Plugins On Your Live Console || Live Professor 2 Tutorial
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- Live Professor 2 is a fantastic host for using audio plugins in live sound (and not being limited to one plugin maker). I'll show you options for getting it integrated into your console, problems to avoid, and how to make it easy to switch settings between songs, so you can tune vocals like a pro.
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Thank you for this! May you be blessed more the way you blessed us with these learnings! All love from the Philippines!
I'll receive that blessing! Bless you too Alex!
Thanks for all the great videos & advise, used this for Christmas services. Worked very well!
I was just asking myself if this was possible. Your videos are always super helpful! Glad I came across this
Amazing job my friend. I’m about to start programming my first live Professor setup for a gig tonight. Thanks for the help, keep up the good work and have an amazing Christmas 👍
Sweet! Let me know how it went!
This is awesome! Thanks for all your guidance. In working through setting it up I also discovered you can set up a MIDI cue to recall scenes. For us, that allowed us to create a midi note inside our presentation software (Proclaim) for each song and when we go to that song it automatically changes the key in Live Professor. One less thing for our audio guy to worry about!
A majority of what I do is high school choir concerts and dinner theater. We built up our productions over the 3 years I did it in high school, and now that I'm out, I have more time to plan and I actually purchased my own mixer (a Yamaha TF3, kind of an impulse buy and I wish I'd waited and got a StudioLive Series 3, but we make do). I've almost convinced the fine arts department head that it's time to purchase a new mixer, and God-willing he'll get the 64S (it's gotta be used for theatre and we're [again, God-willing] getting a new auditorium soon). Watching your videos has helped me grow my skill and always gets me hyped up to mix!
That's awesome! High school theater and choir was my jam. I still love musicals.
Went to the nerd zone this week and tried Live Professor today. Nice. Just on the bass channel and used Native Instruments Dirt plugin. Nice to see that it doesn't add much latency and I adjusted delay on the bass by 0.4ms on the x32. Really fills out the bass of the room and online. The main use of this would be vocal tuning. Not sure we will go there but maybe. I would like to try some Bus processing. User Patch points for out and in really make this seem as good as Waves outboard processing at a very reasonable cost. Those who have X32 or M32 and can't upgrade to a Wing, Avantis or Yamaha Rivage - this is one way to add some value to an aging X32. Now, training other volunteers on this? let's see how that goes.
Man, I just watched this again after sending it to one of my subscribers. I forgot how many jokes you got into this video and kept it under 20 minutes. Well done sir.
lol thanks 🤣
Great! I was just thinking about starting to use Liveprofessor 👍🏻
Sweet! 🙌🙌
“Ask me how I know.” 😂😂😂
Been there, done that. Love it!
Thanks for this video. It was very helpful. I started with live plugins using LiveProfessor V1 many years ago. I switched to Waves Multirack sometime in 2016. It has served me well for five years now, but I just recently reupped my Waves plugins plan and went from v9 to v12. Found that Multirack only supports up to v10. If I want to use the new Renaissance GUIs (v11) or the (very nice) high DPI versions of the SSL plug ins (v12), then I'd have to spend another $600 to get Waves Superrack just to be able to use the latest version of the plug ins that I just paid for all over again.. That is ridiculous. I started looking into LiveProfessor again, played with the current version demo a bit today, but wanted to get up to speed on the very different interface and features. Found your video and am seriously considering purchasing the current LiveProfessor version. Thanks again for the great and helpful content.
Happy to help!
Waves is terrible when it comes to muscling you into expensive and unplanned updates!
Also, could you send an output bus to LP2 (post fader) of your mix that goes to a Reverb/compressor chain in LP2 and then back out for a send to FOH? Would this not take care of latency? Especially, if you are running other thing such as a vocal tuner... you could set them to delay together... just a thought
I have xr18 mixer and I want to add a plugin in it for example like an audio is playing in channel number 2 and I give signal in channel number 5 then the audio of channel number 2 should automatically decrease gradually and when I remove the signal from channel number 5, then the audio on channel number 2 automatically increases gradually.
I have seen it in many live venues but don't know how to do that can you tell me please .
Can you show the same patching routing as you connect the live professor mixer?
RME Digiface Dante is another Option. The Roundtrip Latency is much shorter on Dante ready Hardware.
Liveprofessor has an detailed option for midi mapping - you can do things like keychange on autotune without cue or snapshots.
Thanks for those tips!
Exactly the video i wanted😍
I'm a bass player and I would like to use some plugins. What do I need in order to just to run plugins through a bass amp?
With the Live Professor is there an app for it were you can us it along side with your computer. Just like with Super rack performer but with super rack performer you need to run windows in order to use an iPad
Great video! 2:03 I think it would be better to clarify that those 4-10ms are ONLY for Dante Virtual Soundcard specifically. If you use a PCIE card or similar Dante hardware interface than you get the fastest latency with no tax on the CPU for Dante. 3:37 Also, most churches don’t have the channel count to replicate channels for a panic situation. But it’s still a creative way to fail over.
"The greatest problem in communication is the assumption that it actually took place" .. thanks for pointing that detail out.
There are several churches I know if who have doubled their vocal channel to do this... 3 of which I set up myself :)
What latency do we have with a dante interface like the Rme digiface Dante? like any dante hardware 2 ms average
hey mannn ==== this one helped me alot your videos are always satisfying but i want to know i'm struggling to route my Main LR to live professor to make some little tuning can you know how to do it ??
Would there be a way to account for this delay on LP2 by setting some type of delay in the console? Or would that be a bad idea?
Yup!
The only time you need latency compensation is if 1 source is going multiple paths and then summing back together. Drums are a good example. A lot of engineers make a very squashed drum group and sum back with the uncompressed group, which is just a fancy ration control, and those need to be compensated for sure. The guitar on stage left does not need to latency match the bass on stage right.
Hi there. thanks for uploading this video. I have the STL3 16 mixer and I was looking for a plugin host to use for my plugins. I saw that Waves has SuperRack but at $600 US that is very pricey. This at $99 is pretty good. I haven't found any tutorials anywhere online that shows how to setup LP2 to a Presonus Mixer just Behringer mixers for some reason. Does anybody know where I can find more information on how to setup LP2 with a Presonus mixer? thanks in advance.
Hi, I founded your video because i was sesrching a way to have One external synth route to ableton, so i can use vst plugins to effect my synth in real time. How i can do t'hat? I own a behringer x32 producer. Thank you a lot for any kind of help.
Do you think Live Professor is necessary if you have the "show page" in StudioOne 5.2?
Probably not
Can you also show how to send the signal from live profesor back to the console
I am only interests in live performances and still not able to just use my daw as mixer and effect rack. But audio gets reprocessed and feedback starts. Help.
Hi!! Totally awesome video!! One question, I want to send all the instruments (guitars, bass, keys, even an electronic drum) direct to an audio interface without any amp or effect, then in the laptop use STUDIO ONE and then in the software add all the plugins( for guitars and bass bias fx, and for drums superior drummer) as separate multitrack, after that that final sound return for the same audio interface and send that to a PA System and also use aux outputs for monitoring that final sound in a live performace. Is that possible to make with a "midas mr18" or "Focusrite Scarlett 18i20" without latency??? thanks! greetings from Peru!
Nope, you'll need more channels on the interface than that, and you'll get latency. The issue is, how much latency can you tolerate, and how many channels can you get on an interface.
@@AttawayAudio many thanks for the answer!! what if I use Presonus StudioLive 16R ?? I could have less issues?
Do you multitrack record and use live plugins off the same computer?
I haven't tried that yet, but I would make sure to use another interface and different USB buses on the computer.
Edit: I mean with LP2 and a DAW separate. It's definitely possible to use plugins on your DAW while you're recording.
I'm figuring out if it's possible to run an autotune plugin on my midas x12 digital mixer for karaoke shows. I love your tips on how to set the system, but I'm confused on how to physically route the cables for the mixer. I run off a laptop for the karaoke songs and use a tablet for the mixer. Thank you for any advice. If I could get it working I think it would be a hit!
Are you using an additional audio interface to live streaming or are you going off the series III mixer?
It seems like when I livestream off of my series III mixer, I lost channel 1&2 because I route my livestream to usb1&2. Is there another way I could route my sound off the mixer without losing ch.1&2?
if you go to "home > audio routing > digital patching" you can change your USB sends to route your stream from a different stereo pair
@Attaway Audio how do you obs to read a different pair of stereo send?
Hi so waves has dsp servers for processing plug ins, but they’re super expensive. Do you know of any cheaper options, so as to reduce latency for live performances and send to in-ears?
You can build your own.
Hi I would like to get you understanding on setting up input for line arrays? Do you go set them full or stick with 12 o’clock?
10 to 9
I think what you're asking is how to set the power amps on your line array (or any other speaker system) and you might find that answer in this video ua-cam.com/video/R7zKiFErHs4/v-deo.html
But I have problem with phantom power on my input once I route it through live professor my phantom power from the console deactivate and I can't activate it on my computer as well, how can I go about it sir.
Great video, man! This is very helpful! I'm also using a StudioLive III and inserting LiveProfessor on individual channels works like a charm. I haven't found out how to do so when I'm also using the NSB StageBox though, have you stumbled across the same problem? Since I have to set the source of the channel to "Network" in that case, I can't return the signal from LiveProfessor to the same channel and have to use different return channels...
It's trickier. You have to use the computer as an AVB device, and then have the console look at the computer's AVB output. Of course this is just theoretical - I haven't done it.
@@AttawayAudio can you elaborate on how you would route your AVB from the NSB -> SLIII -> studio one -> SLIII
Is there a trial or anything?
Can I use Live Professor for live stream audio? We use Reaper with Waves plug-ins currently, but we occasionally have issues with it pushing our PC too hard.
We don’t use the DAW to record at all, so recording functionality isn’t needed. I’m just looking for the best way to add plugins to our live stream tracks while taxing our PC as little as possible.
Will Live Professor be lighter to use than Reaper in this case?
Live Professor is only a plugin host, not a mixer, so I'd say no.
James, studio one also has scene and recall filters
Did I miss anything in the video about adding a chain for audio playback like Spotify? Can anyone point me in the right direction?
I didn't talk about it here, but you can use windows audio or mac audio to route to tape in via USB 36-37
Can I use a Behringer x32 with a Dante card then connect a M1 Mac or a Mac studio and run the plugins live to return to the behringer X32 while recording into a daw ?? I know there are Dedicated DSP servers but I feel like that’s old tech now that Macs are so much more powerful ? Don’t want to waist money on what’s not needed. I appreciate your thoughts !
Yes, you could use your DAW as inserts with the X32. I haven't actually done THAT with a M1 Mac Mini, but I have used vocal tuning inserts in Live Professor 2 on the X32.
NERDSHAMING. Thanks bro. Prolly will comment again as I watch.
I'm using a Presonus 16 series iii and M2 MacBook air.
I would like to see if this can via AVB virtual soundcard and if so can multiple macbooks be used to reduce processing load.
sounds complicated!
anybody know how to do this on a&h dlive s series? using dante to get signal to live professor, just dont know how to get it back into the console...
you may have to return it to a different channel instead of an insert. I'll look when I'm on one later this week.
Does it come as a plugin too or just a standalone?
Standalone
Hi. It's possible to route vocals to live profesor 2 then back to mixer to the same channels but still the musicians IEM have unprocessed signal? TIA.
Depends on the console and your monitoring setup. Some Yamaha consoles have a direct out that can come before the insert send/return.
@@AttawayAudio X32
@@AttawayAudio Thanks
Great!!!! thany you sir .
can I Use Live Professor 2 for RECORDING
Not that I've found.
does live professor can be run in macbook m1?
Yes, I'm doing this at my church.
May I have link for this software
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Does anyone know the latency just using a usb cable directly to computer with no interface? Say a Macbook Pro?
depends on the hardware buffer size you set and the sample rate (one of the arguments for a higher sample rate console)
Can you speak to the difference between this and the new Waves SuperRack Performer? Pros and cons of either. Recommendations. etc.
Waves SuperRack Performer only lets you use Waves plugins. If you have a specific effect you want that's not made by Waves, you're out of luck. I'm about to make a video on which plugins I would use that AREN'T Waves, and which Waves plugins I haven't found a better replacement for. Stay tuned :)
James.....are you by any chance related to Ross Geller?
Hey. I just to watch a commercial. That means your moniti$$$ed right? Woohoo!!!
Yeah! Its not the gravy train but it helps me keep making videos!
PANIC BUTTON!
not so much jesus , but still appreciate you churchtechs spreading the knowledge, right on !
Nerdshaming!! What’s this professor you speak of!!
Lol its in the title... But I think you know that?
Still prefer multitrack from waves, LP2 is good if you have same people singing for the whole service. Don't know why LP2 does not have a quick way to change chain, is way to slow to load from file, also drops out, when waves can change a chain in a click without interruption. Other than that, PL2 is better than waves.
Not sure why it doesn't let you make chain changes mid-performance. But using other non-waves plugins is another consideration.
@@AttawayAudio Also a lot cheaper. But about the chain, lets say John sings to the mic 2 songs, then Marc takes over. In LP2 there is no option to change the chain. In waves i simply choose John or Marc, as have saved the chains. Might be wrong, but i didn't find any LP2 docs showing how to do it other than saving to file a chain... But hard to quickly load a file..also is a drop while doing that.
@@mrovi789 I found where you can filter global snapshot settings, but that's still a little clunky for what you're wanting. How much are you changing between "John" and "Marc"? Just EQ & compression settings, or the plugins loaded in the chain?
@@AttawayAudio We change a lot, we are the type of church where anyone can go and sing... (worst thing ever). That's why we gone the waves route, insert a C6 (250 trick) few other plugins, and have almost everyone saved as a preset.
@@mrovi789 Since you can patch the same input and output to multiple chains can’t you have one for each singer and bypass the chain not in use?
The Dante part is false. It is the leading network in terms of live sound-network manangment. And you should know that since you have a SSL Live console... The delay is around 1msec
The latency is not from Dante specifically, it's from VSC. That's why I recommend the pcie card
Jakob we use the RedNet PCIe Dante card for our broadcast audio in and out and its sub 1ms latency where as using Dante Virtual Soundcard is minimum of 4ms.
@@Jleveq94 Okay yes. I think I went a bit to fast at the keyboard. I’m a system technician for D&B audio technik. And we use it all the time.
I’ve only used DVS for virtuel soundcheck, so I did not know that:)
No worries! I've loved all the D&B PAs I've ever mixed on. My buddy Jeremy Seawell worked for them last I checked. You know him?
@@AttawayAudio Hey man. His name does not ring a bell atm. I’m european, so i do most work in europe. Do you know what he’s doing? Like Rigging, design etc?
Soundteck solo)
Avoid it at all costs 😂😂😂
Sound tech solo
Wait.... You get coffee and donuts???
when I bring them...
Soundtech
No nerdshaming here. Church techs gotta make do with what church techs have.
Giving MacGyver a run for his money 🤣🤣
Nerdsheming
Thanks for checking in 😃
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i''ll have to check that one out
soundtech solo lol
Want to come to my church to help me set things up? lol jk, but really tho.
I have a form on my website you can fill out... www.attawayaudio.com
@@AttawayAudio Excellent! When we get our permanent building up and running, I'll do that :) ty!
nerd shaming lol
Nerd Shaming
nerdshaming
lmao
haha the jesus part made me leave instantly
well, not fast enough to avoid commenting :)
Hi, I founded your video because i was sesrching a way to have One external synth route to ableton, so i can use vst plugins to effect my synth in real time. How i can do t'hat? I own a behringer x32 producer. Thank you a lot for any kind of help.
Does anyone know the latency just using a usb cable directly to computer with no interface? Say a Macbook Pro?
It matters what buffer size you use from the program... but I think the baseline is 4ms.