Triple Integrals

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  • Опубліковано 19 жов 2024

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  • @thedoublehelix5661
    @thedoublehelix5661 4 роки тому +27

    I think of triple integrals as the mass of an object where the function you're integrating is the density at different points inside the object instead of as a hyper volume. It just makes more sense to when visualizing what you're doing.

    • @tomatrix7525
      @tomatrix7525 4 роки тому +1

      The Double Helix That’s actually really practical in physics too, very interesting

    • @thedoublehelix5661
      @thedoublehelix5661 4 роки тому +1

      @@tomatrix7525 I got the idea from physics class lol

  • @DarkMonolth
    @DarkMonolth 4 роки тому +7

    Trivial, just count infinitesimal polyhedrons until you get the answer

  • @jan-willemreens9010
    @jan-willemreens9010 2 роки тому

    ...Cher Dr. Peyam, Malgré le fait que je n'ai pas encore beaucoup d'expérience avec les intégrales triples, j'ai pus suivre votre excellente présentation sans aucun problème. Je tiens à vous remercier beaucoup pour cela... Cordialement, Jan-W

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  2 роки тому +1

      Merci ☺️

  • @H0tinNYC
    @H0tinNYC 4 роки тому +4

    Someday I'll be this awesome. That was great work!

  • @SONGOKU-tl3ht
    @SONGOKU-tl3ht 4 роки тому +2

    I love maths as much as you do.

  • @pratikkumar1729
    @pratikkumar1729 4 роки тому +1

    Once again you left me speechless. Amazing video

  • @epicmorphism2240
    @epicmorphism2240 4 роки тому +8

    Next level: nth integral

  • @Handelsbilanzdefizit
    @Handelsbilanzdefizit 4 роки тому +1

    I would interpret this as follows:
    With double Integral, the input or domain of a function f(x,y) ist the 2D-Plane x,y.
    With triple Integral, the domain (input) of the function, is the entire three-dimensional object 'E' --> Result is four-dimensional.
    But to calculate n-dimensional volumes, you can just write ∫ √g dx^n
    where √g = √det(g_ij) = det(A_ij) is the determinant of the matrix 'A', generated by the local base-vectors A = (R_x, R_y, R_z, …, R_n)

  • @georgettebeulah4427
    @georgettebeulah4427 4 роки тому +1

    This make so much sense and can relate this video alot will wish 2 understand more and more

  • @giovannimariotte4993
    @giovannimariotte4993 4 роки тому

    Great !!!! (but im not capable of thinking of the fourth dimension😭

  • @mohammedwajid5481
    @mohammedwajid5481 3 роки тому

    Loads of thanks sir..
    You did save me indeed...
    Well explained. ...

  • @AriosJentu
    @AriosJentu 4 роки тому +2

    I've never think about triple integral is a hypervolume, cuz in my university at math classes we've learned just how to calculate them - get 3d picture, get integrating ranges, and then integrate, without knowing what we wanna to find :D But with double ints we was knowing that we finding a volume :D Thank you :D

    • @RalphDratman
      @RalphDratman 4 роки тому +2

      You don't have to think of an integral as a volume or a hyper volume, etc. In this case the region (or "limits") of integration has a volume that can be calculated easily. Then we have some function which takes on a value at each point in that region. Well, you can just think of the integral as the average of that function over the entire region, multiplied by the volume of the region. Suppose again that the function represents density. Then the average of the density within the region, multiplied by the volume of the region, is pretty obviously the total mass within the region. Conversely, if we have calculated the integral, then the average density equals the total mass in the region divided by the volume.

  • @shayanmoosavi9139
    @shayanmoosavi9139 4 роки тому +1

    I already knew what triple integral was but I watched it anyway. Wasn't disappointed :)
    P.S : I thought about hyper volume before but I prefer to think about mass. It's easier to visualize. Hyper volume isn't wrong though, the mathematics job is to make abstractions in the most general way possible.

  • @kevinshen2793
    @kevinshen2793 4 роки тому

    Thank you very much for this video! It is a nice computation and basic conceptual practice

  • @joanmartinsuarezloaiza2767
    @joanmartinsuarezloaiza2767 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Dr. Peyam, awesome like always, I would like you answer me a question, is it possible to apply the residue theorem to non definite integrals?, I have read books about Complex analysis but I never saw it, do you know where I can get info about it just in case it’s possible.

    • @piscopopasco
      @piscopopasco 4 роки тому +1

      I don't think that it's possible, because the residue theorem says that the line integral over a curve it's equal to the sum of the residues*the winding number of each point you're calculating the residue*2πi, so you have to define the integral over a closed curve in order to use the staments

    • @joanmartinsuarezloaiza2767
      @joanmartinsuarezloaiza2767 4 роки тому

      Piscopopasco junior yes, I think so, but see the next video and you are going to see what I am talking about

    • @joanmartinsuarezloaiza2767
      @joanmartinsuarezloaiza2767 4 роки тому

      This is where I could find it: @ (Spanish video)

    • @joanmartinsuarezloaiza2767
      @joanmartinsuarezloaiza2767 4 роки тому

      @@piscopopasco @

    • @joanmartinsuarezloaiza2767
      @joanmartinsuarezloaiza2767 4 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/TSjXWGpsedY/v-deo.html

  • @stewartcopeland4950
    @stewartcopeland4950 4 роки тому

    another way by directly determining the area of ​​the
    tetrahedron section as a function of z: I = integral from 0 to 4 of 0,5 z(1-z/4)(2-z/2)dz = 4/3

  • @RalphDratman
    @RalphDratman 4 роки тому

    This is excellent! Thank you. (C'est tout à fait apparent)
    And Mathematica also gets 4/3, using the following two lines of code:
    region = ImplicitRegion[(0 = 0), {x, y, z}];
    Integrate[z, Element[{x, y, z}, region]]
    ----> 4/3

  • @anmolempire1197
    @anmolempire1197 4 роки тому +3

    I ones used to calculate Flux

  • @alexander17293
    @alexander17293 4 роки тому

    Nicely done

  • @dgrandlapinblanc
    @dgrandlapinblanc 4 роки тому

    Thanks.

  • @Apollorion
    @Apollorion 4 роки тому

    If x, y and z were *not* orthonormal coordinates, wouldn't this triple integral have been worked out wrong?

    • @RalphDratman
      @RalphDratman 4 роки тому

      I'm sure there is some way to do integrals with non-orthogonal coordinates, but why would you want to? But then again, I'm sure there is a reason why you might want to.

    • @Apollorion
      @Apollorion 4 роки тому

      @@RalphDratman Depending on the function you're integrating, integrating over non-cartesian coordinates might preferable (e.g. polar or cylindrical coordinates). But Dr. Peyam doesn't even mention that he assumes x, y and z together form a cartesian coordinate system, yet I think he should, because if they don't, dx dy and dz need to be variably rescaled due to location depending compression and stretching of the coordinates. I admit one might say that the one who formulated the function to be integrated already (should have?) encapsulated that rescale factor into the function.

  • @kqp1998gyy
    @kqp1998gyy 4 роки тому

    Thank you sir

  • @dm_saj1119
    @dm_saj1119 4 роки тому

    Thx,dr

  • @eliyasne9695
    @eliyasne9695 4 роки тому +1

    How could you define bounds to an integral across a fractal?
    Would it necessarily require the use of a fractal with a dimensionality of one less then that of the original fractal?
    Could i define the bounds of an integral across something with another thing that has a dimensionality greater then one less then that of the original thing?
    (For example bounding an integral along a 2d surface with a box that's 3d)

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  4 роки тому +1

      You would use Hausdorff measure

    • @eliyasne9695
      @eliyasne9695 4 роки тому

      @@drpeyam
      Yes, but how?...
      (I have never tried anything like this before)
      How can you, for example, define an inequality that involves "five and a half" variables?
      That's why i asked the second and third questions. To try to go around this issue.

  • @NattyPi
    @NattyPi 2 роки тому

    Meanwhile you could have just done 1/6 det of the tetrahedron using the intercept coordinates to make a 4x4 matrix in less than 2 minutes.... math is fun and crazy at the same time

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  2 роки тому +1

      Right but how would that illustrate how to calculate triple integrals?

    • @NattyPi
      @NattyPi 2 роки тому

      @@drpeyam oh no i just meant its very interesting to see different methods to solve the same thing lol im currently in multivarable calculus and a seperate linear algebra class and i love to see the overlap and how useful Linear algebra is thats all. Grateful for your videos and rescources

  • @nullplan01
    @nullplan01 4 роки тому

    You keep saying x-y-z-plane. I don't think we have the same definition of "plane", there.

  • @Gamma_Digamma
    @Gamma_Digamma 4 роки тому

    It's just nested loops, these multiple integrals

    • @RalphDratman
      @RalphDratman 4 роки тому

      Right, that description as nested loops makes perfect sense to a programmer like me. Then you just have to understand how to multiply z by dx dy dz. Which I still find difficult to visualize since it is an infinitesimal volume. It is easy enough to compute the approximate result numerically: just set delta x, delta y and delta z to some smallish number delta, then add up the value of z in each cubical volume element with side delta. Then set delta to a smaller number and calculate again. Keep decreasing delta until the sum seems to be approaching a limit. So it's a cinch to get an approximate answer, but to solve the problem as stated we need the exact answer. So formally I guess that would be the triple limit as the deltas all go to zero.

    • @Gamma_Digamma
      @Gamma_Digamma 4 роки тому

      @@RalphDratman and congratulations, you rediscovered the Riemann sum definition of the integral

    • @RalphDratman
      @RalphDratman 4 роки тому

      @@Gamma_Digamma I know the definition. It's just not very intuitive for me. I'm not sure why.

    • @Gamma_Digamma
      @Gamma_Digamma 4 роки тому

      @@RalphDratman sorry I was kidding back there.
      I know, it is very non intuitive initially but I'm sure you get the hang of it gradually

    • @RalphDratman
      @RalphDratman 4 роки тому +1

      @@Gamma_Digamma For me there is nothing "initially" about my difficulty. I've been thinking about these things for decades!
      I think my major problem is that I don't like the dx dy dz "infinitesimal" notation and the ill-defined methods of manipulating them. They obviously work very well for people who enjoy calculus, but I have never been able to get comfortable with them.

  • @egillandersson1780
    @egillandersson1780 4 роки тому

    Coincidence ? The result is the same as the volume of the tetrahedron.

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  4 роки тому +3

      Yeah, that’s a coincidence!

    • @hydra147147
      @hydra147147 4 роки тому +1

      @@drpeyam Using your interpretation as a volume of a 4D simplex with the base being this 3D tetrahedron of volume 4/3 the only thing we have to compute is the height. It will be the biggest distance from the base i.e. the biggest possible value of z which is the same as the z-intercept which is 4 (the foot of the altitude from the 5th vertex of this simpex will be at (0,0,4)). So we just have to apply a formula for a volume of 4D simplex which is 1/4*base*altitude which in this case is the same as the volume of the base because the altitude and 1/4 cancel each other.

    • @tgx3529
      @tgx3529 4 роки тому

      I would never say that the results (triple integral from z and triple integral from 1) will be the same.But it is so.

  • @sunsetflory
    @sunsetflory 4 роки тому +3

    it's sad when you only know how to solve simple integrals :

    • @nullplan01
      @nullplan01 4 роки тому +2

      Solving multiple integrals is just solving multiple simple integrals, one after the other.

    • @shayanmoosavi9139
      @shayanmoosavi9139 4 роки тому

      @@nullplan01 precisely, the only difference is you can have functions in the boundaries.