The real review will be after 6 months of use, to see what rusted out, Broke down, and how you avoided grease fires transitioning from smoking to using the gas burners. Still seems overpriced
I'd be willing to guarantee that won't happen. My Camp Chef Woodwind Wifi has served me perfectly for the last 2 years with no signs of wear outside of the natural seasoning tint of repeated use and one failed temp probe (out of 4). And mine is half the price
Man, I’ve watched a lot of your videos. You have several grills, (how many?) what does your garage look like? Keep the vids coming. Have learned a lot from ya.
It is almost like my two grills combined. I don’t have that much into the pair, but then again I don’t have them combined into one either. Nice review!
Nice review! Very enjoyable and informative! I am debating between an Apex 24 w/Gas Kit or New Genessis 2022 with a Weber Crafted Griddle. Is the only place to purchase the Apex on the Camp Chef website? It say that Academy Sports, Bass Pro, and Dicks Sporting Goods are authorized dealers, but they don't seem to have in stock. Thanks!
At this point it may be the only place to get it, as it was just released this week. But in general most of the camp chef products are available amongst those stores.
I agree. Even though I seasoned it and cleaned the surface right away, mine had surface rust the next day. I take my griddle off and store it in a dry place and just take it out when I need it. They need to make a hard cover for it.
Not finding any detailed dimensions. Looks to be about 40” wheel to wheel on the 36” unit ? I have 62” to a set of stairs (which the griddle would hang over). The manual has a 36” buffer on the pellet hopper side but that seems excessive. Also I’d like to hook the propane to my house which has a 250 gallon tank , don’t see an accessory yet for that
I have given up on all gas grills, they flame plates/heat tents and burners always 100% rust/corrode. My friend who is a brick mason/pottery Etsy seller eventually made me some ceramic heat tents and those never corroded. The burners I am on my thrid set in six years
I have experienced that as well on many gas grill, but most of the ones that I have had were very cheap. I am very curious to see how this one holds up over time, because in regards to build quality its the nicest grill that I've ever used!
The apex is a TANK! But in terms of smoking it’s like any other pellet grill, as you’re only going to get so much out of pellets. The WW Pro is on a completely different level! The smoke box makes a legitimate difference!
This is the one thing I kind of worry about with this grill. What if in the rare scenario if this pellet grill has a backdraft explosion in which a fireball will shoot out of the grill? With the combination of the gas outlets, it makes me wonder if you then got an unintentional bomb. I had one of those backdraft explosions once before on my Woodwind. Maybe if the propane is off, there won't be a cascading explosion? But then I worry about the pellet explosion potentially damaging the gas outlets in this. It's rare to have a backdraft, but I saw it happen before.
@@InsaneD602 In my case, this was right in the middle of the cook. It did not happen at startup. Only thing I can attribute to is it didn't like the Pitboss Charcoal Pellets and the auger malfunctioned. While yes I know most are attributed to user error, there are cases to where unfortunately pellet grills are unpredictable.
So real question. How do you get all the ash out? No way does all the ash go in the cup. I currently have a woodwind in my back yard and let me tell you. It pushes ash everywhere. After every cook I clean it out.
I will say that I agree with you on the previous models…. Now I haven’t taken everything out since I’ve had this and I’ve cooked quite a few times too. I will say that I seem to notice more ash in the cup that on my previous models
@@AndersonsSmokeShow great. I think initially it will do okay. Smooth surfaces draining well. But, after some build up....... It's fine it it does imho. You're grilling anyway. Just have to let it burn off first. Sucks if you already have something on there and walked away for a second. Still getting to grilling temps should cause the fire if there is one to be had before throwing the food on.
Man that thing is a beast! Can't wait to see some cooks on it! Maybe when i get the loan to build a garage a couple grand can go...missing... haha Just a heads up, the link if your description to "buy this grill" takes you to a different camp chef smoker.
Hey I am curious on what are some problems you are running into with this? It is a high price point and I am looking into getting it, but would appreciate your honest feedback on what issues you are seeing or even could potentially see.
The only “issue” that I’ve had so far is that I needed to readjust the igniters. Not sure if they were on the cusp and me moving it around made the gap just outside spec or what… but since I readjusted them they’ve been fine. I will say that my only complaint with the apex is the grease pan for the sidekick. If you move the grill around a lot it’ll fall out and make a big mess. Don’t ask me how I know that 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
@@AndersonsSmokeShow thanks for the help, also last question what reason do you find the need for the gas grill and the smoker component? How do you utilize both components? It seems maybe a smoker can do most things especially if you have a sear pan?
For most people it serves as an “all-in-one” unit. If you’re a person who can only have one grill/smoker, then this is the best option… you’ve got the pellet smoker, gas for quick stuff, and the sidekick/griddle for searing and whatnot. In terms of utilizing both, think of them as separate entities…. You’ve got a gas grill and you’ve got a pellet grill. They don’t function together.
It looks really nice but why didn't Camp Chef use their full color display instead of the hard to read black and white? If this is their top of the line grill, there color display should be there. it would prevent me from buying it over their older Woodwin version.
It’s “color”, if you think purple & white with black letters is color. It’s bright and easy to read, but only 2 colors, so they might as well be black on white.
I don’t personally have a code that will save you money… unfortunately camp chef doesn’t provide those. I do have an affiliate link that will give me credit for the sale which results in a little commission on my end. This is my Link if you’d like to help support the channel: bit.ly/3xG6Ct7
@@AndersonsSmokeShow order placed using your link. Amex is on fire! Replacing my beloved Yoder YS640 Comp on your recommendation for the Apex. Thank you again
You can’t. Mine already has some surface rust that I had to clean and reseason. Now I take it off after it cools, and store it in a dry place. They need to make a hard cover for it.
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The real review will be after 6 months of use, to see what rusted out, Broke down, and how you avoided grease fires transitioning from smoking to using the gas burners. Still seems overpriced
Yeah man, hard to find a review from guys who camp chef didn’t fly out and blow smoke up their ass
get a lynx grill
I'd be willing to guarantee that won't happen. My Camp Chef Woodwind Wifi has served me perfectly for the last 2 years with no signs of wear outside of the natural seasoning tint of repeated use and one failed temp probe (out of 4). And mine is half the price
Man, I’ve watched a lot of your videos. You have several grills, (how many?) what does your garage look like? Keep the vids coming. Have learned a lot from ya.
Hard to fathom why they didn't use enamel coated cast iron grates on a $2k grill... Other than that, looks great.
It is almost like my two grills combined. I don’t have that much into the pair, but then again I don’t have them combined into one either. Nice review!
Congratulations on the new Camp Chef! If I had the money I would buy one!
Thanks! It is a very nice grill
I'm thinking they gave it to him to review.
when can we see it in action NEED some cooking going on
Nice review! Very enjoyable and informative! I am debating between an Apex 24 w/Gas Kit or New Genessis 2022 with a Weber Crafted Griddle. Is the only place to purchase the Apex on the Camp Chef website? It say that Academy Sports, Bass Pro, and Dicks Sporting Goods are authorized dealers, but they don't seem to have in stock. Thanks!
At this point it may be the only place to get it, as it was just released this week. But in general most of the camp chef products are available amongst those stores.
At that price I would expect a lid over the flat top.
They dont have it because the sidekick is much more than a griddle... you can use their other accessories on there too or use the burner only
I agree. Even though I seasoned it and cleaned the surface right away, mine had surface rust the next day. I take my griddle off and store it in a dry place and just take it out when I need it. They need to make a hard cover for it.
Not finding any detailed dimensions. Looks to be about 40” wheel to wheel on the 36” unit ? I have 62” to a set of stairs (which the griddle would hang over). The manual has a 36” buffer on the pellet hopper side but that seems excessive. Also I’d like to hook the propane to my house which has a 250 gallon tank , don’t see an accessory yet for that
The gas feature is cool. But I assume prior to this you never used a Memphis, Mak or any other premium pellet grill?
Can we get a comparison cook with the pro and apex to see the smoker comparison. I expect the pro will be superior but how close is the apex.
I can do that! You’ll be surprised at how significant it is!
I have given up on all gas grills, they flame plates/heat tents and burners always 100% rust/corrode. My friend who is a brick mason/pottery Etsy seller eventually made me some ceramic heat tents and those never corroded. The burners I am on my thrid set in six years
I have experienced that as well on many gas grill, but most of the ones that I have had were very cheap. I am very curious to see how this one holds up over time, because in regards to build quality its the nicest grill that I've ever used!
@@AndersonsSmokeShow any updates on it yet?
How does it compare to the new Woodwind Pro in terms of smoking? The Apex obviously doesn't have the new smoke box but is it better insulated?
The apex is a TANK! But in terms of smoking it’s like any other pellet grill, as you’re only going to get so much out of pellets. The WW Pro is on a completely different level! The smoke box makes a legitimate difference!
This is the one thing I kind of worry about with this grill. What if in the rare scenario if this pellet grill has a backdraft explosion in which a fireball will shoot out of the grill? With the combination of the gas outlets, it makes me wonder if you then got an unintentional bomb. I had one of those backdraft explosions once before on my Woodwind. Maybe if the propane is off, there won't be a cascading explosion? But then I worry about the pellet explosion potentially damaging the gas outlets in this. It's rare to have a backdraft, but I saw it happen before.
Keep the lid open when you’re starting up the pellet smoker and you shouldn’t have that issue
@@InsaneD602 In my case, this was right in the middle of the cook. It did not happen at startup. Only thing I can attribute to is it didn't like the Pitboss Charcoal Pellets and the auger malfunctioned. While yes I know most are attributed to user error, there are cases to where unfortunately pellet grills are unpredictable.
So real question. How do you get all the ash out? No way does all the ash go in the cup. I currently have a woodwind in my back yard and let me tell you. It pushes ash everywhere. After every cook I clean it out.
I will say that I agree with you on the previous models…. Now I haven’t taken everything out since I’ve had this and I’ve cooked quite a few times too. I will say that I seem to notice more ash in the cup that on my previous models
When you can, smoke some grease heavy items and then fire up the burners. Truly curious about grease fires when grilling after smoking. Thanks.
I’ll be smoking a few greasy things on it this week, so we shall see!
@@AndersonsSmokeShow great. I think initially it will do okay. Smooth surfaces draining well. But, after some build up.......
It's fine it it does imho. You're grilling anyway. Just have to let it burn off first. Sucks if you already have something on there and walked away for a second. Still getting to grilling temps should cause the fire if there is one to be had before throwing the food on.
Man that thing is a beast! Can't wait to see some cooks on it! Maybe when i get the loan to build a garage a couple grand can go...missing... haha Just a heads up, the link if your description to "buy this grill" takes you to a different camp chef smoker.
Yeah I just saw that in another comment… oops! Forgot to change the link
bit.ly/3xG6Ct7
Hey I am curious on what are some problems you are running into with this? It is a high price point and I am looking into getting it, but would appreciate your honest feedback on what issues you are seeing or even could potentially see.
The only “issue” that I’ve had so far is that I needed to readjust the igniters. Not sure if they were on the cusp and me moving it around made the gap just outside spec or what… but since I readjusted them they’ve been fine. I will say that my only complaint with the apex is the grease pan for the sidekick. If you move the grill around a lot it’ll fall out and make a big mess. Don’t ask me how I know that 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
@@AndersonsSmokeShow thanks for the help, also last question what reason do you find the need for the gas grill and the smoker component? How do you utilize both components? It seems maybe a smoker can do most things especially if you have a sear pan?
For most people it serves as an “all-in-one” unit. If you’re a person who can only have one grill/smoker, then this is the best option… you’ve got the pellet smoker, gas for quick stuff, and the sidekick/griddle for searing and whatnot. In terms of utilizing both, think of them as separate entities…. You’ve got a gas grill and you’ve got a pellet grill. They don’t function together.
As always brother great video 💯👍🔥
Appreciate it
Nice grill. Ready to.see more on this.
I’ll be slaying some bbq on this VERY soon!
That suckers is a beast. I've been trying to come up with how I can sale this to my wife to buy. 😂
Camp Chef should sell raffle tickets to win one , they would make a killing, I would buy a bunch 😀
Man, I want this thing so bad! Mayne when my WW 36 kicks the bucket. Haha.
It looks really nice but why didn't Camp Chef use their full color display instead of the hard to read black and white? If this is their top of the line grill, there color display should be there. it would prevent me from buying it over their older Woodwin version.
This has the same controller as the Woodwind
Everything I've seen shows the b&w screen. Not the full color one.
It’s “color”, if you think purple & white with black letters is color. It’s bright and easy to read, but only 2 colors, so they might as well be black on white.
Great Video!!!!
Thanks!
If they only did the smoke box on this and it would be perfect!
I’d love a smoke box on the APEX
I’m ready to pull the trigger on the 36. Coupon code? Please
I don’t personally have a code that will save you money… unfortunately camp chef doesn’t provide those. I do have an affiliate link that will give me credit for the sale which results in a little commission on my end. This is my
Link if you’d like to help support the channel: bit.ly/3xG6Ct7
Cool I will use your link. Happy to help the channel. Ordering now thanks!
Appreciate it!
@@AndersonsSmokeShow order placed using your link. Amex is on fire! Replacing my beloved Yoder YS640 Comp on your recommendation for the Apex. Thank you again
How much did Camp Chef pay you to do this infomercial?
I’m not paid
How do you cover the griddle?
It doesn’t have a “cover” specific for the griddle, but the patio cover for the grill covers it.
You can’t. Mine already has some surface rust that I had to clean and reseason. Now I take it off after it cools, and store it in a dry place. They need to make a hard cover for it.
Will it run on natural gas?
There will be an adapter available to allow for natural gas
I think I saw that they have a conversion kit when I was reading the manual (yes, I actually read it).
@@jimroth-roffy5360 Thanks!! That could be a game changer.
Did I miss the price ?
Over $2k
The Apex 36 with gas kit is $2450
Link doesnt take you to this grill.
Oops! Good catch, I forgot to change it from my other camp chef!
bit.ly/3xG6Ct7
Decision: Buy $2500 grill or $2500 fishing kayak?
I never catch fish. Easy decision. 😄
A white elephant? Reviews from real users have not been good.
overpriced,wait a couple years with more reviews and price will drop several hundred dollars
The way the supply chain issues have hit the market, I doubt prices that will go down on anything any time soon…
It’s ugly those red knobs are terrible
I personally like the red touch
Webber genesis on roids!!
Sorry I’ll stick with gravity fed
But nice review
This thing is ugly! Lol not paying that much money for something this ugly
I guess everyone has their own taste