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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2024
- All the scenes in Darren Aronofsky's Pi that feature the board game Go (aka Igo, Baduk and Weiqi). Basically most of the scenes in Sol's apartment.
(with S̶p̶a̶n̶i̶s̶h̶ Portuguese subs for some reason) :)
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I discovered this movie during a low phase of my life. The scenes with hanging out at his mentor became my favorite parts. They gave me chill and recovery. It felt somehow similar to my current state of mind trying to solve a problematic matter.
Cosmic Hoschi Can you tell what kind of problems in life did you experienced? Thanks.
I hope that you are still with us CH.
I hope that you have made it through another year.
The world is a better place with you.
Same here, Mate. Hope you are doing well.
That's what an art is all about for for me!
This movie has gotten me through the good, the bad and the downright ugly brother
I've watched this movie so many times since I was a youth. Now that I am a professional mathematician, I feel like I know Sol, and he's been there all along.
Why does he appear so scared?
understanding how music works and is made is still not enough for one to begin to make beautiful music. i'm guessing a great mathematician is like that.
Saw this at a theater in the summer of 98. Have been obsessed and haunted by it ever since.
Why?
Because youtube premium is exactly 3.14€
Never knew hector salamanca used to be a mathametician
Maaaaaxxxxxx, tingtingtingtingting
Yeah, Mark Margolis has been an extra in a few movies including Scarface.
He also wanted to blow a guy and his family in front of United Nations building but instead received a bullet from political prisoner from banana boat.
He was a numerologist!
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As a film, PI is very well constructed. It's visually very interesting. You could watch this with the sound turned off and still enjoy just the visual aspect. The music is very atmospheric & complements the visuals well. It's an example of a film made by someone with a great visual & atmospheric sense.
As regards the story, it's about one person (Max) seeking something mysterious, patterns in PI. It has nothing to do with maths. You won't learn anything about PI or maths by watching it.
It's not a film about maths. But it is a film for those who enjoy good visual storytelling & atmosphere.
@The Monarch what are you trying to say? That Phi, the Golden Ratio, means nothing? It all over in nature! You can tell where a leaf will grow on a plant, where seeds will fall, the pattern of the sunflower seeds in the sunflower, the way a pine cone is constructed! It’s all about nature...should’ve been entitled Phi, imho.
@@cynthiaennis3107 The concept of the Golden Ratio is addressed obliquely by the Saul character. "When your mind becomes obsessed with anything -you will filter everything else out and find it everywhere." Many other aesthetically pleasant ratios can be found in the same forms in nature but because this one is the GOLDEN ratio, all of the others are filtered away like noise. Its a natural human tendency to obsess and distort our own reality in this exact way. "Without scientific rigour, you are no longer a mathematician, you're a numerologist." The Golden Ratio -is numerology. It's a kind of conspiracy theory like math meme.
When @The Monarch above says '"and lets not forget, all the bullshit the movie uses to paint its story, ALSO has grown from people using mathematics:)" I think he means that numerology, astrology, etc -most esoteric or magic disciplines were the first steps toward our modern scientific disciplines. The major dividing line between something that is at best an 'esoteric thought technology' and a practical, useful scientific discipline, is exactly this understanding of how pattern recognition and obsession construct our world and can drive us to madness.
Lets not forget also -this is a movie. Who's to say that toward the end of the film Max has not lost his mind? The films plot details Max's descent into insanity and isolation -while its major theme is the proximity of genius to madness. In the third act we are seeing Max's desire for a structured ordered universe bound by spirals etc -come true. He has stepped into his own delusion. And the delusion is so intoxicating that it has been convincing people for a very long time. Spirals in nature, numerology, kabala etc.
I don't mean to devalue these things really. I wouldnt call them bullshit like @The Monarch. I think there is a lot to be derived creatively and artistically from a swan dive into these ancient insanities. They are a powerful kind of poetry -but they are not science. And both disciplines are damaged by the conflation.
Yup it's a very aesthetically pleasing movie.
@@cynthiaennis3107 igonring numerology, afaik, maths the way we know them is literally, mathmatically not the end-all-be-all, david hilbert once said that math was complete, consistent and decidable, and proudly declared it in front of a considerable audience at a conference.
turns out he was wrong, on all 3 fronts, it was actually disproven even before he got to do the conference.
the consequences of him being, well, wrong, essentially spawned the modern era, alan turing made the modern computer trying to disprove one of hilbert's points, the device you're typing on right now literally exists due to math being anything but complete, consistent and decidable.
this does not mean math is worthless, it just means that we way we currently interpret numbers is not gonna tell us the truth of everything, hell, there's even chances that numbers are just that, interpretations of real, chaotic and unpredictable phenomena, which extends to numerology, which is regarded as a pseudoscience, anyways.
seems you forgot assumption number one@goodflo911
Best. Has been my favourite film for 20 years.
Omg. Then in the clip Max says 20 years. NOT A PATTERN!
Might just start writing numbers down. Just in case.
When Max's computer spits out the 216 digit number and implodes it creates carboniferous sugar - food for the ants...life.
Thanks for posting these riveting scenes from this obscure, and underrated, epic film.
You’re welcome
it's a pity Darren Aronofsky abandoned this kind of cinematography
@Emrullah Değer I'd say PI can be described as a film where one fights himself and tries to overcome his limitations. Considering the previous statement there are two gems from him: The Fountain; Requiem for a Dream
@Emrullah Değer erarserhead
@rhodamineThe film sets (specifically Max's apartment) were heavily influenced by Terry Gilliam's famous Dystopian, Bureaucratic, Black Comedy film: "Brazil".
@rhodaminerequiem for a dream is so much alike this one
he never made another lo fi black and white film, that's for sure, but his filmography has always remained fixated on obsession and how it affects people, from mathemathicians, to drug addicts, dancers, and even biblical figures.
Margulis who plays Max is perfect... so perfect here!
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I had that 216 digit number once, but then I lost it. When it's translated and intoned, turns out to be a lyric from a Beastie Boys song. God never showed up but Mike-D did. He said I was pure. Boy, do I miss that number.
Weight over volume. That solves the problem.
If your world was all black,
And your world was all white,
You wouldn’t get much color out of life now, right?
He predicted the emergence of alphago. Pure gem
One of the highest grossing independent films ever made and deservitely so
rest in peace mark margolis
One of the best cult movies I have ever seen, but not probably for everyone, especially 21st Century youth.
disagree, this movie's artstyle is getting popular again
Sol encourages Max to stop thinking and use his intuition while playing go and yet he chastises Max for treading off the path of scientific rigour into numerology. Sol is able to censure Max because Sol's data set is the go game he plays with Max which is observable and the styles and methods of play are finite and limited of which Max is aware, while Max's data set is the entire universe including the unoberservable variables (similar to how Lenny's was the Torah). Thus Max is convinced by his research because half of his data set is observable and the rest is a simple leap into the unknown or what Sol considers "hog wash". Great film though. Only when he appears in front of a rabbi does Max hit the wall, so to speak, in terms of enlightenment as Sol knew in calling Max "Icarus". The only "step" left for Max is a lobotomy. Then at the end he is at peace realising that he himself is a piece in the game and not outside nor over and above. It's like Spinoza wrote the script and Leibniz directed it.
His DIY lobotomy with the drill would realistically have proved fatal.
@The Monarch I didn't get that at all from the movie, although I'll grant it's not the easiest movie to understand. Yes, Sol is protecting Max, but only because of his own experience, not because the answer is not "meant" for humans to have, which implies some kind of higher or mystic source beyond man. Sol is only trying to get through to Max, showing him that any breakthroughs will never come without balance, which Max was lacking. As to Max's choice of lobotomizing himself, I think it had more to do with Max's desire to rid himself of the pain he was increasingly experiencing, rather than ridding himself of "forbidden" knowledge. Any knowledge may be dangerous if not used properly, but to imply some knowledge as forbidden harks back to the religious hogwash that Sol referred to.
@@graytonw5238 I must disagree. Sol lies to Max because Sol was trying to get at the same answer Max is looking for but at some point he had to pull himself out of insanity and stop. Sol knows Max will never stop so he tries to redirect Max with a lie to stop him from going insane. This is evident when Sol returns to the problem and it causes him to die of a stroke, having organized the go board into a golden spiral just before his death. Even with all the experience and knowledge Sol has, the temptation to solve the problem was too great and it was inevitable that he would return/relapse.
Max did perform the lobotomy because he wanted the pain to stop, but the pain gets increasingly worse throughout the movie as Max gets closer to the answer, suggesting an association between pain and Max's knowledge. This is supported by Max's encounter with the Rabbi where Max is told he's not pure enough and that's why the knowledge is eating him from the inside. The movie is a series of interconnected symbols, there are many facets of meaning to it.
Reading this comment, reminded me of my extract Salvia Divinorum trip, from August, 2013.. I has a similar experience.
LONG SOL
RIP 😢
Thank you father for our brief time together. I named your grandson after this character. Thank you for the profound influence you had in my life. I miss you, man! love to Sandra.
This is the movie that got me into Go so long ago
Next movie night this one will play. Cant wait
Hello my fellow CT friends
I always liked the background music in this scene...anyone know it's name on the soundtrack?
GoSolar It's not on the soundtrack, unfortunately.
GoSolar is on my channel I made a loop
@@datpsp6531 Thank you!!!!!
this movie is cool, wish i hadnt lost it...
Even the ring button is a pawn of go..
I want some m&ms now
lol
Imagine discovering a pattern in the stock market. How long before the FBI and other agencies knock on your door?
I have no idea but if i were to guess and you keep it quiet might go on forever.
actually a subplot in the movie
Renaissance Technologies does pretty well.
You might be killed by the CIA
You'd "disappear" pretty quickly, I'm sure 🫥
Love the numbers on that go board.
he makes a nobi from a strong wall and he wants to discover the secret of life xD
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wait.... is that HECTOR from breaking bad??
Yes
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What is the name of the music in the background?
This movie has some degree of cosmic horror that was not exploited enough. Great film though.
Within the context of this film, it's perfect. Over-explaining is what ruined movies like the Matrix.
The number of God is three - the simplest minimal system, the interaction of three objects, people. The number of the devil is one, indifference, selfishness, arrogance.
Ding ding
Is it just me that thinks those little things look like sweets and want to eat eat them?
Certainly, yet they will come out in the same state they got in.
kinda resemble Mentos...
Just you lol
The look like minstrels from the uk
They're irresistible.
But not tasty.
This movie is a masterpiece. But math is not a language of a nature - it is just our brain it try to solving problems - but it solving only itself. The problem is we are limited, and we can describe small part of this what we see - but we see very small piece of a world by our eyes and ears. Whole mathematics is like a long way of history of describing whole world which we see by generalization and abstraction of simple facts which we see. Here is very nicely showing that knowledge/self konwledge can make us crazy or even destroy . People should not know. Its too much for them - only problems because of that. Too much power in hands of people is not good - people mostly too stupid to get this power - eg. nuclear weapon. Without this and generally weapon the worl woul be better place - because destruction would be much smaller.
Well said 🙏
snow flakes the shape is made by a kaleidoscope with 3 mirrors its called a mandala
It's portuguese, actually, not spanish, but both languages are indeed very similar. Although portuguese is my native language I had an easier time learning english than spanish.
Oh yeah, I should’ve known that! Edited description now. :)
Not sure why I thought it was Catalan, some parts did not seem Portuguese
Good to see hector salamanca spending quality time with his friends.
Ding ding ding-AHHHHHH. -This movie
Here because of GCR.
He should of used his skills for poker he would be unbelievable and mad rich😮
1:08 is only time Max smiles?
You forget about ending scene ;)
Vist jeg regner omm frekvensen på alle dyr i hele verden tråløst va skjer da alle levende organismer?
Classic scene for a cult classic movie
Vist jeg lager tall av apsolutt alt som ligger på Internett vilken form får da det?
the movie is good but they should asked somebody who can play Go about a good board position. max' move is close to worst possible, he even holds the stone wrong, and the capture of white is unnecessary and stupid too.... :/
Black got 8 or so free moves… lost the bottom right though. Better than the Beautiful Mind scene I guess! Cool movie, albeit disturbing and sad.
{cc} n22 r2 where order is not imporant {cc} and repetition is now allowed : 231
Didnt knew Hector Salamanca was a math teacher 😆
He wanted to cook meth too but had to fall back on teaching math instead XD
Va skjer vist mann tar alle bokstaver og fasongen på bokstavene og tallene og så regner Di ut vilket tall og fasonger får alleverdens fasonger på tallene og bokstavene?
Equation is incorrect in this scene
Va skjer vist mann lager tall av ver eneste lille bevegelse lyd va skjer da?
archimedes of syracuse
This clip seems to imply that the Japanese invented Go. They didn't. The Chinese did. It was also the Chinese who, way before the game got to Japan, suggested that it represented cosmos and the star sky. The game is also pretty much NOT played by intuition. It's a kind of myth.
StopFear intuition plays a major role actually. People can't really compute the outcome of a game say 20 moves in advance so one has to use intuition
Computers have a lot of problems playing go because they rely completely on logic to play the game, and either have to take 6 hours to compute all possible moves or if they move faster they must severely sacrifice their decision-making ability and their moves are suboptimal. If go’s “gameplay by intuition” was a myth then computers wouldn’t encounter these problems, especially to this degree.
Can you get this on blueray?
Filthy numerologists!
Vilken fasong blir det vist jeg regner omm hele verdens Internett ver eneste bevegelse film dokumentar serier alle bevegelsene og tidspunktene mensker legger ut ting på Internett asså va skjer da?
Soundtrack name?
If anyone knows the ambient music please post it, cant find the title anywhere!
At the end? Pir^2 by Clint Mansell.
I think he means the ambient music when they are playing Go. At 0:20 for example. It's almost inaudible but the track is beautiful.
He probably does. Blocked Up by Archetype according to Shazam. (Which is clearly wrong) :D
You know what? I just realized that the sound track we are talking about sounds a lot like Zelda's Lullaby from The Legend of Zelda games, if you've ever played those. It sounds very similar at 0:20.
It sounds really similar. From my research, nobody knows where the music is actually from.
I was almost positive I would find it in the official soundtrack release but nope.
I guess we'll never find the exact soundtrack. FeelsBadMan
After gcr tweet everyone watch like🧐
Short sol
JUZY ,JUZY , JUZY
David Berlinkski is that you?
go could be automated. therefore could be understood through math.
Same with chess.
What do you mean :D Never heard of N = NP OR N not NP?
*Dirks, Spirits, Formals, Doritos (R)* “Getting Medieval”
The True Elements:
1. Psychological Ownership (Spirits).
2. Violence, Avarice, and War (Dirk).
3. Formality and Presentation (Mirrors and Architecture).
4. Consumption (Gluttony).
The people are addicted to formality bombs and constantly trying to own each other psychologically. It’s a sickness, perhaps semi-rational because of our history of violent brutality. These are humanity’s defining characteristics historically. They should get professional help. Maybe, from aliens? E=MC2, Pentacle. That’s all you are if you add in stuffing your face with Doritos (R). Remove the dagger and Doritos (R). You’re God! Daggers, Doritos (R), and owning you psychologically. I’m Satan! Medieval Times was humanity’s natural state. That’s all it consisted of. All strategies come from the elements.
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I'm not a great go player but even I can tell this is some amateur hour go from both of them.
Kyle Mac. Another interesting observation is that max holds his stones like a beginner and the teacher holds his stones the way an experienced player does. I think this was a "teaching game"
Ah, I was wondering. I haven't seen the whole film yet. But even the stone laying skills of the teacher are not really good. I am a 3 dan in go, I can tell.
there's a skill to how one holds the stones?
No it is just a matter of personal preference. ⚪️⚫️
Religious juice?
What is the name of the game
Go.
the matrix
A los 00:37 se demuestra que la intuición no sirve de nada si cuando filmas una escena no tienes ni idea de cómo jugar al Go :-)
There are these religious jews I've been talking to...
long $SOL
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Moze to na srpskom jeziku
Siguran sam da imas prevode svuda po netu za film.
لا تستطيع ان تبدا اي شئ الان وحده من يعلم التاريخ بسنينه ويملك الكتب الاصليه يستطيع ان يحسب عدد السنين و وقت النبؤات ، انا بالنسبه اللي اعتمد على النبي محمد و الوحش
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Киев перед Великим постом
placed backgammon board
rapists son two five pound sword
mangussons cut cord
Hector Salamanca´s death is less epic here.
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