Is It Worth The Wait? Should you order a Fender Custom Shop?
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Baxter and Jonathan talk about the wait time for Fender Custom Shop and Masterbuilt Guitars. From Vincent Van Trigt to Ron Thorn the team over at the Fender Custom Shop keeps delivering some amazing Stratocaster and Telecasters to the Casino Guitars shop!
Btw-these guys will take the time and talk guitars and what’s right for you even if it’s not a master built. Baxter talked to me for a few days going over a fender that’s coming in sep and we talked through everything. Great shop!!
Lee, thanks a ton and I’m super excited for your piece!!!! Have a super rest of your day and best to you and yours always!
I believe it - they seem pretty cool!
@@CasinoGuitars bro why you ghosting me on instagram, signed brazilian rosewood cookie monster
@@ledzeppelinzoso maybe you're acting cray? Idk, these guys wouldn't unless you're coming off as less than couth.
My Custom Shop guitar took so long to arrive that now it’s a Vintage Guitar.
"To be financially responsible, I need to order Custom Shop right now" Got it! :D
Exactly, finally, someone’s got it!…:)
Found my dream guitar on the used marked, Nocaster 2018 journeyman relic. It is just perfect for me. Loved the Nocasters since I was a teenager and im 28 now. So it was a big day when I finally found it and picked it up. Greetings from Denmark. Love your channel
How sweet was the smell in that case 😎
@@ledzeppelinzoso Best smell ever, I sniffed the case for days man. Fender should make that smell to a parfume. Would buy.
I was at my local guitar shop here in NH back in the 80's and the Fender rep happened to be there .I started to talk too him about my dream strat .He was very interested in what I had too say. Told him I always wanted a 62 style strat in LPB with a rosewood board that fender did not make at this time. He made sure I got what I wanted. I paid 360 bucks brand new with tweed case. My most gigged guitar .And it was American made .Before the custom shop. True story .To this day I will put that guitar up against any custom shop strat out there,
Cool story
American made no longer means good work it means over0aid
Fender Custom Shop guitars are absolutely great guitars. I’m fortunate to have one. One thing I’ve noticed is that many online retailers of Custom Shop guitars ( but not Casino) don’t give the neck thickness dimensions for first and twelfth frets.
I believe that information is crucial. If they don’t give those dimensions, I’d never consider buying as I wouldn’t want to go through the hassle of a return for a neck I couldn’t stand.
Man,I remember buying my first guitar in summer 96-97,Olympic white MiM fender strat for 399$ at Strings & things in Memphis.🤘👍Man,that craft your custom guitar room is gonna be killer!!!
I come for the guitar talk, but I stay to hear Baxter recommend movies.
Tom Petty told me that the waiting is the hardest part.
Really? When I was learning to fly, he told me that coming down is the hardest thing. That Tom sure was a rascal.
Darn that petty:)
He also would've laughed at people waiting months & months, while overpaying in the process.
@@scottbrower9052 I’m sure you’d like to tell us all about it at parties but unfortunately no one invites you.
@@smelltheglove2038 Hurr dee durr. Show me on the doll where I hurt your feewings.
Found and American Professional II similar to a custom shop I was building..... Love it without waiting forever.
Haha... love the the 'glove" reference! 👍 I had a friend order a 5 string Bass from the Fender Custom Shop a few years ago-waited almost 3 years for it. He liked it ...but he didn't love it. I ordered a Macmull Custom guitar and LOVED it the moment I strummed it. And I loved the Custom Shop 70th Anniversary Broadcaster off the rack as well. You never know where your next keeper will come from.
That is also a great story! Sometimes the right one is already built for you:)
In 2018 in a guitar center in Colorado I got a left-handed 1961 CS Fender Stratocaster Heavy Relic used from 2008 for $1,999.99.
Deal of the decade for this guy
In 2018 at Wildwood Guitars in Colorado I got a "repurposed" Gibson Collector's Choice #29 for $3600.
Deal of a lifetime for this guy.
@@Surge_LaChance duuuude that is awesome!!!!!!!
I will make a pilgrimage to Casino Guitars in 2022 to order a Fender Custom Shop just for the promise of the experience of buying a great guitar from you. An experience I’m certain will become one of the fun stories of my life. Great video guys. See you in 22.
Great video guys! I’d love to know more about the different lacquer options, like what’s the difference between nitro and flash coat, and nitro with wls undercoat etc.
I don't have a Custom Shop Fender but I do have one custom shop Charvel and another on order. Placed the new order in April of 2021 and got an estimated lead time of 18 to 24 months. My first Charvel Custom Shop was ordered in 2017 and that one took about 8 months to be finished. Lead times and prices are definitely increasing across all manufacturers. The first one was definitely worth the wait. Best playing guitar I own!
The guys at Casino are great! I emailed a question about a reverb pedal they carry that I can't find in any of my favorite local stores (I'm located in MA) and they responded right away with great info on what the pedal does and does not do as well as some recommendations for other models I had not considered. Shout out to Jonathan for taking the time to respond with detailed info and providing alternative options for the sound I'm looking to get, Great customer service that you just can't get from the big box stores.
Just think...practice for 5 years while you are waiting. When you get yours, you will be a guitar god! Doesnt this long of a wait make used prices go up?
I love my custom shop strat. Best guitar I own. I got the sweet water spec since I like a little flatter fretboard radius. I did not have to wait, just ordered direct from sweet water and I had it 3 days later. This is how I would do it, get a Wildwood, sweet water, or some other spec that was built for a shop rather than a true custom build
I saw a Sweetwater Custom Shop tele relic in daphne blue over pink paisley and wow if I had an excuse to get it… damn.
@@ItsVictoriaG those teles look super sweet. If I didn’t already have an American tele I would be very tempted to get one
I got a Fender custom shop Telecaster from Sweetwater this past April. It took a month to get it. Freaking awesome.
A 5 year wait seems extreme ,..especially when theres lone, private luthiers out there with the talent and time to get you something custom just as unique, special and well made. However,..theres also a proper two word response ,.RESALE VALUE!
Fast forward another set of years or even decades after you bought your Fender Custom Shop and for some reason ( life happens) you HAVE TO SELL,..it will most likely assuredly keep its value if not increase in value.
A well built guitar built by your fav super talented Luthier might be extremely well made but simply will NOT bring in "Big Brand" money on the 2ndery market. SAD BUT TRUE!!
Some good points there!
FWIW A lot of top flight luthiers and boutique builders also tend to have pretty substantial lead times.
Glad to see the budget for special effects was approved! I’m so impatient, I couldn’t wait many months to five years for a guitar. Heck, I about lost my mind waiting six weeks for my Taylor. I really try to find the guitar already in a shop because I want the guitar yesterday.
Amen
I waited a year plus for my AmProII Jazzmaster and it was worth every second of the wait. Get the guitar you want. Save up for it. It’s worth it. If I could I would get one. Not Relic’d;) That being said if you have the same relic feelings I have, mod shop is an option.
I bought my first Fender Custom Shop Strat (shell pink) from my local shop in Seattle (Thunder Road) a few days ago. I love her!
Luckily, you guys had THE Fender CS guitar I would build already on your wall! 😁 All the specs on point. Journeyman Relic is a game changer, too.
I agree those Journeyman relics are something else!
I see some other options.
1) order the Custom and while you wait, get a Classic Vibe of similar spec and play it until then
2) Visit Stratosph3r3 and do a parts build from Custom shop parts, assemble it or get a luthier to do it. This might be something that will tide you over *or* be everything you wanted. Is it a Custom shop guitar ? Well, if you collect all the bits that came as per spec of the body, yes, but pretty much always "Just an expensive Partscaster".
I recently bought a classic vibe to use as a project guitar to show my kid how to swap pickups, bridges, tuning machines, how to shim a neck, do fretwork and file a nut. Things my old man did for me that really helped me understand the instrument on a fundamental level. These are all things every guitarist should be able to do on their own.
I have 5 Fender custom shop guitars, three I ordered and two I picked up as shop demos at a great price. I have since sold everything else, they are indistinguishable from vintage guitars in feel, sound, and look. I have heavy relic to journeyman. I think journeyman is the sweet spot of cost and looks. And if you think Custom shop guitars are expensive, take a look at a 60's guitar.
Lock down has given me more funds than I usually have. With the prices I see today I'm quite fortunate to have the guitars I have before the prices surged.
Most i acquired in mid 2020 a CS 2014 58 Lp, 2015 Lpt and a 339. Lovely instruments
You have some great pieces there and sincere congratulations!
10:23 that’s my guitar!!!! I ordered it with Baxter last new Year !!! Should have it by Christmas !!!! I’m up in Vermont but these guys are so awesome I had to go through them !!! Meteora master build coming soon!!!
Great episode guys, I’m about to do the same here with a custom order via Gibson. You’re right about it being paid by the time you actually hold it in your hand too ahah!
I put a deposit on a masterbuild tele. The Bludgeon, will get it late 22. Fessler makes them. Heard that they have already gone up in value. Funny thing is I hated teles.
I think Id go for one already built!
I have 6 Custom Shops...I play them, I collect them, I cherish them...
Hey guys, I'd love to see a video where you express you views on the strengths of each of the Master Builders . Go one by one giving us the positive highlights of each builder and why they would be the right one for a particular build. Yes, they are all qualified but would be best suited for a certain purpose ie. Krause for a Clapton , Wilson for a Relic, etc.
It would be great.
Telling the wife it would be dumb not to buy a new guitar right now, think how much money we will save.... Wish me luck LOL
We take no responsibility for your health on this one:)
Levitating down like a Jedi. Love it.
5 years that’s crazy. My custom shop team build hardtail Stratocaster from around 2012 was about 6 months.
--Yes. Always. Do it.
I cannot wait to check out the new spec room!!
Everything you desire and enjoy is worth the wait
Greetings from Nashville north, Louisville Ky.
Good work guys, keep it up.
If you don't need it fully custom, there are gorgeous team built custom shops available that are damn fine guitars.
A fit room? Hell yeah!
I’ve been thinking about my next order. Team built is out 14 months! Sheesh, guess I need to make up my mind soon. 😁
Can’t wait to get mine. Maybe something like 4 or 5 months left!
You mentioned briefly the ability to pay it off as it's being built. What percentage of the total cost is usually due when the order is placed? I'm curious to know what the general payment schedule is.
Thanks guys!
Cant wait till later this year when I finally get to place a custom shop order. Been saving my pennies for months to get enough cash set aside. May not get it for a year or more but it will be worth it. Just hoping having one doesnt turn into me wanting two haha
That special effects combined with the master baxter stunt, so 80's, somebody may sob steal it ;)
Nice shoutout to Mojotone. Great cabs! 😎
5 years, that's mental. It would be nice if they offered any of their off the shelf models with a nitro finish at a suppliment so you can do your own relicing by just playing it.
If you want a good movie to watch see the American Masters documentary on Buddy Guy on PBS
I've ordered 2 custom shop fenders, both have been great. 2 year wait in 2015. I've ordered from 4 top end luthier 2 great 2 terrible. I have 2 other custom shop fender bought second hand both amazing. There are many choices but take your time. I've also seen many fender custom shops that were terrible 'to me'
Omg Casino Guitars and Magic the Gathering!!! Love it!!!
Casino custom fender garage lol... I won't lie.. short of a black market kidney sale I'll never be able to get the amazing quality of service yall provide... but the fact that a bearded farm boy and a dude who combs his hair as much as I do are who u get to shuck and jive wit while u buy a guitar that's as much
As a car and since straight pros assemble it u wait as long as u would to get a custom home remodel Is legit... keep up the good work and its rad that atleast fender in this day and age understands the need to build custom dream instruments for musicians... usually ur just told what they've made is what u want and that's that
Larks has some very cool Tele's out there and I have graffled with it, but I had one issue with them them are head stock stamped but not on the bolt on at the neck for "Custom Shop"
5 years will be worth the wait when it arrives for sure,, whos building yours jonathan,, vincent, greg or ron🤔
liked for the chair drop 🤣
So like the neck showcase in the Gibson custom shop storefront? That was cool, because I honestly wouldn't know what neck to order. (I don't have a super strong preference, just…not super chunky as I have short fingers.) I find the Fender BYO shop (from their stock models) fairly straightforward, but I'm someone who would *always* pay extra for a matching headstock, and that's not available from either BYO or team built, and I just don't consider that alone to be worth master built premiums when I can just go order it from Warmoth instead. :P
Jonathan told me if I didn't like my Tele Baxter will buy it. :)
There are soooo many great guitars available, including Fenders, that you can play TODAY. I just don’t get it.
Gear snobs need to see fender on the headstock
Status symbol
It's a luxury item. If you've got the money and you like guitars, who cares? It's a piece of art really.
Ah just buy a Kiesel Delos or Solo lol . 3- 4 months build time . I know they don't have the same mojo as a Fender or the chance at meeting you guys .
Go to lutherie school and build your own in that time
Worth it :') you guys are the best!
Just get a Suhr with Stainless Steel frets and you're pretty much good to go.
Suhr’s are higher end knockoffs… if someone’s willing to spend CS money, I doubt they want a Suhr
@@gunkanjima3408 knockoffs? I doubt it. They don't feel like Fenders at all. I've seen shoddy Fenders on Suhr's price. They come with stainless steel frets on their production line which Fender doesn't even do.
Yes, Rhett was at Summer NAMM.
Man, I sure do love inflation. Our economy sure is bouncing back strong isn’t it? But hey at least there aren’t any mean tweets!
Have you been to the grocery store lately? Empty shelves are noticeable. I'm 48 years old and never remember seeing empty shelves...
@@BockwinkleB I have to be honest I'm not seeing empty shelves. I'm sure somewhere there are but here on the east coast I'm seeing grocery stores stocked full of stuff. Walmarts, Foodlion, Safeway, Costco, etc.
@@vedder10 Food Lion and Harris Teeter, NC. I noticed one and didnt really think about it and then a few days ago went to the other and saw the same.
2019: "We don't need any more old white men telling us what to do!"
2020 - 2021: "We must do everything that the old white men tell us to do!"
@@vedder10 not only are are shelves missing most of the items I wanted, the prices are through the roof. 10 bucks for a pack of Oscar Mayer bacon? Not just groceries, 4 bucks for a gallon of gas? Just wait until they tell us this is the new normal again, even though we just saw four years where I made the most money I have ever made in my 40 years on the planet. I’m in the dead center of the east coast in hell hole known as New Jersey.
Have you ever shipped to Switzerland?
Message us at the shop! We can def help you out.
good video. There are too many other great builders who can build a fender-style guitar in less than 5 years.
speaking of ones already on the market, tell me about that pink one with the reverse bridge pickup in the background.
There's a video on that guitar already
My first fender was a LPB MIM tele and was $350 in 2002, fucking crazy how pricey they are now
"You might not like the guitar you ordered." This would be my biggest fear. I went to my local shop yesterday and I picked up all 5 CS guitars they had on the wall. In a word, "meh". They were ok. I had a hard time imagining who would walk up to the register and drop $5K on one of them.
And the second part is 5 years is a LONG time. My tastes have changed in the last 5 years. So the specs I like today might not be what 5 years future me is into. Dunno guys. I'm not sure at what point Fender needs to either expand their capacity or put a pause on new orders.
I own 3 and think theyre all great but there is no way, and I really mean NO way that I would put money down and wait for a Fender Custom Shop to get built over YEARS. Ive played a bazillion, have my couple that I like, and I'm not into rolling the dice like that. Especially when, at least when I looked last year, the only way to get stainless frets was to get a masterbuilt. The only guy I would consider is Ron Thorn, but at that kind of money you have options... If the lead time was 6 months ok that's fine but the last time I was told 6 months it was for a Suhr custom order and then I waited 9 months. Though I have to say that 9 months sure seems short compared to today...
hey guys what are your thoughts on rickenbacker guitars, and do you have any guitar sugestions for someone who dont have the money for a rickenbacker?
Harley Benton does a version of the famous rickenbackers. Mixed reviews though. Most Harley Bentons are good for that- solid platform, maybe a minor flaw here or there, but generally well made and for sure massively cheaper than a Ric.
@@simontemplar3359 im not so sure about the harley bentons cuz it seems so sketchy with that low price, i will check it out tho. thanks for the suggestion. but i have never really tried a harley benton so i cant judge em yet. i just dont want a guitar that i dont have to modify
I have 2 Harley Bentons. Can't be beat for value. I live in Germany so shipping is free and I can easily send it back, which is different from US. 10 years ago they were horrible, but they have improved 300% in the last few years.
@@jondiven96 if you say so, guess i`l give them a try, but shipping is not a big problem for me since i live in europe, so its easy to send it back
What about regular team-built? How long do they take? Been thinking about getting one. I heard 14 months
0:50 I can't tell if Jonathan is serious, but I think he is? 5 1/2 years for a Custom Shop? Yowsa... You guys are great at keeping us up-to-date on the industry
That’s the timeline for a masterbuilt I believe. They say later that a team built is 18 months.
@@Dram1984 ah, gotcha... thanks!
Thats for a Masterbuilt only from certain builders, not all of them are that long. Contact us and we can get you timeline for each builder.
@@CasinoGuitars that's the next video; ""these are the 4 less busy masterbuilders at Fender right now and the timeline is this .. "
Yup...my team built custom order is gonna take 12 months at least 🙄
The 3.5 to 4 year wait for a Masterbuilt was just too much for me. Not even sure if imma be alive by then to unbox it 🥺
Agree
Do you think there will be a surge in the used guitar market after Covid from the hordes of quitters? BTW, I broke down and get a road worn Tele...it needed a set up and I'll break it in before I judge. You definitely influenced me to look at and buy a slightly distressed guitar.
Why is the bridge pickup on the pink strat behind you angled the wrong way???
Jimi Hendrix style on pink strat!
@@leonardkrasner5811 I see the logic with the reversed strings but it seems a stretch!
Go to John Cruz master custom shop 😅
I already did it! Vintera Tele 50's and Vintera Strat 50's. Im done! Thank you very much! Good bye :D
11:40 - Baxter's Daily DnD Content
I was literally screaming “The Many Saints of Newark” into my phone like Baxter could hear me somehow.
Can Masterbuilts be financed over time?
Bottom line. FCS are cool but not worth the price. The only reason they sell for that amount, is that people pay it. I have a FCS P bass that I like but it will be a while before I don't feel the financial hit from that one. I recommend putting together a parts guitar with your specs and take it to someone who is really good at setups. You will get FCS quality for about half the price. A lot of luthiers will even make a body, a nitro finish, and relic it to your specifications.
Buy a PRS Silver Sky. Best solution.
the wait is the hardest part - tom petty
Does fender still have quality issues?
Wait... What happened to the Pick N Pig!?!?! That place is the best!
So, how long is the wait on a Squier custom shop Stratocaster?
I can get you one of those in 4 months!
@@CasinoGuitars I was joking, but now you got me wondering. Is that a a thing? Custom/Master build Squier?
@@chadwicks_guitar :) I thought you may have been joking and my response was in kind but…there have been masterbuilt squiers:) I believe, they are very few and far between though.
Mexican strats were 350 early 2010s
Great David Blaine imitation!
All of my guitars are custom. I bought them and modified them to fit me. I don't need to pay the premium or have the status of a "Custom Shop".
What happened to the blue Strat? It’s been replaced my the Shell Pink one for a few videos now
Don’t worry, she’ll come back, she’s just taking a spin around right now!
@@CasinoGuitars phew 😅 I love the pink but something about Daphne….
Check out Warmoth …favorite pickup brands ..a good luthier who does great finish work …wait six months or so…drink beer and smoke fat ones while you’re waiting ….repeat 👍😎
What happens if you die before it’s built?
Your next of kin will be so happy!
This is too many Dungeons & Dragons references, now I need to get to Hero Forge and make a Baxter the Bard miniature.
What happens if the buyer dies while the guitar is still being built? Will Fender refund the deposit to the immediate family?
The shop will refund the deposit to the family! Hopefully this never has to happen.
Some day perhaps :)
Do you guys know what the wait time is on the Mod Shop?
Around 30-60 days
@@CasinoGuitars thank you!!
I had my answer at the 2 minute mark....No! Hehe. 5 years is ridiculous unless you simple have money to spend and just want to say you have one, but as mentioned there is likely a custom shop (or non-custom shop) guitar already for sale new or used somewhere that firs your requirements and you just have to look. Does a golfer "really need" those expensive clubs? Typically no, they still play pro level with cheap clubs. Same with guitars. I love Fender but 5 years and price tag? Geesh.
Both Fender and Gibson really seem to be pushing custom shop guitars, but the seem to be forgetting the standard lines a bit. Especially Gibson USA. It almost seems like the are out of business . Their original series is awesome and with in reach. I was lucky enough to score an SG before the pandemic. But try to a goldtop with P-90’s, forget it. Yeah reverb has used custom shops for sale, but original series should be in stores. As should Fender player series etc. Hell even Squires classic vibe are hard to find.
I’ve bought both a p-90 SG standard in Pelham blue, a Les Paul “tribute” that I absolutely love and plays amazing, and a squire classic vibe 70s strat for a project with my son, all this year, lol. Maybe I’m getting lucky
have you looked at the Gibson demo shop, you can get a P90 goldtop or a custom shop the inventory changes all the time
I’m definitely looking for a Fender Custom Shop.. I’m also looking for someone to pay for it. Just dreaming.
I can build something just as good either from scratch or from parts. Would never wait for one of these.
Plug in that jigsaw and have at it.
Can I spend a couple grand to have them scratch the finish with a rock for me?
John and Zach from " Play and Trade Guitars " went to Summer NAAM They have an Awesome Tour Video. They have a Really Cool Guitar Channel on UA-cam called Play and Trade Guitars 🎸🎶🎶