I wish Peugeot would get back to building proper GTi cars again. I had 205 GTi (1.6 then 1.9), a 208 GTi, and a 308 GTI. The latter was decent, the others were fantastic. Would love a hot version of the new 208.
Spent 10 days with the regular petrol 508 GT as a courtesy car and can confirm it is a lovely thing. 225bhp, 8 speed auto and all the toys (including nappa leather seats). It steered nicely and rode beautifully, feeling firm yet compliant and very stable. At around £25k less, I think it’s a much better bet, although I saw a PSE on the road the other day and it was an event! Buy one second hand for pennies and have a super-rare left-field future classic.
the 508 is one of my favorite peugeots in recent years. They really nailed it before the PSE and now with it its a really tempting car if i had more money. i would like to point out that the top engine in the jag is now the 300hp 2l petrol engine. They refreshed it recently but i struggle to figure out why they did not shove in the new straight six. i saw figures of over 500hp come by when fitted to a range rover
I really, really like this car (its gorgeous to look at, the interior is cool looking and its just interesting compared to the Germans) but I can see no reason to buy it over an M340i, the Beamer sounds better, has a much better engine, probably a higher quality feel overall, is faster and costs near enough the same. Unless the BMW costs to much to run, its hard to justify the Peugeot (on paper at least)!
I have been an avid Peugeot fan like yourself since we had a 306 from new. It was just so good. I loved the 206, 406 and the 407. I really want this to be really good. Like you say. Support the underdog. 🙂
With that being said though, the looks of this car may be all that I like about it. 20 inch wheels with low profile tires look nice but they're a money pit & they really hamper a comfortable suspension. Powertrain is nothing that would interest me. Interior seems lackluster. Far too expensive. Etc.
Hi james, look for a 308 GTi 270 - for the small car you were looking for - old shape pre 2022. For the Rev counter use the DIALS setting which has a traditional rev counter on the right. Yes the fuel tank is a bit of a pain, but only for a high mileage driver
Peugeot have really nailed the cockpit over the last few years, and their designs are excellent. But you are right about the drivetrain, it just is not one thing or another. The need to look at how their French rivals are working wonders with the hybrid system. The Clio e-tech I hired in France is excellent. Utterly seamless in power delivery and transfer between electric and ICE, and 60mpg to boot.
As a car collector with many performance French cars among others I really wanted it to be good, love the way it looks and the fact Peugeot had the balls to make it. I think in 5 years it will make sense price wise to get one. Until then I will enjoy the likes of my RCZ R or 306 maxi ex world rally car!
@@Storm.Z.4u I beg to differ. I have an ex works 306 maxi in my collection it would destroy most road cars with its performance! The French built some of the best hot hatches too with great performance and drive ability. I even have a remapped French diesel that’s faster than my focus rs. I think a lot of French car fans may disagree with your comment.
I really enjoy your reviews Jay, but I feel you've missed the point on this one in so many ways. Yes, the fuel economy of any performance PHEV is rubbish when you're hooning it on petrol. In practice though, you'll find you do lots of very economical electric journeys, and then the occasional combined one that makes Greta cry. Overall it works out very well (I'm currently 82 mpg from factory). Imagine having a Prius daily and a Golf VR6 for weekends. No-one cares about the 23 mpg from the Golf. Most of these types of PHEV are going to be fleet/company car leases due to the tax breaks (low BIK). So while the cash price of the Peugeot is similar to the BMW M340i, the actual monthly cost is completely different. I think the M340i will be something like 3 times the BIK (lets say £200 vs. £600 for a higher rate tax payer). And that's the point really - you can get a >300bhp monster for less than a 2 litre diesel in real money terms. On that note, the better comparison is the 330e. It's not quite as powerful, but the drivetrain seems to make it quicker round the track (and more rewarding to drive IMHO). It, like the 508, also comes as AWD. Regarding the depreciation, since the BMW holds its value better, it actually seems to be cheaper on the lease. Also, the small fuel tank doesn't really matter - you charge it at home/work every day, so you add in 20-50 miles on that range 20-30 times a month. In practice you'll make fewer stops at the petrol station. Yes, driving from London to Edinburgh in one go will require an extra fuel stop - but being honest, you were going to stop anyway.
I'm not into hybrid especially plug ins, I wish it had 355HP with a 1.8 or 2L petrol engine and it had a manual option too. I also love big fuel tanks like the peugot 406, I think it's nearly at 80L because a full tank gets me return trips for some long journeys like Nairobi to Mombasa and back or Nairobi to Eldoret and back. These are easily 800-1200km journeys.
If you can get your hands on a Peugeot e208, you might be pleasantly surprised. Good fun to drive, nippy and probably the closest thing Peugeot has to a hot hatch currently.
Jay, i say onevof these on the car recently and almost ended up following it, it looks soooo good! My first car was a 205 van and my dad had a 505. I'd by the diesel version if I'm allowed to say that these days..🥴
Really interesting and insightful review. Thank you :) Great looking car, personally I like the colour (though I wonder how well it will age). Seems to almost have everything, shame about the drawbacks, but still worth a look. I have seen one exactly like this once, and it looked genuinely outstanding, a real head turner.
Stunning car! Left field choice James, but a review of the Peugeot 408 GT 1.2 Puretech would be fantastic. One overtook me the other day and I loved the look of it. I’d appreciate your opinion
I'm no motoring journo, but there does seem to be much picking of the nit here. It looks amazing It goes and stops well It handles well It has all the toys other manufacturers charge thousands in extras for It's well priced Go and buy one!
Just taken delivery of rhe SW fior my new company car. Here in UK the BIK tax makes this a good option. Half the tax of my old Arteon and about a third of tax compared to S4 or 340i. The Selenium grey has so.e metallic in it. I really like the colour appears to change as the day goes on. I'm getting over 400 miles on full tank. Need to use the esave and Sat Nav to ensure everything is optimised. I couldn't be happier. Car is a real head Turner. Only 150 in the UK and that's fastback and SW so very rare sight. Great on long journeys but rapid point to point when you need it
Shame for the boring colours. Would be nice if there was just pure petrol or electric version. Not a fan of touch screen for HVAC. Nice video. Keep up the good work.
You can already get ex-demonstrator versions of these for £40k. These will represent amazing value for money in a couple of years time when you can pick one up for £20k!
When they announced this, I thought it would be my perfect car. I like Peugeots, it looks stunning both inside and out, it's plenty quick, cheap to run and it's got a bit of weirdness that a French car needs. The lack of a proper manual mode would annoy me- if it's like other 508s I believe there is a manual mode, but you can't use it in sport mode. The range would be an issue too, although I can't imagine it really only gets low 30s on a run since people claim that for my 981CS and I get 47-48 consistently (then 20 when not on a run 😄). I'm definitely still going to be looking at one of these as well as the Volvo, not for my next car but the one after, if I can get a charging point installed.
@@moa-wg3bo Rivals with equivalent spec and performance cost more though. It depreciates a lot (although so do rivals) so as a used buyer I reckon these could be bargains at 3-4 years old.
I'm not huge on the save the wagons thing, because I think they're dying for demographic reasons, but I'm glad Peugeot made this car. Wish the new 208 got the PSE treatment, but, with electrification, it seems unlikely.
Is the engine the 1.6 THP? If so, then it has pedigree to some degree. It's rather common in sporty Citroëns and Peugeots of the near past, and was the base for Citroën's WRC car engines since the DS3 WRC (notably driven by Loeb) up to today with the Rally2-spec C3 (if I'm not mistaken).
Pretty sure it is yes, the Prince engine. I also wonder if it's forged like the 308 GTi. Guessing not but if so perhaps it's possible to chip the thing up to the performance of that thing- then it'd really be fast 😁 Either way definitely a great engine.
I adore the look of 508. It must go down as one of the best looking cars of this decade although I feel in this version it looks a little less elegant than the GT trim base cars. The only problem it has, if you want a hybrid, is that v60 which looks beautiful, is faster and has that incredible tunable suspension which apparently is a masterpiece. The new 308 has a blue interior which is to die for. If this 508 had it, I wouldn't care if the car did 1 mile to the gallon, I'd love it in my driveway.
@@davidreynolds3082 Nah, no good in the UK. Traffic keeps speeding up and slowing down. Breaking disengages cruise control. Speed limiter is much more useful here.
56k. Shocks me. Even as a car trader. But then every new car pretty much does. This will have terrible. Shocking. Bad. Residuals. As was addressed fittingly James as chances holding money versus competition being low to no chance . I literally cannot see a reason to buy this higher performance version. It’s such a good looker the 508, buy a slower one in black make sure it’s a Petrol be suitably apt. Then the 508sw makes total sense. She’s a great looker I accept anyone who buys one over the Germans
That engine is the same 1.6 litre engine from the mini cooper s r56, just bit more modern . Its also used in peugeot like the 308 gti , 208 gti and more
Thanks J, a 'quirky' French car still, but not necessarily in good ways. Good looking, but black, white & grey odd 'colour' choices to show it to best advantage! 🙏
Good review as always Jay. 👍. Noted your Peugeot fuel economy quote of 32/33mpg. My 2013 Audi S6 with the 4.0TT V8 betters that with about 34 mpg on a freeway/highway run. Urban running is another story though!
Biggest flaw is indeed the lack of 100% control. If the gearbox had a manual option and the power train a "full power" or "quali lap" thing would be so much better. And when you think about it. It's just damn software.
Don't see many from this model range on the road. I followed a saloon (coupe?) on the A406 and on the road, the rear and rear 3/4 looks really good with those lights.
I think it's great that Peugeot decided to make another Peugeot sport car in their best looking car but it just doesn't quite deliver, a bit expensive for what it is and the colours is extremely disappointing. The stock 508 has some very beautiful colours but this is just grey primer and boring black and white.
Yeah it feels a bit hypocritical of Peugeot when their ads have a child asking their parents why all cars are either Black, Silver or White, and then they boast about how with Peugeots you get more vibrant colors, and you have to pay extra for those 3. The red, yellow and blue are all great colors for the 508 and the dark green for the new 308 looks extremely good, shame that the PSE kinda missed all the good things about modern Peugeots.
Let’s hope Stellantis use some of their technology sympathetically to produce a small Alfa that will be as close to a Giulietta replacement as possible, I don’t mean the Tonale which is still too big. You never know but James might actually like it ! They do seem to have got this Peugeot right.
If you really like a good Peugeot estate. I thoroughly recommend that you check out another variation of the 508 but be warned they are incredibly rare. I am talking about the Peugeot 508 RXH. Very different from a normal Peugeot 508 SW.
Styling does it for me. Ride comfort is ok, but the sporty drive is beyond what you think, this car is able to carry its almost 2 tons suprisingly fast. Not as fast as golf R or GTI clubsport, but it is really capable. Brakes have great feel and stopping distance is great. Small steering wheel is not great for me. I am not quite comfortable with seating position and small steering wheel. I preferet a little bigger diameter round steering wheels that is not too thick or thin. These seats are not very breathable and they could use ventilation. Headlights are not matrix. Night vision function is good thing and it is not a gimmick. Car is expensive for what it does. Only usable option for companies or heavily taxed regions. 5/10 for consumer. 8/10 for companies in EU.
I do like the 508 and considered this briefly against a volvo V60 T6 recharge. They are about the same price with simular equipment. The PSE is to sporty for me, so I ordered a V60 with 350hp. I wanted fast, but not to sporty. And on the positive site: the volvo has a bigger fueltank and a bigger battery. Since it is a company car, it neede to have less than 50gr/CO2.
I can't see that a 300 miles petrol range is a problem. We're meant to think that 300 miles is great for an electric car and they take 1/2 an hour to charge, (if you can find a charger). This car takes 5 minutes max to fill up with petrol. By the way, I drive a 3008 hybrid and if the battery is fully charged, in hybrid mode, I can driver for a couple of hours before the battery is flat. Just remember to use B on the gear selector (generation braking). You have to do a lot of long distance driving before the electric motors are a burden not an asset. This car won't be quite as good as that, because of the extra power, but it is fast and can still go to the shops electrically.
Working for a Pug dealer,we found as long as run on PREMIUM unleaded being a GDi engine,and serviced regularly with the correct 0w/30 oil,most of the major issues with this engine were negated.Still the combined coolant temp sensor/thermostat used to give issues though.But weirdly the higher the engine power output the more reliable they appeared to be....
...while driving it hard down country lanes... what's the 340i getting when you do this? 28? 23? Most journeys on hybrid are 50+mpg, and you do so many electric only journeys over a year that you'll easily be hitting 70-80mpg average. Think of it as being two cars in the garage. One Prius (slightly worse fuel economy but bigger) and a BMW 340i (a but little bit heavier). One for the daily, one for fun... Also, the instant acceleration from the electric followed by the winding up of the turbo lump is pretty sweet.
We need more good looking estates like this. Let the SUV craze die down already!
Absolutely love these things, peugeots current styling is really doing it for me.
I just love this french car. It's so beautiful. And I have a V6 VW Passat, but I would like to swap just to this one
Have you got a mullet hair style as well
Too much estrogen in your system.
I wish Peugeot would get back to building proper GTi cars again. I had 205 GTi (1.6 then 1.9), a 208 GTi, and a 308 GTI. The latter was decent, the others were fantastic. Would love a hot version of the new 208.
Spent 10 days with the regular petrol 508 GT as a courtesy car and can confirm it is a lovely thing. 225bhp, 8 speed auto and all the toys (including nappa leather seats). It steered nicely and rode beautifully, feeling firm yet compliant and very stable. At around £25k less, I think it’s a much better bet, although I saw a PSE on the road the other day and it was an event! Buy one second hand for pennies and have a super-rare left-field future classic.
Real car talk not zooming round a race track at 200 mph like Top Gear thank God 🙏
Great comment
the 508 is one of my favorite peugeots in recent years. They really nailed it before the PSE and now with it its a really tempting car if i had more money.
i would like to point out that the top engine in the jag is now the 300hp 2l petrol engine. They refreshed it recently but i struggle to figure out why they did not shove in the new straight six. i saw figures of over 500hp come by when fitted to a range rover
I had a 508SW for a while. The 180hp petrol. Fabulous car. Much much much better build quality than the VW Touareg that replaced it.
Peugeots current design language is beautiful
I really, really like this car (its gorgeous to look at, the interior is cool looking and its just interesting compared to the Germans) but I can see no reason to buy it over an M340i, the Beamer sounds better, has a much better engine, probably a higher quality feel overall, is faster and costs near enough the same. Unless the BMW costs to much to run, its hard to justify the Peugeot (on paper at least)!
It's true. When you drive a 340i, at least you're not driving a Peugeot. But unfortunately you're still gonna have to drive a BMW.
@@JayMaverick how’s that unfortunate?
The 508 seems great but you also have to factor in the (likely) low resale value down the line
You buy it because it's different.
Plus with the BMW your neighbours will think you're a better human being.
My dad has had his PSE about a month now and he absolutely loves it
The 508 is a great looking car, much more interesting than the German alternatives
Its actually rubish
how to say you know fuck all about cars without actually saying it .
well done
Agreed
@snbala Yep, I would love to meet someone who buys a Passat or some other German yawn box over this
I have been an avid Peugeot fan like yourself since we had a 306 from new. It was just so good. I loved the 206, 406 and the 407. I really want this to be really good. Like you say. Support the underdog. 🙂
You set a very low bar
Nobody can accuse you of being one track minded!
Loads of these in France and Spain and they look stunning on the road.
Honestly this is the Peugeot that really looks damn good
I've never been much a fan of station wagons but this car is beautiful. Love the dark grey too!
With that being said though, the looks of this car may be all that I like about it. 20 inch wheels with low profile tires look nice but they're a money pit & they really hamper a comfortable suspension. Powertrain is nothing that would interest me. Interior seems lackluster. Far too expensive. Etc.
I cant believe how good it looks. Holy cow, its amazing
Good lord that looks great. The proportions are perfect.
Hi james, look for a 308 GTi 270 - for the small car you were looking for - old shape pre 2022. For the Rev counter use the DIALS setting which has a traditional rev counter on the right. Yes the fuel tank is a bit of a pain, but only for a high mileage driver
I am extremely surprised I LOVE the sound of it 😳
I wish we had these in the states
Peugeot have really nailed the cockpit over the last few years, and their designs are excellent. But you are right about the drivetrain, it just is not one thing or another. The need to look at how their French rivals are working wonders with the hybrid system. The Clio e-tech I hired in France is excellent. Utterly seamless in power delivery and transfer between electric and ICE, and 60mpg to boot.
Love the look of this, beautiful shape to it
As a car collector with many performance French cars among others I really wanted it to be good, love the way it looks and the fact Peugeot had the balls to make it. I think in 5 years it will make sense price wise to get one. Until then I will enjoy the likes of my RCZ R or 306 maxi ex world rally car!
Performance andFrench are words that should never be in the same sentence
@@Storm.Z.4u I beg to differ. I have an ex works 306 maxi in my collection it would destroy most road cars with its performance! The French built some of the best hot hatches too with great performance and drive ability. I even have a remapped French diesel that’s faster than my focus rs. I think a lot of French car fans may disagree with your comment.
@@Storm.Z.4u Renault F1 now alpine. Citroen in WRC (basically the best team by far of the 2000s.
@@Storm.Z.4u 205 Rallye?
Great video! Such a beautiful estate.
I'd love to have listened in on the meeting where they decided THIS is the "colour" of their performance line.
Looks very good IRL
Just seen one on the road the other day, never drooled over a estate in a long long time
Such a good looking car with a surprisingly nice stance
I really enjoy your reviews Jay, but I feel you've missed the point on this one in so many ways.
Yes, the fuel economy of any performance PHEV is rubbish when you're hooning it on petrol. In practice though, you'll find you do lots of very economical electric journeys, and then the occasional combined one that makes Greta cry. Overall it works out very well (I'm currently 82 mpg from factory). Imagine having a Prius daily and a Golf VR6 for weekends. No-one cares about the 23 mpg from the Golf.
Most of these types of PHEV are going to be fleet/company car leases due to the tax breaks (low BIK). So while the cash price of the Peugeot is similar to the BMW M340i, the actual monthly cost is completely different. I think the M340i will be something like 3 times the BIK (lets say £200 vs. £600 for a higher rate tax payer). And that's the point really - you can get a >300bhp monster for less than a 2 litre diesel in real money terms.
On that note, the better comparison is the 330e. It's not quite as powerful, but the drivetrain seems to make it quicker round the track (and more rewarding to drive IMHO). It, like the 508, also comes as AWD. Regarding the depreciation, since the BMW holds its value better, it actually seems to be cheaper on the lease.
Also, the small fuel tank doesn't really matter - you charge it at home/work every day, so you add in 20-50 miles on that range 20-30 times a month. In practice you'll make fewer stops at the petrol station. Yes, driving from London to Edinburgh in one go will require an extra fuel stop - but being honest, you were going to stop anyway.
You've made lots and lots of excuses for buying the wrong car.
@@tastypymp1287 What car have I bought?
@@zxspeccy48k I've already told you....
@@tastypymp1287 Enjoy the Ripspeed winter catalogue...
Eternal shiny and chrome.
Probably the nicest peugeot that
I'm not into hybrid especially plug ins, I wish it had 355HP with a 1.8 or 2L petrol engine and it had a manual option too. I also love big fuel tanks like the peugot 406, I think it's nearly at 80L because a full tank gets me return trips for some long journeys like Nairobi to Mombasa and back or Nairobi to Eldoret and back. These are easily 800-1200km journeys.
Peugeot is doing the design much better than say the current Renault lineup.
If you can get your hands on a Peugeot e208, you might be pleasantly surprised. Good fun to drive, nippy and probably the closest thing Peugeot has to a hot hatch currently.
saw one of these EXACTLY like this when i went to arran couple days ago, looked absolutely brilliant
You were in the parking spot earlier, that's how I know you!
Jay, i say onevof these on the car recently and almost ended up following it, it looks soooo good!
My first car was a 205 van and my dad had a 505.
I'd by the diesel version if I'm allowed to say that these days..🥴
Do not understand how you don’t have more subs. Have you tried setting another channel with reaction videos. That work for LLF. Love the channel
Really interesting and insightful review. Thank you :)
Great looking car, personally I like the colour (though I wonder how well it will age). Seems to almost have everything, shame about the drawbacks, but still worth a look. I have seen one exactly like this once, and it looked genuinely outstanding, a real head turner.
Stunning car! Left field choice James, but a review of the Peugeot 408 GT 1.2 Puretech would be fantastic. One overtook me the other day and I loved the look of it. I’d appreciate your opinion
I'm no motoring journo, but there does seem to be much picking of the nit here.
It looks amazing
It goes and stops well
It handles well
It has all the toys other manufacturers charge thousands in extras for
It's well priced
Go and buy one!
£55K is not well priced.
same price M340i is better even tho in plugin hybrid terms 330e is more comparable, but BMW is a BMW
It’s pretty clear why you are not a motoring journo.
@@lecco666 I agree but my opinion is mine and I don't care whether you agree or not
@@sriharidesai7606 not all BMW'S are equal. Particularly the PHEVs.
I know it’s a press car with alot of drivers, but that drivers seat bolster looks like it’s done 50-odd thousand miles not the sub 15k on the odo
Never thought that one day I would find peugeots or citroens pretty but here we are
I don't think they've ditched the styling too much, the front grill and head lights still goes back to the old 99/00 406 slightly.
Just taken delivery of rhe SW fior my new company car. Here in UK the BIK tax makes this a good option. Half the tax of my old Arteon and about a third of tax compared to S4 or 340i. The Selenium grey has so.e metallic in it. I really like the colour appears to change as the day goes on. I'm getting over 400 miles on full tank. Need to use the esave and Sat Nav to ensure everything is optimised. I couldn't be happier. Car is a real head Turner. Only 150 in the UK and that's fastback and SW so very rare sight. Great on long journeys but rapid point to point when you need it
Shame for the boring colours. Would be nice if there was just pure petrol or electric version. Not a fan of touch screen for HVAC. Nice video. Keep up the good work.
Nice looking Car!!
This is a shaggin' wagon if I've ever seen one, gotta love dem French.
You can already get ex-demonstrator versions of these for £40k. These will represent amazing value for money in a couple of years time when you can pick one up for £20k!
When they announced this, I thought it would be my perfect car. I like Peugeots, it looks stunning both inside and out, it's plenty quick, cheap to run and it's got a bit of weirdness that a French car needs. The lack of a proper manual mode would annoy me- if it's like other 508s I believe there is a manual mode, but you can't use it in sport mode. The range would be an issue too, although I can't imagine it really only gets low 30s on a run since people claim that for my 981CS and I get 47-48 consistently (then 20 when not on a run 😄).
I'm definitely still going to be looking at one of these as well as the Volvo, not for my next car but the one after, if I can get a charging point installed.
@@moa-wg3bo Rivals with equivalent spec and performance cost more though. It depreciates a lot (although so do rivals) so as a used buyer I reckon these could be bargains at 3-4 years old.
Really good review more like this please
Such a shame the Peugeot stopped making enthusiast cars the last was the 308 gti. Peugeot we need more gti versions of your cars.
People didn't want to buy them as they were shit.
@@Storm.Z.4u 😂 that's your unfounded opinion Peugeot troll
I'm not huge on the save the wagons thing, because I think they're dying for demographic reasons, but I'm glad Peugeot made this car.
Wish the new 208 got the PSE treatment, but, with electrification, it seems unlikely.
I like this alot, but I live in the states and we don't get anything cool. Love your videos man ✌️
Damn I was gonna hate on Peugeot but man this thing looks sick
As an American, this is a prime example of forbidden fruit!!
Is the engine the 1.6 THP? If so, then it has pedigree to some degree. It's rather common in sporty Citroëns and Peugeots of the near past, and was the base for Citroën's WRC car engines since the DS3 WRC (notably driven by Loeb) up to today with the Rally2-spec C3 (if I'm not mistaken).
Pretty sure it is yes, the Prince engine. I also wonder if it's forged like the 308 GTi. Guessing not but if so perhaps it's possible to chip the thing up to the performance of that thing- then it'd really be fast 😁 Either way definitely a great engine.
That thing has a tidier rear end than the 90's Sun Newspaper's page 3 star, Joanne Guest! :)
I adore the look of 508. It must go down as one of the best looking cars of this decade although I feel in this version it looks a little less elegant than the GT trim base cars. The only problem it has, if you want a hybrid, is that v60 which looks beautiful, is faster and has that incredible tunable suspension which apparently is a masterpiece. The new 308 has a blue interior which is to die for. If this 508 had it, I wouldn't care if the car did 1 mile to the gallon, I'd love it in my driveway.
I was really interested as I used to drive a PSA Hybrid. The problem with is it that it's a spicey meatball at 50 grand.!
9:30 wow the side of the seat is creased up already
The model designation badge on the snout is a crazy move, would be the first thing I'd remove if I had one.
It is a reference to classic P models from the 60s and 70s. I, and 'they', think that oozes design class.
@@fairybuddy-angel2035 so it is, thanks for the info.
I would really love to see a Citroen C4 Vts review I think it’s a great car and there’s little to no content about it
Sporty estates are just cool.
I love the speed limiter on my M3. Super useful in average speed camera areas.
Or just use cruise control set at the right speed ... ;)
@@davidreynolds3082 Nah, no good in the UK. Traffic keeps speeding up and slowing down. Breaking disengages cruise control. Speed limiter is much more useful here.
@@davidreynolds3082 Don't be stupid
@@stevojohn Active cruise control sorts that, perhaps time to upgrade your spec
@@Storm.Z.4u Don't like the G80 and my F80 is low mileage. Can't really see a reason to upgrade right now TBH.
Where was this filmed I’m sure I have been on some of those roads just couldn’t remember the location ?
Which pure electric wagons are you referring to? None exist. Very maybe EV6 qualifies but it's chunky.
Love it. If it had a better EV only range I'd chop my Model 3 in for one.
56k. Shocks me. Even as a car trader. But then every new car pretty much does.
This will have terrible. Shocking. Bad. Residuals. As was addressed fittingly James as chances holding money versus competition being low to no chance .
I literally cannot see a reason to buy this higher performance version. It’s such a good looker the 508, buy a slower one in black make sure it’s a Petrol be suitably apt. Then the 508sw makes total sense. She’s a great looker I accept anyone who buys one over the Germans
A Golf GTI is £40k+ now
So thats where all the unwanted Royal Navy warship paint went 😉
😂😂
Looks great, really do like it. And will even when I order the 340d 🤦♂️
I hope they make a 308 wagon version
That engine is the same 1.6 litre engine from the mini cooper s r56, just bit more modern . Its also used in peugeot like the 308 gti , 208 gti and more
Looks a lot like the Skoda Octavia (VRS) especially in that grey.
Beautiful Peugeot, but the most powerful ever with range anxiety? Oh dear…
Interesting to hear the V60 Polestar is discontinued in Europe considering the Polestar Engineered is the only way to get a V60 in the United States
Thanks J, a 'quirky' French car still, but not necessarily in good ways. Good looking, but black, white & grey odd 'colour' choices to show it to best advantage! 🙏
Its got the Opel insignia windows.
Same door panels and same small wheel. I drive the Buick version.
Good review as always Jay. 👍. Noted your Peugeot fuel economy quote of 32/33mpg. My 2013 Audi S6 with the 4.0TT V8 betters that with about 34 mpg on a freeway/highway run. Urban running is another story though!
Biggest flaw is indeed the lack of 100% control. If the gearbox had a manual option and the power train a "full power" or "quali lap" thing would be so much better.
And when you think about it. It's just damn software.
Don't see many from this model range on the road. I followed a saloon (coupe?) on the A406 and on the road, the rear and rear 3/4 looks really good with those lights.
Absolutely hate this trend for flat grey undercoat colours on cars
I think it's great that Peugeot decided to make another Peugeot sport car in their best looking car but it just doesn't quite deliver, a bit expensive for what it is and the colours is extremely disappointing. The stock 508 has some very beautiful colours but this is just grey primer and boring black and white.
Yeah it feels a bit hypocritical of Peugeot when their ads have a child asking their parents why all cars are either Black, Silver or White, and then they boast about how with Peugeots you get more vibrant colors, and you have to pay extra for those 3. The red, yellow and blue are all great colors for the 508 and the dark green for the new 308 looks extremely good, shame that the PSE kinda missed all the good things about modern Peugeots.
Let’s hope Stellantis use some of their technology sympathetically to produce a small Alfa that will be as close to a Giulietta replacement as possible,
I don’t mean the Tonale which is still too big. You never know but James might actually like it ! They do seem to have got this Peugeot right.
James, maybe it should be considered as a training rig for future Ferrari owners.
I think it has a slight resemblance to the Alfa 159 estate, and I like that
If you really like a good Peugeot estate.
I thoroughly recommend that you check out another variation of the 508 but be warned they are incredibly rare.
I am talking about the Peugeot 508 RXH.
Very different from a normal Peugeot 508 SW.
Styling does it for me.
Ride comfort is ok, but the sporty drive is beyond what you think, this car is able to carry its almost 2 tons suprisingly fast. Not as fast as golf R or GTI clubsport, but it is really capable.
Brakes have great feel and stopping distance is great.
Small steering wheel is not great for me. I am not quite comfortable with seating position and small steering wheel. I preferet a little bigger diameter round steering wheels that is not too thick or thin.
These seats are not very breathable and they could use ventilation.
Headlights are not matrix.
Night vision function is good thing and it is not a gimmick.
Car is expensive for what it does.
Only usable option for companies or heavily taxed regions.
5/10 for consumer.
8/10 for companies in EU.
Looks great! However, I would instantly remove the 508 badge on the bonnet… why? 😬
They put the same 1.6 turbo in the previous gen 308 GTI. Has 270 ps. Not sure if they do it with the auto box though.
Love estates. None of that climbing up into an suv.
I do like the 508 and considered this briefly against a volvo V60 T6 recharge. They are about the same price with simular equipment. The PSE is to sporty for me, so I ordered a V60 with 350hp. I wanted fast, but not to sporty. And on the positive site: the volvo has a bigger fueltank and a bigger battery. Since it is a company car, it neede to have less than 50gr/CO2.
300 miles between fillups - Range anxiety - Can't even consider it now
If you hold the temp up button does it light a fire?
Did you get this car before it went through the paint shop ?
I can't see that a 300 miles petrol range is a problem. We're meant to think that 300 miles is great for an electric car and they take 1/2 an hour to charge, (if you can find a charger). This car takes 5 minutes max to fill up with petrol. By the way, I drive a 3008 hybrid and if the battery is fully charged, in hybrid mode, I can driver for a couple of hours before the battery is flat. Just remember to use B on the gear selector (generation braking). You have to do a lot of long distance driving before the electric motors are a burden not an asset. This car won't be quite as good as that, because of the extra power, but it is fast and can still go to the shops electrically.
I bet they love this in Ireland
I’d love one of these - perfect for what I need but Peugeot in NZ only sells the normal petrol only model.
Hope they have sorted that 1.6 prince engine by now.
Jesus 😳 it’s not the PRINCE engine is it?? I think they have sorted it by now, but I still wouldn’t touch one 😂
Working for a Pug dealer,we found as long as run on PREMIUM unleaded being a GDi engine,and serviced regularly with the correct 0w/30 oil,most of the major issues with this engine were negated.Still the combined coolant temp sensor/thermostat used to give issues though.But weirdly the higher the engine power output the more reliable they appeared to be....
I really like the look of this car and I’m a massive fan of fast wagons … but
1.6 turbo hybrid and 35-40 MPG .. 52K ? 😕
...while driving it hard down country lanes... what's the 340i getting when you do this? 28? 23?
Most journeys on hybrid are 50+mpg, and you do so many electric only journeys over a year that you'll easily be hitting 70-80mpg average. Think of it as being two cars in the garage. One Prius (slightly worse fuel economy but bigger) and a BMW 340i (a but little bit heavier). One for the daily, one for fun...
Also, the instant acceleration from the electric followed by the winding up of the turbo lump is pretty sweet.
I agree pricey for what you get! Bmw offer a diesel, hybrid & full on petrol to cover all bases
What does this Car handle like compared to the Jag specifically the estate and the German counterparts ?