I managed to get the Necron boarding patrol a couple of years ago, and found a guide on how to convert the necron bodies with the spare lychguard parts to make praetorians. So I might get the battleforce and do that again, 10 lychguard, 10 praetorians, overlord, scarabs and void dragon would be a huge boon to my force.
In all fairness there is not much variation you can do with Knights as their roster is so limited. I think it would be nice if they added an extra unit to their roster. For instance a unit of 5 very small mechs or even infantry.
Nice video - you hinted at it, but absolutely for the sisters box, not sure about the others, feels like they have taken the old combat patrol and added some additional models - so very much a stock management approach of things they had left over after the CP magazine, and the switch over of the old to new combat patrols.
Upon seeing the boxes, I am inclined to get the Knights box or the Dark Angels ones. I collect sister of battle but think the box is just terrible for someone who already collects the faction. The other factions, I don't collect and don't consider collecting. It will all depend of course how the availability will be as I suspect both Knights and Dark Angels will be very popular. (I expect to see the Sisters one still on the shelves mid to end January)
Tau box is fine. Yeah i guess you can drop the keel for Crisis but they cost around the same for me in my country between the keel and crisis. You do want more commanders in Retaliation
Can you take the spare weapons from the lychguard and give them to the Warrior bodies and kitbash some better value if you have too many Warriors already?
You technically can but I think they would look very janky considering Warriors are smaller and way spindlier compared to Lychguard/Tryarch. I tried it and didnt like how it looks, but if you really want to save money, it works.
Its really all up to GW, but I have been there for every Battleforce release since 2018 and the very very popular boxes (Knights and DA this year) are going to be gone fairly quickly. Go talk to your LGS and ask how to best pre-order these boxes so you get one, or hope GW prints a few more of them and be there at 10/11am.
Like the Dark Angels box. Been holding out on updating my 10 Mace Deathwing Knights from the old models, since I used the 5 from the launch box as swords. Really good job with that one. Tau box is meh for exactly that your reasoning. Crisis Suits need to be in the combat patrol.
Its so hard getting your hands on these boxes because those idiot scalpers. I try to get the Dark Angels one so I can start my Deathwing Themed Dark Angels army. Also you missed the chaplain for that box which makes it roughly above 1000points Also do we already have a date for pre orders for these boxes ?
Its like the reverse of the Tau box. The Tau box is super cool and exciting, because big robots, but its not very useful and doesnt mesh well at all with the combat patrol box.
@@arn1345 it might not sell out instantly like the Knight box but i do think its an ok box, yes if the 1 rhino would have been an immolator this box would have been so much better but if you dont have a Rhino yet this is a decent. Else i would suggest to just kitbash the rhinos into immolators or their battletank as all sister tanks use the rhino chassis.
None of these boxes synchronise with what I'm personally looking for, so I'll skip these. But I can see that some of them could be good for people playing these factions.
Yep also learned that after the fact, so the new one is actually better. People were also wondering if you can build the Canis Rex out of the Questoris kit, and the answer is yes to that as well. That battleforce is going to be gone in seconds.
I would be very surprised if its orks. They are getting new kits left and right. Two new Kill Teams, relatively recent boyz, vehicles and other models, the entire beast snagga range is brand new. New editions lend themselves to give a faction a refresh and Drukhari need it the most imo. But we'll have to wait and see i guess.
@@EmpireofWargames They've had lots of new kits, but most of their core kits are from the mid 2000s. I could see it, mainly because they're significantly more popular. Genuinely probably going to have to wait 20 years for the update, like we had to before the Jes Goodwin range.
As a tau player the box doesn't feel even remotely appealing to me, in less than a minute I put together this one that I'd have bought instantly: Shadowsun (already have it, but a named is good in these boxes) 3 stealth suits Ghostkeel Stormsurge (a nice centerpiece that would have freed space in their storages) All for mostly the same discount value of the knights one and a far better in points that the one we got
@@Kingofdragons117 I could see 3, I don't know about 6. I dislike the crisis suits and wish they would get refreshed. But they are so key in a Tau army, so I understand why they are so useful and liked.
@@88atahualpa wanted to add that I am considering starting Tau. But I only like certain things. I like the Ghostkeel, I like stealth suits, shadowsun, maybe a storm surge. Don't care much for the commander or broadsides.... I dunno I am odd.
Dark angels box will sell out quick, necrons is kinda Meh, definitely not worth it if you have the Void dragon UNLESS you want every other unit or are just starting.
They didn’t mention Canis Rex in the trailer, so it may be missing the sprue with the special cannon and the infantry model. If you already have a Questoris then it shouldn’t be a huge deal, but would limit your options some.
I dont know if you got the update but you get the full sprue for every kit in this box. So you can build Warglaives, Helverins and the named Questoris variants.
@@RAINBOWBEARMAN atm it is just a rumor. but it comes from Valrak, and he is normally right. so really hope it is true as i would love for my CSM to add Daemon Perturabo. even got a 3D printed Daemon prince that looks like him :D
I hope 11th will focus on Drakari (I still like the name more than dark Eldar) and Eldar Vs Fulgrim, the Emperor's Children and Slaneesh. I think they said The Loyal clone of Fulgrim was with the Drakari. So maybe bring back loyal Fulgrim. Then either Guilliman or the Lion, hear of the Clone and get involved.
@@Rahab198 well it could also be orks but since 10th edition is retreading in the steps of second edition in a lot of ways I could see them continuing this homage by re-creating third edition.
@@Zabzim It could make sense that it would Orks. We've just seen the results of what happened to the Tyranids, after Octavious war. We have yet to see the Orks, the Imperium could have to deal with another Beast or maybe the Krok.
@@Rahab198 yes exactly. I think dark eldar have a good shot though as tenth edition really mirrored second and dark elder need a complete redesign because they’re supposed to be space pirates but they’ve not been very space piraty so a redesign from the three factions to maybe one ruling faction and elements of the others is the sort of refocus they want
the old one only had the Helverines but the new Armiger box has both weapon spures. So it is likley that the new battleforce will have 2 boxes of armigers with both weapon spures
I forgot the Terminator Chaplain.
I managed to get the Necron boarding patrol a couple of years ago, and found a guide on how to convert the necron bodies with the spare lychguard parts to make praetorians. So I might get the battleforce and do that again, 10 lychguard, 10 praetorians, overlord, scarabs and void dragon would be a huge boon to my force.
I wish they'd have the knights box as just a permanent thing, they'd make alot more money that way too.
Yes, these boxes ALWAYS sell out
The knights is the same same, but it's always tempting.
In all fairness there is not much variation you can do with Knights as their roster is so limited. I think it would be nice if they added an extra unit to their roster. For instance a unit of 5 very small mechs or even infantry.
@@Morrodin182 At one point, a long while ago now there was a box with 2 large knights and some armigers, this is more or less what I was talking about
Most of the boxes just seem weird. Not bad, just very weirldy structured and with a bizarre selection of models for a bunch of them
Battle Sisters are just pure shit
It's always mentioned, and I'm starting agree that they're just leftovers from the warehouse.
Don't forget about the terminator chaplain in the DA Box.
Nice video - you hinted at it, but absolutely for the sisters box, not sure about the others, feels like they have taken the old combat patrol and added some additional models - so very much a stock management approach of things they had left over after the CP magazine, and the switch over of the old to new combat patrols.
They HAD to put warriors in the Necron box 😂
@snix7613 literally, any other unit would have been more useful to Veterans.
@@EmpireofWargames
ikr, Necron isn't even my main and I have like 40 warriors or sth.
Also your "any-mancers over overlord" is on point as well.
Upon seeing the boxes, I am inclined to get the Knights box or the Dark Angels ones. I collect sister of battle but think the box is just terrible for someone who already collects the faction. The other factions, I don't collect and don't consider collecting. It will all depend of course how the availability will be as I suspect both Knights and Dark Angels will be very popular. (I expect to see the Sisters one still on the shelves mid to end January)
Tau box is fine. Yeah i guess you can drop the keel for Crisis but they cost around the same for me in my country between the keel and crisis. You do want more commanders in Retaliation
The tau one is ok to me specifically because I need just one more of all of those suits and are already full up on crisis suits
Thankfully I was about to start thd Dark Angels, next week. Guess I'll wait and hope I can get it.
Can you take the spare weapons from the lychguard and give them to the Warrior bodies and kitbash some better value if you have too many Warriors already?
You technically can but I think they would look very janky considering Warriors are smaller and way spindlier compared to Lychguard/Tryarch. I tried it and didnt like how it looks, but if you really want to save money, it works.
“Will be sold out in seconds” there goes all my hope for starting a dark angels army lol
If money is getting in the way of playing. There is the option of recast if you’re not playing tournaments.
Its really all up to GW, but I have been there for every Battleforce release since 2018 and the very very popular boxes (Knights and DA this year) are going to be gone fairly quickly. Go talk to your LGS and ask how to best pre-order these boxes so you get one, or hope GW prints a few more of them and be there at 10/11am.
I heard Nicholas cage is going to be playing Lion el Johnson. Because it'll be gone in 60 seconds.
@@Rahab198 I thought it was Rutger Hauer who played him in Split Second
@@biogoji8975 Yes, Good to I'm not the only one who remembers that movie.
Like the Dark Angels box. Been holding out on updating my 10 Mace Deathwing Knights from the old models, since I used the 5 from the launch box as swords. Really good job with that one. Tau box is meh for exactly that your reasoning. Crisis Suits need to be in the combat patrol.
WarCom Is down.
Its so hard getting your hands on these boxes because those idiot scalpers. I try to get the Dark Angels one so I can start my Deathwing Themed Dark Angels army. Also you missed the chaplain for that box which makes it roughly above 1000points
Also do we already have a date for pre orders for these boxes ?
@NorthInium no, but it's usually around black friday.
Yea the Sister box is pretty good for a new Sister player, like you said it aint exciting but its mostly all useful.
Its like the reverse of the Tau box. The Tau box is super cool and exciting, because big robots, but its not very useful and doesnt mesh well at all with the combat patrol box.
Not a very exciting a box tbh. It's going to be like the Army of faith box where no one buys it.
@@arn1345 it might not sell out instantly like the Knight box but i do think its an ok box, yes if the 1 rhino would have been an immolator this box would have been so much better but if you dont have a Rhino yet this is a decent. Else i would suggest to just kitbash the rhinos into immolators or their battletank as all sister tanks use the rhino chassis.
Dark angels also get a chaplain in terminator armor
None of these boxes synchronise with what I'm personally looking for, so I'll skip these. But I can see that some of them could be good for people playing these factions.
you missed a terminator chaplain in dark angels box
The knights 2022 BF, you only have enough to make 2 helverin and 2 warglaive, no option
The 2024 one you can make 4 warglaive or 4 helverin
Yep also learned that after the fact, so the new one is actually better. People were also wondering if you can build the Canis Rex out of the Questoris kit, and the answer is yes to that as well. That battleforce is going to be gone in seconds.
@@EmpireofWargames I guess GW are big fans of the movie 'Gone in 60 seconds' :P
Valrak has hinted orks will be the big bad of 11th edition.
Feels like dark eldar will never get refreshed. Maybe is 2089?
I would be very surprised if its orks. They are getting new kits left and right. Two new Kill Teams, relatively recent boyz, vehicles and other models, the entire beast snagga range is brand new. New editions lend themselves to give a faction a refresh and Drukhari need it the most imo. But we'll have to wait and see i guess.
@@EmpireofWargames They've had lots of new kits, but most of their core kits are from the mid 2000s. I could see it, mainly because they're significantly more popular.
Genuinely probably going to have to wait 20 years for the update, like we had to before the Jes Goodwin range.
For the Tau, I don't think it's too bad, they are all expensive models. But the knights are kinda a better value I think...
As a tau player the box doesn't feel even remotely appealing to me, in less than a minute I put together this one that I'd have bought instantly:
Shadowsun (already have it, but a named is good in these boxes)
3 stealth suits
Ghostkeel
Stormsurge (a nice centerpiece that would have freed space in their storages)
All for mostly the same discount value of the knights one and a far better in points that the one we got
They could have done a slam dunk if they just dropped the ghostkeel and broadside for 6 crisis suits.
@@88atahualpa Yeah, that does look like a good box
@@Kingofdragons117 I could see 3, I don't know about 6. I dislike the crisis suits and wish they would get refreshed. But they are so key in a Tau army, so I understand why they are so useful and liked.
@@88atahualpa wanted to add that I am considering starting Tau. But I only like certain things. I like the Ghostkeel, I like stealth suits, shadowsun, maybe a storm surge. Don't care much for the commander or broadsides.... I dunno I am odd.
Dark angels box will sell out quick, necrons is kinda Meh, definitely not worth it if you have the Void dragon UNLESS you want every other unit or are just starting.
Theres a chance the knight box is worse. It says 5 models meaning sir hector probably isnt an option.
They didn’t mention Canis Rex in the trailer, so it may be missing the sprue with the special cannon and the infantry model. If you already have a Questoris then it shouldn’t be a huge deal, but would limit your options some.
I dont know if you got the update but you get the full sprue for every kit in this box. So you can build Warglaives, Helverins and the named Questoris variants.
@@EmpireofWargames Sadly they updated it again and it's only the Gallant and Errant. But we do get both the warglaive and helverin options
I just bought the Void Dragon 😂
They all kinda feel weird to me, might get Necrons because necrons but they’re all kinda mid
11th is rumored to be CSM Iron Warrior themed with Perturabo Daemon Primach vs Space Wolves.
EC vs Greyknights has way better evidence.
Don't play with my heart. lol I would love to see Perturabo
@@RAINBOWBEARMAN atm it is just a rumor.
but it comes from Valrak, and he is normally right.
so really hope it is true as i would love for my CSM to add Daemon Perturabo.
even got a 3D printed Daemon prince that looks like him :D
I think drakri will be out in 11th edition
I hope 11th will focus on Drakari (I still like the name more than dark Eldar) and Eldar Vs Fulgrim, the Emperor's Children and Slaneesh. I think they said The Loyal clone of Fulgrim was with the Drakari. So maybe bring back loyal Fulgrim. Then either Guilliman or the Lion, hear of the Clone and get involved.
@@Rahab198 well it could also be orks but since 10th edition is retreading in the steps of second edition in a lot of ways I could see them continuing this homage by re-creating third edition.
@@Zabzim It could make sense that it would Orks. We've just seen the results of what happened to the Tyranids, after Octavious war. We have yet to see the Orks, the Imperium could have to deal with another Beast or maybe the Krok.
@@Rahab198 yes exactly. I think dark eldar have a good shot though as tenth edition really mirrored second and dark elder need a complete redesign because they’re supposed to be space pirates but they’ve not been very space piraty so a redesign from the three factions to maybe one ruling faction and elements of the others is the sort of refocus they want
nothing interesting for me this year, but mostly as i have all the model in them.
Will this Knight Box include only the Helverin Sprues? I think Chainbreaker had 2 Helverins and 2 Warglaives?
I would assume they just slam 2 Armiger boxes and 1 Questoris box in a bigger box.
Pretty sure they are the same sprue.
You'll get the option for Helvrins or Warglaives
the old one only had the Helverines but the new Armiger box has both weapon spures. So it is likley that the new battleforce will have 2 boxes of armigers with both weapon spures
Yep, you will be able to build Helverins and Warglaives in any combinations as well as the named questoris variants.
Are the dark angels terminators the new scale or old smaller ones?
@@kipa170 These are the new ones.
@@EmpireofWargames then I may have to invest. Thought they would be old non primaris sized ones
U can't take 8 armigers in battle from 2 boxes
They all suck.