This killer is very reminiscent of Jeffrey Dahmer, in that he killed lovers so they wouldn’t leave, and kept their bodies around for company. Active around the same time, different countries. So strange.
I feel bad for the friend. He seems like he was tryna be a good guy, he knew he was kinda weird but didn’t know enough about the heinous crimes his friend was committing. I hope him and the surviving victims are all in better places now.
"Do you want to see your grandfather?" "Yes." *long box on table* "There's grandpa." The trauma that would have caused someone is crazy. That was such a mean thing to do.
I was very close to my grandpa growing up. He stepped in after my father kicked me and my mom out after almost beating her to death when I was a year old. Never paid child support. My brothers and I grew up very poor even though my mom worked two jobs. My grandpa was that fatherly figure I never had, buying me school supplies and food for the house. Taking me on trips to escape my reality and struggles. I was waiting on him to pick me up one day to go on our monthly trips to his cabin, when I got the call that he had passed away and the next I saw him was at his funeral. I was young and had no way of understanding how one day he was here and the next he was gone. I'll never forget when my aunt made me walk up to his coffin and kiss him goodbye.. that feeling of cold on your lips stays with you forever. I once again felt abandoned and was confused about what I did wrong to push those I loved away. As I got older I came to learn that my grandpa had terminal cancer and wanted to protect us grandchildren by not telling us. Everyone needs time to prepare that kind of lose so they're not confused and blame themselves.
My parents never took me and my brother to funerals as kids as they thought it would've been distressing. I went to my grandads funeral when I was 12 but I was there for his death at hospital.
Sadly he died in 2014 after falling into a diabetic coma 💔 He suffered from flashbacks from that day and used to call his family saying that someone had tried to kill him. They thought he was just drunk and making up stories, and at one point even disconnected their phone lines. Then a detective was informed about it by a nurse whose husband was a PC. The detective revealed to Carl that the nightmares were real and really did happen to him 😭😞 I think he must have been suffering from PTSD 😕
I used to work with a bloke who lived next door to Nilsen. He said he often used to wonder why Mr Nilsen was outside having a bonfire of his clothes at three in the morning. Said he was, otherwise, fairly normal in his habits.......
I met Dennis Andrew Nilsen in Brisbane Australia in 1973 .. after walking home from work at the Evans Deaken Shipyard at Kangaroo Point, I got to the Brunswick HotelJPG in the Brisbane suburb of New Farm at around 4:20 that afternoon. The pub was fairly crowded, there were some ppl I knew including an Englishman from London who had done a bit of time, who was in company with DAN who he introed as a former London policeman. I said "you were a Bobby then" and asked if they had known each other in Blighty, they said they had not .. I had seen video interviews and photos of Dennis Andrew Nilsen over a period of yrs, without ever recognizing him until I realized he was the man in a UA-cam thumbnailJPG. He looked to be aged about halfway between the clean shaven, dark eyed dichotomization shotJPG taken during his military service, and the Murderpedia shotJPG shows him in a collar and tie. He told me he had served in the British Army in Aden and said he was into underground gladiatorial contests, whether as an observer or as a participant he never made clear .. he was a fairly big strong boned type and gave the impression escaping his clutches would be difficult. I did not much like the way he looked at me as though I were a slab of meat, and it was because of that and because of the shady rep of his companion, I departed the pub a short time later I guess the period was after Nilson left the Metropolitan Police in 1973, and before he took up employment with the Civil Service in 1974. The person in the pub with Dennis Nilsen was a below average height fellow named Peter, who was working as a painter who I had met in the pub a few times before. He was a fairly good humored type who said he had a hard time in prison because of his English accent, which to the other crims sounded like the screws who were mostly Englishmen. The day he was with Dennis Nilson was a Friday, when I went back into the pub the following Tuesday he was there without Nilson, when I suggested he join me he was rude .. I drank my drink and got out of the place like I had on the previous occasion, I never saw him again. Two days later on the Thursday came a news report a man's body had been found in his New Farm flat, I immediately thought of Peter the rude English painter, as well I surmised he had become a victim of his friend Dennis Nilson. The police never launched an investigation, eventually assuring the public that since there were no signs of forced entry, and no suspicious marks on the deceased's body it was a natural death .. the day I met Dennis Nilson in the pub he came right up close. I knew he was an ex London Policeman he looked very strong and his profile suggested he was gonna place me in a policeman's arm lockJPG, which is a wrestling move that can quickly be turned into a sleeper holdJPG, which will cause death if held for long enough by an experienced assailant. Suppose he killed his man in Brisbane in 1973 and the rest of his victims by the same method.
*Part 2* - After running into Peter the Painter in the pub on the Tuesday afternoon following meeting Nilsen in his company the Friday before, sometime around 6:20 am the following Wednesday morning when I left the digs I was in at the lower end of the New Farm peninsular in Brisbane there was a bus coming. Since the fare to where I had to get off then walk across the Story Bridge to work at the Evans Deaken shipyard was only 10 cents I went aboard, despite it was the wrong bus which went the long way 'round, thus very shortly I realized I could have walked the distance as usually did in less time .. no matter. When the bus turned back onto Brunswick Street and proceeded to the next stop outside the NF Police Station looking out the front window of the bus, I saw DAN walk out from Terrace Street where PtP lived and head across Brunswick Street to the next bus stop near the pub, I was in the standing section of the bus which was by then almost full. DAN got on at the bus stop and proceeded to the same standing section of the bus .. he recognized me and I asked him if "he had stayed at Peter's place" he said "no," I said "did you get a flat up there" he said no to that as well .. that Peter's body had been discovered inside his Terrace Street flat was on the evening news the next day. MapPNG. It was initially reported as murder, however on the evening news Friday came a statement it was a natural death. According to pub scuttlebutt Peter's neighbors knew Nilsen had been visiting and was present in the flat with him on the Tuesday night, they heard a quantity of thumping and banging and were aware Nilsen had left the flat alone on the Wednesday morning, and that there had been only silence since. It was they who notified the police who entered the flat and found the body .. Queensland has a long history of stymied police investigations they let him get away with it, the ppl in the district were up in arms when Nilson was not arrested! Dennis Andrew Nilsen is not the only one I recognized off of a YT thumbnailJPG, in Nimbin, New South Wales in about 2009 I purchased some marijuana from a dude who introed himself as Israel Keyes, the bag I bought at cost had a stone in it to make up the weight. He is thought responsible for as many as eleven murders in the US, and fits the bill for a double murder at an isolated farmhouse in Northern NSW at around the same time, he committed suicide in prison in Anchorage Alaska Dec. 2012 while awaiting trial for murder.
For those of you interested in this case, I make a suggestion to read, if you haven't already, Brian Masters' Killing For Company... a very well written account of Nilsens history up to and including the murders. It's a brilliant read....a real page turner as they say.
A soldier recently said "for all the killings I did abroad I got highly decorated, would I do the same at home I would be a serial killer and locked away for life".
@@marygoff3332 There is a clear difference. If you cannot see it I'm very sorry for you. .Ok I will give it a shot. 1. A soldier has been ordered and may I add an individual who puts there life on the line to protect the freedom of people like you. 2 Purpose to protect your freedoms to be a fool. 3. It's certain that they may kill to protect your dumbass freedom with in 99 percent of cases with no enjoyment and have severe PTSD . A serial killer ...Oh I give up on fools like you. Grow up
I believe he might have been referring to war crimes. Rapes, attacks on civilians, extrajudicial executions...that sort of thing. Soldiers of all nations have been behaving outside of military protocol for as long as war has existed...and if you go back far enough rape and plunder were part of an army's legitimate paycheck...
I went to this flat in 94 as a new estate agent. I waited in the flat for half an hour to a no show. Went back to the office,it was a wind up. No-one ever viewed that flat. Though I knew about the crimes,it didn't click it was THAT Cranley gdns. He asked what I thought about it before I knew,I said " it's very cold seeing the sun hits it most of the day don't really like it" In the 4 years at that job 3 people viewed Cranley gdns..one was a goth,the others were even weirder. Few sinister houses in that area.
I remember all this , I live in Finchley about 1 mile away from his home . I knew people who use to cut down his road to get to Crouch End and mentioned there was a disgusting smell near the top of the road they just thought it was drains or a dead fox
I think, killing for company needs a name in psychology, it seems like a some kind of personality disorder. The problem is that there has been only two among the history of serial killers, the other one was Jeffrey Dahmer. I guess it can simply be called killing for company syndrome.
There are more of them, just not as well known. I listened to a podcast with a well-known profiler, and the question came up related to a current case. He talked about it like it's a known "type" for profilers.
Psycopathy... It's simply the lonliness thing ever. You're sitting on a pebble going through space. It's like astronauts that look down at space and get that wierd feeling. It's that, because you're so lonely and isolated from everything. You see people enjoying their lives. Building connections, having sex and just being funny and down to earth with almost an inability to engage with it fundamentally
@@User-cv2xn learn to spell! If he killed someone you knew you would not say it was immoral!!!! even though not thru!! Get a adult to help you to learn big words.
Because they need a job they're claiming to be experts on body language im yet to see a body language expert stop a crime from happening their full of shit
"one night i woke up to him straddling me with a knife while the room was on fire" "when they said where the bodies were found I knew it was him but I have no clue why I did"
i guess after a certin hour TV got boring so the kids needed a good bon fire do dance around......... How ..............................................ENLGLISH how terribly terribly ENGLISH .
Thank you for the post, personally, I believe a trouble soul comes from a young age, and if his Grandfather died without any family assistance in helping him assimilate, big problems can arise. Sad for all his victims!
Odd the police didn't just kick his flat door down straight away after finding the human remains in his drains, instead of politely waiting for him to come home.
Well its England they are so polite about everything LOL ! I bet the cops would have happily danced a maypole while questioning him at his flat had it not been snowing ha ha ha !
I agree it was about control that he wanted to keep the bodies around. He could move them where he wanted and had their rapt, undivided attention for his expoundings. Whatever he wanted to talk about, they never challenged him or interrupted. Jeffrey Dahmer, on the other hand, kept his bodies because he didn’t want to feel the aloneness when they left.
Brian Masters book 'Killing for company' about Nilson is/was a phenomenal piece of work. Seriously dark but, especially when published. No-one had done such an in-depth look on how such a lunatics mind works. Remember it being utterly horrific but captivating read. Really good writer. Anyway bless you. Takecare
I read this book a long time ago and you are right. I think im gonna have to read it again decades on with the wisdom of age. I was just gonna post my view that he was a born degenerate psychopath and I maintain this with my increasingly conservative leaning towards nature rather than nurture. Its probably the best book on human nature to refresh your viewpoint. Take care
With say Brian Cox narrating. I apologise that I'm now off into a bit of a tangent. He should of stayed as the actor who portrayed Hannibal Lecture in the film Manhunter by a young American director called Micheal Mann. The film was based on Red Dragon. The first instalment of the Hannibal Lecture trilogy. A few year's before the silence of the lamb's. His portrayal of him is Way more sinister and in the role than Tony Hopkins. Not belittling Hopkins. But if you knew AH's career as an actor I really couldn't believe his portrayal. Hammy? But yes. Brilliant. If it isn't a serious historian to scare say an the american audience say. Because my word that book is Dark. What have I just ran on about? I'm just off to get some help hopefully. Um... You Takecare.
Poor David Gallashen (or whatever his name). He just looks like a sweet boy cuddling his puppy and Nilsen is yelling at him. Good for him tho, he got away
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But, don't you see? He, like many other serial killers all over the world was: first,TAUGHT TO KILL IN THE MILITARY AND SECOND, HE WAS A BUTCHER OF ANIMALS FIRST
I have a I have a friend that used to deliver the newspapers to 10 rillington place. we used to joke that he was lucky. colin bennet, dennis nilsen's paperboy.
Not sure about the confession from Hunter-Craig, Nilson was a murderer, renowned for strangulation, yet he stated that he thought he was going to be suffocated, what with a heater and a knife!
So similar to Dahmer and just like Dahmer, police had opportunities but they blew off victim stories because thwy were gay. How many men would be alive if they had taken them seriously?
Thats the UK for you... I live here and the NHS is a mess. Country is a mess. Dont believe the BBC.... People are regularly pulling there own teeth out with pliars
Didn't knew his dad, mom hated him and his grandfather that cared for him died when he was still a child, poor Deniss, life denied him any normal chance in life at the start.
People need to wake up and look at people around them and look at the evidence. Can’t people tell the smell of rotting flesh for Pity’s Sake? It’s a very unique smell.
Every time I hear about how they were brought up saying they had it hard maybe they did but it doesn't make any difference being a serial killer or rapist or pedfiles just like to say not every day man is like that
many people are brought up awful (me included) but we don't become killers cause we have a normal functioning brain with mirror neurons and a frontal lobe
It doesnt matter how many times that plumber went round to fix that toilet we are fixated on this horror story no matter how many Dennis Nilsen docus we have watched bring them forth! 🤔🤔🥴🥴🤣
Flipping their personal things and house. Collecting everything of his as evidence. The question really should be..."why tf do they make these weird home videos?"😂😂
Just like anything, the randomness of human genetics, blended to what happens during your life (such as trauma, head injury, $exual trauma, etc.) can create just about anything you could dream up. The scary part is, that by proving trauma or genetics may have contributed to the murder or whatever, the laws may change someday.
Whatever a child is exposed to up to the age of six will most likely determine what kind of person they are going to turn out to be. I can testify to the fact that that is true because me being born in 1960 in Los Angeles, put me in contact with lots of people, including my own weird family. My oldest brother was born in 1950 was physically abused by my father not sexually, though created a son that would commit a murder, a horrendous murder. My mother did not protect my brother, from my father, but she would show him how to hurt somebody. They picked on him again so she gave him a sharp can opener when he was eight and told him to use it next time which he did so he would end up being raised by the system, starting at the age of eight. Anyways, a whole lot, more madness to that story and many other stories of people I knew that were abused in those days and became the worst of the worst.
this is very true, I saw it with my own son, who is on the spectrum when he was three his father threatened to hit him with his belt for knocking over a laundry basket and refusing to help me put the clothes back in it I stopped it from happening, but the fear of it alone "broke" him [I did not use or allow physical punishment in our home] he was a completely different kid before and after that incident and never fully returned to who he was before it
Is Carl Stotter on something? I’ve seen other clips with him before his ‘makeover’ and he seems like a normal but pretty traumatised guy, as you’d expect… In this doco, he seems to have had a good dose of something spacey and dramatic ?? Long term effects of always being ‘the guy that’s always interviewed, the one that got away’ ??
Shame on the mother for not being more tactful, knowing he idolised his grandfather being the only male in his life. Definetly a British Jeffrey Dahmer.
People are disassociating around us at an alarming rate. Be aware of your surroundings. Anymore, no one is anything even remotely as they seem. Tennant did a hell of a job. Accurate. Thank you.
In the same way a person can't help their sexual proclivity, this guy was driven by his urges and once he'd acted on them he wanted to relive the experience again and again. Most people would stop before it got out of hand but Nielson didn't, be that through a mad accident to start with or he just indulged his fantasy to its ultimate conclusion. We like to think a person like this is pure evil but in reality that preditary instinct is part of what makes us human. We saw the same thing with nazi death squads during the war. Thats what makes a case like Nielson so horrifying..
Makes ya wonder if the police did something about the one's that survived the others may still be alive instead of blaming them for a bondage game. That's shocking as far as I see it. Make them feel worthless about themselves. RIP to the ones who fell victim to this evil monster of a man
Just to correct people, Dennis's sir name is Nilsen and not Neilson. so many people say his sir name wrong, split his sir name Nil - sen and there you have it Nilsen. i find it annoying how people can get a simple word/name wrong, people talking in this video say his name wrong too which makes it worse and so unprofessional especially with it being a gruesome crime in the uk
They dont pronounce Epstein correctly.either. Clearly its not Epsteen, yet its how he himself even pronounces it. You cant argue with someone about the pronounciation of their name , and thats the problem here. You get to decide how people should call your name, even if its not proper English.
I don't usually care as long as we can get the gist of a comment but if we want to criticize one misspelling, then it seems fair to do so to another. The word is "surname", not "sir name". "I" is also capitalized, as should be UK, words starting a sentence and a full stop should be used at the end of a sentence.
Yes, some people survive abuse, emotional bullying, and terrible loss and grow up okish. Nonetheless, some people who suffer trauma grow up as very dangerous psychopaths
they were actually killing at the same time even though Dahmer was 15 years younger. Dahmer's 1st victim was in June 1978 and Nilsen's was in December 1978.
@@Marhea74you are missing the point. They both murdered due to the fact that they were lonely & killed to stop their lovers/one night stands from leaving them.
@@marygoff3332 I got the point quite clearly. I KNOW why they were killing. Duh. I was making a point that they were killing at the same time, not one before the other, like the original poster said 🙄
@@marygoff3332how is that the point?? Your saying that its ok why they did it because you think you know the reason 😂 they weren't lonely,they hated people and wanted to torture them
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"
Broken, twisted gene's, not born evil... This is so far from correct that it's not even funny. Nilson's own mother appears to be a real peach of a human being. What other horrors from Nelson's past were perpetrated by his own mother? Nature vs. nurture? I think what we have here is first of all, Denis Nilson was a broken little boy who grew into a monster. The nurturing of this broken little boy appears to have been at the hands of a real cruel individual. Broken biologically, then "nurtured" in the way he apparently was, only served to produce the monster he became. Born evil, no, broken, most certainly.
Some people are just born evil. Alot of us suffer abuse. Myself included I had a real shitty childhood won't go into details here. And 2 years ago escaped an 11 year extremely abusive relationship. We choose what we do. And I most certainly would never hurt anyone. I could and use alot of excuses to make people think aww she had it so bad. But myself and plenty of others whom are abused do not kill. We have a choice. Always.
@@ur.localcrazy Many of us have suffered, many more have been driven to drugs, alcohol and all manner of things. Others have been driven to suicide, and others lash out. I have lashed out in the past, and believe me, I did not give a damn for the consequences. Others, like Nilsen went even further. There was no anger, no rage, no fear, just him making his victim become a part of him. In my life, I can count on one hand, the people, I would destroy if I saw them anywhere near my home. As you say, we do have choice, and we do make choices but I am not so sure how close you ever came to actually ending your abusive relationship. And when I say ending, I really mean ending it forever. No one is born evil. Many are born broken, many more are even broken by the very people who were meant to protect, and nurture them. Then, many of these broken people go on to become a success, but others, no, because what afflicts them is so much worse, and you cannot comprehend it unless you yourself experience it. I say again, no one is born evil, broken, yes, ruined even more by their parents, and completely misunderstood by everyone, and then one day we see something in the news and then the know it alls come crawling out of the woodwork.
@@milodemoray I am sorry you suffered also. Life can be really cruel. I was driven to alcohol. Was an alcoholic for 15 years. Then for 10 didn't touch a drop. Even intoxicated I couldn't. And believe me when I say in my head I had finished it several times. But still could never. I get having an excuse and back story and snapping and doing it once. But numerous times there are no excuses for.
@@ur.localcrazy I apologize if I came over hard, or argumentative. Multiple murderers are often so broken that they cannot be fixed. Worse, even with treatment there will be lapses. Unfortunately, society is all too often too busy to even see what is before their eyes. The condemnation, and uncaring attitudes also do not help. Just as with children born with various health issues, will need to be taken care of for life, these "impaired, or broken" people mostly slip between the cracks. People like us though either don't know what we are getting into, or as with myself, believe we can help. My journey has been such that I have studied this subject, and am studying it still. In my time I have worked with many, and I have learned the sad fact that most of it is still ignored socially. In your case, I commend you for not crossing that line. For me, having my date with destiny as early in life as I did, and then having even more abuse shoved down on me in my formative years, inspired an anger that eventually grew into hate. Worse than that, it felt as if there were someone else also along for the ride, constantly prodding me. I grew cold, disillusioned and uncaring. This grew, and grew, and grew until the day when I crossed the line. Did I choose that? Did I even understand where my road was leading? Does anyone? In that moment, I was still me, I knew what I was doing, and I did not care. Society believes such behavior is reprehensible, psychology believes it is broken, and that they know how to fix it. Yet, I say, no one, who has not been there physically and mentally, can ever claim to know how, or why. No one can say they understand the impulses, or the compulsion of the moment, unless they too have been there. Again, I say, no one is born evil notwithstanding what the Bible says, that all have fallen short... No one is born evil, what they are is born, and bred broken. In some cases worse than others, unimaginably worse. And society? False failing smiles, or complete irritation that they actually have to stoop to the level of reaching out to help.
I'm sorry I know he is a victim and I feel for him u can't imagine the trauma but he is sooo EXTRA and seems like the type of person who has made Denis and what he did his WHOLE personality it's just too much at the end
I believe the British men are more on point, the retired police chief, and the other fella with glasses (bald on top) than the American dude, psychological forensics, with the white hair and white mustache. And I’m American lol. But this dude reminds me of Jeffrey Dahmer. In the fact he wanted to have company… he didn’t want them to leave him.. I’m shocked this guy let the man go that was with him for 18 months. One thing I must agree with that guy named Carl is, I feel terribly sorry for his mama.!!! For bringing this monster into the world. Very sad. It’s almost just like the luck of the draw. Sadly and unfortunately.
I think both Nilsen and Dahmer lied through their teeth about "wanting company". Dahmer didn't just want them not to leave, he wanted to murder them, dominate them, mutilate them, desecrate their bodies. He was very into dark horror stuff, wanted to have a skull throne in his house, and even after going to prison loved the fan mail he received. He just seemed very plausible in his interviews, and not a bad looking guy, that's how he trapped them! (And convinced the cops to put the 14 yr old boy back into his clutches)
Neilson was a very deranged killer. His "boyfriends" were poor, young men who took flight from home due to their homosexuality. So they were vulnerable, and that made easy pray
Dennis was an organic homosexual necrophiliac that also happened to be the most boring human known to humankind. Once this is understood, everything makes sense, for me, anyway...
@@ElliotFlowers I have no idea on that one, but how alike Dennis and Dahmer were, personality-wise, makes me believe it could acquired due to the public's view of homosexuality at the times. These views could have shaped their meek demeanors, making them appear 'boring'. My opinion...
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This killer is very reminiscent of Jeffrey Dahmer, in that he killed lovers so they wouldn’t leave, and kept their bodies around for company. Active around the same time, different countries. So strange.
Des was a bit earlier than Dahmer
@@benmorgan4021yes, but he is actually also known as “the British Jeffrey Dahmer
Yes well, Jeffery Dahmer should of been known as the "American Dennis Nilson" lol@@asummerphoenix
Lonely and gay.
Nilsen and Dahmer were both deployed to W. Germany; Nilsen in the mid-1960s, and Dahmer in 1979-1981...
I feel bad for the friend. He seems like he was tryna be a good guy, he knew he was kinda weird but didn’t know enough about the heinous crimes his friend was committing. I hope him and the surviving victims are all in better places now.
"Do you want to see your grandfather?"
"Yes."
*long box on table*
"There's grandpa."
The trauma that would have caused someone is crazy. That was such a mean thing to do.
Doing that to her 6 year old son sounds like his mother was a sadistic narcissist.
I was very close to my grandpa growing up. He stepped in after my father kicked me and my mom out after almost beating her to death when I was a year old. Never paid child support. My brothers and I grew up very poor even though my mom worked two jobs. My grandpa was that fatherly figure I never had, buying me school supplies and food for the house. Taking me on trips to escape my reality and struggles. I was waiting on him to pick me up one day to go on our monthly trips to his cabin, when I got the call that he had passed away and the next I saw him was at his funeral. I was young and had no way of understanding how one day he was here and the next he was gone. I'll never forget when my aunt made me walk up to his coffin and kiss him goodbye.. that feeling of cold on your lips stays with you forever. I once again felt abandoned and was confused about what I did wrong to push those I loved away. As I got older I came to learn that my grandpa had terminal cancer and wanted to protect us grandchildren by not telling us. Everyone needs time to prepare that kind of lose so they're not confused and blame themselves.
@@bleed_the_freakhow many people have you killed?
My parents never took me and my brother to funerals as kids as they thought it would've been distressing. I went to my grandads funeral when I was 12 but I was there for his death at hospital.
@@bleed_the_freak Damn. That's rough buddy.
I love Born to Kill. The narrator has such a soothing voice. Intonation, pace, volume..just perfect!
Same here
i love he's voice too🙂
I fall asleep listening to his voice
Yep these are the traits I look for in narrated videos before bed
@@jamieevans6395 me too
Carl seems like one of the most sweetest and most genuine and kind souls! I hope he finds peace! Bless his heart!
he's a bit...dramatic.
@@VinnyCarwash-js8opThey always are.
Carl seemed under educated but very kind and gentle. He didn't deserve a monster bully like him
You can hear how traumatised Carl Stotter still is.
Absolutely his time with Nielsen ruined him. I can not imagine how he feels and gets through each day 🥺
Sadly he died in 2014 after falling into a diabetic coma 💔
He suffered from flashbacks from that day and used to call his family saying that someone had tried to kill him.
They thought he was just drunk and making up stories, and at one point even disconnected their phone lines.
Then a detective was informed about it by a nurse whose husband was a PC. The detective revealed to Carl that the nightmares were real and really did happen to him 😭😞 I think he must have been suffering from PTSD 😕
A stark lesson for future generations.
Don't be gay.
I used to work with a bloke who lived next door to Nilsen. He said he often used to wonder why Mr Nilsen was outside having a bonfire of his clothes at three in the morning.
Said he was, otherwise, fairly normal in his habits.......
I met Dennis Andrew Nilsen in Brisbane Australia in 1973 .. after walking home from work at the Evans Deaken Shipyard at Kangaroo Point, I got to the Brunswick HotelJPG in the Brisbane suburb of New Farm at around 4:20 that afternoon.
The pub was fairly crowded, there were some ppl I knew including an Englishman from London who had done a bit of time, who was in company with DAN who he introed as a former London policeman.
I said "you were a Bobby then" and asked if they had known each other in Blighty, they said they had not .. I had seen video interviews and photos of Dennis Andrew Nilsen over a period of yrs, without ever recognizing him until I realized he was the man in a UA-cam thumbnailJPG.
He looked to be aged about halfway between the clean shaven, dark eyed dichotomization shotJPG taken during his military service, and the Murderpedia shotJPG shows him in a collar and tie.
He told me he had served in the British Army in Aden and said he was into underground gladiatorial contests, whether as an observer or as a participant he never made clear .. he was a fairly big strong boned type and gave the impression escaping his clutches would be difficult.
I did not much like the way he looked at me as though I were a slab of meat, and it was because of that and because of the shady rep of his companion, I departed the pub a short time later
I guess the period was after Nilson left the Metropolitan Police in 1973, and before he took up employment with the Civil Service in 1974.
The person in the pub with Dennis Nilsen was a below average height fellow named Peter, who was working as a painter who I had met in the pub a few times before. He was a fairly good humored type who said he had a hard time in prison because of his English accent, which to the other crims sounded like the screws who were mostly Englishmen.
The day he was with Dennis Nilson was a Friday, when I went back into the pub the following Tuesday he was there without Nilson, when I suggested he join me he was rude .. I drank my drink and got out of the place like I had on the previous occasion, I never saw him again.
Two days later on the Thursday came a news report a man's body had been found in his New Farm flat, I immediately thought of Peter the rude English painter, as well I surmised he had become a victim of his friend Dennis Nilson.
The police never launched an investigation, eventually assuring the public that since there were no signs of forced entry, and no suspicious marks on the deceased's body it was a natural death .. the day I met Dennis Nilson in the pub he came right up close.
I knew he was an ex London Policeman he looked very strong and his profile suggested he was gonna place me in a policeman's arm lockJPG, which is a wrestling move that can quickly be turned into a sleeper holdJPG, which will cause death if held for long enough by an experienced assailant.
Suppose he killed his man in Brisbane in 1973 and the rest of his victims by the same method.
*Part 2* - After running into Peter the Painter in the pub on the Tuesday afternoon following meeting Nilsen in his company the Friday before, sometime around 6:20 am the following Wednesday morning when I left the digs I was in at the lower end of the New Farm peninsular in Brisbane there was a bus coming.
Since the fare to where I had to get off then walk across the Story Bridge to work at the Evans Deaken shipyard was only 10 cents I went aboard, despite it was the wrong bus which went the long way 'round, thus very shortly I realized I could have walked the distance as usually did in less time .. no matter.
When the bus turned back onto Brunswick Street and proceeded to the next stop outside the NF Police Station looking out the front window of the bus, I saw DAN walk out from Terrace Street where PtP lived and head across Brunswick Street to the next bus stop near the pub, I was in the standing section of the bus which was by then almost full.
DAN got on at the bus stop and proceeded to the same standing section of the bus .. he recognized me and I asked him if "he had stayed at Peter's place" he said "no," I said "did you get a flat up there" he said no to that as well .. that Peter's body had been discovered inside his Terrace Street flat was on the evening news the next day. MapPNG.
It was initially reported as murder, however on the evening news Friday came a statement it was a natural death.
According to pub scuttlebutt Peter's neighbors knew Nilsen had been visiting and was present in the flat with him on the Tuesday night, they heard a quantity of thumping and banging and were aware Nilsen had left the flat alone on the Wednesday morning, and that there had been only silence since.
It was they who notified the police who entered the flat and found the body .. Queensland has a long history of stymied police investigations they let him get away with it, the ppl in the district were up in arms when Nilson was not arrested!
Dennis Andrew Nilsen is not the only one I recognized off of a YT thumbnailJPG, in Nimbin, New South Wales in about 2009 I purchased some marijuana from a dude who introed himself as Israel Keyes, the bag I bought at cost had a stone in it to make up the weight.
He is thought responsible for as many as eleven murders in the US, and fits the bill for a double murder at an isolated farmhouse in Northern NSW at around the same time, he committed suicide in prison in Anchorage Alaska Dec. 2012 while awaiting trial for murder.
You should write a book about this!😊
@@TheDillinger22wow just wow. Thats all out amazing. Keys was a mean person as well. Thanks for sharing.
Poor Bleep 😞
Write a book, why don't ya
For those of you interested in this case, I make a suggestion to read, if you haven't already, Brian Masters' Killing For Company... a very well written account of Nilsens history up to and including the murders. It's a brilliant read....a real page turner as they say.
Thank you so much!
Hey, thanks!😊
A soldier recently said "for all the killings I did abroad I got highly decorated, would I do the same at home I would be a serial killer and locked away for life".
That is a ridiculous comparison
@@thebiggestarenanot really. Think deeply...
@@marygoff3332 There is a clear difference. If you cannot see it I'm very sorry for you. .Ok I will give it a shot. 1. A soldier has been ordered and may I add an individual who puts there life on the line to protect the freedom of people like you. 2 Purpose to protect your freedoms to be a fool. 3. It's certain that they may kill to protect your dumbass freedom with in 99 percent of cases with no enjoyment and have severe PTSD . A serial killer ...Oh I give up on fools like you. Grow up
In context. What soldier and what conflict. Sounds like one solitary psycho excusing his behaviour and bringing his comrades into disrepute. FA
I believe he might have been referring to war crimes. Rapes, attacks on civilians, extrajudicial executions...that sort of thing. Soldiers of all nations have been behaving outside of military protocol for as long as war has existed...and if you go back far enough rape and plunder were part of an army's legitimate paycheck...
I went to this flat in 94 as a new estate agent. I waited in the flat for half an hour to a no show. Went back to the office,it was a wind up. No-one ever viewed that flat.
Though I knew about the crimes,it didn't click it was THAT Cranley gdns.
He asked what I thought about it before I knew,I said
" it's very cold seeing the sun hits it most of the day don't really like it"
In the 4 years at that job 3 people viewed Cranley gdns..one was a goth,the others were even weirder.
Few sinister houses in that area.
Exactly same thing happened here in US. He clogged the drains so the tenants complained. Plumber came and realize there's human flesh in the drain.
I remember that one too. Can't remember the details tho
must be one gig that plummer remembered long time
This was a time before sink 'insinkerators' where commonplace.
He clogged a drains and the neighbor complains~
It sounds like lyrics to a song!
Plumber came by and pulled out an eye...@@YourXellency
Out of all the documentaries I’ve watched, this is definitely Top 3. Narrator is fantastic & the story? Disturbing 😳
I recommend 'Des' with David Tennant if you can find it online
I remember all this , I live in Finchley about 1 mile away from his home . I knew people who use to cut down his road to get to Crouch End and mentioned there was a disgusting smell near the top of the road they just thought it was drains or a dead fox
Wow. David Tennant was perfectly cast physically for Nilson.
I think, killing for company needs a name in psychology, it seems like a some kind of personality disorder. The problem is that there has been only two among the history of serial killers, the other one was Jeffrey Dahmer. I guess it can simply be called killing for company syndrome.
There are more of them, just not as well known. I listened to a podcast with a well-known profiler, and the question came up related to a current case. He talked about it like it's a known "type" for profilers.
Psycopathy... It's simply the lonliness thing ever.
You're sitting on a pebble going through space. It's like astronauts that look down at space and get that wierd feeling.
It's that, because you're so lonely and isolated from everything. You see people enjoying their lives. Building connections, having sex and just being funny and down to earth with almost an inability to engage with it fundamentally
I'm so proud of David for leaving though. I hope he found someone who would appreciate such a seemingly sweet soul.
The saddest thing about Dennis Nilson is the fact that he was actually born😢
Even thru what he did, this is Immoral to say
@@User-cv2xn learn to spell! If he killed someone you knew you would not say it was immoral!!!! even though not thru!! Get a adult to help you to learn big words.
@@MichaelLuke-w6p Did he killed somebody you knew?
Every serial killer has been born! People are only whats put into them by parents and society
"The saddest thing about Dennis Nilson is the fact that he was actually born"
That seems true of everybody.
When are people going to stop with making excuses for vile humans like this. There is no excuse
No, there are no excuses, but there are reasons.
They will never stop making the excuses lol..
Because they need a job they're claiming to be experts on body language im yet to see a body language expert stop a crime from happening their full of shit
What excuses?
Most monsters are either created or ignored, only to be caught later in life.
It is not excuses I hear no excuses being made but we need to understand why monsters like him are formed .
"one night i woke up to him straddling me with a knife while the room was on fire"
"when they said where the bodies were found I knew it was him but I have no clue why I did"
Thanks to Christopher Slade for his fine narration of so many of these interesting episodes!
"only *he* had access to the garden"
"he had bonfires at *midnight* in the garden"
"the local children would come and dance around the bonfires"
okay
what about the smell
i guess after a certin hour TV got boring so the kids needed a good bon fire do dance around......... How ..............................................ENLGLISH how terribly terribly ENGLISH .
Yeah I suspect that was a bit of embellishment on the part of the author. The cine film seems to show a completely enclosed garden too.
Thank you for the post, personally, I believe a trouble soul comes from a young age, and if his Grandfather died without any family assistance in helping him assimilate, big problems can arise. Sad for all his victims!
33:56 but idk why this made me lol😂 the dramatic head turn
LMAOOo ur dumb
and I slept with him 💅
💀 he was like -
The answer is always both. Nature and nurture.
OMG the entry music gives me chills and I love it 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
it reminds me of " peculiar groove" by Frances Ashman😮
Odd the police didn't just kick his flat door down straight away after finding the human remains in his drains, instead of politely waiting for him to come home.
Well its England they are so polite about everything LOL ! I bet the cops would have happily danced a maypole while questioning him at his flat had it not been snowing ha ha ha !
They needed a warrant. The police can't just kick down your door without a warrant.
@@fraser_mr2009
Even after finding human body parts in your drains? That's really doing things by the book
I agree it was about control that he wanted to keep the bodies around. He could move them where he wanted and had their rapt, undivided attention for his expoundings. Whatever he wanted to talk about, they never challenged him or interrupted. Jeffrey Dahmer, on the other hand, kept his bodies because he didn’t want to feel the aloneness when they left.
That is nonsense Dahmer "didn't want them to leave". He wanted to dominate, murder, mutilate and desecrate.
What kind of mother does that
Narc mom, Psycopathy runs in the genes. This is the end result without proper parenting and social contracts in modern society 🤷
He is the British Jeffrey dahmer drank like Jeff and joined the army like Jeff and killed men like Jeffrey same tendencies
Nilson came before dhamer, so dhamer was the American nilson .
Dahmer also killed a 14yo boy.
@@Mikey13MoralesDahmer must have read about Nilsen, and he repeated the Nilsen bullshit about just being lonely and not wanting them to leave
Brian Masters book 'Killing for company' about Nilson is/was a phenomenal piece of work. Seriously dark but, especially when published. No-one had done such an in-depth look on how such a lunatics mind works. Remember it being utterly horrific but captivating read. Really good writer. Anyway bless you. Takecare
Brilliant book. I read it as a young teen and I’ve never forgotten it.
I read this book a long time ago and you are right. I think im gonna have to read it again decades on with the wisdom of age. I was just gonna post my view that he was a born degenerate psychopath and I maintain this with my increasingly conservative leaning towards nature rather than nurture. Its probably the best book on human nature to refresh your viewpoint. Take care
Thank you for your opinion. Takecare. Bless
I hope its on audible
With say Brian Cox narrating. I apologise that I'm now off into a bit of a tangent. He should of stayed as the actor who portrayed Hannibal Lecture in the film Manhunter by a young American director called Micheal Mann. The film was based on Red Dragon. The first instalment of the Hannibal Lecture trilogy. A few year's before the silence of the lamb's. His portrayal of him is Way more sinister and in the role than Tony Hopkins. Not belittling Hopkins. But if you knew AH's career as an actor I really couldn't believe his portrayal. Hammy? But yes. Brilliant. If it isn't a serious historian to scare say an the american audience say. Because my word that book is Dark. What have I just ran on about? I'm just off to get some help hopefully. Um... You Takecare.
Could 195 Melrose Avenue be described as a 'Des Res'?
After finding what they had found, they knew they were going to be dealing with someone who is a little different.
😂😂😂😂
Yeah, we must pardon his levity in this instance.
Yes but this isn't something to be laughing about.
Poor David Gallashen (or whatever his name). He just looks like a sweet boy cuddling his puppy and Nilsen is yelling at him.
Good for him tho, he got away
My man Carl is an OG storyteller 😂
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But, don't you see? He, like many other serial killers all over the world was: first,TAUGHT TO KILL IN THE MILITARY AND SECOND, HE WAS A BUTCHER OF ANIMALS FIRST
I have a I have a friend that used to deliver the newspapers to 10 rillington place.
we used to joke that he was lucky.
colin bennet, dennis nilsen's paperboy.
if he were American he'd write a book, or try for a movie deal
How old is your friend?
Omg the kids dancing around the bonfire…🤦🏻♀️
One scary dude! Yikes..
Such a great docu 😮
That is so sad for the little lonely boy
Not sure about the confession from Hunter-Craig, Nilson was a murderer, renowned for strangulation, yet he stated that he thought he was going to be suffocated, what with a heater and a knife!
So similar to Dahmer and just like Dahmer, police had opportunities but they blew off victim stories because thwy were gay. How many men would be alive if they had taken them seriously?
Everyone in this video has at least one missing tooth. 😂
Thats the UK for you... I live here and the NHS is a mess. Country is a mess. Dont believe the BBC.... People are regularly pulling there own teeth out with pliars
thats what i have heard. that medical care is terrible and dental care is not covered for anything basic. @@thebiggestarena
Ofcourse they do they are BRITISH !
Hahaha 😂
@@DejanLazarevic-y2chow very dare you! 😂
Putting the discussion of Nilson aside,my question is whatever happened too his dog?does anyone know?
Who cares about tge animal and people shouldn't be keeping animals as "pets" anyway!! Anyone who loves animals is very very weird
good question
Bleep was euthanised a few days after he was sentenced.
Have you done the Susan Smith case from the 90s where she drove her car in a lake Murdering her 2 young boys ?
He doesn't make these videos, he just posts network series.
Thus is a series on TV not a UA-cam channel you silly billy
it was a chilling house in a chilling street,it was chillingly cold,he was a chilling charachter
What?
@@iaminpainauchocolat9300 it was so chilling
Ooh I got a chill reading this.
@@shawndubbz full body chills 😂
London is the opposite of a tropical paradise it's often chilly there
Great doco
Didn't knew his dad, mom hated him and his grandfather that cared for him died when he was still a child, poor Deniss, life denied him any normal chance in life at the start.
B.S.!
That's most people's life!
? a 14 year old is a child, not a "young man"
not according to britain LOL
The police had 3 men reports one man for strangling them and they did nothing smfh
Still no easy days for these family.s. May u be healed 🙏❤️
What’s the music in the intro from?? (The twangy guitar)
People need to wake up and look at people around them and look at the evidence. Can’t people tell the smell of rotting flesh for Pity’s Sake? It’s a very unique smell.
Every time I hear about how they were brought up saying they had it hard maybe they did but it doesn't make any difference being a serial killer or rapist or pedfiles just like to say not every day man is like that
many people are brought up awful (me included) but we don't become killers cause we have a normal functioning brain with mirror neurons and a frontal lobe
Don't eat while you watch this
Thanks
Bon Appetit!
British people, I know. 🤢
Except if you're a cannibal xD
It doesnt matter how many times that plumber went round to fix that toilet we are fixated on this horror story no matter how many Dennis Nilsen docus we have watched bring them forth! 🤔🤔🥴🥴🤣
Have you seen the film? I'm morbidly curious, and I enjoy David Tennant.
David was a very good cast, looks and sexuality.....the film is good@@globalwarmhugs7741
@@globalwarmhugs7741 Yes saw the film DT was chilling wasnt he, what a great actor.
So where are the chilling home movies? They seemed pretty ordinary to me, and pretty sparce here.
you can clearly see his narcissism in them though
How do they be getting these HOME MOVIES of a serial killer 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Flipping their personal things and house. Collecting everything of his as evidence. The question really should be..."why tf do they make these weird home videos?"😂😂
Because it's all set up by the government. These people are experiments
Just like anything, the randomness of human genetics, blended to what happens during your life (such as trauma, head injury, $exual trauma, etc.) can create just about anything you could dream up.
The scary part is, that by proving trauma or genetics may have contributed to the murder or whatever, the laws may change someday.
Whatever a child is exposed to up to the age of six will most likely determine what kind of person they are going to turn out to be. I can testify to the fact that that is true because me being born in 1960 in Los Angeles, put me in contact with lots of people, including my own weird family. My oldest brother was born in 1950 was physically abused by my father not sexually, though created a son that would commit a murder, a horrendous murder. My mother did not protect my brother, from my father, but she would show him how to hurt somebody. They picked on him again so she gave him a sharp can opener when he was eight and told him to use it next time which he did so he would end up being raised by the system, starting at the age of eight.
Anyways, a whole lot, more madness to that story and many other stories of people I knew that were abused in those days and became the worst of the worst.
@@samdoors5132 so sorry to hear all of that, sounds like a horrible way to grow up, I hope you have found some peace in your life
this is very true, I saw it with my own son, who is on the spectrum when he was three his father threatened to hit him with his belt for knocking over a laundry basket and refusing to help me put the clothes back in it I stopped it from happening, but the fear of it alone "broke" him [I did not use or allow physical punishment in our home] he was a completely different kid before and after that incident and never fully returned to who he was before it
Is Carl Stotter on something? I’ve seen other clips with him before his ‘makeover’ and he seems like a normal but pretty traumatised guy, as you’d expect…
In this doco, he seems to have had a good dose of something spacey and dramatic ??
Long term effects of always being ‘the guy that’s always interviewed, the one that got away’ ??
Carls dead now. But I'd like to hear more from him. He went on to drag and was featured in Bizarre mag sometimes. But never an in depth interview.
The guy at 34 is a classic sociopath. Very bizarre.
He just looks and sounds very camp not sociopathic, overly expressing his emotions perhaps but I don’t understand how he’s a sociopath.
A weirdly overly-dramatic bender, yes. A sociopath, probably not
@@zaimajawad7880 he was a psychopath
Sounds like undiagnosed aspergers to me
I saw this documentary on tv several months ago.
Shame on the mother for not being more tactful, knowing he idolised his grandfather being the only male in his life. Definetly a British Jeffrey Dahmer.
You should watch the "Des" miniseries. The resemblance is uncanny.
People are disassociating around us at an alarming rate. Be aware of your surroundings. Anymore, no one is anything even remotely as they seem. Tennant did a hell of a job. Accurate. Thank you.
17:45 song?
In the same way a person can't help their sexual proclivity, this guy was driven by his urges and once he'd acted on them he wanted to relive the experience again and again. Most people would stop before it got out of hand but Nielson didn't, be that through a mad accident to start with or he just indulged his fantasy to its ultimate conclusion. We like to think a person like this is pure evil but in reality that preditary instinct is part of what makes us human. We saw the same thing with nazi death squads during the war. Thats what makes a case like Nielson so horrifying..
if he had been doing these killings during Vietnam War or Afghanistan no one would bat an eye. right
Makes ya wonder if the police did something about the one's that survived the others may still be alive instead of blaming them for a bondage game. That's shocking as far as I see it. Make them feel worthless about themselves. RIP to the ones who fell victim to this evil monster of a man
was that pete burns at the end?
I believe that Neilson's first roommate was slow.
Just to correct people, Dennis's sir name is Nilsen and not Neilson. so many people say his sir name wrong, split his sir name Nil - sen and there you have it Nilsen. i find it annoying how people can get a simple word/name wrong, people talking in this video say his name wrong too which makes it worse and so unprofessional especially with it being a gruesome crime in the uk
@@stuartbrown25 feel better now?
They dont pronounce Epstein correctly.either. Clearly its not Epsteen, yet its how he himself even pronounces it. You cant argue with someone about the pronounciation of their name , and thats the problem here. You get to decide how people should call your name, even if its not proper English.
@@stuartbrown25have you left the house lately ? 😂
I don't usually care as long as we can get the gist of a comment but if we want to criticize one misspelling, then it seems fair to do so to another. The word is "surname", not "sir name". "I" is also capitalized, as should be UK, words starting a sentence and a full stop should be used at the end of a sentence.
What kind of mother does that to their child.
We all suffer loss and upset but not all of us murder people he was just sick
Yes, some people survive abuse, emotional bullying, and terrible loss and grow up okish. Nonetheless, some people who suffer trauma grow up as very dangerous psychopaths
“Discolicious and pop tarts.”😂😂😂WTH
I wonder how many victims he sourced from his job at the Kentish Town job centre.?!?
31:32 that man has an amazing mustache
moustache*
I'm from America and we rather prefer to perform our spelling without the added flourish@@fionagregory9147
*moostash@@fionagregory9147
@@fionagregory9147You didn't have to correct the spelling it's American spellings of Mustache.
Haha. I was looking at it.
as others said, he sounds eerily similar to dahmer, he was before him tho right? it's a scary thought
they were actually killing at the same time even though Dahmer was 15 years younger. Dahmer's 1st victim was in June 1978 and Nilsen's was in December 1978.
@@Marhea74you are missing the point. They both murdered due to the fact that they were lonely & killed to stop their lovers/one night stands from leaving them.
@@marygoff3332 I got the point quite clearly. I KNOW why they were killing. Duh. I was making a point that they were killing at the same time, not one before the other, like the original poster said 🙄
@@marygoff3332how is that the point?? Your saying that its ok why they did it because you think you know the reason 😂 they weren't lonely,they hated people and wanted to torture them
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Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!"
Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..."
Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!"
Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky."
Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction."
Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"
I do not get why you quoted from fualty towers but Nice! LOL!
@@e.jenima7263 FORGET ABOUT THE HORSE YOU KNOW NOTHING !
There are few, who are evil to the core. This waste of air, even looks evil and his home movies proove, that in no mean, he was a nice or Kind person🤢
Broken, twisted gene's, not born evil...
This is so far from correct that it's not even funny.
Nilson's own mother appears to be a real peach of a human being.
What other horrors from Nelson's past were perpetrated by his own mother?
Nature vs. nurture?
I think what we have here is first of all, Denis Nilson was a broken little boy who grew into a monster.
The nurturing of this broken little boy appears to have been at the hands of a real cruel individual.
Broken biologically, then "nurtured" in the way he apparently was, only served to produce the monster he became.
Born evil, no, broken, most certainly.
Some people are just born evil. Alot of us suffer abuse. Myself included I had a real shitty childhood won't go into details here. And 2 years ago escaped an 11 year extremely abusive relationship. We choose what we do. And I most certainly would never hurt anyone. I could and use alot of excuses to make people think aww she had it so bad. But myself and plenty of others whom are abused do not kill. We have a choice. Always.
@@ur.localcrazy Many of us have suffered, many more have been driven to drugs, alcohol and all manner of things.
Others have been driven to suicide, and others lash out.
I have lashed out in the past, and believe me, I did not give a damn for the consequences.
Others, like Nilsen went even further. There was no anger, no rage, no fear, just him making his victim become a part of him.
In my life, I can count on one hand, the people, I would destroy if I saw them anywhere near my home.
As you say, we do have choice, and we do make choices but I am not so sure how close you ever came to actually ending your abusive relationship. And when I say ending, I really mean ending it forever.
No one is born evil. Many are born broken, many more are even broken by the very people who were meant to protect, and nurture them.
Then, many of these broken people go on to become a success, but others, no, because what afflicts them is so much worse, and you cannot comprehend it unless you yourself experience it.
I say again, no one is born evil, broken, yes, ruined even more by their parents, and completely misunderstood by everyone, and then one day we see something in the news and then the know it alls come crawling out of the woodwork.
@@milodemoray I am sorry you suffered also. Life can be really cruel. I was driven to alcohol. Was an alcoholic for 15 years. Then for 10 didn't touch a drop. Even intoxicated I couldn't. And believe me when I say in my head I had finished it several times. But still could never. I get having an excuse and back story and snapping and doing it once. But numerous times there are no excuses for.
@@ur.localcrazy I apologize if I came over hard, or argumentative.
Multiple murderers are often so broken that they cannot be fixed.
Worse, even with treatment there will be lapses.
Unfortunately, society is all too often too busy to even see what is before their eyes.
The condemnation, and uncaring attitudes also do not help.
Just as with children born with various health issues, will need to be taken care of for life, these "impaired, or broken" people mostly slip between the cracks.
People like us though either don't know what we are getting into, or as with myself, believe we can help.
My journey has been such that I have studied this subject, and am studying it still.
In my time I have worked with many, and I have learned the sad fact that most of it is still ignored socially.
In your case, I commend you for not crossing that line.
For me, having my date with destiny as early in life as I did, and then having even more abuse shoved down on me in my formative years, inspired an anger that eventually grew into hate.
Worse than that, it felt as if there were someone else also along for the ride, constantly prodding me.
I grew cold, disillusioned and uncaring.
This grew, and grew, and grew until the day when I crossed the line.
Did I choose that? Did I even understand where my road was leading? Does anyone?
In that moment, I was still me, I knew what I was doing, and I did not care.
Society believes such behavior is reprehensible, psychology believes it is broken, and that they know how to fix it.
Yet, I say, no one, who has not been there physically and mentally, can ever claim to know how, or why.
No one can say they understand the impulses, or the compulsion of the moment, unless they too have been there.
Again, I say, no one is born evil notwithstanding what the Bible says, that all have fallen short...
No one is born evil, what they are is born, and bred broken. In some cases worse than others, unimaginably worse.
And society? False failing smiles, or complete irritation that they actually have to stoop to the level of reaching out to help.
@@milodemoraysociety is bad because people are bad
I loved this channel but because of the ads every couple of minutes, not so much anymore. Bye.
You can always pay youtube a tenner a month. Cheaper than a TV licence in the UK. Is it worth it. I Dunno
@@thebiggestarena Yeah, you're right bud. Maybe i should just try it out at least.
The is on the TV then if you don't want to watch it on UA-cam
Funny, because I didn't get any ads. Weird.
Poor dog
I'm sorry I know he is a victim and I feel for him u can't imagine the trauma but he is sooo EXTRA and seems like the type of person who has made Denis and what he did his WHOLE personality it's just too much at the end
I saw in another video that his little dog was put down because of what he had been exposed to😢😢
I wonder if his grandfather abused him.....
what happened to michael cinco? how did he lost his teeth?
I was wondering the same thing. The other guy was like that too.
@@MountainMan7.62x39That's British dental hygiene
Just crazy.
That forensic psychologist's mustache actually looks like a walrus's mustache. Wow!
Soooooooooooooooo sad!
Cómo ese esqueleto podía someter a personas más fuertes que él ?
Sagittarius on a Scorpio cusp.
Not a great day to have a baby...
36.32 England V Scotland on the pub sign. That would probably appeal to Nilsen's dark sense of humour.
I walked past that flat a few times many years ago.
I believe the British men are more on point, the retired police chief, and the other fella with glasses (bald on top) than the American dude, psychological forensics, with the white hair and white mustache. And I’m American lol.
But this dude reminds me of Jeffrey Dahmer. In the fact he wanted to have company… he didn’t want them to leave him.. I’m shocked this guy let the man go that was with him for 18 months.
One thing I must agree with that guy named Carl is, I feel terribly sorry for his mama.!!! For bringing this monster into the world. Very sad. It’s almost just like the luck of the draw. Sadly and unfortunately.
Sounds like his mother could be a little sadistic too, with that "Do you want to see your grandfather?" jibe though....
I think both Nilsen and Dahmer lied through their teeth about "wanting company". Dahmer didn't just want them not to leave, he wanted to murder them, dominate them, mutilate them, desecrate their bodies. He was very into dark horror stuff, wanted to have a skull throne in his house, and even after going to prison loved the fan mail he received.
He just seemed very plausible in his interviews, and not a bad looking guy, that's how he trapped them! (And convinced the cops to put the 14 yr old boy back into his clutches)
Totally out of "A Clockwork Orange." Horribly chilling. Kubrick was a psychic.
I have to salute that professors mustache. 😂
Cringey isn't
Neilson was seriously creepy but his boyfriends are off the scale weird
Neilson was a very deranged killer. His "boyfriends" were poor, young men who took flight from home due to their homosexuality. So they were vulnerable, and that made easy pray
@@rolandrothwell4840 *prey
Those lazy killers that flush human flash down the toilette. tsc tsc 😮
Dennis was an organic homosexual necrophiliac that also happened to be the most boring human known to humankind. Once this is understood, everything makes sense, for me, anyway...
Organic homosexual?
@@troyagane8220 It just means it was naturally inborn, it wasn't acquired later in life. Exactly Like Gacy, Dahmer, etc...
was he inborn boring?
@@ElliotFlowers I have no idea on that one, but how alike Dennis and Dahmer were, personality-wise, makes me believe it could acquired due to the public's view of homosexuality at the times. These views could have shaped their meek demeanors, making them appear 'boring'. My opinion...
@daishi4531 Jimmy Saville also often referred to himself as 'boring' when asked personal questions. But thanks, interesting answer to the question.