery that enables 2 node shrinks of transistor density improvement. Intel leads with this technology.
You can do it. Aim to stars. We need your next gen cpus and GPUs to fell words is moving ahead. I mean proper namufactured by you.
😇
“i invested 30B in usa”
brother, i have more intel shares than you do, you invested nothing in USA, intel did
humble up Intel Jesus
Bruh no way you have more Intel shares than Gelsinger, guy literally worked their since the '70's-2009 and then came back
Sit down. Lying gets you nowhere.
Vote for snapdragon x Elite 😂
It got beaten by Intel's Lunar Lake. Wakeup buddy.
It's passé
@@boggarapulokesh3224Sadly Meteor Lake and Arrow Lake are a flop.
When will he shutup? Stop talking grandpa.
i love it when you are talking like that
Shhh. Grandpa is still cooking, let him cook and go play with your roblox.
Tell us what you actually do. LOL.
Did grandpa clap your cheeks?
Lol. Short intel this guy sucks.
Someone needs to fire him ASAP and just hire someone to build AI chips already. Dogshit CPUs for boomers wont cut it anymore.
It’s easy to say build AI chips but they can’t afford to invest there in anyway to be competitive with NVIDIA. Foundry is really what they need to get right. Pat seems to be doing great with the situation he has and I hope he can fix the company before the ship sinks.
@@sarjannarwan6896they could by not going proprietary CUDA like NVDA has
@@MegaJuniorJones with open source, u can't copy shit... but proprietary u can copy and steal some shit without the other party knowing anything.
Remember why ZLUDA got cancelled...
And you're watching this video and typing your comments on an AI chip or a CPU ?
@@juniorjunior8494 On an apple M3 so yes, its pretty much an AI chip