Me & my dad made all the wiring harnesses for that Lotus, legendary car, team & driver ... Good times in f1. Ketteringham hall was like our second home
JPS was my favorite car. I loved Lotus cars. Senna became my favorite driver because he was the one driving it. Little did I know he would become an all time great.
That was his best looking car, he looked so bad ass. I like the McLaren but to candy cane, black is sexy and dark. With his distinctive yellow helmet it's
Será que existe nesse planeta alguém que não concorde que o melhor piloto de f1 em todos os tempos foi o brasileiro AYRTON SENNA? Senna foi o único piloto que conseguiu domar essa furiosas máquinas turbo dos anos 80.Máquinas que nem na reta eram seguras, balançam demais quando pisava no pedal direito. SENNA THE GIANT
Beautiful! Low, wide, very powerful, without electronic traction controls. Three eras were the best F1: Wing car with side skirts. Turbo was the 80's. And 10 cylinder 3000cc 19000 RPM. The after is boring!
Another monster tamed by the gladiator himself the legendary , Ayrton Senna the greatest F1 driver that ever lived. Remember seeing him win in Estoril Portugal in the rain, seems like yesterday. RIP Ayrton.
Brundle was a better driver that he was given credit for but he didn't get the F1 rides to prove it. Senna was quicker though - when they both competed in the F3 championship, Brundle would usually finish second after watching the back of Ayrton's car disappearing into the distance!
Yes it's great that former British drivers Martin Brundle and David Coulthard now work for the TV channels because they are qualified to do this sort of thing.
The good ol'days of F1. Put Hamilton in that car without all the aids of modern F1 cars, stick shifting and all, sorry but he wouldn't be half the driver Senna was.
And Senna maybe would be totally destroyed on modern F1 cars, because they request another kind of talent. About 15 years ago Prost said that if the FIA let the engineers developping all they wanted on the cars, only robots could drive them. Human body has its limits.
ziguigui22 what the hell are you talking about? Fernando Alonso drove Senna's car, and he was completely shocked by the difficulty of driving Senna's car, Hamilton in Top Gear drove Senna's car and he literally said that he couldn't imagine himself pushing that car to the limit, No ABS, No ESP, No traction control, absloutely No Downforce, manual gearbox, I don't care about technology talent as long as I do care about pure driving talent.
@@mulhamtaibani2256 cars aren’t like that anymore. What you have is a nostalgia for the past style of formula 1 car, not an appreciation of “pure talent”. What makes modern drivers any less talented? I’ve heard more than enough former drivers say that the newest generation is always the most talented.
Ffs 🤬. Like Concorde, arguably one of the most beautiful pieces of engineering ever created and yet not a single word of credit / hat tip to its creator, Gérard Ducarouge.
what would say about senna's first monaco race in 1984 in a toleman ? that was a fucked up car though he managed to catch prost at 3 seconds per lap from 13th to second
The Toleman turbo cars were bloody quick, but annoyingly unreliable. I was at the British Grand Prix that same year, when Derek Warwick was charging his Toleman round Brands Hatch, carving up the field and overtaking Didier Pironi to run in second place before a two-bob part broke and he had to retire. Before he had to drop out he was reducing the gap to Lauda who was out in front. I will never forget the cheer that went up from the British crowd when Warwick passed Pironi to take second place, on the main straight. Great days.
Senna 1st " standout race in the rain !" ( senna 3 seconds faster than anyone in the rain never ever even today has a driver been 3 seconds faster need i saw more ????? )
Problem with Renault engine was fuel economy reliability 85,86 87 it received Honda power plant, 1 spec behind Honda that powered Williams. When senna came to lotus 85 No one had won for years until senna came along, and no-one won after he left. 3 time world champion Nelson piquet became lotus driver 88 when senna went to McLaren. and best he could achieve was 3 3rd places, senna did better then that first year with toleman two 3rd places and one 2nd. 88 piquet had same Honda V6 that powered McLaren, but piquet, nakijima struggled to beat naturally aspirated cars With a lot less horsepower then their own
Senna was always dancing around in that car. For Brundle to feel confident and comfortable just means he was far from doing what Senna was doing in that car and was just driving under the limit.
Or that they have different driving styles? You can always put a car over the limit at any time depending on you who drive it. You can make a routine corner look like it’s on the ragged edge if you’ve made a mistake
@@Jimaybob No, a car only has one absolute limit under specific circumstances (car specs, setup, tyres, track conditions, track layout etc.), so all you can do is get as close to that limit as possible. Since we can't ever see Brundle go as quick as Senna in the same car while driving it differently, it's impossible to tell, but Senna's track record speaks for itself. It would be rather odd to somehow imagine Brundle actually being the better driver, with almost nothing to back such a claim. And it's ridiculous to suggest Senna was making mistakes while amassing those poles in a lesser machinery... Senna pushed the car as far as he could to extract the maximum speed out of it and if it meant putting the car sideways here and there, then a different driving style wouldn't have worked. That doesn't mean Senna was not being smooth or making mistakes. He just put the car at the right angle at the right speed. Especially back then with those cars and tyres, the cars were rarely going on rails at the limit. Of course nobody in their right mind would expect Brundle to push the car in such a test, risking his own life or at the very least, to potentially destroy the machine.
@@hristoitchov if it’s not possible to put the car past the limit in routine circumstances how is it possible to fishtail into the wall on a straight? Or understeer into a gravel trap at low speed? You don’t understand driving.
@@Jimaybob LOL, I've been racing for 20+ years, but sure, I don't understand driving. What are you even asking? What routine circumstances are there exactly while driving a race car on the limit? I was never talking about pushing the car beyond the limit and making a mistake, but getting as close to the limit as possible. For that to happen it often requires that you put the car at an angle, to reach the tyres peak slip angle and maximum downforce (which is always at a cross angle within a few degrees). Even in modern F1 it happens, but it's almost negligible and difficult to notice. With those cars back then, it was mandatory if they were ever to drive them on the absolute limit, thus Senna dancing around. Just go and watch his pole at Adelaide in 1985. Brundle never does that in this case, and he's only boasting to cater to clueless fans like yourself.
@@hristoitchov how is *he* the one boasting? He’s speaking of the cars qualities. He’s complimenting the car. Also, I’m sure you’ll find Prost had a far smoother driving style than Senna despite driving the same exact car as him for their respective championship seasons in 88 and 89. Do you truly believe that’s entirely a function of “driving to the limit” vs different driving styles, given their comparable results?
the engine was so loud, i could hardly hear any word of martin brundle! 😆😆 beautiful car, even more beautiful driver. only wish renault engine had been more reliable, ayrton would have had more championships. then, maybe, just maybe he would have made that desperate jump to that ugly williams which killed him!
Second, yes.. but it should have been first because Porsche employee Jacky Ickx ( who was the circuit steward ) controversially stopped the race prematurely just as Senna in his inferior Tolman had overtook Prost in his Porsche-engined McLaren. They bent the rules to say "its not the finishing order, but the order of the last complete lap that counts" to steal the victory from Senna. (Im sure you know this, but others might not).
who are you speaking to? you are an idiot, not everything is a conspiracy. If you knew anything, you would know that Steffan Bellof was actually catching them too and probably would have been the winner if the race went the full distance, rather than ayrton.
It also takes incredible skill to handle an F1 car with that power - not something anyone can jump into and drive anyway. Fortunately Martin Brundle is rather qualified in that direction!
The production quality of the BBC Sport from 15+ years ago compared to current day Sky Sports F1 is staggering...😮 Even the on-screen titles are all in the John Player Special font & colour, so much of these little details make the difference for the viewer...& you realise again & again just what a poor outdated production the Sky F1 offering is...
develop cars like this to the flashy-social media girls of today. keep the turbos, ERS and all that, keep the safety as it is today and please don put a "halo" on them. Make the tires fast and make them last mor than 15 seconds.
(...) make the drivers choose a set up and stick to it through the race. remove buttons from the steering wheel. they are draving not playing video games. no need to change the car on every corner. we can have top end technology and real racing with what we have now. oh, and we need a tyre war, like the one we had on the hearly 2000s....
This era was FUCKING AWESOME!
You can disagree but I think every Lotus F1 cars were not only HighTech but also prettiest on the grid
Imo the Lotus 98T and the Brabham BT52 are the best looking cars in the whole F1 history.
@@MoniFpsAgree👌
The best F1 driver of all time. The greatest F1 legend of all time. He made this car dance to reach poles.
this car is definitely in my top 5 favourite f1 cars due to its livery, design and noise it makes!
Me & my dad made all the wiring harnesses for that Lotus, legendary car, team & driver ... Good times in f1. Ketteringham hall was like our second home
JPS was my favorite car. I loved Lotus cars. Senna became my favorite driver because he was the one driving it. Little did I know he would become an all time great.
OMG, that sound...
We all miss you, Aryton
It's neat how Brundle speaks so highly of Senna in interviews too.
Take me back to the 80’s. I don’t like it here
Hear, hear.
The Benetton B186 from 1986, Gerhard Berger drove, was although a rocket on wheels, Quali mode 1300-1400 Ps, hand shifted
That was his best looking car, he looked so bad ass. I like the McLaren but to candy cane, black is sexy and dark. With his distinctive yellow helmet it's
Correct...I miss the turbo era.....
***** turbo back in 2014 but just 750 BHP not 1200 and 0 grip
+stephen rome Now over 950 hp though.
Será que existe nesse planeta alguém que não concorde que o melhor piloto de f1 em todos os tempos foi o brasileiro AYRTON SENNA? Senna foi o único piloto que conseguiu domar essa furiosas máquinas turbo dos anos 80.Máquinas que nem na reta eram seguras, balançam demais quando pisava no pedal direito. SENNA THE GIANT
I love the idea that they would just take the wastegates off the put on block off plates, 5.5 bar, 80lb boost, insane!
best looking F1 car
Beautiful! Low, wide, very powerful, without electronic traction controls. Three eras were the best F1: Wing car with side skirts. Turbo was the 80's. And 10 cylinder 3000cc 19000 RPM. The after is boring!
Senna o melhor de todos os tempos!!
I literally drooled in amazement!
Senna spirit , nice car 👏👏👏
SENNA THE BEST..........
the most beaultiful car of F1 history
Nataniel Mendes Agreed. A stunning car
The ending with "Purple Rain", just a breathtaking tribute to the Brazilian maestro
Another monster tamed by the gladiator himself the legendary , Ayrton Senna the greatest F1 driver that ever lived. Remember seeing him win in Estoril Portugal in the rain, seems like yesterday. RIP Ayrton.
Sounds and looks like a proper race car…not to mention a great driver behind the wheel.
It seems to be funny to be Martin Brundle. He drove so many different F1.
The best mad car. And the best mad driver. Lotus and senna.
Whatban outstanding car... Goosebumps aah
In 2021 we still have vakuum cars.. miss the good old Times
ok martin we give you now full Qualifying boost.
martin: the what?
..in the video he literally explains that the qualifying setup had 400 more horsepower
Senna was the black knight rider of F1 in that time, fighting against the greats cars like MacLaren, Williams...
Project cars... running this car with full boost... good luck!
Yes!
Elio de Angelis and this car just belonged together.
He placed 4th in the 1985 drivers championship and the same in 86' when he drove for lotus....
In my opinion this car is better than the MP4/4 that Senna drove for McLaren.
+Im a Fox, maybe this is louder, but the MP4/4 is quite a perfect beast
Well, in qualifying trim it has almost double the horsepower than the mp4/4. Lotus 1200 hp, mp4/4 620 hp.
In race trim they had around the same.
The Bennetton was the worst with it's 1500 bhp BMW engine but it was too close to the mechanical edge and broke down more often than not.
An MP 4/4 in JPS livery. My dream car.
FRANKIE GOES TO HOLLYWOOD - Two Tribes
Senna in the Lotus driving in the purple rain.
Just love it
My favourite F1 car.
This song is "FRANKIE GOES TO HOLLYWOOD - Two Tribes"
Frankie Goes to Hollywood - Two Tribes (Carnage Mix)
Brundle was good, but Senna was god! Thats why he score more F1 wins than Brundle!
Wow ... What a startling observation...
We are so lucky that you are here to tell us these things..
Brundle was a better driver that he was given credit for but he didn't get the F1 rides to prove it. Senna was quicker though - when they both competed in the F3 championship, Brundle would usually finish second after watching the back of Ayrton's car disappearing into the distance!
this interview with Berger, where can i see it?
sure, but i have no doubt he could have done it in any car on the field.
"2 tribes", by Frankie goes to Hollywood
Brundle or Berger?
the young black knight rider between the greats
I race designed to win. 12Senna
Martin Brundle Very good!!!!!
Yes it's great that former British drivers Martin Brundle and David Coulthard now work for the TV channels because they are qualified to do this sort of thing.
comenzando en la F1 uno grande
The good ol'days of F1. Put Hamilton in that car without all the aids of modern F1 cars, stick shifting and all, sorry but he wouldn't be half the driver Senna was.
And Senna maybe would be totally destroyed on modern F1 cars, because they request another kind of talent.
About 15 years ago Prost said that if the FIA let the engineers developping all they wanted on the cars, only robots could drive them.
Human body has its limits.
ziguigui22 what the hell are you talking about? Fernando Alonso drove Senna's car, and he was completely shocked by the difficulty of driving Senna's car, Hamilton in Top Gear drove Senna's car and he literally said that he couldn't imagine himself pushing that car to the limit, No ABS, No ESP, No traction control, absloutely No Downforce, manual gearbox, I don't care about technology talent as long as I do care about pure driving talent.
@@somedrytoast2307 that’s bs
@@mulhamtaibani2256 cars aren’t like that anymore. What you have is a nostalgia for the past style of formula 1 car, not an appreciation of “pure talent”. What makes modern drivers any less talented? I’ve heard more than enough former drivers say that the newest generation is always the most talented.
@@Jimaybob The most talented? Right.
98Tはデザインもカラーリングも良くて大好きなマシーン。やっぱりロータスはJPSカラーじゃないと。ルノーエンジンの耐久性・燃費の信頼性が高ければなぁ。
Nice he used heel and toe technique
Obviously hes an ex F1 driver!
This guy beated senna sometimes
the lotus 98t sound like sound V8 ENGINE WHITH TURBO AND TWIN TURBO V6 V8 ENGINE REVING
It would have been nice to see Brundle drive this on the limit...
Engine would have probably exploded if he tried, just like they did in the day :P
Car is too valuable to push it that far.
Great video about a great car, but why do we always have to put with that horrible racket competing with the narration and the sounds of the car?
You mean the wind noise?
Ffs 🤬. Like Concorde, arguably one of the most beautiful pieces of engineering ever created and yet not a single word of credit / hat tip to its creator, Gérard Ducarouge.
what would say about senna's first monaco race in 1984 in a toleman ? that was a fucked up car though he managed to catch prost at 3 seconds per lap from 13th to second
The Toleman turbo cars were bloody quick, but annoyingly unreliable. I was at the British Grand Prix that same year, when Derek Warwick was charging his Toleman round Brands Hatch, carving up the field and overtaking Didier Pironi to run in second place before a two-bob part broke and he had to retire. Before he had to drop out he was reducing the gap to Lauda who was out in front. I will never forget the cheer that went up from the British crowd when Warwick passed Pironi to take second place, on the main straight. Great days.
Lot better than that Zakspeed eh Martin?
Indeed, what Martin would have given to get a drive in a car like this.
Part 1:33 - 1:50 Notorious
Это моя мечта!
Senna 1st " standout race in the rain !" ( senna 3 seconds faster than anyone in the rain never ever even today has a driver been 3 seconds faster need i saw more ????? )
Lol at the 1:58 Gerhard Berger double headknotch
Problem with Renault engine was fuel economy reliability 85,86
87 it received Honda power plant, 1 spec behind Honda that powered Williams.
When senna came to lotus 85 No one had won for years until senna came along, and no-one won after he left. 3 time world champion Nelson piquet became lotus driver 88 when senna went to McLaren. and best he could achieve was 3 3rd places,
senna did better then that first year with toleman two 3rd places and one 2nd. 88 piquet had same Honda V6 that powered McLaren, but piquet, nakijima struggled to beat naturally aspirated cars With a lot less horsepower then their own
@Michaelis Arcanjo piquet was highly criticised 88 not just by my self but majority of people in f1 were we all wrong?
think drive this monster on the limit
Senna the black rider
Senna was always dancing around in that car. For Brundle to feel confident and comfortable just means he was far from doing what Senna was doing in that car and was just driving under the limit.
Or that they have different driving styles? You can always put a car over the limit at any time depending on you who drive it. You can make a routine corner look like it’s on the ragged edge if you’ve made a mistake
@@Jimaybob No, a car only has one absolute limit under specific circumstances (car specs, setup, tyres, track conditions, track layout etc.), so all you can do is get as close to that limit as possible. Since we can't ever see Brundle go as quick as Senna in the same car while driving it differently, it's impossible to tell, but Senna's track record speaks for itself. It would be rather odd to somehow imagine Brundle actually being the better driver, with almost nothing to back such a claim. And it's ridiculous to suggest Senna was making mistakes while amassing those poles in a lesser machinery...
Senna pushed the car as far as he could to extract the maximum speed out of it and if it meant putting the car sideways here and there, then a different driving style wouldn't have worked. That doesn't mean Senna was not being smooth or making mistakes. He just put the car at the right angle at the right speed. Especially back then with those cars and tyres, the cars were rarely going on rails at the limit.
Of course nobody in their right mind would expect Brundle to push the car in such a test, risking his own life or at the very least, to potentially destroy the machine.
@@hristoitchov if it’s not possible to put the car past the limit in routine circumstances how is it possible to fishtail into the wall on a straight? Or understeer into a gravel trap at low speed? You don’t understand driving.
@@Jimaybob LOL, I've been racing for 20+ years, but sure, I don't understand driving. What are you even asking? What routine circumstances are there exactly while driving a race car on the limit? I was never talking about pushing the car beyond the limit and making a mistake, but getting as close to the limit as possible. For that to happen it often requires that you put the car at an angle, to reach the tyres peak slip angle and maximum downforce (which is always at a cross angle within a few degrees).
Even in modern F1 it happens, but it's almost negligible and difficult to notice. With those cars back then, it was mandatory if they were ever to drive them on the absolute limit, thus Senna dancing around. Just go and watch his pole at Adelaide in 1985. Brundle never does that in this case, and he's only boasting to cater to clueless fans like yourself.
@@hristoitchov how is *he* the one boasting? He’s speaking of the cars qualities. He’s complimenting the car.
Also, I’m sure you’ll find Prost had a far smoother driving style than Senna despite driving the same exact car as him for their respective championship seasons in 88 and 89. Do you truly believe that’s entirely a function of “driving to the limit” vs different driving styles, given their comparable results?
I wonder how that car would stack up against todays F1 cars!
Take me back to 86, I could end the NWO for one time and for all
the engine was so loud, i could hardly hear any word of martin brundle! 😆😆 beautiful car, even more beautiful driver. only wish renault engine had been more reliable, ayrton would have had more championships. then, maybe, just maybe he would have made that desperate jump to that ugly williams which killed him!
Back when Silverstone was a good track.
1-10 he was driving that car at a 5 just havin fun with the down shifts lol i think he was about to go faster and the sun went down
😔😍🇧🇷
Anyone from project cars 3?!
No need for the insult, learn some respect!
One thing I don't get is this car sounds great but the current cars are also turbo's but sound shite..
Couldn't they have cleaned up the vocals !
they should put all the modern f1 drivers in the 80s f1cars and see who is the best and it wont be sabastian vettle
Second, yes.. but it should have been first because Porsche employee Jacky Ickx ( who was the circuit steward ) controversially stopped the race prematurely just as Senna in his inferior Tolman had overtook Prost in his Porsche-engined McLaren. They bent the rules to say "its not the finishing order, but the order of the last complete lap that counts" to steal the victory from Senna. (Im sure you know this, but others might not).
who are you speaking to? you are an idiot, not everything is a conspiracy. If you knew anything, you would know that Steffan Bellof was actually catching them too and probably would have been the winner if the race went the full distance, rather than ayrton.
The car had nothing to do with it huh?
WOBBLY MIC MAN
It depresses me that even if I had the chance to drive something like this, I wouldn't be able to because I'm too big. 🥺😢😭🤢🤮
It also takes incredible skill to handle an F1 car with that power - not something anyone can jump into and drive anyway. Fortunately Martin Brundle is rather qualified in that direction!
I hate the orange/yellow cast on this whole video
The production quality of the BBC Sport from 15+ years ago compared to current day Sky Sports F1 is staggering...😮
Even the on-screen titles are all in the John Player Special font & colour, so much of these little details make the difference for the viewer...& you realise again & again just what a poor outdated production the Sky F1 offering is...
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develop cars like this to the flashy-social media girls of today. keep the turbos, ERS and all that, keep the safety as it is today and please don put a "halo" on them. Make the tires fast and make them last mor than 15 seconds.
(...) make the drivers choose a set up and stick to it through the race. remove buttons from the steering wheel. they are draving not playing video games. no need to change the car on every corner. we can have top end technology and real racing with what we have now. oh, and we need a tyre war, like the one we had on the hearly 2000s....
+Nordi Mejia *driving
Nordi Mejia do you even know what the buttons are for? It's for differential and brake bias and engine mapping those should stay
i wished they never killed senna,
fuck you they did!
your keen arnt ya, theres too much evidence that proves it
you have your opinion, ill have mine, everyone noes it was no accident.
+francis kennedy That’s not an opinion that’s accusation of murder you idiot.
francis kennedy Sorry for stating the obvious.
This song is "FRANKIE GOES TO HOLLYWOOD - Two Tribes"
This song is "FRANKIE GOES TO HOLLYWOOD - Two Tribes"