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All the trim tabs I’ve played with over the years, the port bow down switch actuates the starboard tab and Vice versa for the STB bow and port tab. This is over many different brands, manufacturers, builders.
We've got Humphree Interceptor tabs on our 38 ft cruiser that are awesome!
Programmable for different speeds for the optimum ride and fully automatic leveling the boat out.
You earned another sub because of your name. My new birth was 24 years ago
Bennett "Bolt" tabs are all-electric. They come as a full kit, or as replacements for faulty Lenco actuators, and have a lifetime guarantee. Good stuff.
One benefit of all-electric tabs is not needing a spot for the pump. Nice for smaller boats, especially.
Kinda new to boating and always wondered what those were for. Thanks for the explanation.
Another use for trim tabs it to be able to get a heavy boat up on plane faster. I have to put my tabs all the way down when I start and this pushes the back up out of the water to get on plane faster.
They are a great aide on flats boat helping you get on plane in very shallow water with tabs all the way down stern is lifted on take off launch can be done with motor trimmed up more than normal and you slowly trim down the motor as momentum increases until you pop onto a plane
#yeti I have a 23 footer and the trim tabs didn’t work when I got the boat. Mine are hydraulic and I didn’t know anything about boats or trim tabs. Turned out to be just the switch. I took the wires loose and stuck them straight to the battery and the thing worked. So I spliced in a new switch and it made a world of difference. I use them all the time now! Makes a world of difference running through miles of gulf chop. I can bury the sharper part of the bow into it and it’s so much smoother. Guzzles gas, but it’s worth it.
I've had tabs on all my boats, from 17' to 29', inboards to outboards. I consider them essential. WRT to holes in the transom on a cored hull, do it right the first time and its never an issue. Drill holes oversize by a good margin. Then fill those holes with solid glass. Redrill the smaller holes required to mount the tabs. 5200 the holes.
There's also those interceptor designed tabs as well. They have them on the 41' Bahamas with the quad engine setup because the boat is so narrow the normal trim tabs would disrupt the water flow to the outside engines
Oh yeah, those are sweet! We don't really see a lot of them, I've heard great things about them though, I'd like to actually get to play with them :) I think they cost quite a bit more though then the conventional style tabs.
My new boat will have Lenco trim tabs. Looking forward to playing around with it
On my 22' Seat Hunt Center Console boat the trim tabs are required to correct the boat from proposing at higher speeds.
Gary Meyer trim motor in some until u stop porpoising make sure trim motor is trimming all the way in before trying
I won a bet (and an argument) from two seasoned boaters who laughed at me when I told them that activating the left (port) switch for "bow down" controls the right (starboard) tab and the right (starboard) switch for bow down controls the left (port) tab. Even after I showed them a document from Bennett explaining it, they still didn't believe it until they tested it on one of their boats.
Seasoned boaters are very reluctant to learn and test new procedures, must be an age thing for sure...
I had to replace the Lenco Control; switch and the Lenco people where extremely helpful in helping me diagnose the failure and the correct replacement. Highly recommned them. #yeti
You forgot Smart Tabs. They absolutely fantastic on small RIBs or small boats that have a lot of bow rise while getting on plane. No need to use and wear out power trim on every acceleration. The only contribute at the start and then they are virtually neutral. No drag like foil types that can limit your top speed. I’ve used them on as small as 310 RIBs with actuator placement change. Should be standard equipment in my opinion on some small boats.
Thanks for the info!🙂👍🏻
I would over size drill the mounting holes then bed with a top quality expoxy then redrill and seal holes.
Always countersink your gel coat too. Or it will crack, around the screws. 😉
#yeti great video, I just installed Lencos on my 23’ WA and the ride is night and day.
Thank you once again; I have just learned a weeks worth of great information, in 8 minutes!... I have the Lenco's and they have been good so far; in 40+ years (20+boats) of boating, it's my first boat with trim-tabs. At first I was over-using them. Now I use the engine-tilt to get on plane, and only use the trim-tabs sparingly to 'balance' the boat. (Is that a good policy?)... My last 2 boats were big, displacement, diesel cruisers; no trim tabs, so tabs have been a learning curve for me.... Thank you once again!
Hahah Thank you! Awesome! That's a lot of experience :) and yeah, that's great usage. Most of the time you shouldn't need them unless the water is just messing you up. Those parkers are usually pretty good without them most of the time because of the weight of the cabin :)
just gotta remember to put the tabs up before backing into a slip. doesn't maneuver the same in reverse when the tabs are down. #yeti
Good to get back to the regular Tuesday shows! Trim tab Tuesday! #YETI
I bought the trim tabs. Now I just need a boat to install them on. 😁
#YETI I run the lencos on my 22' ProLine and they work great. I upgraded to the new lenco system where everything is incorporated in the control pad last year. Keep up the great videos Aaron!
#Yeti. It might be worth mentioning that trim tabs can also help you plane at a lower speed and get you out of the hole quicker during hard acceleration. Great video!
glad to see a religious boater God bless you
At 01.32, it looks like the silhouette of the Statue Of Liberty.
#yeti Thanks for all the videos. We're new to boating and we've bought ourselves a 2004 seachaser 2400. I've used your videos to help figure out what to do next as we make this old girl a safe, dependable, and fun way to spend time as a family.
That's awesome! Congrats on the boat and thank you for all the support!
#yeti enjoy Tuesday. Thxs for all the knowledge on boating. Hope holidays are going good!
I think you contradicted yourself saying the trim tab down drags the same side of the boat down. Then you said if people are one side of the boat lower that side trim tab, which by your theory should lower it even more not raise it (like you said)!
you especiallly need them if you have stern or v drives
Hello Born Again Boating.
Trim tabs vs hydrofoil fins witch one would you recommend but it for your boat?
Bennett has hydraulic and electric tabs to compete with Lenco. I have had problems with Bennett not being able to work at full throttle. K planes would work at any speed if you can afford them.
#yeti good info. Mine just stopped working. Boat is out for the winter. Will be working on them to see what failed.
I lost my comment I started. Find later. My Mckee had Lenco tabs and I used them every trip
You figure quick the physics of what is happening and going to happen.
Great idea.
It like a big hand pushing down on bow. Smooth ride
well smoother, yea will create drag.
Don t just mash and hold actuators. Bump to make small changes till its rt.
just as an FYI, the LED lights on the trim tab control switches are triggered by the "time on", the length of time you have the switch(s) depressed, not the actual physical position of the trim tabs. They are just a point of reference ...
Raise the tabs all the way to "reset" the LED's
Bennett has electric trim tabs now.
Thanks for filming
Do you find that the turbulence caused by the tabs screws up the transducer for the fish finder? I hate it when the fish finder goes bonkers when the boat is underway.
#yeti. I don’t wanna be a critic but you should be using the key power relay on that connector on the dts harness. I skipped it once and hooked directly into it. It worked fine but when the customer wired stuff up later and needed key power he found that wire and over loaded it. It got expensive after that....
I guess I should have had that relay hooked up, that's what I meant :)
At about 1:50 you said putting the tab down on the heavy side of the boat will lift that side of the boat? Don't you mean putting the tab down on the opposite side will level then boat by bringing the opposite side down?
Kind of hard to explain, so the tab going down, creates stern lift on that side of the boat, which will bring it up, but creates drag, so it pulls the boat to that side, and at the same time pushes the bow down on the opposite side of the boat. Does that make better sense?
Thanks 🙏🏻
Is trim tab reduce the boat speed? Even if im leveling up the trim bows ?
Yes and No. It depends. It is the right way to trim a boat but not the only way. the ability to trim on the run is a major asset. deep vee's with stern drives benefit most. loads vary as do conditions. modified vee's do better. inboards do better if engine is located right. know your boat AND your tabs - do Not oversize trim tabs. the boat will be over sensitive to the controls.
Thank you
Bennet has electric trim tabs I have them on my boat
Do you like them so far? Im looking to add some tabs this spring, and am wondering which electric or hydraulic i should go with?
Fishy Hobby definitely go electronic less parts and faster/cleaner install like the video said all things on a boat break eventually but the electric tabs are faster to replace parts when needed
You gonna shrink down those connectors?
Oh yeti!! Thats some good info!!
can zincs be added to trim tabs to help prevent rusting?
#YETI Your videos and channel are top notch. Your explanations are right to the point. I love learning from Technicians Tuesday !!
Thank you!
Nice to have you back #YETI
Thank you!
#YETI love the channel!! So informative and easy to understand each video!
#YETI The set up seems simple and with this video I do believe I can take on this project and save some money when installing on my SeaHunt! 👍🏻
#YETI another great video. My new boat will have trim tabs and it will come in handy for sure
Any videos on 120 hp mercruiser 1987 citation thunder craft?
No, we don't see much of those down here :/
#YETI cant wait for tuesdays. Keep up the great videos
#yeti I need to see what all the hype is about these coolers. My igloo seems to be just fine lol
Great video!!!
#Yeti seeing #techniciantuesday videos just makes me want to start fixing my boat even though it doesn’t have anything to be done on it xD
Nice name God bless
You didn't mention how the trim tabs can make it easier to get up on plane quicker. #yeti
Using power tools to fasten bolts to your fiberglass is a bad idea. Take some extra time and do it by hand. If you over tighten that screw it will over size the hole and more then likely crack the gel coat around the hole. Patience goes a long way!
#YETI Great and informative video as always. Keep up the great work.
I have a helm I'm not too sure how to rig electronics wise and like cupholders and such, is there any way I could email a picture to you for some recommendations? I want a clean looking boat like you install. It's just a 19' Kenner Bay and I use it mainly inshore fishing on the coast of Florida. THANKS
Sure shoot me an email with the picture and then tell me what all you are planning on putting in the helm.
#YETI. I’m new to boating and your channel is very informative!
Oh #yeti!! Thats some good info!!
In some of the more "lightweight" systems, is this worthwhile on a smaller boat?
Depends, most little boats don't have them, but then like flats boats that are used in the ocean more, they usually come with them. So it depends on where you are boating to make them worth it or not. If you don't ever go offshore and usually are on a calm lake. They won't really help with anything :)
@@Nolaman70 Nice! Thanks for the reply! I'll check them out. 😁👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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#YETI Love your show, keep them coming
#YETI this was a very informative video as are all of the videos on this channel . I really appreciate the info and tips you share 👍👍👍
thank you , good video #yeti
i have a 2006 triton 195 CC with a optimax 150. i have an indicator on the dash that is supposed to indicate the amount of trim. it isn't working. anyway is it suppose to indicate outboard motor trim or trim tab position? it's a single needle gauge .
Its probably going to be engine trim and the sensor on the bracket is probably busted. Most of the trim tab indicators are more like bars that move up or down or side to side
Great video! #YETI
#yeti I have no use for trim tabs on my small boat but they are cool
Which trim tabs are more reliable, or will last longer? Electric o hydraulic?
Now a days, they all hold up pretty well during most conditions and they last about the same amount of time. They each have their own problems though, so it's hard to say one is better or will last longer than the other. Obviously, the electric actuators in the water, eventually fail, sometimes sooner than the hydraulic.
But, the hydraulic have solenoids on the pumps that go bad, and they can leak and have the pumps in the boat fail in the same amount of time. So, I guess it's more of a personal preference :)
Look at old boats with still working tabs, and almost all are hydraulic, with the pumps in a good, dry location. That being said, Bennett Bolts are electric tabs with a lifetime warranty, so either can be a good choice.
new subs
Most boats need trim tabs as they are shallow in the vee and under speed they want to fall over , bad design , most of these boats are top heavy , most are outboard driven and the motor foward thrust with speed lesson the waterline length making the boat unstable so the tabs level the boat up in rough weather they are useless as speed is the problem in fowl weather some of these things are on 35 footers up , so good luck.
#yeti .. thanks good infp
Where did u buy the hardware from like the bolts nuts and washers
Those came from having them in my toolbox from over the years. But you can get them from Amazon:
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Do u only use snap on tools or do u use others brands and do u have a tool truck that come to your job
Thanks for the information! #YETI
What brand heat shrink connectors do u use
Usually just the Seachoice connectors, only because they are a little cheaper than the Anchor's :) but they are both great connectors!
Hey would a 6/8 be enough for my 17 ftG3 thanks👍
#yeti..awesome video happy tuesday
#yeti good videos, keep them coming
trim tabs are a bandaid . get a hull vane. i watch all these expensive and high tech boats take off everyday at the no wake sign by my marina. they are all wrong. they are not balanced and all mass is shifted to the stern at accel. tilt and trim also require brute force to work. much fuel consumption and no go. i saw a 45 ft v bottom with a hull vane. it planed almost immediately and didnt plow tons of water to climb up on hull. look them up. it has no moving parts and can be installed with the boat in the water sometimes. im building one for my 30' sea ray . it's a 1976 deep v hull .normally planes at 12 to 14 knots. currently the trim tabs do nothing for mitigating the prop wash and directing it aft. instead it just boils the water behind the v. too much turbulence. my boat is a mid engine staight shaft inboard .with two 351 fords. the key is to align the wing with the center of prop wash . i feel it works much like a ducted prop but with less drag. the wing (vane) also creates lift as an airplane wing does. this balances the mass at acceleration and allows forward movement with less pushback from water.it also reduces wake by an incredible degree.
Hull vanes are nice, but they don't really work with outboards. :)
Hashtag yeti!😀
#yeti. Awesome job as usual
Aaron if you invite my fat ass you definitely will need trim tabs lol 😂 ooh welcome back I need video to watch going there now ta ta JT
#YETI I needed this video to hook mine up thanks
#yeti I so need to ad these to my Pro Line Sportsman
#Yeti another useful and informative video!
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#YETI riding true with my trim tabs
#yeti. i had a depth sounder installed on the transom and turns out its lower than the required 1mm. should i have them reinstall it?
Unless the spray is just out of control and it's reading fine, you should be fine. Usually the brackets are adjustable too. So you might be able to just move it up a little without drilling new holes :) if it's causing you problems.
@@BornAgainBoating haven't had any water testing yet. It was installed at the end of the season
Wait until you water test it, and see if it has a bad rooster tail. If no bad spray, deeper tends to read better at speed, but it's a fine line. I had a big side-scan 'ducer that made a rooster tail that sprayed exactly where the outboard's air intake was. Inside, the engine was literally covered in salt spray. Had to add a spray plate over the 'ducers to eliminate the spray, because it would stop reading at speed when we adjusted up enough to stop the spray. I have added a number of those plates over the years.
#YETI - Great vid...
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#YETI great vid as usual. Thank you
Thanks for the info #yeti
Always great vids #yeti
#YETI Learn something new every Tuesday
Electric are far superior, everything is in the actuators. They react quicker, don’t have a pump or reservoir, so less maintenance and issues.
I strongly disagree with this statement for a number of reasons.
1. On some applications, Lencos are "touchy" or hard to set right because they move too fast.
2. When Lenco seals leak, it fries the electric motor, and you need new actuators, but no lifetime warranty. It's just a matter of time.
By comparison, most hydraulic tabs last decades with no problem, as long as the pump isn't down in the bilge, where water can damage it. And "Tabman", a Bennett rep, has been known to send replacements long after typical warranty is long gone.
Bennett makes all-electric tabs, their "Bolt" series, made to directly replace the Lencos, and they DO have a lifetime replacement warranty. I've replaced several Lencos with these, and they are excellent. Only one ever failed, and a new one came in 4 days. Outstanding service and product.
Cool video. #Yeti
#yeti Great job!
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