Who sings Porpora's "Torbido intorno al core" best?

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  • Опубліковано 14 січ 2021
  • Franco Fagioli, Nathalie Stutzmann and Max Emanuel Cencic sing Porpora's hauntingly beautiful aria "Torbido intorno al core." Who sings it best?

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  • @pelphro
    @pelphro Рік тому +11

    Nathalie Stutzmann hands down. Her deep contralto voice especially in the low range is just mesmerizing. Her voice can't be duplicated.

  • @MalisandreFeline
    @MalisandreFeline Рік тому +15

    Franco Fagioli, une voix riche en ornementations,somptueuse en tout point,sans tomber dans les excès,qui sert si bien la musique de Porpora. Un artiste digne de ce nom!Mais j'ai aussi un beau coup de cœur pour Nathalie Stutzmann et Max Emmanuel Cencic !Les valeurs sûres de la musique baroque et classique!

    • @francoislebedel4428
      @francoislebedel4428 Рік тому +4

      Je partage votre avis. Le phrasé somptueux de Franco Fagioli m'a enthousiasmé.

    • @thaisdegascogne9250
      @thaisdegascogne9250 Рік тому +3

      Ici c’est Franco Fagioli qui me fait vibrer. Même si les deux autres sont également excellents…

    • @martinelin8212
      @martinelin8212 10 днів тому

      @@francoislebedel4428 +1

  • @maitestorchi2497
    @maitestorchi2497 2 роки тому +9

    Fagioli est le seul à chanter en cadence pure et fluide tout le long de l'air, comme le voulait Porpora, sans cassures ni ruptures de rythme , d'où cette merveilleuse impression de flottement , de légèreté . Je me laisse bercer par sa voix unique , c'est magnifique !

  • @raule.tarulla6366
    @raule.tarulla6366 2 роки тому +11

    Tres grandes de la música barroca. Los tres son fieles a su estilo y las tres interpretaciones son exquisitas.
    Pero... me quedo con Franco Fagioli, por la amplitud de su registro, sus agudos, sus graves y el sentimiento que le imprime a su interpretación, no se queda meramente sólo con la técnica.
    Saludos desde Buenos Aires - Argentina

  • @italovasquez5508
    @italovasquez5508 2 роки тому +11

    Fagioli for sure

  • @sravanaastrid3749
    @sravanaastrid3749 2 роки тому +10

    Superbes les 3... Cencic une musicalité exceptionnelle. Stutzmann pour la chaleur de cette voix si particulière. Fagioli reste mon préféré car sa voix est sans doute une des plus belles du monde et il chante vraiment comme les castrats

    • @maitestorchi2497
      @maitestorchi2497 2 роки тому +4

      Oui, je suis d'accord ! Les grands castrats chantaient sur 3 octaves et n'hésitaient pas à employer leur voix de poitrine, les compositeurs le savaient bien .....et nous aussi, et on apprécie leur génie !

  • @gavrinmahaffey3656
    @gavrinmahaffey3656 3 роки тому +11

    Fagioli is wonderful!

  • @davidayn2853
    @davidayn2853 3 роки тому +11

    Fagioli, of course. He sings with enveloping richness and impassioned sensitivity.

  • @maitestorchi2497
    @maitestorchi2497 3 роки тому +11

    🙏🙏🙏 Ah Fagioli....Sa voix a du corps, elle est chargée d'émotion ....Elle ondule, elle danse tout naturellement avec cette musique magnifique de Porpora .....Merci !

  • @caropimpinone1124
    @caropimpinone1124 3 роки тому +11

    Fagioli...he´s so good...he´s my God

  • @lauracompagnoni1239
    @lauracompagnoni1239 2 роки тому +8

    In the morning it's Fagioli that Iike, in the afternoon Stutzman, but in the night Cencic!

  • @Mikhail_Rogov
    @Mikhail_Rogov Рік тому +6

    Nathalie Stutzmann - one love!

  • @sergeoff1856
    @sergeoff1856 3 роки тому +8

    I adore all of them ...
    But - Franco ! - these sounds are ... - delight !!

  • @dorra_addo
    @dorra_addo Рік тому +7

    Franco Fagioli is the Best! Perfectly!!!

  • @michaelgrieve7578
    @michaelgrieve7578 3 роки тому +4

    I just love the way Fagioli just comes onto his higher notes without any seeming effort. His performance is so restful but scored with underlining tension.

  • @manuelprimoprieto6870
    @manuelprimoprieto6870 3 роки тому +11

    Franco Fagioli has a nice voice. For me, he´s the best.

  • @svitlananetreba6017
    @svitlananetreba6017 2 роки тому +6

    Welche ist hat Franco Fagioli schön stimm! Vielen Dank unser Herr, dass diese Geschenkt gibt das Welt. Vielen Dank Dir Gott.

  • @joanngabrielson6571
    @joanngabrielson6571 3 роки тому +6

    Love 💘💘 Stutzmann and Fagioli the best in this series . Wonderful depth of emotion and lush vocalizations by both performers.

  • @antoinesaintexupery3451
    @antoinesaintexupery3451 3 роки тому +10

    Franco Fagioli!

  • @norriswarner616
    @norriswarner616 3 роки тому +6

    An ovation to all. Franco get thumbs 👍up for. It was warm with such ease. I hear a slight buzz on the top notes of Max, he's my no. 2. Brilliant everyone 👏

  • @andrebelzil7991
    @andrebelzil7991 2 роки тому +7

    Fagioli pour la voix et l’intensité!

  • @Meinzul
    @Meinzul 3 роки тому +8

    Los 3 son grandes cantantes.. Si hay que elegir me quedó con Franco Fagioli👏😘

  • @albertoannesi9540
    @albertoannesi9540 3 роки тому +10

    Fagioli!

  • @cristinadelfrancia2680
    @cristinadelfrancia2680 3 роки тому +7

    Marvellous! I like this aria so much, thank you all!!

  • @serenaluce
    @serenaluce 3 роки тому +10

    No doubt Cencic! The most beautiful, emotional and enchanting interpretation! The beauty of his voice alone is a knockout! :-) Grande Cencic! Bravissimo!

  • @MrPEIcanada
    @MrPEIcanada 3 роки тому +5

    Have to say I'm really impressed by Stutzmann who I've never heard before

  • @sheldonbazinga3985
    @sheldonbazinga3985 3 роки тому +6

    Pour trois de mes chanteurs préférés, j'oserais placer Franco Fagioli en premier pour l'ambiance, la rigueur et le rendu. Puis Max Cencic pour l'atmosphère baroque, la brillance et la clarté. Madame Stutzmann avec Porpora se perd un peu dans les ornementations et les respirations. Elle reste la reine incontestée chez Bach. Je les adore tous les 3

  • @lucianobezerra4380
    @lucianobezerra4380 Рік тому +6

    Cencic was brilliant !!!!

  • @jacquelinedumont5155
    @jacquelinedumont5155 3 роки тому +6

    Merci à Max et à Nathalie pour leurs grands talents mais ma préférence va à l’ interprétation pleine d’émotion de Franco

  • @vadimkejlin673
    @vadimkejlin673 3 роки тому +10

    Fagioli really surprised me - I tend not to like him in slower arias, he's mostly a "fireworks guy" for me - but he's pretty damn impressive (and expressive) here. I went into this thinking Stutzmann would utterly dominate the competition, but it ended up being neck-in-neck between her and Fagioli.

  • @mariamarinastavros
    @mariamarinastavros 3 роки тому +8

    Max Emanuel Cencic

  • @mauriciocotapos313
    @mauriciocotapos313 3 роки тому +6

    Los tres son extraordinarios Bravo, bravo....👏👏👏👏👏

  • @Mikhail_Rogov
    @Mikhail_Rogov Рік тому +5

    Max Emanuel Cencic is brilliant too...

  • @francisheperi1127
    @francisheperi1127 3 роки тому +7

    Fagioli for warmth of tone and voluptuous lower register.

  • @manuelruiz4648
    @manuelruiz4648 Рік тому +5

    Preci0sqs voces y musica

  • @frogmouth
    @frogmouth 3 роки тому +10

    I like them all. Nathalie is my favourite The low notes, the breath: it is the most tender.

  • @benbar-lev6685
    @benbar-lev6685 3 роки тому +9

    Stutzmann absolutely faultless just the depth and rich chocolate yet sparkle tone is just captivating

  • @user-we3lw7ed3h
    @user-we3lw7ed3h 3 роки тому +8

    Franco Fagioli~~

  • @oliviaplesan6110
    @oliviaplesan6110 2 роки тому +3

    Such Richness and Sensitivity
    FAGIOLI unsurpassed !
    Stutzmann is very good too.

  • @jlducv
    @jlducv 3 роки тому +6

    Franco Fagioli, por la potencia de su voz!!! Bravo!!

  • @UU-ww6hc
    @UU-ww6hc 3 роки тому +6

    Max again for me in this performance

  • @antoniettagrassi1622
    @antoniettagrassi1622 3 роки тому +4

    Non riesco a sceglierne uno.Splendidi tutti e tre!

  • @a.mie.533
    @a.mie.533 3 роки тому +7

    ...here it has to be Fagioli for the sincerity and warmth of his tone ...although Cencic's rendition might be more "baroque" in the sense of "artistic/arteficial"...

  • @igreks4891
    @igreks4891 3 роки тому +14

    Max Emanuel Cencic - the best here ) Bravo to all!

    • @elaporeba1156
      @elaporeba1156 3 роки тому +2

      Cencic bije wszystkich na głowę

  • @JacquelineLanceTenor
    @JacquelineLanceTenor 2 роки тому +6

    Such a hard choice because I love all three artists, but for me the order is:
    1) Cencic - best overall tone for the piece. Excellent drama in the voice and best sounding orchestra imo.
    2) Fagioli - best phrasing. Absolutely beautiful da capo.
    3) Stutzmann - best expression. Out of the three I like hers the least because she places a few notes in a way that doesn't sound quite right. But still an amazing interpretation.
    I am working on this piece now with my voice teacher because I have fallen so in love with it. I feel like it's the new Alto Giove.

  • @apremid
    @apremid 3 роки тому +9

    Fagioli.

  • @liviabrescia
    @liviabrescia Рік тому +8

    Nathalie per sempre, incofrontabile, inimitabile, inarrivabile. Manuel Cencic molto similaee Nathalie.👋👋👋👋👋👋👋

  • @rheinhartsilvento2576
    @rheinhartsilvento2576 3 роки тому +7

    Yes, for me it's Max, definitely.
    Wonderful fluidity, beautiful connection to emotion without it flooding everything, and masterful technique.
    But all three are wonderful - in their different ways.

  • @loetje
    @loetje 2 роки тому +5

    Cenciç is the absolute winner for me, from the moment the orchestra started playing, i felt; this is the most clear version, with the clearest choice in emotion; are we going very slow to tell the audience; hey, this is going to be one of the most dramatic versions you've ever heard? Or are we somewhere middel of the road without any choice, getting lost in ornamentations? No, we're going plain and old school warm drama, theatrical and very very consistent;; you immediately know that this ensemble isn't going to get lost; they know what they're doing and will be keeping this up till the end; like their lead, who knows how to tell a story. This is musical intelligence, this is wisdom. I love Franco Fagioli very very much l, and unfortunately Nathalie Stutzmann doesn't belong in this comparison challenge for me; it was as if she was singing the different parts of the story differently, and having trouble filling all of this ornamentation with colours and emotions. Of course Fagioli doesn't have any qualms filling ornamentations with colours and emotions, and i really enjoy him, but Cenciç was telling the story in one beautiful and golden breath and has stolen my heart AGAIN ( LOVE YOU QUEEN!!!!! you're a winner babe)

    • @rheinhartsilvento2576
      @rheinhartsilvento2576 2 роки тому +2

      Agree with everything you said🤗.
      100%.
      The most fluid, pure, precise emotional expression and mastery, crystalline tone quality.
      Just masterful.
      ¡Bravo Max!

  • @cassandrarosado8688
    @cassandrarosado8688 2 роки тому +7

    Nathalie's Stutzmann's voice is uniquely appealing to me.I'm not a trained musician,so it would be futile for me to give my opinion otherwise.

  • @lungchinchen6886
    @lungchinchen6886 3 роки тому +9

    FRANCO FAGIOLI

  • @maitestorchi2497
    @maitestorchi2497 3 роки тому +5

    Belles interprétations mais l'âme de Porpora, émotion, frémissements, trilles, extrême raffinement , je ne la trouve que dans le chant de Fagioli, avec ses subtils embellissements d'esprit baroque qu'il maintient jusqu'à la fin . Franco Porpora .

  • @MrMarcvus
    @MrMarcvus 3 роки тому +5

    Secondo me, Fagioli! Lui ha un buon contralto!

  • @user-dx7ye4oq3g
    @user-dx7ye4oq3g 3 роки тому +4

    Bravo franco.

  • @imeketenham817
    @imeketenham817 3 роки тому +7

    Quoique tous les trois chantent merveilleusement j’hésite entre Franco et Max.
    Finalement c’est Franco qui gagne cette fois, puisque plus dramatique.

  • @carolciliberti-noaafederal1780
    @carolciliberti-noaafederal1780 3 роки тому +7

    My vote is for Franco.

  • @sadettinpnar7404
    @sadettinpnar7404 3 роки тому +7

    Franco Fagioli

  • @mariovalencia7167
    @mariovalencia7167 3 роки тому +5

    Stuzmann primero, su voz es especial, el 2° lugar Fagioli, con esa musicalidad cavernosa tan especial.

  • @isaballaserrano4991
    @isaballaserrano4991 3 роки тому +4

    I love all here! Everyone did a such a good job! Bravissimo!👌🏻❤️🔥🙌🏻

  • @franciscoe.novalessalinas4981
    @franciscoe.novalessalinas4981 3 роки тому +9

    GENIAL TRES VOCES EXTRAORDINARIAS Y MUY PARTICULARES.
    NATALIE, MÁX, FRANCO. GRACIAS DESDE MÉXICO

    • @gillilra011
      @gillilra011 3 роки тому +1

      Cencic has the more ‘authentic’ sound for me, many modern countertenors seem determined to add a velvety gloss, more suitable for the Victorian music hall stage. Just my opinion, but then again I am moved to tears by some of Orlinski’s performances, so not really the purist I pretend to be!

  • @svetlanakhodachenko3841
    @svetlanakhodachenko3841 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you very much. I'm very appreciated!!!🙏

  • @tsanchezts
    @tsanchezts 2 роки тому +5

    It will be because whenever I have heard this wonderful aria of Porpora, and they are all excellent performers, but I certainly stay with Franco Faggioli, he interprets the music of Porpora masterfully. Thank you.

  • @gfhit7520
    @gfhit7520 3 роки тому +4

    well, the winner here is clearly Porpora, with three wonderful interpretations of this aria (hauntingly beautiful is definitely the best definition). It's also very interesting that the three orchestras propose rather different accompaniment and they all work, astonishing!
    To my surprise, among the three singers I liked Fagioli the most: the voice sounds very good and he kept it simple but moving throughout. On the other hand, Stutzmann is almost expressionistic and sometimes this hinders the original 'affetti' of the aria to pass through. It feels slightly artificial. In addition, she sounds slightly uneven particularly in some high notes. But she's the one that takes more risks in the da capo variations with great effect. Cencic takes it at a ever so slightly too fast speed, which somehow makes him less expressive: sometimes it feels like he sings the notes without going too much in depth on the interpretation.

  • @attilasioreti2386
    @attilasioreti2386 2 роки тому +3

    Cencic! He actually gave me goosebumps.

  • @riverwildcat1
    @riverwildcat1 2 роки тому +2

    All superb! Truly gorgeous voices, exquisite warmth and expression.

  • @seanmarshall7529
    @seanmarshall7529 2 роки тому +6

    As usual, why not try to understand the artist's idea? They are all excellent long live the composer! Gratia Dei!

  • @alvaroferal2
    @alvaroferal2 2 роки тому +8

    Fagioli

  • @allakyuseva2625
    @allakyuseva2625 2 роки тому +6

    Cencic

  • @svetanegovora3009
    @svetanegovora3009 3 роки тому +8

    Franco

  • @megenberg8
    @megenberg8 2 роки тому +2

    all are #1 here! the greats are just being great (as per)!!!

  • @voynaimir3
    @voynaimir3 3 роки тому +7

    Max Emanuel Cencic, most definitely, plus he has the best accompaniment. Fagioli is my second choice.

  • @luisrueda7672
    @luisrueda7672 3 роки тому +5

    Maravilloso, hermosas voces, sin embargo Máx E. Cencic es sublime, así sin más es SUBLIME. Bravísimooooooo. Un deleite Gracias.

  • @outdatedchannnel
    @outdatedchannnel Рік тому +4

    Fagioli! And second Cencic!

  • @user-qm7ic9qv9f
    @user-qm7ic9qv9f Рік тому +6

    Ну конечно Натали лучшая : такие эмоции самые разные от тоски ,плача неуверенности до нежности и надежды и тончайшие интонации, что казалось сердце оборвется , вся женская суть в чистом виде проявляется и очень много нюансов в голосе и эмануэль тоже хорош но по своему, своей теплотой, глубиной, мягкостью и даже нежностью , но не такой изобретательностью по части интонаций, больше мужского, больше силы и какой т о прямолинейности, не гибкости, вообщем, тоже хорош. Про первого скажу --- не мой типаж, красиво и холодно

  • @marijanamartincic9168
    @marijanamartincic9168 3 роки тому +7

    Max Emanuel Cencic here

  • @WPThayer
    @WPThayer 3 роки тому +5

    I usually much prefer Cenčić, but here I gotta go with Fagioli, more fluid and a softer sound as seems called for by the text.

  • @Tintinabulo1
    @Tintinabulo1 3 роки тому +5

    Ufff. Pues en este caso me es muy difícil decidirme. Las tres versiones son maravillosas. Quizás, y tras mucho dudarlo, me quede con la versión de Fagioli, aunque me gusta más la orquesta que acompaña a Nathalie Stutzmann. Pero las tres versiones son magníficas.

  • @JeanineBothof
    @JeanineBothof 3 роки тому +3

    Cencic beyond comparison with much appreciation for Franco and Nathalie, also accompagniment

  • @liviabrescia
    @liviabrescia 3 роки тому +4

    Nathalie Stutzmann

  • @joanngabrielson6571
    @joanngabrielson6571 3 роки тому +4

    I must add one !more comment on Stutzmann. From her opening phrases, she sent chills up and down my body. The timbre , the diction, the emotional impact are outstanding! I must give her first place before Fagioli.

  • @abaniko3713
    @abaniko3713 2 роки тому +4

    I am always enchanted by Nathalie Stutzmann

  • @mambury
    @mambury 3 роки тому +1

    Не могу выбрать.Исполнение Фаджоли и Штутцман каждое по своему великолепно!Ценчич показался несколько суховато-академичным!

  • @liviabrescia
    @liviabrescia 3 роки тому +3

    Grande Fagioli ma, Nathalie forever!!!!!

  • @esperanzadelosriosmartinez3744
    @esperanzadelosriosmartinez3744 3 роки тому +7

    Max Emanuel Cencic. Cuanta dulzura y exquisita interpretación!!! Bravo Max

  • @terrycloth6380
    @terrycloth6380 2 роки тому +5

    Natalie. No comparison

  • @svitlananetreba6017
    @svitlananetreba6017 3 роки тому +4

    The voices is with Heavens gave the God.

    • @viraostapenko7964
      @viraostapenko7964 3 роки тому +1

      Так, їх голоси це дар Божий - рідкісні

  • @jacquelinedumont5155
    @jacquelinedumont5155 3 роки тому +6

    Merci Max

  • @giancarloleonini3203
    @giancarloleonini3203 3 роки тому +6

    Cencic!

  • @surengevorgyan2739
    @surengevorgyan2739 Рік тому +2

    Nathalie!

  • @user-vr6gi8lw5c
    @user-vr6gi8lw5c 3 роки тому +3

    Для меня Макс Эмануэль Ценчич лучший!!!

  • @danicapopovik2350
    @danicapopovik2350 3 роки тому +8

    Max Emanuel Cencic is best

  • @user-wc8ur8ng6g
    @user-wc8ur8ng6g 2 роки тому +4

    cencic!!!! wow!! amazing!!

  • @GIROSSINI58
    @GIROSSINI58 3 роки тому +2

    PASTA giuditta E FAGIOLI franco FOREVER.

  • @stefanstamenic3640
    @stefanstamenic3640 3 роки тому

    One recommendation for your wonderful presentations: it would be useful for the listeners to hear Porpora's forgotten aria "Fugi dagli occhi miei" from "Semiramide riconosciuta"! It would be highly effictive as well to let us hear Hasse's "Siam navi all'onde algenti" from his "Olympiade" as there are so many singers who perform it: Nicholas Spanos, Max Cencic...

  • @riohenry6382
    @riohenry6382 3 роки тому +5

    Please stop doing this. Your previous posts have been so lovingly put together for the betterment of the music. Let’s not become like the classical opera fans who enjoy nothing more than tearing down their favourite artists with posts like “who disappointed you most ?”

  • @elviradiamantini1811
    @elviradiamantini1811 3 роки тому +5

    No doubt: Nathalie for ever

  • @user-qy5vx7mb7x
    @user-qy5vx7mb7x 3 роки тому +6

    Cencic.

  • @joaomaxconceicaodeoliveira1680
    @joaomaxconceicaodeoliveira1680 2 роки тому +5

    Stutzmann.

  • @ruthmcintyre2313
    @ruthmcintyre2313 3 роки тому +15

    Nathalie, of course: the natural beauty of the female contralto voice. In comparison, countertenors always have a somewhat artificial sound. In fact many arias mainly sung by countertenors today were actually written for well-known female contraltos of the era. Check out Nathalie Stutzmann's new album "Contralto".

    • @brunopicaude3092
      @brunopicaude3092 3 роки тому +10

      "Artifice" is the very essence of the baroque art, its substance. The baroque is a totally created world to magnify the life; so the voices are used in a complete created way
      to project us in an other reality. So, castrati, deep contralti, counter-tenors (or "haute-contres" in France), possibly super deep basses were "pop-stars"; the other ordinary voices
      were disdained.

    • @frogmouth
      @frogmouth 3 роки тому +4

      Fantastic CD. Great reviews too.

    • @Meinzul
      @Meinzul 3 роки тому +1

      @@brunopicaude3092 es

    • @philipwaghorne7082
      @philipwaghorne7082 2 роки тому +2

      FAGIOLI E CENCIC..STUPENDI TUTTE DUE.LETS JUST LEAVE THE LADIES OUT THIS TIME.....

    • @CarolYost
      @CarolYost Рік тому +1

      I think the countertenors are quite as good as Ms. Stutzmann. If only I could find an Rnglish translation of this aria!

  • @massimolunghi5289
    @massimolunghi5289 3 роки тому +6

    cencic