Knott's Coaster Rumors: The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly | Massive 2024, Montezooma & Xcelerator Update
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- Опубліковано 22 жов 2023
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Hopefully they announce a peanuts dark ride. A peanuts dark ride for all ages similar to one of Disneys fantasy land rides. How cool would a ride system like Peter Pan be but set in the peanuts universe?
They ain't that innovative. But I've been thinking about that too
Unfortunately, Cedar Fair hates dark rides. They've owned Knott's since 1997 and have never built a single dark ride.
Can’t forget about Mystery lodge, they never announced it’s permanent closure, it looked like they were doing maintenance then it never reopened. The weird thing is that everything is still in there. They had a show in there for scary farm like a year or two ago and the mystery lodge set and preshow area is all perfectly intact. Whatever the reason is for not opening I’ll like to know at the least. I miss mystery lodge
I hate how knotts seems to have issues with manufacturers.
I agree, I really want more transparency from Knott's. I've been giving them the benefit of the doubt for a while on these limbo projects, but my patience has run out. Give us something! If you can't even open either one of the rides, at least tell us what's going on!
Same, I don’t understand the lack of communication.
It’s giving very much Six Flags. It’s so disappointing.
I think the problem is that they don’t even seem to know themselves. I’m sure they didn’t expect the problems they’ve had with either and so it can be hard to communicate what’s happening when it’s been random issues
I'm going to be furious if Montezooma never reopens! Thanks for the update.
I think they might wait on a long litigation for Montezuma's before anything happens, or some judge order that lets them proceed with another company and still pursue some kind of trial.
the fact they’re starting a camp snoopy project when we have two of the top five coasters down makes me want to drive my head through a wall. I really didn’t want to renew my knotts pass in 2023.. but I did bc I went up to CGA. Knotts really needs to get it together. the 2028 olympics are approaching and there’s no way tourists are going to come to this park if it’s in this state. absolutely insane the most highly attended park in the chain went from 10 to SEVEN operating roller coasters. absolutely brain dead management.
Latest things I've heard about these...
-Xcelerator is not dead, but most likely won't be reopening until next year. Some parts broke during testing that need to be custom fabricated, so it's going to be a waiting game as to how long that takes. If the parts can be delivered quickly, an opening for the holiday period is not impossible, but I've heard spring 2024 is more likely. Don't expect the park to say anything about this until just before it reopens as they want to avoid another round of negative publicity should another delay happen. The ride will also most likely receive a LSM conversion in the next five years should Top Thrill 2 prove successful, and it is possible to do so without a swing launch.
-Montezooma is most likely dead. There have been tons and tons of behind the scenes issues over the past six to nine months that have led to legal action, which will need to be resolved before there's any further work on the project. Given how much has already been spent on the project and how much more would likely be needed, a replacement is starting to look more viable than hiring someone else to do a refurbishment as it would be more marketable. Supposedly they're in the process of soliciting bids for a 2025 coaster that would be a spiritual successor, which makes me think some sort of linear footprint swing launch coaster.
-The 2024 Camp Snoopy coaster is supposedly a small Zamperla junior coaster, as they only have about 8,000 sq. ft. to work with (for reference, Snoopy's Soap Box Racers has roughly a 22,000 sq. ft. footprint). My guess would be the Lift & Launch model used for Daddy Pig's as it's a pretty close footprint match, but I could also see them just going for the standard model (especially if there's a flat or two involved as well). This announcement is expected to happen in early November shortly after Scary Farm concludes (and hopefully said announcement will also address Montezooma).
I'm with you on the transparency. Knott's has been very, very disappointing when it comes to communication lately, but beyond that the experience at the park has just been pretty lackluster lately. Despite being my local park, I let my pass lapse when it expired in 2022 and just got a new one last month as I'm planning to visit several other Cedar Fair properties in 2024, but after one regular visit I really don't feel any desire to go back (fortunately my Scary Farm visit was excellent). If they can't get back on track soon (aka by next summer), Knott's may become a Haunt only park for me going forward.
Don’t forget mystery lodge. They never formally announce announce permanent closure for it. Nothing inside the auditorium has been removed, it’s just sitting there stuck in the twilight zone limbo alongside Xcelerator, revolution, montezuma.
@@rexrabbiteer Mystery Lodge is basically on indefinite hiatus. The mechanics of the show need an upgrade, but because everything is custom it's not a cheap project, and with the low viewership of the show it's not seen as a budget priority. If/when there is a budget surplus there is a desire to bring the show back to life, but until that happens it's just going to continue to sit there.
Is there a small chance that we could see Xcelerator return in mid November or early December? I mean, I'm doubtful but it would be so cool if it did. They would have to be getting those parts over the next week or so though if that were to happen.
Also I really, really hope one day Knott's and Cedar Fair work with Intamin again. I know what happened between them, but I'm still hopeful they can try again. It's been over ten years now. I'm not overly happy that Cedar Fair chose Zamperla for TT2.
@@IntaminFanGRLPowerCoasters Depending on how much work needs to be done, I wouldn't rule out Xcelerator reopening during Merry Farm, but once they finish the repairs it's going to take approximately four weeks to complete testing and training. If we don't see any cycling by the second or third week of November it's probably safe to say it's not coming back this year.
It blows my mind you weren’t even born when they had the rocket ride that you could control your axis with a joystick (XJ-15? or something like that) or the soap box racers. Those two rides were amazing! Also the nautical and the time machine (the latter for making out with your girlfriend). Funny story for Knotts scary farm in like 2003…I was with 3 of my friends and I was with one of my buddies on the dinosaur ride and the girls in the car ahead of us jumped out within the first 2 minutes of the ride (right after the first “time travel” sequence) and jumped in our car and we ended up hooking up randomly. It was so funny, luckily there was enough lighting in that areas to be able to tell the girls were pretty attractive.
One other thing also, is we didn’t have to worry about them being fake “girl” and having an unpleasant surprise in which a MAN gets punched in the face for deception cause I don’t swing that way. It’s perfectly valid to get a hit in if a fake “woman” tried to hook up with you and you’re straight…ah better times when that was never a worry. I’d say I wouldn’t hit a woman but in their case they aren’t woman so it’s okay, they’re mentally ill men.
Xcelerator is back up. Many guests were riding it yesterday.
Hi Drew. Thanks for all your updates. I am happy to be subscribed to both you and Dylan"s channels. I heard that Knott's is supposed to make an announcement tomorrow regarding their Camp Snoopy plans, but I am not 100% sure on that. I am hoping that if they do make an announcement on Camp Snoopy that they address the status of Montezooma's and Xcelerator. I have also been pretty disappointed in their lack of communication on the status of both those rides. My biggest worry is that they can't save Montezooma's and it ends up scrapped. That would be a huge loss to the park.
Love your videos dude. Been watching your channel since the first year you started and wanted to say I appreciate you still posting knotts content.
Well said. Transparency, transparency, transparency. Knotts needs to give us more info.
I reslly hope they open it, all of the hydraulic launch coasters are disappearing! Ive never ridden xcelerator or monty so hopefully something happens soon
I'll be there Wednesday, can't wait sad to see so many things closed😢
While transparency would be great for visitors, they need to maintain their bottom line and a positive image, and keep their shareholders happy. That being said, maybe with the recent merger with Six Flags, they could move some of these rides to the other park locations? Will be interesting to see how everything pans out. Great video. Gald I YT recommended this to me. Subscribed. 🔔
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Just found your video. Nice job. Do you ever talk to the people who work there?
Bring back Wacky Soap Box Racers!!!!!
I won’t be returning back to knotts or buy a season pass until they get their act together. So many closed rides and constructions walls
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I heard that knotts was using some obscure manufacturer that pulled out of the deal for montezoomas revenge so now they’re stuck trying to find someone to build it. Unfortunately I think it’ll be scrapped
Kumbak
Try going to the Efteling
Great video! This park needs HELP. To have 2 MAJOR coasters down for such an extended period of time is unbelievable. I know people really want Xcelerator back...but with all the issues it has I'm almost wondering if it's worth it to just get rid of it and put something just as thrilling in its place. It would have to be really special tho...like an Axis...or something of the sort.
If you want a coaster that's open reliably, S&S isn't really the way to go either.
@@brianstart8276 lol I was using the Axis as an example of something unique/thrilling instead of a Zamperla launch coaster. (Not that those look bad...I just think if Xcelerator were to go..it needs a very worthy replacement).
But yes I'm aware of S&S. Steel Curtain 💀💀
What I have heard talking with employees excelerator is pretty much ready to test again but it is delayed due to staffing issues due to scary farm uses a lot of that staff
I hope the repair montezooma I never got a chance to ride as a kid and a teen was afraid of loops now I'm over the fear of it
I think that they may open Ex the first of next year. And you know that Cedar Fair is redoing Camp Snoopy at Knott's, putting in new and possibly more kid rides. I think that Montazooma is getting scrapped to make more room for Camp Snoopy. Also they are going through a legal process right now about the construction co. that ruined Monte. But who knows.
I got stuck on Woodstock express with my 6 year old at Kings Island a few months back but it’s still running. Now I’m not sure what’s going to happen with this six flags merger. It’s a mess
i only got to ride xcelerator twice in my whole life, i was maybe 12 years old. now i’m almost 14, and i wish i got to ride it more especially with all these rumors of it closing down.
It’s back up
Merry Farm starts November 17
montezooma to a vekoma super boomerang
Why are they doing so much at once? They’ve literally closed half the park to refurbish way too many rides all at once. Whoever got the 2023 annual pass got ripped off.
What if we get a giga starting on Montezuma's station heading towards the front of the park.
A Cali enthusiast can only hope for now of a giga being built
And to appease the families doing a family Vekoma like the one in Dollywood using the Jaguar station and some of the space the current layout takes up. One can dream right?
INTAMIN GIGA PLZZZ
Not happening. Knotts is a family park and not a Thrill Park. With that said, I would like to see a dark indoor coaster.
Hell no. That would ruin the park. If anything I’ll love to see less coasters and more family rides
Any chance Xcelerator could be open by November or December?
Those hydraulic launch coasters just love to be little problematic Intamins😂
At this point, unless it starts testing again in a couple of weeks, I wouldn't bet on it re-opening this year...
@@ParksBros same😫😫😭😭
I think it comes down to this with x celerator...keep an eye on tt2..I don't see a spike but I'll see a launch system overhaul for 2025 realistically for kbf...just my guess
We needs transparency and actual effort from the park. I think Montezooma has a chance to be saved by Zamperla if they do well with Top Thrill 2. I’m more concerned about Xcelerator. Intamin could redo it with vertical LSMs if Cedar Fair would pull themselves together and get over the grudge they have
zamperla could do the LSMs, no? i mean, they’re working on top thrill 2 so they could come and revamp both monte and xcelerator since cedar fair has been working with them quite a bit lately
Aren’t they suing the contractor who was renovating montazuma
I have my concerns that Zoom was never planned to reopen and that the announced redesign was just to distract from the permanent closure of a classic. It isn't common practice, but it's not unheard of in the industry.
Cedar fair shady
I fear this has happened too, or at least they decided to permanently close it after something went awry with the revamp
I highly doubt this only because of the foundation work done around the supports and the extra bracing installed on the supports for the spikes. No company would waste money on ride if they were planning to scrap it.
@@troyvsc That’s my thought as well, but paranoia is gonna parannoy haha
Knotts is my home park and I have no love for montezoomas. Lol
1sst!!
Whoo!
How is saying that a ride is delayed when we already know it’s delayed actually helpful? I don’t think they can be transparent with Monte as I strongly suspect there is some legal action involved. Xcelerator they could say something else broke, but they probably are horribly embarrassed. Really they should just tear it down and put in something much better and more reliable.
Legal action makes a lot of sense actually, I thought it was just cedar fair being cedar fair
@@joeeckroth2932haha Cedar Fair is so annoying sometimes. I just want them to get the Intamin LSM treatment, that’s it. Not Zamperla, Gerstlauer, Mack or B&M. I want Intamin and only Intamin to add LSMs. Their LSMs have a perfect track record and aren’t as unreliable as the hydraulic launches. Cedar Fair just do it!!😡
@@joeeckroth2932 It unfortunately has a very Windjammer vibe to me. I knew there was trouble way back in February when work just stopped. Everyone was oh…that’s because of the rains. No. Even on sunny days there was no work. The danger signs were there.
@@IntaminFanGRLPowerCoasters unfortunately, putting an LSM launch on Xcelerator just isn't feasible/possible for a couple reasons. 1) LSM launches don't have the acceleration force that a hydraulic launch does. If they did change to an LSM, they'd have to do a shuttle launch with a spike like they're doing to Top Thrill Dragster, which leads to problem 2) they don't have the room to build a spike for that kind of launch. Supreme Scream sits right where they'd need to build the spike if they gave Xcelerator the same treatment as Dragster. Hopefully they get whatever new problem popped up fixed soon so they can start testing again.
@@jeffwood1631 True, but Intamin does have those vertical LSMs they could add as a boost up the top hat