I had a question, I’m installing a Yamaha F90 and Garmin 54cv on my boat. I want to run a NMEA 2000 network so I got the starter kit and interface cable. But I also have a round command link gauge (Tach) that I was going to install but I was wondering if I could run both the NMEA 2000 network and the gauge or if it’s one or the other? I’d like to run both since the NMEA 2000 will give me a little extra data than the command link gauge but I’ll most likely be using the Garmin for navigating so I’ll use the tach gauge when I’m navigating. Thanks!
There are a few interface cable for my f70 on Amazon some ranging from 35 up to 90 would cheaper version work, also my engine is not listed on any of them but you installed one on yours just making sure I get the right one
@Thesteveb333 Thank you! I looked it up and if you check out this link about half way down the page it shows locations for the E-tec hookup. continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/NMEA2000.html
Maybe this can help others: I found 3 un-used blanked plugs on my 2017 Yamaha 115. One was labeled 'SS'. One was labeled 'WW'. The correct one to connect the network cable to was an unlabeled WHITE plug that was capped off and had 2 wires going to it. It was located on the side closest to the transom.
@@astrodiver1 I also just found right there in the same area (2) pink wires. One Male capped off and the other Female capped off with White connectors and both taped together with yellow tape. I removed the yellow tape, removed the caps and connected these two pink wires which now sends tilt and trim angle data thru the network to display on the simrad unit also!
Were you able to customize the way your gauges display on your garmin? I have a similar unit and would like all of my data displayed like it is in the manual. Everything is packed into one screen with numerical values and slide bars vs a gauge look.
I recently replaced the analog tach with a digital "command link" tach. Wondering if the plug that I used on the F90 would be the same one needed to connect to the backbone? In other words, do I have a choice of using either the digital tach or the NMEA connection to the chartplotter, but not both?
Tony Hewett if i have two units (lowrance hds 9 and 7 gen2s) and both have their own power cable allready connected to 12v, do i still have to conner the nema2000 power supply cable as well?
ALSO, in my case I ordered the boat with analog gauges so the tilt and trim data was not connected. In the same area where the NMEA cable connect under cowl are (2) pink wires taped together with yellow tape. I removed the yellow tape, removed the caps on pink wires and connected them together. Now realtime tilt/trim angle data is sent thru the NMEA network also!
Great video and very informative. I have a Yamaha f100hp and a Garmin 65cv if i connect yamaha interface cable to my motor, to my Nmea 2000 and then to my Garmin would i get fuel flow and fuel remaining in the fuel tank . Thanks.
Yes you should, I don't see why not as long as your F 100 isn't more than 13-14 yrs old? What I do is manually set in the fuel amount after I gas up (if i add 20 gallons I'll conservatively input 19 gallons into the Garmin) after that it will keep track of fuel flow and level. I have filled and partially filled the tank a half dozen times since and it's been fine and agreeing with the analog fuel gauge on the boat. The Garmin tach and the analog tach have begun to disagree lately (by a few hundred rpm) not sure what's going on with that.
Love you video with the nmea 2000 i have a Yamaha 100hp and a Garmin 65cv after seeing your video i did the same to my boat how did you get fuel flow rate LITTER PER 100KM I can only get Litter per hour .
Awesome video! If I wanted to add another NMEA device, such as a second Chart plotter, would I simply need to add an additional T-Connector to support the additional Garmin? Would it draw from the same power source that is connected it the NMEA backbone? Any idea if a Garmin GPSMAP will work with an Echomap on this NMEA network? Sorry for all the questions, but I am excited to connect my F250 to my new Garmin and hopefully tie in the old unit as well.
Thank you! Yes, just add another T and it will draw from the same power source. I don't have an answer as far as compatible units because I don't own those units.
Great video! I also have a f70 and was wondering if you had to add a temperature sensor to the motor for your It to show the temperature? Or is it factory?
eric jensen, Thanks! I have a 2011 F-70 and the temperature sensor works by just plugging in the engine NEMA cable. As far as I know every F70 after 2006 should work the same.
Thanks for posting. Does the 54cv also show your engine hours? I just ordered a 54cv and plan to do same setup with my f150. I don’t have an hour meter now and was hoping that data comes through to the unit.
I don't think so. I checked out some forums and it seems possible on some of the more expensive units by going to "Gauges-numbers-then customize." I'm learning that all the Yamaha F series connectors are not the same so maybe the 150 will output that info but I have yet to find a menu for it on the 54cv. Please let me know if it works for you!
Good question. I only use the Garmin off the NMEA so it is powered by the NMEA backbone. The backbone is powered from a 12v accessory that I simply spliced into and use the acc switch to power the system on and off.
You usually dont want to power a nmea 2k system off of battery you usually want it keyed. Reason being is any sensors or anything that uses power from the backbone will constintally draw power. I don't think anything on this system is actually using power the echomap uses its own power cable and the engine cable should be sending data from the ECM
I agree about hooking up to the battery directly, some components like a wind sensor could constantly draw. In my case the unit is disconnected and brought into the house (rain ruined my last unit) and the master Battery disconnect stays off unless the boat is running. I "temple-larry" as I like to say hooked up direct to the battery but it's now on a switch circuit. Thanks Aubry!
Noob question here - what are you actually powering, when you run the power to your backbone. I’m assuming the GPS was already wired? Or does the backbone now supply the power to the GPS?
No. The Garmin requires you to enter the correct amount of fuel added to the tank and then it keeps track of fuel consumption via the ECU. It works great as long as you keep track of how much fuel you've added, then add that amount to the Garmin. Good question, I wondered the same until I hooked up the unit.
@@astrodiver1 I have actually seen the ECU for the fuel tank. It may be separate from Garmin (which I love the chart plotters), but I know for sure I have seen the ECU for the digital display without having to do the Einstein math you are talking about. I’m gonna call Garmin and ask them why they made that part so difficult lol
@@trentmiller7532 My boat's fuel sending unit does go back into the bundle under the cowling but doesn't show up on the lowrance cable going into the NMEA. Maybe another Lowrance output cable and another NMEA T and I would have Fuel/trim/oil press ect. I guess I'll have to look into which of the other 6 or so connections is output. Thanks!
Ok, so its funny when you call Garmin they only have half the info needed. then calling my Yamaha/Bennington dealer they say i need a Command Link and gave me a part number. Apparently from this good video I dont need that, Wondering it its the same hookups on my 2018 F300 (i have a NEMA Echomap Garmin) So how did you figure all this out?
You would need the F300 to NMEA adapter. A NMEA backbone kit (just the wires that connect tied in devices ) Then just the NMEA wire to your Garmin. You should be good. The NMEA system is just a bridge between your devices, engine,sonar,GPS, ect. It simply connects them.
This has to be one of the BEST how to videos on you tube! Thanks so much!
Your welcome Diana! I hope it helped.
Great job, documenting this project. Excellent explanation.
Currently doing this setup with Yamaha F50 thanks to this video
I'll be doing this on my F50. Any tricks or gotchas I should look out for?
Great video!! On the list for my 2006 f225 next year
Thanks for the video.. Just installed mine with your help.
Awsome, perfect and simple explanation, thank you
Hi thanks for the videos, they’re very helpful!
I had a question, I’m installing a Yamaha F90 and Garmin 54cv on my boat. I want to run a NMEA 2000 network so I got the starter kit and interface cable. But I also have a round command link gauge (Tach) that I was going to install but I was wondering if I could run both the NMEA 2000 network and the gauge or if it’s one or the other? I’d like to run both since the NMEA 2000 will give me a little extra data than the command link gauge but I’ll most likely be using the Garmin for navigating so I’ll use the tach gauge when I’m navigating. Thanks!
Excellent video thank you!
Superb clear explanation - thank you!
Great informational video good job
Great install vid. Only thing I would have added was a little dielectric grease to all connections.
Yes I agree.
There are a few interface cable for my f70 on Amazon some ranging from 35 up to 90 would cheaper version work, also my engine is not listed on any of them but you installed one on yours just making sure I get the right one
Make sure they are for 2007 and later Yamaha 4 stroke engines.
nice video - thanks!
Thanks Jason.
Great video- been wanting to see a Garmin
hook up for the 2000, I have a Etec 150 and cannot find where to to plug the backbone into
@Thesteveb333 Thank you! I looked it up and if you check out this link about half way down the page it shows locations for the E-tec hookup. continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/NMEA2000.html
Maybe this can help others: I found 3 un-used blanked plugs on my 2017 Yamaha 115. One was labeled 'SS'. One was labeled 'WW'. The correct one to connect the network cable to was an unlabeled WHITE plug that was capped off and had 2 wires going to it. It was located on the side closest to the transom.
Thanks ZASH! I'm sure that will be helpful. Mine is a '11 F70 with only 1 connector.
@@astrodiver1 I also just found right there in the same area (2) pink wires. One Male capped off and the other Female capped off with White connectors and both taped together with yellow tape. I removed the yellow tape, removed the caps and connected these two pink wires which now sends tilt and trim angle data thru the network to display on the simrad unit also!
Were you able to customize the way your gauges display on your garmin? I have a similar unit and would like all of my data displayed like it is in the manual. Everything is packed into one screen with numerical values and slide bars vs a gauge look.
I recently replaced the analog tach with a digital "command link" tach. Wondering if the plug that I used on the F90 would be the same one needed to connect to the backbone? In other words, do I have a choice of using either the digital tach or the NMEA connection to the chartplotter, but not both?
The power should be introduced midpoint of the backbone to provide even distribution of power across any devices fitted
Tony Hewett if i have two units (lowrance hds 9 and 7 gen2s) and both have their own power cable allready connected to 12v, do i still have to conner the nema2000 power supply cable as well?
@@finnsnracks2085Yes. The NMEA backbone requires its own power. Current draw is negligible (especially compared to your Lowrance sonars!).
ALSO, in my case I ordered the boat with analog gauges so the tilt and trim data was not connected.
In the same area where the NMEA cable connect under cowl are (2) pink wires taped together with yellow tape. I removed the yellow tape, removed the caps on pink wires and connected them together. Now realtime tilt/trim angle data is sent thru the NMEA network also!
If the pink wires for the trim are connected together, doesn't that also kill the analog trim gauge if installed?
I just bought echomap plus 94sv and I want to hook my motor up also like you. What parts would I need??
Now can I also hook up Kicker 9.9 motor to my Chart Plotter/Fish Finder ?
What is that gauge reading on the second page that you hoped wasn’t oil pressure?
do you need both kits that you talked about, i have f70 and have garmin head unit
Great video and very informative.
I have a Yamaha f100hp and a Garmin 65cv if i connect yamaha interface cable to my motor, to my Nmea 2000 and then to my Garmin would i get fuel flow and fuel remaining in the fuel tank .
Thanks.
Yes you should, I don't see why not as long as your F 100 isn't more than 13-14 yrs old? What I do is manually set in the fuel amount after I gas up (if i add 20 gallons I'll conservatively input 19 gallons into the Garmin) after that it will keep track of fuel flow and level. I have filled and partially filled the tank a half dozen times since and it's been fine and agreeing with the analog fuel gauge on the boat. The Garmin tach and the analog tach have begun to disagree lately (by a few hundred rpm) not sure what's going on with that.
Love you video with the nmea 2000 i have a Yamaha 100hp and a Garmin 65cv after seeing your video i did the same to my boat how did you get fuel flow rate LITTER PER 100KM
I can only get Litter per hour .
Mine only shows L/hr. I accidentally set my fuel capacity to 20,000 maybe that's the confusion?
Awesome video! If I wanted to add another NMEA device, such as a second Chart plotter, would I simply need to add an additional T-Connector to support the additional Garmin? Would it draw from the same power source that is connected it the NMEA backbone? Any idea if a Garmin GPSMAP will work with an Echomap on this NMEA network? Sorry for all the questions, but I am excited to connect my F250 to my new Garmin and hopefully tie in the old unit as well.
Thank you! Yes, just add another T and it will draw from the same power source. I don't have an answer as far as compatible units because I don't own those units.
Great video! I also have a f70 and was wondering if you had to add a temperature sensor to the motor for your It to show the temperature? Or is it factory?
eric jensen, Thanks! I have a 2011 F-70 and the temperature sensor works by just plugging in the engine NEMA cable. As far as I know every F70 after 2006 should work the same.
Does it show the hours?
Thanks for posting. Does the 54cv also show your engine hours? I just ordered a 54cv and plan to do same setup with my f150. I don’t have an hour meter now and was hoping that data comes through to the unit.
I don't think so. I checked out some forums and it seems possible on some of the more expensive units by going to "Gauges-numbers-then customize." I'm learning that all the Yamaha F series connectors are not the same so maybe the 150 will output that info but I have yet to find a menu for it on the 54cv. Please let me know if it works for you!
@@astrodiver1 I will
Question-did you keep the power supplied to the Garmin chart plotter? Does the NMEA 2k supply power to the unit?
Good question. I only use the Garmin off the NMEA so it is powered by the NMEA backbone. The backbone is powered from a 12v accessory that I simply spliced into and use the acc switch to power the system on and off.
Does the male plug on the motor end only use 2 wires? Are they blue and white or some other color?
It's been a while so I had to look at the video. @11:13 the white male connector has just 2 wires, blue and white.
You usually dont want to power a nmea 2k system off of battery you usually want it keyed. Reason being is any sensors or anything that uses power from the backbone will constintally draw power. I don't think anything on this system is actually using power the echomap uses its own power cable and the engine cable should be sending data from the ECM
I agree about hooking up to the battery directly, some components like a wind sensor could constantly draw. In my case the unit is disconnected and brought into the house (rain ruined my last unit) and the master Battery disconnect stays off unless the boat is running. I "temple-larry" as I like to say hooked up direct to the battery but it's now on a switch circuit. Thanks Aubry!
Noob question here - what are you actually powering, when you run the power to your backbone.
I’m assuming the GPS was already wired?
Or does the backbone now supply the power to the GPS?
The backbone is now supplying the GPS
Do you have to have a separate wire for the fuel tank? (Kind of like a fuel level sending unit wire)
No. The Garmin requires you to enter the correct amount of fuel added to the tank and then it keeps track of fuel consumption via the ECU. It works great as long as you keep track of how much fuel you've added, then add that amount
to the Garmin. Good question, I wondered the same until I hooked up the unit.
@@astrodiver1 I have actually seen the ECU for the fuel tank. It may be separate from Garmin (which I love the chart plotters), but I know for sure I have seen the ECU for the digital display without having to do the Einstein math you are talking about. I’m gonna call Garmin and ask them why they made that part so difficult lol
@@trentmiller7532 My boat's fuel sending unit does go back into the bundle under
the cowling but doesn't show up on the lowrance cable going into the NMEA. Maybe another Lowrance output cable and another NMEA T and I would have Fuel/trim/oil press ect. I guess I'll have to look into which of the other 6 or so connections is output. Thanks!
Ok, so its funny when you call Garmin they only have half the info needed. then calling my Yamaha/Bennington dealer they say i need a Command Link and gave me a part number. Apparently from this good video I dont need that, Wondering it its the same hookups on my 2018 F300 (i have a NEMA Echomap Garmin)
So how did you figure all this out?
You would need the F300 to NMEA adapter. A NMEA backbone kit (just the wires that connect tied in devices ) Then just the NMEA wire to your Garmin. You should be good. The NMEA system is just a bridge between your devices, engine,sonar,GPS, ect. It simply connects them.
So did you end up needing a Yamaha multi hub?
Don't suppose this would work with a 2-stroke from 97 ?
I don't think it would. The ECM (Electronic control module ) were used for the 2006 and up 4 stroke engines
@@astrodiver1 thanks for that,I have the same Garmin , but en is from 97,never mind.
did you resolve the gas reading ....????
Yes, I had initially set it wrong. The gauge and fuel flow meter works great! I have an update vid, ua-cam.com/video/wDNOlT5ZE6I/v-deo.html
@@astrodiver1 I have the same problem can you give me some troubleshooting tips? thnx
@@DrewVillion From the owners manual: SETTINGS > MY VESSEL> FUEL CAPACITY. that will get you to the place to set your fuel level.
Did trim work for you
Not on the Garmin. The boat already had a trim gauge so I haven't looked into it.
@@astrodiver1 shoot hoping to get that one working too on my f50
cant watch video!!
you are doing UA-cam wrong. You need 3 minutes of loud/terrible intro music, 5 minutes of BS and self promotion, and then 30 seconds of content.
Listen closely.... hear the dog whistle? Thanks Jeremy!
Thankfully not, almost never watch the first 25% of any vid