BLUETTI AC200P Portable Power Station Review | Solar Generator | 2000Wh | What can it power, Aircon?
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- In today’s episode we have a look into Bluetti’s newest portable power station, the AC200P.
This unit looks the goods, but what can it power, how long will it last and can it replace the need to carry a petrol generator? All these questions and my thoughts into unit will be answered in this video.
*Just as I mention in the video, Bluetti have provided this unit free of charge, however I have been given free rein to review and test the unit in any manner I feel fit.*
This power station houses a 2000Wh Lithium Ion Phosphate Battery and boasts a 2000W pure sine wave inverter, which can run at 2500W for 2 minutes and surge to 4800W. These are some powerful statistics, but can the unit live up to it specifications and reviews?
This unit is going to be great for anyone wishing to power regular household 240V appliances whilst away from main power. Whether you are using a stock 2WD sedan, or a modified 4WD already running multiple batteries, this unit can provide and expand existing systems, all while maintaining a convenient and portable system.
Sure, this unit won’t be for everyone however I hope this video has given you the information required to make an informed decision at to whether this product might suit your needs.
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*Great **Generater.Systems** so far. We have the same brand just a little less power. This one is so much quieter then our first one. Great buy*
Most detailed and structured review I've ever seen on ANYTHING. Subscribed to the channel without even looking at your other content
Awesome, thanks for the feedback mate! Appreciate it. Glad you enjoyed the video and hope you enjoy the content to come. Cheers, Nathan.
I just done the same😊👍🇦🇺
@@grahamwhittaker8844 Thanks mate!
I was thinking this the whole way through then scrolled down after the video to find this comment :)
Overall the Bluetti 200P unit including their 3 X 300watt solar panels cost $4,500 because of your recommendation. I have found the unit to be useless. When turned off over night it drops from 100% charge to 70%. The 3 solar panels when plugged in series should produce a maximum of 900wats & the maximum I get is 400watts. I have tried on several occasions to contact them & get no service & want return any of my emails.
Not really the same thing as a generator as they only store power not create it obviously.
These things are big in the US but I'm not sure about the "all in one" nature of them as if one bit fails the whole lot is stuffed.
Personally I prefer the battery box and component type things we have here as if one bit breaks you can replace/upgrade it if necessary.
Having said that these units look impressive and will only get better with improvements in technology.
Thanks for the video.
For sure, they are vastly different unit, however its exciting to see the technological advancements in this area, particularly for the portable camping/touring market.
As you mentioned it will only get better, lighter, smaller and more reliable. This is definitely a great start and a great option for many setups out there.
Cheers, Nathan.
i disagree with your statement.
if youre saying they can 'store power' a gas generator 'stores power' in the form of gas.
these 'create power' with solar energy.
your gas generator would 'create power' by you putting fuel into them.
@@XploringOz you can use both Blu iti for night hot chocolate and early mining coffee, win win I say, thanks for the reviews you do
I don't think the Bluetti is any competition for a Honda EU22i. They are both significantly different in their capabilities. The Bluetti is certainly a good combination of battery, inverter and chargers to enable a camper to become off grid capable. With all the specialist work done in a single box a user only needs to add solar panels. I think it could enable a camper to leave the gas bottle at home with sufficient solar panels attached. It's also a very good solution for home blackout power. I think you did a good demonstration of the Bluetti just leave the Honda EU22i comparison out.
Cheers mate.
I agree with you there. This unit is great for extending those off-grid capabilities or basic camp setups, but is a different type of unit than the Honda unit.
Although saying this, with these types of advancements in technology, I'm sure it won't be long before our battery storage and off-grid charing capability soon overtake the typical generator methods.
Cheers, Nathan.
exactly, EU Honda's are for solid continuous safe pure sign wave power demand and go till they need refueling, run a cement mixer on one outlet while running a computer on the other. I used a 20I for remote building on the smaller draws and a Honda 8kva for the bigger draws, the EU generators have spawned a whole bunch or copies like Yamaha and others. They can charge back up your motor home and RV when long term remote, but this power pack is a bit too gimmicky for me to see it as any comparison, but may be cool for off road camping. I don't really like it, I'd prefer to just have a panel and a big Gel AGM even if heavier and keep draws to a minium. I mean seriously who wants to take the toaster and hair dryer with them, gas stove and even a fire pit are what camping is all about to me. I'm not a suuucker for all this new expensive stuff. Nowhere did it mention the retail cost of the unit, it's very important factor in a review, perhaps I missed that part
I believe this may remove the limitation of energy. As in "you can always wait for more sun but you can't make more petrol in the field".
So it is a battery box with an inverter..
Will stick with my Honda..
Americans don't like it..
Check there post and comments..
Not Good...!!a couple of cloudy days need a generator..
Lithium battery &an inverter would take less room..
Hey mate great review, I think these types of units will inevitably start to replace petrol generators over time. I like the idea of not having to carry fuel and store it safely. Definitely on my list of considerations- cheers again.
Cheers mate, glad this video could provide some useful information.
Although it's not a direct generator replacement yet, the future is exciting for these types of power stations and their charging capability.
Considering fuel is now selling in NQ over $1.60L def getting more and more attractive.
@@devlinavocado6274 @Devlin Avocado Just thought about your comment a bit and came up with the following:
1L of fuel contains approximately 10000Wh of energy - if this fuel is transformed to electricity trough a generator, it may result in 25% of that power in electricity, which would be 2500Wh.
With that we can see, that charging the power bank (solar "generator") on the go with a gasoline generator may cost approx $1.60 in gasoline, and on the other side this power bank will have stored power equivalent to 1L of gasoline.
So on the bottom line, *the energy saved in this power bank is somewhat little, compared to a 5-10L canister of gasoline.* It still is a great addition, and in combination with a generator a pretty perfect fit. The shown Honda EU22i will run pretty quiet on 500W, which is what the power bank will draw for four hours to charge. After that, *Generator can be turned off, and energy is available for use without any noise, until the batteries are empty again.*
Conclusion for me: On extended trips off the grid, both units are required and desired, if available space permits.
@XploringOZ: Do you know if my rough calculation is correct. *Any experience already about the fuel consumption to charge the empty power bank all the way?*
@@devlinavocado6274 your comment about fuel priced at $1.60 made me chuckle, as 5 months later and we're hitting $2/L for 91... crazy times
When the graphine solar panels become more affordable, and there is portable wind and hydro generators available, then yes, giant batteries will work well.
Where these units shine right now is when you also have a petrol generator, and use that to charge the battery bank (along side any normal usage of the gas genny) and then be able to use the stored power and save on fuel. It allows you to bank the power made by a generator for use whenever and for however long one might need, especially late at night when a generator running is less than ideal.
Awesome review and thorough knowledge at an easy to understand level. One addition I would like to see is the ability to plug in a dc-dc charger to allow for better in vehicle charging. Thanks for the time and effort you put in, cheers 🍻
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it! Appreciate the feedback.
Yes, that! How hard could it be? IMHO, that's the one thing holding me back buying this unit. I get XOz uses an inverter, but surely DCDC would be so much more efficient. And you can't cheat by using the solar input because it has a 30V threshold. I trust there's a sound reason why, and it's not just so they can flog solar panels.
If I pulled up to a site with a solar powered generator I'd be ridiculed first then fired.
I'm used to the smell, noise, etc. Besides solar is ass and it's gonna cost you a child to buy sumthin solar NOWADAYS.
Fair enough, doesn't sound like this unit is going to work for your needs then.
You accept this product because it’s $2500! Products for nothing! The short answer to the video question is…No! They are still not powerful enough and take too long to recharge! So generators aren’t going any time soon! The solar panels you’d need to cart around to get 700 watts doesn’t matter how you got them wired and despite what the manual tells you, real world solar is the slowest! Charging with your car alternator is a good way to burn it out. So really the only reliable way to recharge them is the mains unit powered off the generator! These are only good to run things of a night which is what I use them for! Will Prowse review bought up many issues with this unit!
🤷♂️ I think a lot of your points here were mentioned in the video.
This is more to provide information to those who want an alternative. Maybe there are some issues with the unit, I can't comment of issues that I don't experience. For the average user, who doesn't pull the things apart of required every watt from the unit, it's still a good product 👍
You only have 17k viewers lol ya you took the money 💰.
Calling it a solar generator is disingenuous.
It is a solar charging port. Or a power station.
You have to have the solar panels to charge it
You have to have an inverter or generator to charge it.
If bluetti would make a 240 volt 30 amp, or 50 amp pass through charging station. Then it would make it much more convenient for those who don't have 2000 watt hour or 5,000 watt hours for solar panels.
Think about the RVs who go to a campsite can plug in the charging station, power their devices and still have a good charge when they leave.
Until then you're going to need a generator.
For sure, there are limitations to this unit and it won't be able to replace the typical generator in its current form. However its exciting to see how technology is quickly advancing. This unit will still provide great benefit to certain types of caravanner's and campers.
Cheers, Nathan.
Great review. Very well explained for everyone to understand. I can see these units getting better and better as new technologies come in. My problem is that while my 20 year old Honda generator is still going strong, the cost of this unit is a lot of fuel while it's still going. Solar is awesome and I do use it in conjunction with my generator. Until solar improves in low light situations, I'll still use my trusty old Honda as my back-up through the day while offgrid. I thank you for your honest review though. Cheers.👍👍
For sure, this unit hasn't got ht capability to completely replace a generator unit but it sure is exciting to see the technological advancements and what could be possible in the not so distant future...
Cheers, Nathan.
Bluetti is owned by Shenzhen Poweroak Technology, Co. Ltd. This is a global Chinese company.
Sure is and making some great products. Hopefully Aus will get access to some of their new models this year that are currently out in the US.
@@XploringOz As long as people know WHO they are financing. No way in hell I'm supporting the CCP.
I’ll continue to use my Honda 2200 …. I use it for work 5-6 days a week and use less than 1 tank of fuel per day … rain,snow or shine it works great
For sure, these units are very different, but there are uses for both. The generator will still be able to provide power for a longer period of time with the current technology available.
Nice review! Interesting to see the Australian version AC200P having only 2 AC plug… i just did a review on it as well but the North American version has 6 AC plugs each having their own rubber.
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it.
Yes I've seen that version, I guess it would come down to the fact that this unit has to produce a huge 240V rather than 110V.
Cheers, Nathan.
35:05 Yes and NO, his statement was correct in 2020/2021. Today you can buy single pv-modules with the required 35V to get it working with a single one, like i do on camptrips with a single comercial module on the roof of my car
Excellent review. I am close to taking a plunge into the caravaning world and power is something i have spent alot of hours studying as I know my kids would like their comforts away for home, specifically my son and his PC (mini-ITX @ 250W).
Even if I didnt buy a power station, I can infer from this review how well a stand alone inverter would function with a high capacity, LiFePO4 battery bank.
Cheers.
For those days when I need more watt hours and the sun isn’t shining I have 4ea 12v 100ah LifePO4 batteries and a DC Charging Enhancer (D050S) Enable more charging methods like solar, car, and battery charging.
* 500W Max input. And yes I have a bi-Fuel 10,000watt generator as a backup to a backup😂 I do have 3 of the 200w Bluetti portable panels and 4ea 100w aluminum framed permanent panels for my Bluetti AC200P…
@28:00 Was the compressor on that home fridge actually running? Because a fridge with the compressor off doesn't draw much power.
i have my AC200P for almost 4years now, it never let me down.
im using it almost every day, at least 220days a year, when not on camping/shopwork/etc its used as a residential solar system for my home, powered with 4 regular pv-modules
ofcourse its outdated on userfriendly functions like Bluetooth and app controls in compation to actual models, but its still doing fine like on the first day
I bought this model for my motorhome, and when it's fully charged it's good for everything I use in the motorhome, the microwave the electric kettle etc etc, but when it comes to charging it back up using solar it's pretty crap to be honest, you need a mini solar farm array outside next to the motorhome,, I wish I had done a bit more investigating of this power bank before buying it, when you see the picture in the advert with a fold up 4 panel solar kit plugged into it, gives a false impression, so I wouldn't recommend it personally 😭😭😭
I’m considering solar panels but think the $10K for the battery is expensive so thinking of the Bluetti 200 to use like your house example where the fridge and entertainment is connected during the outage.
Noob question, I think you draw the power from the inverter outside the house, I assume the Bluetti 200 is indoor use only. How do you connect to the solar panels? Presumably there is an indoor socket wired from the inverter? I’m not sure what is installed when you “go solar”.
Wow!! That was so helpful. Thank you so much for this excellent review. We did some outback travelling (on UA-cam as Travelling Two) and my husband was the brains behind it all. He passed away last year just after the 200 series and trailer were sold. I am now in the middle of buying a new camper suitable for solo travel and set it up with the things I will need - and I realise how much I don't know. There is so much to learn. Thanks for the demonstation of how to work out how long you can use the battery for from appliances - you've helped point me in the right direction. Right now I just need to make sure I can run a coffee machine :) p.s. I can see this is about 2 years old so off to see if you've done an update. Subscribed and looking forward to watching your other vids.
Nice to see Australian review on this product, thanks! Will be nice to hear your opinion after 3-6 months of usage.
Thanks mate, I will make sure follow up when I've had some long term use of the unit.
Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz After extensive search on internet I ended up ordering AC200P with solar panels using your discount code, cheers.
@@ScientistInvests That's awesome to hear mate. I'm glad that my video was able to assist in that decision and I'm sure that you will be happy with the unit, just as I am.
Cheers, Nathan.
Absolute superb video again mate! This is the future of power and as solar is getting better and appliances more energy efficient this is the way to go in the next couple of years! Cheers mate 🤙
Thanks Simon! For sure, at the rate of our technological advancements, we are heading for an exciting future in the electrical generation and storage market.
This may not replace a generator at this stage, but it sure is a promising (and useful) start.
@@XploringOz sure thing Nathan! Have a great weekend 🤙
That’s not real world test mate! Once a freezer reaches its temperature it no-longer draws power. I am travelling around Australia with a similar unit 200ac pro with a 50ltr freezer and a 30 litre fridge and a 20 litre freezer (Yes that is 2x freezer and a fridge). And the only time I have any issues with having to pull out the back up Generator is when I refill with fresh meat, and no sun. Fresh foods need to freeze so the power draw rises in order to get everything down to-20c. And I don’t have fixed panels
I get about 3-4 days without having to put out solar panels but this is also dependent on the heat but I never draw over 200w and it is intermittent as not often do all 3 appliances thermostats activate at once and from my calculations I’m using anywhere from 15 watt hours per hour up to 40 watt hours under prefrozen food in freezers and fridge contents are at temperature but over night low temperature freezer hardly kicks on.
Don’t shy away from these systems, bring a cheap petrol generator as a backup up because petrol is not cheap and at home your power prices per kilowatt hour is between 40-70cents but in a petrol generator it costs you about $5 to produce a kWh
Wow. Well your review has come at a great time for me. Im a triker and also tow camper. Was doing up a system for the 2 fridges (1 in camper and another on the trike). Was looking at a 3 battery system but with all the dc-dc chargers, etc because all the batteries would be different sizes it was getting a bit expensive. This is a game changer for me. I just checked Bluetti on line because of your review, and the price is less, weight is less, chances of stuffups is less. So a major thank you for the review. An AC200P and 2x SP200 folding solar panels is just what I needed.
Awesome, thanks for sharing mate 👍 I’m glad to hear that this video has helped you and further you may have found the ideal system for your needs.
All the best setting up your trike and trailer, hopefully it works as planned.
Cheers, Nathan.
I've come to the conclusion that they both compliment each other very well. If I was RVing I would definitely take both on my trip. Solar powering means less petrol and money being saved. Bluetti at night and use the petrol genny to charge and top up the Bluetti during day time. I would still leave appliances at home where producing heat is a concern. Except the hair dryer. Gotta keep the wife happy. Better choices would be propane, butane and other fuel stoves that are very efficient at cranking out heat. But, electronics, camera and cell phones,power tools, medical cpaps and netflix would be Bluetti's strong suite.
I agree. I’m powering internet etc hardware with bluetti, dual fuel generator to aid charging and do a fridge and freezer. Heat is wood and various propane devices.
For sure, both have their advantages and disadvantages. I would also agree and don't often bring all the appliances with me. But as you have mentioned the ability to use the Bluetti system during the night is a big plus.
I also have a video coming out next week where I am starting to use induction cooking and this is working well so far.
We also find that we drive a lot during the day when camping, whether move from site to site or just 4WD'ing the area and are able to charge the Bluetti system from the vehicle, ready for another night.
Cheers, Nathan.
Outstanding review, sir. I enjoyed the easily understood, yet far from slow-moving, way you explained your findings. For instance, the way you explained the basic principles of power, and the calculation of watt hours, was extremely well done.
Thanks mate, I appreciate these comments. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and hopefully you can continue to enjoy future content.
Cheers, Nathan.
Nice review Brother , methodically thought out and tightly scripted, my only comment would be around workin your numbers for the fridge setup , you went for continuous draw over a certain time period, as we know in the real world once the fridge has fully pulled down to whatever you have set it too, it will be just a periodic maintenance draw when the compressor kicks in, so not a continuous power draw based on your calculations, to be fair you are being a little somewhat unkind to the Bluetti in that sense, but you go try making ice for your G'n';Ts in hot ambient temps 25 c plus and go opening and shutting the fridge multiple times the cost goes up amp hrs wise in my experience, add a few warm beers each day and you are asking for it. Thermal mass is key and it's best to pull down your fridge as much as poss with frozen liquids / meals the night before you head out, I do a lot of camping and boating in the summer months here in NZ, ambient day temps around the 25 c average, nothing like your outback, the fridge is the most power hungry by far, wrapping it up in thermal wrapping makes a big diff all the same, but it makes such a difference to your creature comforts it's a must in my books. Always wondered how well a Bluetti would go in a salt laden environment like the inside of a boat cabin , those fans have just got to suck up some salt air indirectly and that can't be good, I don't worry so much about my Honda 2 KVa as they build such good gear as a rule. Kris
Bluetti is leading the way with this tech. Their new EP500 Pro looks amazing and uses Sulfur Ion battery tech, which I know little about. Will it replace the gasoline/petrol generator? Hmm, I think that is yet to be determined. I also have the EU22i, or rather the North American version, the EU2200i. It's fantastic, very quiet, sips fuel, and I have an extended fuel tank that lets me run the unit for up to 80 hours without refueling, and gives me the option to refill the tank without needing to shut the unit down. Where it falls short, is from a maintenance standpoint I REALLY should change the oil somewhere within that 80 hour window. It has a tiny amount of oil and needs to be changed frequently for best results. It could run longer in an urgent situation, but for routine use I change it frequently. I have been running the best quality synthetic oil I can find, and change the oil at 50 hours religiously. It's quick to do, though and I have streamlined the oil change process to where I can do it quickly in just a few minutes, but it does involve a shutdown. I will say I can't attest to the unstable nature of the Honda. I carry mine every where I go, every day, in my work van. It has never tipped over, but then again I secure it.
The Bluetti is basically a computer. Much more can go wrong with it. Many more points of failure and nothing about it looks user-serviceable. Bluetti is also not nearly as established as Honda, so warranty or parts longevity might become an issue down the road. Also, the Honda EU22i/2200i has been around for years, and the EU2000i before it for even longer. They share many parts. So parts availability will likely be fantastic. Bluetti is working with a technology that is in its early days, and is experiencing explosive growth. I've watched Bluetti come out with new models time and time again. Newer versions, newer models, changes and modifications made. Will the older units become obsolete after time?
I want a Bluetti, probably the AC200 Max is perfect for me. Small and portable, and a good match to my EU2200i. In a perfect scenario, I would have a Bluetti AC200 Max, a full complement of solar panels, and my EU2200i to charge it when solar alone doesn't suffice, or in emergencies, or if demand calls for more wattage.
Another drawback of the Bluetti is self-discharge. I have read that it loses approximately 1% of its capacity per hour. Meaning, better turn it off when not in use. That's the same with the Honda, though. If I'm not using it, it is powered down.
I think the Bluetti and Honda complement each other rather than compete. I wouldn't want to use the Bluetti at a work jobsite or outdoors, ever. It would live indoors its whole life. The Honda, however, can withstand a much harsher environment. I can carry it to a jobsite and let it get dusty or dirty and blow it off real good with an air nozzle when I'm done. The Bluetti? Nah I wouldn't even want to take it outdoors.
If the Bluetti stands up to the test of time, it may have an advantage over the Honda. Now, the little Honda generators are very well engineered, and I have read reports of many people getting 7000 hours on theirs with no sign of slowing down. That's a good number of hours for a tiny internal combustion engine, but the Bluetti doesn't have moving parts. It theoretically could last much longer than 7000 hours. I'd be interested to see how these units begin to fail. Will it be the batteries that go first, or will it be the digital panel that becomes unresponsive? Or will one of the many ports fail? Or the wireless pads? Many more points of failure. The Honda has, from what I have read, the very best in inverter technology. I suspect Bluetti uses a similar quality of inverter, but Honda didn't pull any punches with picking the inverter to pair with their motor. The inverter in the Honda is a simple replacment module if it ever does fail, and they are easy to get online or from a Honda rep.
The problem is with both products. Both have electronic circuits and both are susceptible to capacitor dry-out and failure over time. Just like many older vintage electronics, after 10-15 years their components start to break down, leak and eventually short circuit or potentially catch fire. Unless you are an investor in rare earth minerals these units have a relatively short shelf life. They do serve a useful purpose short term, but long term it's a hell of an expense for a limited usage product..
I say that this type of unit does not replace the generator but allows the generator to be run less and at a time more convenient to the user for the extra noise level as the generator can be used to just recharge this unit when needed from cloudy/rainy weather which makes solar charging a non factor or run the generator to just take care of really higher difficult loads which would deplete the battery bank within a few hours.
Between the battery bank, solar and a generator it is nice to know you can pretty much no longer worry about running out of power.
Also being portable makes this much more handy use wise than a built in system.
That is for the pro's but the big con is below!
Here in the U.S.A. the main concern for me to purchase one of these is reports of poor to almost non existent customer service when people have issues and try to contact the company for warranty/rma or tech help.
I would be more concerned with a major component/ electronic board failing and not being repairable a couple of years after the warranty expired than I would about the length of time the battery itself last.
If the main electronic control board failed and you could not buy a replacement board you would then basically have yourself a very expensive doorstop.
This is the main reason I have never really been a fan of any type "all in one" units as if one section fails you may lose the functionality of the whole device.
These are not cheap units and for that reason even if it cost a bit more building a homebrewed portable unit using separate components which could easily be replaced or upgraded years later may actually be the wiser way to ensure you get a full life out of the dollars invested.
In Austraila sure, but here in the UK you still want a backup desil generator if you are going to be offgrid for more than a week, but yeh if you are doing it long term I think it's well worth the investment of buying the battery and solar pannels to reduce your significantly reduce your peteral costs. Although I suppose at that point installing a second alternator would be a better option and charge the battery off the sercond alternator.
Why were you whispering in your backyard when you were talking about solar input? :D
First time we have seen one of your videos. Well structured, great diction, really enjoyed it. Subscribed immediately. But I have a question. One fear of all single battery vehicles is leaving something turned on and depleting the start (crank) battery. I really would have imagined a small battery jumper lead being able to plug into the Bluetti to enable the pack to be used as an emergency start (jump) device just like some of those little lithium jump packs you can buy. Is this a Bluetti oversight or did I miss something.
I'm also breaking my rule about not commenting on videos because this one was so helpful. Thanks! A couple of questions - apologies if you've already answered them: Can you charge this unit while drawing power out of it? I've been looking at the iTechWorld 1300P that is supposed to be able to do this. And is it OK to leave these units out it in the sun or should you shade them when solar charging?
Thanks Jennifer, I'm glad you enjoyed this video and found it helpful.
So in the answer to your first question, yes this unit does support pass through charging. I was able to charger with solar and AC at the same time as discharging though AC and DC outlets just fine 👍
Secondly, it is strongly recommended that these units are charged in the shade. I'm not sure what there temperature cut out is, but leaving in the sun on a hot day whilst in use is almost certainly going to cause it to overheat, or loose efficiency at the very least. FYI, I've never had it cut out due to heat on me yet, but I do keep it in the shade.
Thanks, Nathan.
Without doubt one the most articulate and informative reviews of any product I've ever watched thank you well done.
Awesome, thanks mate I appreciate the feedback and glad you enjoyed the video.
Cheers, Nathan.
I'm late to this one Nathan, but with my new van due in late July, I'm starting to look at generators vis inbuilt inverters for the van. We will have 2 x 100amp hr batteries plus 2 x solar panels built in. Considering options for off-grid van use. as usual, professional, comprehensive and concise presentation. If there is a better reviewer on UA-cam, I'm yet to find them. Well done once again.
Thanks mate 👍 I'm glad some of my older content is still able to help out!
My Honda EU is still holding up very well and hasn't missed a beat. Would still definitely recommend 👍
I own the 200p and ordered the 200max&b230 combo.
Popular for this who are prepping for no electricity and no gas left…please be aware I have done a number of tests and remember, you only get 40-70% actual watts in good conditions. So, over always over buy solar panels. Glass panels (BougeRv) are best. Don’t wast time on 100 watt portable panels. Go for 200 watts.
Hey mate, thanks for watching.
So I've been testing out the 200W panels buy Bluetti and getting some very positive results in terms of their efficiency when in series. I received between 88% and 99% efficiency, which completely amazed me!
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Cheers.
Can’t you just turn all the lights on refrigerator on Normal and the heat on heatwithe the bluette and see how
Bought the 200 Max and the 420W solar panel, works perfectly. Though the panel is a bad design so I decided to buy the AC 200p. Had no end of trouble with the 200p. Turned it on for the first time, fault lights everywhere, orange icon for the PV/CAR icon and the AC load icon. Turns itself off at 2:16 every morning and the date is stuck on the 18/1/2020 at 10:4. Absolutely shocking customer support, although kudos to the guy on the phone who tries to help but has no clue.
It seems like the machine has been sitting in their warehouse for many years and it looks like it might even be a returned item.
Definitely do not recommend the AC 200p.
That's unfortunate mate, I'm sorry to hear that you experienced this.
Although I'm sure that there are going to be issues with a product here and there when they are mass produced, I can only comment on my experiences and even a few years on, my unit is still performing without a single issue 💪
Hopefully you can find a solution that works for you 🤞
Great review. Thank you. I have the same unit, and it is a great power station. 1 con. = the display with sunlight, you cant see nothing on the display. For the rest perfect unit.
For sure, these units are awesome! Market leading in their solar input allowances, but yes would have to agree with you there. The screen can be hard to read in sunlight.
You can’t see nothing, which means you can see something. Please use good English.
My understanding this is only a 40 Amp Hr battery. Draw 10 amps flat in 4 hrs. Draw 5 amps flat in 8 hrs. Normal secondary battery set up would be min 100 Amp Hr. Most 200 Amp Hr. I installed them.
Yeah, so not quite in this instance. aH really are not the best way to measure the batteries capacity. It may help when measuring at a constant voltage, but this isn't the case anymore and certainly not with this unit. However to try and bring it back into old terms, aH = W / V. So in this instance aH = 2000W / 12V. This therefore equals 166aH's, which is very respectable for a unit of this size given the included componentry.
Cheers, Nathan.
Your DISCLOSURE was classy. A lot of video people aren't as ethical as you are.
Cheers mate, glad you appreciated that. Try to be as honest as possible 👍
Great review, but why are you whispering outside?
Did anyone else notice that he called it the "AP200C"?
You can make as many excuses as you want but you have been bought so join the losers club. Your no better after all your dribble
Greed Greed Greed .😤😤😤😤
You care to explain what you mean by this? I think you may have your facts wrong
What a thorough and inspiring review. So much so, I would like to permanently put this Bluetti AcC200P in my new RV Ducato..Until now I am planning for the usual 200aH lithium battery linked to solar. I will need to be off grid a fair bit on rural properties with no power. I have a Honda 2000 generator., and was planning to put in 200aH lithium battery with solar . The roof will only take 300W at best. My question here is about the noise levels. I understand the Bluetti has two fans at 45dB noise , at least. I was thinking ofpermanent place in the van for theBluetti .
So, I am concerned how distracting this. Could be at night, the van has a 6amp DV fridge, hot water , the lights , the USB’s. In the day there is the tv , the coffee… I would appreciate your opinion here about which way do I invest into my power system. The Bluetti ;s 1700aH was a massive plus… but for the noise in the van..please assist .
Hey mate, appreciate the feedback on the video, glad you enjoyed it!
So the fans will only turn on with high temperature, or when the inverter is trying to output more than 1500W at once. Personally I have never had the fans turn on with heat alone, saying this I haven't used the unit in summer yet and powering 1500W at once would generally be for short peak period when using high powered devices. If you were to power 1500W overnight, the battery would only last a little over an hour.
If you are only powering low powered devices, then I would be confident to say the fan noise won't be an issue.
Cheers, Nathan.
It is only a battery backup and is no good for low solar days . For a short term backup yes it is very good 24 hours only for lights and phone charging only
This is somewhat true, however with significant solar input if you had the panels, it would still bring in some change. Granted it won't bring in the power a generator powers during similar circumstances.
One big fail here, unfortunately. T h e very slow vehicle recharge via a cigarette lighter. If you could charge at 35 amps via an Andersen plug inlet, looks great. But it is obviously intended for use as a plug n play for people with standard vehicles
Yes, that is correct. It's designed for the masses. I've got around this by installing a 1000W inverter into the vehicle that charges at the full rate of 500W when driving, and can also power other appliances, but this is just another expense that you don't really want to have to buy.
Cheers, Nathan.
This is the best review on You tube very comprehensive.
Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback. Glad you enjoyed the video.
Cheers, Nathan.
very comprehensive review, thank you. I see a method of use in caravan land as generator by day, Bluetti by night when AC power is unavailable i.e. off grid
Thanks David, appreciate that feedback. For sure, the Bluetti would be a winner at night 👍
Great vid.... We use sometimes... A gentrax 3.5...and it runs the van. Easily with multable items on including aircon...... Bit noisy.... But run it in back of wagon part with exhaust pipe fron a deisel heater. Going out of car through side window... Quite and works great....
Yeah, awesome. That sure would power a fair few appliances at 3.5kVa. Good idea insulating it within a enclosed area, providing you can get those exhausts out effectively. Cheers.
Great review👍👍👍👍 wondering what kind of pump that you used on Jerry can ? Post info would be helpful. Thank you for all videos
Thanks mate. I will be creating a video in the next month or so with all the details for this water pump jerry can including all the parts used.
Cheers, Nathan.
Great review mate, I found it very useful. And thanks for being very clear about the unit being supplied to you. One question I have - does it have support to stop charging at say 80% to keep the battery cycle cost down, or is the 2000wh already including some overhead?
Thanks mate, glad you found it useful.
It doesn't appear to have any of the smart charging or stop charging features at this stage.
Great review! Just what I wanted to know.
Can I ask, what is that 12v water jerrycan you are using? A custom made unit?
Yes mate, it was a purchased unit, but I ended up making a custom one down the track anyway - ua-cam.com/video/HU5wpRgLOU4/v-deo.html
No it can't replace a generator...it doesn't generate! It's a viable option for storing electricity produced by a generator. Wind,solar,hydro and a gas or propane powered gen..
For sure, this is correct, however the output is almost identical, if not better in the AC200P unit. Differing environmental conditions would determine whether or not is suitable.
Cheers, Nathan.
These units, even two years later are still no replacement for a gas generator. They do however, maximize the potential of a generator by allowing you to bank the power created by the gas generator. You can use a 2k generator on low, charge this, other devices and run any tools needed, at the same time. Then when the acute job is done, you have power stored up and ready for later use. That saves fuel and makes a gas generator more efficient.
This is great for nighttime use when a gas generator would be disruptive.
For sure, the tech, although slow is still improving but still not quite there as a replacement yet 👍
No, a battery pack can't replace a generator. Why? Because it takes too long to charge. A generator creates power as it runs, these things, which have their purpose provide power until they need to be recharged which needs either a generator or AC plug in taking abut 2 hours to charge. Sure there are solar panels and plugging into your vehicle but both of those ways take l6 or 7 hours to recharge it.
For sure, they are inherently different, however given how some people use a generator, particularly for camping and off-grid setups, this could be a very viable option to replace the typical generator.
Cheers, Nathan.
This dude nailed this review. Whether I buy this unit or not I will forever remember how thorough this review was lol. Do you know if the Goal Zero 100wat pannel will work on this?
Cheers mate, glad you enjoyed the video review! In relation the Goal Zero panel, it would solely depend on the voltage of the panel. My guess is that you would probably need two panels together to meet the minimal voltage requirements.
Cheers, Nathan.
Great review...definitely would consider one for emergency situations at the house...after all "the end of the world" will beee so much easier to take if you can have a cold one from the fridge well your watching "2012" on Netflix!!!.🤣🤣🤣
Haha, very true! Glad you enjoyed the video. Cheers.
You are going to run your home's fridge on this "generator" for very long.
I take it your'e sponsered , or affilated with this product. I shake my head. Ron.
I take it that you have posted a fully independent review on this product? 🤷♂️
Looking forward to it 👍
Why’s going on lately? Have you fallen off the face of the earth? Your UA-cam posts have become very few and far between
Hey mate, I'm getting there. Been very busy with a change at work and impending town relocation. Hopefully all for the best in the future and more time to work on UA-cam, but rest assured I will get back into it soon enough.
Cheers, Nathan.
I just got the BLUETI AC300 MAX (2048 Wh) with Li Fe PO4 battery that has thousands more charge/discharge cycles than the Li-ion batteries.
I'm charging the AC200 MAX with an Off Grid TREK foldable solar "blanket". It is 3.5' X 6.5' and nicely covers the entire roof of my 2019 MAZDA CX-5 SUV. I'll cable lock it through its grommets to the roof racks, run the wires into the trunk and to the AC200 MAX. End of the day I return on my 2 battery e-mountain bike and re-charge the bike's batteries.
Awesome mate, so glad hear that this solution is working 👍
Awesome mate, so glad to hear that this is working for you 👍
Very informative. Thanks. Looking forward to Bluetti bringing in the AC 50s and the EB 240 not yet available in Australia.
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it! For sure, I think this company has a lot to offer the Australian market!
Loved the review! However, rather than saying that you could run a toaster for 60 minutes etc. it would have been better to model an average day of a camper and explain it that way. "First, a cup of coffee, then 2 pieces of toast, then .... etc. and by partially charging throughout the day, we are back to full capacity." Thanks for all the effort you put into this review. It helped position it for me.
Power consumption calculations don't require a PhD. People just need to find the power consumption of their appliance and use BASIC mathematics. e..g Toaster 1200Watts: determine the watts per minute which is 1200 Watt / 60 (number of minutes per hour), therefore 20 watts, so for 2 minutes you would use (2x 20Watts) = 40 watts. Deduct 40 watts + the inverter consumption/inefficiency, which is approx 5% (5 percent of 40 is 2 - therefore 40+2) deduct 42 watts from your total battery capacity = (for a 2400 watt battery) you would be left with 2358 Watts. Repeat the same formula for your coffee maker, etc. Please don't expect others to perform these very basic calculations for you which I am confident you can perform yourself.
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed the videos. Acknowledged, I guess each individual power usage is very specific to each type of setup and what kind of appliances are being powered.
I hope this was able to help somewhat in determining whether it's suitable for your setup.
Cheers, Nathan.
Its not a generator. Rather an expensive battery that...gee...for extra money you can hook up to solar panels.
That's correct. It will also power all the 240V appliances and heavy low 12V appliacens throughout the night without making a sound... pro's and con's for both. It may not be for everyone, however if it suits some people applications it's a great product.
It's Excellent review i'm sold for buying one
Awesome, they are great units and this one is still going strong a couple of years on! 👍
Yes great content I to started a UA-cam channel for my reaching and some I have for others to look at many thanks Frank Gardiner Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
Thanks for your sharing
The quality of this review deserves 3 free generators in my opinion. You literally covered all areas of questions in regards to someone thinking about buying not only this product specifically but generators in general. VERY professional. Thank you for your effort in making this video. Subscribed just out of respect for you man👍
Great question silence or time.
I wish to know how the unit replenishes it's power that has been consumed, how does it float. solar panel or AC mains charging like a electric car? I didn't have time to watch the whole review but looks good but I'd prefer no wifi charging station, that's just too much of a gimmick and wifi is dangerous especially inside a metal box such as a car or van. I'm not sold on Lion batteries either I note they have an risk of explosion
The charging options are explained in the video, there are several ways you can recharge this unit.
Further, there is risk from everything, however this is a LifePO4 battery, one of the safest lithium battery chemistries on the market. So far, so good in my experience.
@@XploringOz Thanks. I appreciate your explanation on the safety of this style of battery. Perhaps unrelated but of note on Lion batteries, that I was horrified at the recent death of a young man in Queensland from exploding electric scooter which burned him so bad he died, obviously that product was not 9001 certified, well I'm assuming.
How come the capacity is in Watt Hour and not Amp Hour like all other battery systems?
Makes it hard to compare with others.
I tried to convert it but not sure what wattage I should use in the conversion.
Would be good if you could just say this is equivalent to 40AH for example.
Hey mate, not sure if you watched the entire video or not, but I speak about this specifically at 18:14. I talk about why it's measured in Watt hours and exactly how to convert between 12V and 240V amp hour calculations. The calculation is super simple. Volts x Amps = Watts.
In summary, Amp hours are only applicable when calculated based on the Volts. Since this unit uses both 12V and 240V, the amp rating would be different for both voltages. Watts can be calculate for both voltages.
Hope this can clear this up.
@@XploringOz oh thanks mate I must have missed that bit.
Great video, enjoying your channel 😀
@@taichiworld No problems, glad you are enjoying the videos.
Cheers, Nathan.
That's one of the most thorough reviews I have seen. Well done.
Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback and I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Cheers, Nathan.
Anything nice can be said for a freebie.
Definitely the way of the future for me but for now i think the ROI just isn't there yet also would like it to have Andersons in and out and much faster charge time off 12 volt
Sure, I completely understand that rationale. It may be beneficial to certain applications, but for RV owners the tech just isn't quite there yet.
Cheers, Nathan.
A 40amp dc-dc over the invertor i would be all over it @@XploringOz
FFS…..don’t talk so fast
This is a game changer! Great review as always 👍
Thanks mate! For sure, it's definitely an exciting future for electronics and battery storage, particularly for us campers and tourers.
Cheers, Nathan,
I wonder what would happen if you tried to charge it's from a 60 amp alternator using the AC adaptor some how
awesome review of the Bluetti AC200P, real use and great comparison to the Honda EU22i for practical use. Having several solar panels in series is it also possible to charge Battleborn Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO4) batteries using the Bluetti MPPT. What connectors is required for the 12v/25A...? XT90 to alligator for terminals?
Hey mate, so charging a independent 12V battery is something that I haven't tried at this point. I believe you could probably use the 12V/24V leads to charge though: www.bluettipower.com/products/12v-24v-lead-acid-battery-charging-cable
Cheers, Nathan.
Can I use it for my mobile van detailing business
I reckon it would work well for that 👍
wow nice blue T T
Awesome clip I just come across your channel the bluetti 2000wh portable power station looks like a fantastic product it would be something that I would be interested in checking out myself thanks for sharing such a detailed review hopefully one day I’ll be able to see one for myself I think these are the way to go in the future rather than a battery system built into a vehicle or a camper cheers 🇦🇺👍 ps I’ve liked and subscribed and hit the bell cheers
Thanks mate, I'm glad you have enjoyed my video so far.
I've found the Bluetti system a great potential alternative for a fixed dual battery system for sure. Not only that but it comes with the bonus of having an inverter and solar charger etc.
Cheers, Nathan.
Very straight forward video mate cheers bro
Thanks mate, appreciate it 🙏
Relax, so tense and the sunnies! Makes people uncomfortable.
Your content is great, but relax
Fair enough, always willing to accept constructive criticism, I'll keep it in mind moving forward. Cheers.
What year is that beautiful Land Cruiser. 😍
Hey mate, this is a 2014 Sahara model 🙏
Forgot about bluetti. Where u get your pant from?
Haha, can't remember mate.... 🤷♂️
Awesome thank you for the thorough review!!!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
Hello from the high desert of New Mexico USA 🇺🇸. If I had the 2600 dollars to buy that I would be able to replace all my batteries in my 1967 GM TDH-4519 city transit bus that I live in full-time. Keep up the good work and stay safe and charged
Hey mate, thanks for watching and commenting 👋 For sure, they are a great unit, we can only hope that as technology improves and becomes more widely available these prices will continue to decrease.
Cheers, Nathan.
Well done Nathan
Appreciate the comparison mate ✌
Thanks mate, appreciate it.
The 240 volt appliances? Except for 40-45 foot $300,000+ motor homes, who has ANY 240 volt appliances in their RV? Not even 1%.
Almost every Jayco caravan sold here in Australia has a 240V microwave? This is just one example, however Jayco make up for 47% of Australian RV sales, so I would say that many many owners have 240V appliances...
I feel lucky
Make sure to check out the new AC200MAX & new AC300 now out from Bluetti with extra battery capacity that can be added via the B230 & B300 systems - if max out the AC 300 of these together + B300 EXTRA batteries can get up to 24.6 kWh...serious longer term power. Over time...price of these systems will decrease as newer, more powerful systems come out. The batteries - new B230 & B300 - can also be added to the AC200P system to increase available power apparently.
For sure, I've seen some of the reviews coming out from the US. They look awesome and will have some serious benefits in the Australia RV market! We'll see what happens when they come over here...
Thanks for the cons as well as the pros (and the transparency of disclaimers). It really helps us consumers weigh up the end benefit when expending valuable weight of items to travel with. Cheers, dd
Cheers mate, glad this was helpful. This is exactly why I produce these types of videos.
Cheers, Nathan.
I just got my Bluetti AC200P on Aug. 31st. It is not reading wattage correctly amoung other things. Max Oak has just been giving me the run around. They keep having me make videos of the issues. Sometimes it will not show that there is any wattage being dispersed and when it does show wattage when I use more wattage it says that I am using less. I was very excited about getting one of these and when I seen that it was messed up I just thought " no big deal, they will just have to replace it."
WRONG!!! They are not being cool about this at all.
I'm sorry to hear that mate. The issues with the wattage sound like firmware issues, would you agree? I would assume, or have you tested to see whether the actually wattage is more than required, or is it only the display that is not functioning correctly?
I hope the company will come to the party and help you out and I can definitely understand your frustration.
Good idea
What about this... having HIGHER output alternator, or a higher output alternator dedicated to "only charging" the Bluetti. I'm asking if two alternators under the hood the primary alternator for the truck electrical needs only, the second charging the Bluetti only... sound good?
I assume this could potentially be possible, however I would tend to think that maybe this would over-engineer or over-complicate the process. Adding or modifying alternators would require custom brackets, custom belts lengths and place further resistance on the engine.
Maybe an easier alternative would be to add a 240V inverter, rated over 500W into the vehicle and have the Bluetti system charging from the supplied 240V AC charger via the inverter. This would be viable to do while the engine is running.
Could be another idea?
Cheers, Nathan.