Air Band Radio Scanners Are Illegal!? - The Law Explained
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The only time I was flagged for a scanner at the airport the constable complimented my scanner and told me the tower frequency ( Icom R-5 ). The guy who reported on me gave me a dirty look.
Now THAT I find EXTREAMLY Funny. I bet that guy won't be trying to grass many more of us up for enjoying our hobby, LOL. Anyway,,, serves him right for sticking his nose in where it's not wanted, LOL.
@@raydavidsonm0ray.777 Oh, that was at Reagan National Airport in Washington DC USA, where there are few radio restrictions. Airport is DCA
@@raydavidsonm0ray.777 Wishing you all the best in life in the future. Stay safe and healthy, and God Bless. And good listening
@@raydavidsonm0ray.777 Possible "terrorist" paranoia
@@normanhill535 Yes, because you "shouldn't be allowed" to do that. Some people are just nutters.
"You must not listen, if you do, you must not record, if you do, you must not play it back!"
Line missing, "If you do play it back, everyone must have earplugs in, or must not be listening".
If you do listen, you must not perceive the information
In the USA, laws like this are used for "selective enforcement". If the police want to search or arrest you, they have a legal reason by using a law nobody follows.
I wonder if that practice could be challenged in court by citing the US Communications Act of 1934. It clearly states: "The Airwaves are part of the Public Domain". This is in the Study Manual for the US Novice Class Amateur Radio License.
@@bruceforster3709You misunderstood the point. there are no laws prohibiting listening in the US.
@@dziban303 requires FCC license if you install Radio Scanner on vehicles in New York and Florida
Late 80s-early 90s... A bearcat Scanner on 800-940mhz, a tone dialler, BT phonecards & payphones.... Hours of fun & Absolute Mayhem as a bored student.. 😆😆😆
Those were the days.
Not saying anything more lol
As someone who has no idea what ant of this is, what did the things you mention do?
Tell us more?!
In the USA any frequency transmitted is open for public consumption. When I was learning to fly, I bought a scanner and programmed all the air traffic channels on it to learn how to understand the lingo. I also use my other scanners to update me on traffic issues, crime and local emergencies.
No. Mobile phones, encrypted traffic and I believe cordless phones and microphones are not allowed to be listened in on.
@@NiceMuslimLady Both are encrypted and are subject to other laws concerning encrypted messages. Many police departments in the US now hide their transmissions by using trunking radios. They change frequency rapidly making it impossible to follow unless you have a properly programmed trunking radio with their codes. Still not illegal, just very difficult and expensive.
@@parajerry Not all cordless phones are encrypted, at least not the older ones. Police departments are trying to hide their transmissions in other ways, such as actual encryption. I remember there was one before the encryption started and before trunk trackers that every transmission was on a different frequency...PLUS, the carrier wouldn't drop immediately after a transmission. It would continue and make four beeps to try to make it more difficult for scanners to follow, in addition to switching frequencies.
I mentioned to my father about getting a radio scanner as I've gotten into short wave recently. The old boy is convinced they're illegal, lol. I'm in Australia by the way.
It's one of them things that is technically illegal (it's in the statute books) but has never actually been enforced. There's never been a test case where anyone has been prosecuted solely for listening to airband radio traffic.
There was case here in Australia some years ago under the old wireless act. A person was charged with “intercepting” wireless communication. The court struck out the charge when the defendant showed that in no way had interception occurred, as the communication was successfully received. The must have accepted that the meaning of intercept in the act was to prevent reception. The new radiocommunications act was much better set out in that respect. I have several older scanners that are capable of air band reception and listening to radiocommunications is usually not illegal these days. I was surprised to see air comms on 134-136 mhz. Isn’t that supposed to be out of bounds to protect radio telescopes? Also in Australia, in older times, the analogue channel 5a had its vision carrier on 136.250 (sound 143.750). This meant using 2M in locations that had a 5a TV channel was likely to be problematic.
Fortunately they changed it in Australia so it is not illegal to listen to unencrypted comms, it is only illegal to act on any information received.
I have a thing for those older realistic/radio shack scanners. Thanks for some more fun footage and info again.
You did what you said was illegal ie listening, recording..lol, I always got told you can listen but mustn't act on what you hear ie cops calling all cars and trying to go help..good vid!!❤️😊
I don't see a problem. If it's out there. Then we will listen to it. Legality doesn't come into it. It's just people having fun listening to the selected scanner frequencys.
Thanks to my "airband radio" (AOR8000 and discone) in the 90s, I became a cop for 14 years and now I'm an airline pilot. I thank the radio for both these careers! 👌🚔✈
Great video Lewis. 30 years ago when I was going through the security at Jersey C.I. airport, I got stopped for having a scanner. All they did was ask me to power the radio on and off! ... I don't know why they asked me to do this. Anyway all was okay and they let me through. :)
I think that discretion is needed when listening to a radio, in the same way you wouldn't watch a horror movie in public! :)
Now going to put some AA's in my IC-R6 and have a listen! :)
They sometimes make you power-on laptops and tablets, to ensure they are what they appear to be rather than stuffed with contraband or worse.
@@IanDarley but if you knew you had to turn on the device , it's not hard to stuff it with contraband or worse and still have the ability to turn it on. There's got to be another reason. Maybe to observe body language as you handle the device ?
They want to know it is a scanner, not a bomb. The Lockerbie disaster was a bomb inside a radio.
ICOM R-6 is great size, and with a Moldol stub antenna. Have owned the R-2, R-5 and R-6, great radios.
Yeah that was a thing after the terrorist attacks and so on was updated with air travel travel frequently but never really had to deal with that portion but other parts yes even though I travel before a lot of electronics I never once in power anything on but everything was charged and or had batteries at just in case
As an air traffic controller, my stand on this is we really don't mind anyone listening, or I don't anyway. I monitor my own frequency off duty, as well as Mil Airband. I've used my scanner outside in the street, in front of Police on several occasions and not a word was said despite it being active with simulated air combat at the time.
If you are a controller, can you and your collegues speak a little slower please!
I've still got my Jupiteru 125 scanner which I bought in the 90's when I lived near Glasgow Airport. I can remember hearing the Speedbird Concorde callsign on a few occasions when BA put Concorde on the London Shuttle route, then running into the garden to watch her turning over my house at under 2000 ft on finals. I used to log anything unusual and one in particular a Japan Airlines flying the Polar route. The good old days!
Living in Mid Wales now and you could fall asleep waiting for any comms! Will need to get myself over to Manchester viewing park. 747s were very common last time I was there!
North wales here. Only thing I have managed to receive outside of pmr446 is port control. Need to get into ham / cb and do my test!!
I am a licenced Amateur Radio Operator here in Australia. My hand held dual band transceiver, & mobile dual band in the car have air band receive capability. I sometimes listen in, especially when one of the rescue helicopters is in the area.
I was chatting with the pilots in the cockpit of our holiday flight and said i was licened ham, intested in the radios on board this plane they showed me the regular vhf ones for ground control or ATC, but also the separate bank of radios they used for long dustance comms on hf . I asked if i could photograph them so i could listen out on the frequencies, they said "sure go right ahead" so i did
Great video lewis! Have ya any links for the whistler and sen haix scanners??
When in the UK, tread lightly as it seems everything is illegal. Here in th US, it is NOT against the law to use a scanner, except in two states that I have heard of, New Jersey and Kentucky, and that is only mobile if I remember right. Everywhere else is OK, as long as you don NOT chase any thing down after hearing it on a scanner, and as long as you don't use it while committing a crime. As a trucker in the US, I did have my Ham license, but in addition to the ham radio, I had a scanner in the truck. Never had a problem until I got to NJ POE where a NJ DOT officer came out to my truck and heard NJ state disp on my radio. He proceeded to try to "take" my radio, without asking if I had a license to operate the radio. This guy is no longer employed by NJ.
The UK is requiring a license just to have an aerial on your house, if you do NOT have a license, you will have the antenna police knocking on your door to give you a fine and probably remove your antenna. I find this absurd. If it is being broadcast, people should be able to pick it up without issue from any entity!!
I think you're conflating two things. In the UK, you're supposed to have a licence to watch broadcast TV. This ususally includes, but not always, an external antenna (which doesn't form part of the licence anyway). The other thing is that in some areas, most planning authorities like to throw their petty weight around and can make life difficult for hams that haven't applied for planning permission for an external antenna (which are often far larger than domestic TV antennas. If it gets up their nose, they can order the removal or reduction of the offending mast or pole.
You can own any radio equipment you want in the UK, any type for any frequencies its the use that is sometimes licensed. In the US you can only buy and sell type approved radios with certain frequencies locked. Land of the free? 🎉😂
Hi Lewis how are you doing, is there any new information on pmr or is it still the same
Most enjoyable post Lewis. Gratitude. 👍
I live quite close to a major airport and I have ATIS programmed on a little handheld. I use it for the weather and to find out which way the airplanes are taking off and landing 😊
Where does the airport sell the radios? And program it?
Hello, which antenna is better to receive the air band, a Dipole type or a ground plane whip? I want to have the most powerful one to receive 118.0 to 136.0 Mhz. I want the better.
Things are a bit different on this side of the pond. I'm in Canada, have had my amateur radio license for almost a half century and live near the busiest airport in Canada. As far as I know, there are no restrictions on listening to anything, but you're not allowed to divulge what you hear, with the usual exceptions of broadcasts, amateur radio etc.. What's really dumb is a law south of the border, in the U.S.. There, scanners are not allowed to receive the 850 MHz cell phone band. This dates back to the days of analog cell phones, which were easy to intercept with a scanner. So, for privacy reasons, scanners were not allowed to receive that band. Due to proximity to the U.S. and shared markets, this also affected equipment coming into Canada. However, the reason for that law disappeared with digital phones, which are a lot harder to receive and especially with Voice over LTE, which is encrypted with IPSec. Regardless that law still exists and applies only to that one band, even though the cell phone service has expanded to several other bands. Also, analog cell phones became unusable many years ago, when analog service was discontinued.
Hey, I'm currently training to be a general aviation pilot, the communications and air law exams are the first you have to pass to be allowed to solo fly, which is a requirement, so I have read through the communications theory book, and I'm certain nothing says its illegal to listen in, it does say its illegal to interfere, but that would be making malicious transmissions, not reception
Also, the book says the best way to learn how to talk to air traffic control is to listen to air traffic control and pilot chatter on the radio, it doesn't say how, but nobody in their right mind would hire a plane at the going rate just to sit in it listening to the radio, and i think until you pass your communications exam, it would be deemed illegal to have a transmitting device without a licence, which leaves one option, a scanner
So the theory book, in a round-about way tells you to buy a scanner and listen to air traffic control to practice, even write communications down as if YOU were the pilot being given the instructions, now if I'm not mistaken, transcripts are a form of recording?
Very handy to know. I recently bought a Retevis RT 85 dual-bander and while it can pick up the FM broadcast band (which is useful), there's no airband (after watching this, I tried, but it's not there). So, off to Ali-x and I see the SenHaix 8600 is available for €53. That will be winging its way to me next.
The performance of the SH8600 on your other vid is impressive, just wondering what the range might be with the Retevis. If either of them are good enough for mobile / portable use, I might not bother putting a proper mobile set on the bike.
Went from trains to planes..lived by Elmdon...used to listen and log..also London Airport easy listened to especially Christmas with all the greetings...(put your airport names back to about '67)
I've been using the Radtel 490 and Wouxun UV9K for err *not* listening to airband quite a bit. Nice to hear lots going on especially between the tower&ground as well as being able to scan other frequencies too (I imagine). Thanks for clearing up the legalities LOL 🙄
How are you doing that on FM radios?
@@hfvhf987 they both do AM in the airband range!
@@tee_m Ahh cool
What's the channel step of the SENHAIX 8600 in the airband range? Is it 8.33 kHz?
I got stopped by the police at East Midlands a few months back. I was operating HF mobile but also keeping tabs on the tower on a handheld. The ops van came round checking the perimeter fence and they thought my red led head torch was a laser so called the cops on me. I explained to them I was on a HF contest and listening to the tower just be aware what was going on and they had no problems so long as I wasn't recording it. It's actually covered under interception but I think they know people listen and no one has ever been prosecuted for listening as far as I'm aware but passing that information on to a third party is a different matter. That said you did exactly that in this video and Noel Phillips runs an aviation channel and put atc communications in his videos all the time. If the police wanted to be arsey they could give you be a hard time but I very much doubt anything serious would happen even if it went to court
What the hell does a red led head torch have to do with HF? I would had questioned you too.
@@nativetexan9776 it was at night and I needed light to see what I was doing. Using red light uses less power so my batteries last longer also it doesn't ruin your eyes ability to see in the dark so much. It's just enough light to see the text on the buttons on my radio and to see my log
@@nativetexan9776 lol ok Karen
Another interesting video ,thank you Lewis
What would be your pick for the best airband handheld receiver under say $200? Don't require any other features. Thanks!
Informative as always, 👍
Don't forget the "Andy Kirby" Complaints hotline @5:55 😆
I don’t know if my uv5r is more open than it should be but I’ve always been able to listen to aircraft and the tower from the day a bought it. 🤔
I just got one of those little Chinese radios with AM Airband on it and I can just about make out what I think are the plains.... Why can't I hear the tower? Or should I be able to hear it on another frequency? Like the upload and download frequency's? I'd love to know more about the radios and antennas they use.... And how many watts of power each use....
Glad to be of help
M7TUD
I'm wondering if the SenHaiX firmware could be hacked to enable TX on airband.
Great video thanks. I would be interested to know where i can buy the antenna you are using. Looks pretty kewl. Keep up the excellent work 73 Tony
If you have a CAA Flight Radiotelephony Operator's Licence, can you listen to air traffic even when not sat/operating an aircraft or ground station?
Discretion is the key, don't sit there with the radio blasting, use earphones. In today's climate why put yourself in the spotlight? Just as a footnote my local airfield plays the control tower audio over a pa system.
Oh wow!
My ICOM R-5 is shirt pocket size, doesn't attract unwanted attention. And use a stub antenna, such as a Moldol.
what antenna are you using in the video ..cheers
My Anytalk walkie talkie bought off eBay from rugby radio picks up airband great , all for 70 quid , cheers shane 🇬🇧
Try this. If every you are brought before the dock, ask the judge by what right the government claims they own the air or the frequencies they travel through it? He will most likely spout a line of law and regulations they give the crown the right. Then ask him where is the paperwork for the the bill of sale when and where the air was purchased by the crown. No sense looking because there is no such paperwork. So if they can't prove ownership or well. This would be a interesting case for some legal students to hold a mock court to see how it would go.
Great video my friend. That white Antenna MAX 80 that’s all I can see could you tell me the model of that Antenna please. Thanks
Great video Lewis....Have you got a link for the antenna your using plz...........
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The yaesu ft3 can pick up air band frequencies as well. Interesting vlog
Many newer Yaesu models have airband receive. My FT-991 has, my FTM-10E has. Conversely my Yaesu/Vertex VXA-700 does transmit/receive on both airband and 2m.
Thank you, this is what I was looking for!
Lewis....any idea what the UV-83 is like on airband....seems to bee a new radio from Beofang and they list it as having am airband...but is it am.....seen no reviews on youtube yet.
It's only illegal to transmit not to receive but this also depends on which country you are in . Australian Police frequencies are encrypted so they won't work and would be a bit of a waste of time an money, but ATC is allowed here .
I've just bought second-hand uniden bearcat scanner. I haven't received the thing on it do you think I should get a different antenna
Definitely Kenneth I’ve got a video on this topic coming next week
does the senhaix have squelch on airband or does it just have static between transmissions? I got a radio on ebay about 15 years ago that picked up airband and it got thrown out - huge regret. If this does just have static between transmissions is there another affordable airband scanner you’d recommend?
Yes it has squelch on AM RX.
Info about that antenna you are using?
Hi Louis where can I get an antenna like that and is it worth it ?
great video, many thanks
Where do u get the antenna in the video
I can Rx Manchester Tower on UHF 455MHz from MCC on the UV5-R, which I was quite surprised at. I have a dedicated VHF Airband Scanner with the Diamond X50.
I’ve read somewhere some airports repeat ATC comms in FM so ground crew can listen in without having to buy expensive gear
Here in America, if you have a legal receiver, we are legally allowed to listen to any transmission except for cellular telephone... which is the last thing I'd be interested in !
I believe that only applies to the 850 MHz band and since analog phones are long gone, it's hard to intercept the calls. With VoLTE, the calls are also encrypted, so it would be d*mn near impossible to hear the conversation.
@@James_Knott Yes, but with enough money you can get almost anything. You take take a ride into space now if you can afford it...
It also applies to scrambled transmissions.
@@jplacido9999 VoLTE calls are encrypted with IPSec. Good luck trying to unscramble that.
@@James_Knott yes, you are absolutely right.
What I meant is that the aproach is:
If it's on the clear, it's ok for you to listen to. If it is scrambled (even with simple voice inversion) is off limits for the general public.
That's a good simple rule.👍
Nice. Got yourself a referral on that radio :)
Love this page
I like that antenna where can I find more info on it.
Yeah me too what is the model please?
Max Systems 8HH
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Hi Lewis,how do you access the AM Airband on this radio ??? (Is it a hidden unlock feature ??)
Just type in the frequency in the VFO
It strikes me that if there is a law prohibiting us listening to Air band traffic, it's virtually unenforceable. The arresting officer would have to catch you in the act, and have witnesses. Disseminating info gained is another matter.
Absolutely correct
True
I have a GRE PSR-216 scanner, does anyone know where to get an AC adapter for it? I read in the manual that it has to be reversed polarity?
If you need something like that since her negative and still sin are positive they make an inversion adapter cable indoor adapter but if you have the proper plug but wrong polarity and are good one soldering iron and can easily do this and heat shrink tubing and so on either do that or make a short extension that just reverses polarity have a few of these for specific applications with AC adapters where need be
@John Cliff yes would agree
I didn't know it was illegal to listen to anything, what makes it illegal is if you act on it. Listening to the ATIS can be useful and as you say having a licence cannot possibly be illegal.
What makes anything illegal if you never get caught?
I have been interested in listening on scanners for many years to the point it got into amateur radio and I got my ham license. I started with a shortwave radio and found many interesting frequencies in my teens. My dad said that in the early days, you could even pick up the police on one end of the AM radio band. Now, I can't even listen to my own cities police as the have gone digital and soon to be followed by fire and ambulance. I am sure if you want to spend the money, you could by equipment to receive them.
It has always been my belief (in the US of A) that the Federal Communication Act of 1934 gave free access to the airwaves as far as listening. If you put it in the air, you must expect folks will listen. That being said, it is illegal to use that information for profit or to break the law. In other words, if you use a scanner to avoid police while committing a crime, that would be illegal. If you use two way radio in committing a crime, I think that would escalate the crime to being a Federal offence.
In the days of old, bars and taverns would use the satellite analog transmission of sports games as entertainment and to help bring in customers. Once again, if you put it in the air, folks will listen. But now it was being used for business and PROFIT and they were ordered to stop.
And don't get me started on states that band car radar detectors.
Hi how do i obtain frequency for my AR2000,manny thanks.
Loving your work bruva. Keep the ting moving. 73. London. 🌚👊👍
Hi Lewis what's the link for that radio looks pretty cool
moonrakeronline.com/senhaix-8600-handheld-dual-band-radio?___store=default
Where did you get the scanner antenna?
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LOL andy Kirby complaints line - I'm ringing the DTi right now from my Tardis
its Ofcom now DTI went out years ago
@@eddieMurphy11111 I think you need to read the comment again before you get the joke
@@joshuasprucie8933
And the irony of this is that "the real" Eddie Murphy was a comedian👍🤣👍
i get it now from your tardis i missed that bit so sorry
iI know this is an older post but can anyone provide info on the discone antenna being used on here? Thanks.
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Its a really country specific question, in Germany for instance the law simply states that you are not authorized to listen to any transmission that isn't meant for you - that covers it all really. If that is ever enforced however - that's a different question.
Since its simply a receiver , not transmitting ,how would anyone know , no signal to track -
( as long as not in car )
It's pretty much exactly the same in the UK.
That being said it's absolutely not enforced unless you act on any information received to the detriment of any of the intended recipients.
Specifically with airband you can listen all you like, but if you hear any details of an emergency in progress inbound you should keep stum about it so as not to panic anyone else at the airport who may have family on the plane in question
What is the cool looking antenna you have there? max 800 or something like that? Where can I get one?
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Lewis… where can I buy the MAX antenna you have on the scanner
Many thanks MM7BQG
You’d be lucky to find one now mate
Really interesting for me , lets go back and tell me what is the price o one of these radio, am verry intreeted in having one, for i love air band radio, love listening to aircraft
Thanks Lewis.
Hi a bit of topic here but does anyone know anything about shopwach radios and decent scanners that are at a fair price. I'm willing to sacrifice some features as I'm just wanting to have a nosy around anything in my area.
Back in the day it was illegal to record radio programs too if the broadcast contained copyrighted material (like recorded music), but I don't think anyone was ever prosecuted for it (unlike for filesharing).
Like, there are more laws like this I think!
As far as recording onto audio tapes I don't think anyone was prosecuted.... But in the early 2000 when things stated to go digital I believe their were a number of prosecutions for using Napster!
Where can you buy the disc one aerial on top of your scanner.
Thanks
Howard
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@@RingwayManchester
Many thanks
Howard
I'm glad that I live in New York City where I can Listen to Local Police Dispatch and Air Craft and Ham Radios Repeaters,
Erg intresand altijd je Nieuwe Video, s
Cheers Lewis
I have a shortwave radio (Tecsun S2000) and whilst it can receive airband, it doesn't. I don't live in a great area for reception and would love a good mobile receiver. Can anyone on here recommend one?
I shall listen to anything I want with my scanners.
I’m sure you used to be able to buy Airband Scanners at airport shops or am I imagining it?
Today there are few air band radios, mostly clunky scanners and a few widebands, such as the ICOM R-6. There is moderately priced radio with 66-174 mhz, though I wouldn't recommend it. I use an ICOM R-6 and several miscellaneous stub and ducky antennas.
They used to sell cheap radios at Maplin that included airband and TV band IIRC. I nearly got one back in the day
I’m going to have to stop watching your videos .. just brought another dual bander now! Haha
I have an air band j-pole on top of my garage here in Nashville TN USA and live right off the end of one of the runways at BNA. I pick up ground, tower, approach and departure clearly.
I do not see any harm in listening. Just don’t transmit.
I have a netset pro 44 that I brought from Tandy's many years ago, I use to be a medic for the st john ambulance and was able to monitor the st john frequencies whilst on duty so I know what was happening and If I was needed. a couple of other members had one too and we was given permission by the division superintendent to listen regardless of being on duty or not! The only transceivers was allowed was one the super had all the time and the ambulances!
Oh wow!, I am part of the St John Ambulance NHS Cadets, I also have an airband scanner, what frequency do they operate on? I assume its PMR 446?
@@h4rry815 Hi PC-01 I m going back 35 years now and I can not remember, but no doubt they may have changed their frequencies to the 900Mhz encrypted tx/Rx (the same as the police)
@@chilledoutpaul I fully understand that, makes sense to encrypt it, thanks for your help!
@PC-01 If I get chance I will do a little snooping around 4 u 😉
@@chilledoutpaul Appreciate it, Sir. Thank you 👍
It's laughable to tell people not to listen to plain speech transmitted over the air. It's practically the same thing as talking very loudly in a restaurant and threatening to arrest anybody who listens to your conversation.
You just recorded and played back Air Band traffic… 😂
Exactly 😂
I love breaking the law when there are absolutely no victims. Stupid laws are meant to be broken. It makes me think of Monty python, if the silly walk was against the law.... I would walk silly all the time!
My ham radio has these frequencies already in my radio
They can make say or fear all they want
I will listen to what I wish
I'm a licenced amateur
Licences are a commercial agreement and required for commercial practices. There's no Lawful requirement nor Lawful jurisdiction to stop any non commercial activity.
CAN YOU RECORD FROM THESE UNITS.???
Do they sell the radios at the runway visitor park?
They do
@@RingwayManchester where is it located?
@@RingwayManchester where is it located in the runway visitor park?
Google it, it’s the shop
@@RingwayManchester ok
What us the Max antenna you show?
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I don't know about the UK but is not illegal to monitor any frequency in the US.
what is this mini discone antenna ? 😍
It’s not a discone , it’s a ground plane .
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oh thx 🙏
The ambiguity is basically caused by people simplifying the wording of the Wireless Telegraphy Act, and presenting conclusions - even OFCOM do this themselves. Most of the sensible folklore comes, I think from the two types of transmission mentioned in the Act. Broadcasting, and non-Broadcasting. One with the intention of one-way communication to the masses, and the other two-way communications between specific parties. The other bit that generates the conclusions and comments is the section where it talks about licences being available, or not. My reading of this was that if you could apply for a licence for a band, then it was considered open. Even if you don't really qualify. You could apply for an aviation radio licence, so civilian airband is OK. You cannot apply for a licence for military airband - so my view would be that while we listen, we should not. Clearly it is not broadcacting, and you cannot get a licence - so while no action is the normal response, it's not legit - just not prosecuted. Most of the 'rules' we use stem from these basic features and of course keeping accidental reception info secret is in there too.