Are You Getting Cheated When You Buy A Magic: The Gathering Power Mystery Box?
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
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Dont drink coffe but have seen a lrr video so i know he really likes coffe.
Caffeine content?
I can vouch that Many Worlds Tavern’s coffee is excellent!
Coffee? I like coffee... I bought some coffee, thanks for the discount.
I just bought bags of the 3 different roasts other than decaf.
Not so fast Louis, a pack of Timespiral Remastered is a pack of Timespiral remastered, but the mystery box could be anything, it could even be a pack of Timespiral remastered, and you know how much I've always wanted one of those.
I read that in Peter's voice ffs
Lol
Holy shit, this is an underrated comment
@@justinclement5417 I don't know whether that's sarcastic or an attempt at an insult, so I'm just gonna toss it up you not getting the reference. Otherwise, to post an asinine comment like this means that your head is as far up your ass as Ted Cruz's is up his.
Hush and let people enjoy things.
Even Fat Albert opened a Timespral Remastered pack…
“Hey hey hey, I pulled a Timespiral”
The word "mysterious" has now become an MtG code for "scam". Imagine what they could pull off with the word "secret" instead!
They could even put the word "Lair" behind the word "Secret" and the possibilities cheating people out of money would be endless.
Damn I cant wait for the Misterious Secret of Wonders box !!!
NEW SECRET LAIR ALERT
NEW SECRET LAIR ALERT
Well done
@@fallennomad7806 Or misprint it and say "Liar".
The excessive Time Spiral: Remastered inclusions makes a lot of sense actually - the set was released around the time of the big Pokemon rush, and being the "premium" set of the time a bunch of people were straight up stealing them off the shelves, or scanning different packs to get a discount (these being the versions they sent to big box stores, which is why they have the paper outer wrapping). All the Targets and Wal-Marts and the like basically declared "fuck this" and returned all of their most steal-able stock to the distributors and refused to buy more to put on their shelves, so distributors were left with tons of these things - which is probably why it's their "chase" inclusion for these particular scams.
got a damnation from the pack i stole :D
i dont get how the big boxes still sell mtg, the amount of stolen packs ive seen discarded over the years is insane. when the collectors were first coming out, i would see almost the entire display all cracked open and stolen. they must of lost thousands. packs are so small and easy to steal, literally just crack the cardboard shell and stick in pocket. and now packs are even more expensive. they dont sell anything so small and easy to steal while also being so valuable, surprised they dont have them in a locked case.
8:39
“Theros beyond debt” made me laugh more than it should’ve.
Lol i didn’t even notice that one
In my early teen years I bought a MTG mystery pack at FYE and it contained only basic lands. I fought with the clerk until they gave me my money back. That was the day I learned to never pick up these products.
Thats absolutely insane.
Good for you!
WhaaaahAaaWhat
I'm surprised they gave you your money back.
You know what I remember? Some card shops would sell pre-made casual decks for like 10-15 dollars. They weren't anything special, just 60 somewhat on-theme cards that served as a good jumping off point. Sure, you could usually build a much better deck for the same amount by yourself, but it was a great way for card shops to get rid of the goddamn mountains of cards they would accumulate. I remember buying a goblin one that had a chieftian, some gempalm incerators, and a bunch of derpy goblins. Eventually I tuned that very deck into a fairly capable standard Goblins during Zendikar/Scars block and had a great time.
Good times.
As a fellow coffee lover, I made my first ever "sponsored" purchase just for you Prof. Keep up the great content and I'm excited to try this coffee!
I appreciate that!
Same! The Prof's coffee rant before even getting into the sponsorship was enough to get me to go check them out and order a bag of Dragon's Nest
@@bluexephosfan970 yup. Figured it was "affordable" enough that it was worth giving a chance. More than I'd normally spend on coffee but not a ridiculous amount. Though shipping essentially being a fixed price per bag did sort of suck. Got 2 bags anyway
Seems like Prof may have been threatened with a lawsuit from one of these companies that makes these stupid boxes before anywho I cannot wait to get my academic deck box once the kickstarter is finished and production starts
There's a part of me which wishes that bluff got called, but I expect it's too exhausting (physically, mentally... financially...) to deal with it.
free speech laws are generally pretty lenient in regards to what you can say about another person or company but there are almost always hard caps in regards to libel and slander. Accusing an individual or group or company of criminal behavior is a very serious thing so terms like scam, grift, fraud or alternatively cult should probably not be said unless you really mean it and can back up your statements.
products like these and others that professor has reviewed maybe be of poor quality or value and the ethics of selling them can be questioned but I don't think any of them constitute a breach of local of federal laws.
more like a class action lawsuit and possible criminal fraud charges should be filed against the businesses and people behind these mystery power booster pack boxes.
The quote of "I waste my money so you don't have to" is exactly why I'm here.
Fun fact: the Time Spiral Reamaster pack comes in a rack sheath. This means that the "hit" boxes weigh less. I'm not saying this so people will go weigh these. I'm saying this because you can be pretty sure they have already been before they reach you.
And the ones with two TSR packs are heavier.
Or on SNL when they had OJ draw out a football play that spelled “I DID IT “
The hit box I pulled had the TSR pack and an Invasion Booster
I'm cracking up seeing Etali in every pack
It was the first double Etali that got me good, made me think of that pacific rim meme lol
I bought these on a whim and now have 4 foil promo Nyx Lotus lmao
This is the TCC X Legal Eagle crossover event I didn't know I needed.
Also, you can probably look at price spikes for Etali and figure out when these were bundled together.
@legaleagle colab when?
The intro reminded me of South Park getting around being sued by people. You're hilarious Prof and always standing up for the players which honestly just makes me more of a fan of you and your videos.
Hahahah reminds me of the episode with OJ Simpson and Jean Benet Ramsey 😆 “MURDERER!!”
It reminded me of the "tWKYK - I want to kill the president" Sketch
I saw on somebody's pack opening channel where they opened about three of these; one of them actually did have a Revised pack. However, the rare was Thoughtlace and they said it looked like the pack had been resealed. (Best thing in the pack actually was a Sol Ring.)
Not resealed but he said it was most likely a searched pack. There is a way to move around the cards in the pack and shine a bright light through the white paper to see what rare is in the Revised booster pack.
@@Pandahboymtg ahh yes that is what he said, sorry I confused the two.
Crackingpacks MTG. Most likely searched, but the sol ring was sweet.
I just wish more parents buying for their kids would see this video. I am certain that they are the target audience for this junk.
I would grab a few myself if I could find them, but they were all scooped up at my Walmart, sadly. I just find them fun to open, I'm aware there's little to no profit to be had. Though, I did see at least two Revised Packs pulled out of them. Still, yeah, they should be more transparent about the risks.
All else being equal, I think it's better that a parent bought this instead of a intro deck or jumpstart deck for their kid. Assuming that the kid is already an enfranchised player this is going to be a better gift than another intro product. It's not a great product overall and it's cheating people out of a few bucks on average, but I don't see it as a huge crime.
No enfranchised player should buy it for themselves though I bought one myself just to see what was inside it. Once is all my curiosity required. But for someone who wanted to buy a gift for me they would do better to spend $30 on this than what $30 would get them from most of what is on offer at the local Walmart. I don't need another Jumpstart or Intro deck.
I see it more for the magic UA-camrs. They have the income more than a parent in this case. It random packs and makes good content.
do kids even like magic? thought it was just overweight neck beards?
Do parents buy their kids MTG? I’d imagine it would be Pokemon or YuGiOh
Lawyer here. The question in a defamation lawsuit isn’t whether what you said was defamatory, but is whether a reasonable person would believe what you said was defamatory. In law school they use what you’re doing as an example of something that people think they can do to get out of defamation liability. So you’re not covering yourself on the defamation lawsuit front. Good video though!
Came back here just to say Many Worlds Tavern pleaseee keep sponsoring the Prof. He looks so genuinely excited by you and that's refreshing to see in an ad. Love the Profs content 🤘
Good to know if I ever need an Etali, all I need to do is buy one of these boxes and I might even get 2! What a deal!
Or alternatively, get an Etali from the poor souls that were gifted this.
And maybe buy them a coffee.
"...On TEN of these boxes. My own money for ten of these"
That physically hurt me.... No one should go trough that
Still never seen Time Spiral remastered on shelves and your just like "oh great another one" 😆
I'm so glad you covered this. I've seen some really scurrilous channels trying to sell these boxes.Any hope of a signed Etali?
@@justinclement5417 moss is a hype beast dumbass.
@@justinclement5417 I know that kid was a loser but I didn’t expect him to be THAT dumb.
On top of the rarity of getting a revised pack, keep in mind that in older editions you can actually look through the pack wrapper to check for rares, so don't get your hopes up on seeing anything chase.
Honestly, thank you! Not just for this video but for your channel. Because of you, I turned from a guy who cracked random packs throughout the year to someone who ACTUALLY PLAYS THE GAME. A cracked pack does nothing for me, especially since I only draft.
The depressing thing is that for me this would actually be a good deal because my local game store overcharges so much that a single TSR pack costs almost as much as this entire box, I still wouldn't buy this tho 🤣
There is 0 chance that any real LGS is charging $30 for a single TSR pack.
@@slavisatosanovic2672 Depends where they live. I was in Thailand a couple months ago and while there's a pretty good MTG scene in Bangkok (they have like a dozen LGS in Bangkok alone though only about half of them do MTG) but the problem is that they need to import their product and Thailand has a pretty steep import duty on pretty much everything that comes into the country. Combine that with the difficulty getting enough product for the demand in country and you can end up finding anything that isn't currently being printed at two, three, or more times what they would go for in the US. If there's only a single box of TSR in the entire country of nearly 70 million people you should expect to pay a premium.
In the US the ability to get the product shipped to you from major retailers means that an LGS isn't going to be too far out of whack from internet prices no matter how remote the location, but that's not true for many places in the world outside of NA.
3 LGS's within an hour of me in Pennsylvania have them at $12-18 respectively. It's very possible to see stores jacking prices up just so they can make money off of their loyal regulars. Shoot, my main LGS wanted 280 for Kami Collector boxes the night of prerelease. They sold every case that they had on that night alone.
@@slavisatosanovic2672 really depends on competiton, I live in Bosnia, only one LGS in whole country, they've jacked up prices of single draft booster from 4.44$ to 5.55$, and any special pack is at least 11,10$. Commander precon decks are about 54$. The issue is that most sites don't deliver here, there are no singles to be bought either. And if you manage to order online, postage costs are high.
@@nikolamatasin3877 How expensive is it to ship to Bosnia for say 10 singles?
I'm honestly really excited to try this coffee, thanks Professor! they also sent me a .pdf for an 5e adventure when I ordered it, I love them already
I clicked the coffee link so fast and ordered some! I love the "flavor" of what they're doing!
I like how in the printings listed for Etali on Scryfall, "Resale Promos" is an option, making the foil as worthwhile as the nonfoil from any other set. Seems they've been at this for a while too. You can look up the resale promo "set" as well to see what sort of cards you'd expect to find in these sorts of scams.
And don't look now, but 2021's 7 cards have been the most cards as resale promos so I only expect more of these sorts of products to crop up in the next few years.
I ran a deck with 4 stonecoil serpent and I brought the Playset from a friend for a fiver 😅
The Atarka Resale Promo was my first bit of bling for my Ur-dragon deck.
I talked a distributor stocking the shelf at my local Walmart last week. She told me the mystery power box contents are not random, she insisted that a few times.
Appreciate you going after the truth.
"Get a Revised booster pack from this?" Additional fine print on the box states: Products featured may not be contained within. 😱 Additionally, a foil land is not a promo.😞
Thanks for your continued words of advice suggesting not to spend your money on these products. The ultimate example of "Not for you" we will ever see. 🔔
"I SPENT MY OWN MONEY SO YOU DONT HAVE TO" - This. thank you. I have accepted my magic addiction and these things have always been that one hit that I try to avoid. you're my hero. buy singles
It’s a “Hey, help us get rid of excess inventory “ unboxing. Thanks, Prof.
Seems like the only thing worse than this are the "random lot repacks" you can find on eBay... where you could get a Power Nine card in there!
(Spoilers: You won't.)
I've seen a few videos of this man talking fervently about his passion... and yet I have never heard so much love pouring out of his voice as when he was talking about coffee. If I was in the US, I'd buy some....
I can't express how much I love how excited Professor is of getting sponsored by coffee. It brought a massive smile on my face!
My local Wal-Marts are putting them out for $54.99. You got lucky to find them for $30. Also Prof, you should do one of these multi-pack reviews next time up in Victoria with Loading Ready Run to at least get some sealed games in.
The Professor: Bashes the Walmart mystery box.
Also the Professor: cracks a Force of Will Invocation in the HoD packs lol.
Wow, fantastic sponsor! Also, I hereby swear as a witness of this video that I did not ever hear the professor state that these products are garbage, trash, or cheating, but that he was responding to many magic the gathering players who might say such things in an academic, community focused, constructive debate.
This was a fun start to the morning. Ngl I've helped parents in the card isle before mostly so they aren't wasting their time or wasting money on things like this. Also a good way to bring up the local game store that is literally 10-15 away from the local targets and walmarts so they get better help and product
Definitely keep doing the dirty work to make sure people, especially loved ones with good intentions, do not get ripped off on this, or for newbies getting into the game. You are a man of sheer will power and determination, as well as vim and vigor. It is definitely frustrating these products exist.
That crimped bat token could be worth something in the major misprints groups.
Not gonna lie as a grad student I never felt so connected to the Prof as when he gushed about how much he likes coffee and so wants the sponsorship to go well 😂
Most of the other channels that have been opening these have been getting Throne of Eldraine and Ravnica Allegiance in abundance, where you had Theros and Hour. So there is some variety out there. LOL
I've been seeing a lot of Timespiral remastered show up on shelves at Target for $6 a pack lately, not surprised someone packaged up a bunch of inventory in to these garbage boxes, probably where all the pallets of TS remastered went when it released.
seeing how they are seeliing at $10 + on TCGplayer, that seems like a solid arbitrage
I saw a bunch the other day at a Target for $6, and scooped them up. No LGS near me has them under $10, if at all.
totally unrelated to the mtg content but seeing you so excited about the coffee sponsorship before rolling credits was so wholesome, i love this
I am a fiend for opening garbage and bought one of these from Walmart the other week. Got a pack of Invasion! That's like $50! Instead of cashing out while I was up, I decided to open the pack and got a $1 rare.
Lesson learned.
Thanks for the excellent video, professor. This video, more than any other video, really got me excited to drink coffee. I've never tasted coffee before, but after watching this video I am a loyal many worlds customer. Sponsoring this channel, and specifically this channel, is the best choice a coffee company could have ever made. Many worlds would be making a huge mistake not to consistently sponsor this channel.
Forecast says there's a strong chance of Primal Storms
Honestly the highlight for me was the coffee ad. Thank you Professor for introducing me to Many worlds tavern! loved it
Imagine if primal storm became a $30 card after they did this.
Only a professor could take a one-word answer and stretch it out to over 15 minutes. Lots of experience with essays and minimum-length papers.
I loved the intro, hopefully I'll love the coffee! The discount was nice.
I've opened 16 of these so far, and guess how many chase packs I've seen so far? NONE! While the pulls have been pretty good, you're more likely to pull hot garbage out of random packs like these. I've seen one pack of Revised pulled from one of these on YT, so technically they're not lying😜
Yeah I saw CRACKING PACKS MTG getting Revised for his Patreon.
I saw a pack of mm25 get pulled. His exact words were, "this better not be the chase pack." Oh how wrong you were little timmy.
The best part of this video is the advert. I LOVE coffee. My daughter loves coffee, she has a tattoo of the chemical symbol for the caffeine molecule. My son loves coffee. We never heard of Many Worlds Tavern coffee. We will be giving it a try for sure. Thanks for the heads up, Prof.
"They said pick your favorite, but I picked three!"
Coffee: no... please no... don't promote more than one product... eh, okay.
The most important thing I took from this video: that playmat looks NICE
Video on UA-cam of a revised pack being opened in one of these. It's possible, probably 1 in a million
Or an ad
So the one pack they had already got opened lol
It will never cease to be hilarious how artificially scarce WotC’s cardboard is lmao
Just proxy, people. Stop letting them rob you blind for even just your manabase
Old boxes have been mapped, you just have to open a couple and you can know the rares for all the packs. Also revised pack are extremely easy to search because they are very transparent.
Never ever buy individual old packs, except from maybe trustworthy sources. Chances are they have been tampered with.
@@ChiralWolf the box was originally sealed, revised pack was in the box sealed
I think the novelty of getting random packs for the sake of getting random packs from at any point would be fun! Though this doesn't sound like its doing it right.
I know in a couple of my game stores around here, they would do these specials where they would put a bunch of cards together (like 150-ish, no basic lands) in a box or a brown lunch bag and a couple of packs (with a chance of getting another) of whatever set was the standard and selling them for like $10 or $15. I figured it was them offloading a bunch of older cards, but occasionally there'd be a basic land card that would have like a security stamp marking it with a promise of a discount or a free pack if we brought it back - which was honored, and it felt great!
As someone who came back in at the end of M20, its great to see opportunity to get some of the more obscure cards from the past, but i wouldn't pay that much for this "random" box lol
Hey TCC,. I find this selling tactic very predatory and I hate that they can get away with it. However, having done a tiny bit of research on Card Kingdom, to buy all the booster packs that you got, plus each of the promos you got (except the damaged one), you would have to pay $338.95+shipping. If you got all these for $30 each, that means that customers are actually getting, on average, more value out of them than they put in.
Now, this doesn't completely vindicate the company. They sell you the dream of pulling a pack worth hundreds of dollars and then give you a pack worth $10 and and handful worth $3-$7. Booster packs are a bad way of getting singles, and because of the lack of variety you can't even really do a chaos draft off of a few of these. Furthermore, they are doing this to liquidate back-stock, and so one would expect to be getting a great deal.
However, given that even the boxes without two Time Spiral Remastered packs in them represent a cheaper way of buying the packs you get than buying those packs individually, do you not think it is harsh to call this a scam? It is obviously predatory and misleading, but at least you aren't spending $30+ on like $10 worth of back-stock, like some of the trash "mystery" products you review here.
I can understand the above sentiment, but the Professor is already a huge proponent of buying singles, as packs will almost never give you what you're actively looking for, add in that these are randomized boosters and the only thing this could possibly appeal to is Chaos draft. Yes, buying the boosters might be more on Card kingdom (Who lets be honest, have lower prices than a lot of LGS), but it's impossible to tell what you will get, and the cards inside a VERY unlikely to hold the booster's value.
This is also counting current prices and these boxes will likely only ever lose value in time.
@@devinkerr5474 I 100% agree with this and think that for almost all magic players, these boxes are a waste of money. My point was that it seems harsh to chuck these in with all the scam ones that charge 2-3 times more than the value of what's inside, given that these actually give you your value for money, even if it's still a bad product.
Thanks for taking one for the team Prof!
The intro reminded me of the WKUK "kill the president" skit, nice job prof!
Many Worlds turned out to be a little cheaper than Top of the Morning, but still the 2nd most expensive bag of coffe I've ever bought. Can't wait to try it!
I love the new music choice! Fits your channel very well in my opinion!
Professor, you got better time spiral remastered pulls on those 12 packs than I got in my whole box
"Get ready for an ad." Lol Take my like sir, well deserved.
I love this so much! Best INTRO EVER!!!!! What a great use and representation of our corporations and our legal system... BRAVA
I don't play Magic anymore but I still enjoy your videos - a reminder that good people exist, still.
Coffee and a video from the Professor! Awesome!
Well I made my order for some coffee, thanks for the continually great videos! Can't wait to get my hands on some of those Etali Primal Storms LOL.
I found your personal plea compelling, and thus did not skip your advertisement.
that was the most variety I have seen in the "promos" on any channel combined! if you can call lands promo. I went in on only 1 and that was really out of curiosity to see if the promos in MN would be Etali as well. they were
These packs are worth it. I have personally purchased 4, and in different states. All contents are out-of-standard rotation and are around 5 dollars per pack at the LGS. Each one of my packs had one TSR pack. Total value of each pack exceeded 29.99. Two of my four packs had a Masers 25 pack inside. I chaos draft weekly (each player uses 3 draft packs that are different from each other). These were an awesome find. I trust this product more than buying an assortment of packs from a TCGplayer vendor that may or may not have "searched" the box before selling the rest of the packs.
Accidentally one of the best opening videos. :D
This intro has so much WKYK energy...I love it
I make sure to watch the ads and not skip them because I need to support this great content
I've never had or even heard of dry processed coffee before, so I figured that I better give that a try. Ordered some Dragon's Nest and had to pick up a bag of the homely house as well. Well sold, Professor, well sold. I hope they sponsor you again.
I'd love to see the data on opening like 100 of these. Oh and you could bring a scale with you to the store and know which boxes have multiple time spiral remastered vs the ones with 1 due to the packaging.
Hi I am a new subscriber, I am new to MGT and have a thirst for knowledge for the cards and the game. I get excited when I start to understand the terminology and the meanings of the cards. The artwork on the cards are just amazing and appealing! I am binge watching all your videos at the moment, they are very helpful and entertaining. Loving your content so much!
Ended up forgetting that I was watching a video about the mystery boxes and just enjoyed the coffee talk
You look fly, Prof! The vest, shirt and tie look great! Love your fashion sense.
To be fair, the packaging does say "randomly inserted chase pack". Pack is singular, so there *might* be one out there somewhere... :)
Someone actually pulled a revised out on UA-cam
i'd buy the playmart Prof is using, I love the lighting and shading it presents to the naked eye.
Thank you, we appreciate your sacrifice
Dang. The box openings were dismal to begin with, but the pack openings at the end of the vid were soul crushing
Hey Prof, as a fellow Chemex connoisseur, the 3 layers of the filter are meant to span the spout portion of the Chemex to help keep the filter from collapsing. If the filter collapses, it can block air from escaping the bottom chamber, resulting in slower draw down and over extracted coffee. This is certainly more relevant for larger brews.
I'm a new player as of a few weeks and your great content has already made me a better player!
Your sheer enthusiasm convinced me to actually grab a bag of coffee, so here's hoping you get to work with them again!
you are awesome. thanks for your efforts toward the community!
That intro was so good I watched it twice!
Thanks 🙏 Prof! I had a blast watching this and having a cup of coffee. I feel that if you had one steamy pile of dog poop and this product next to each other, it would be hard to tell one from the other! Save your money!
Thanks for the treat Prof, I sure am delightfully surprised with the surprising and shocking appearance of time spiral packs
I have been waiting for this one! Thanks prof
I remember actually tweeting out about the MTG power cube and doing a video on it too. Didn't think there was a Mystery Box!~
Give this man a shield.. no wait, a sponsor for coffee! He deserves it.
I live how you can see him get visually angry as the opening progressed
I only recently started playing mtg, but have been watching your videos for quite some time Prof.
Seeing the time spiraled remastered was cool, mainly because I recently did a draft with that set, and had a chance to draft 2 thoughtsieze (1 foil 1 non foil, both in the same pack) it was probably my 4th time playing mtg, and my 3rd draft, and I ended up going 2-1 getting first place with black, splashing a little bit of green.
I finally cracked and bought myself a commander pre-con to start messing with, and I can’t say I regret the decision. I already started upgrading the deck too
I love that mat as the background
the "Your Honor' bit, i love it
I was waiting for this video for TWO WEEKS!
...and I backed the Academic while I was waiting. So hype.
This is the next level. Not opening boosters for random cards but boxes for (random) boosters!
“Hey, look over there!” 😂 oh and I totally get the coffee obsession prof. I hope they sponsor you again too!!
Seeing the Professor this excited about coffee is adorable and gives me hope for the future.
I love your enthusiasm for coffee