I am awed by your depth of knowledge. I have just entered the shallow end of the streaming pool and don’t even know what I am missing as I have always just listened to albums, cds, and Apple Music. I just bought a NAD c328 and noticed the “streaming” RCA inputs and decided to see what they might add to my little set up. Thanks again for sharing!
Thanks for a very thorough review, Hans, and good to see you back. I believe you explained our product even better than I could have done myself! You’re right in saying we don’t mention SOLO’s DLNA capabilities anywhere. It’s not meant to be a hidden feature - it’s just an oversight on my part! We’ll get that part added to our website ASAP. Best regards, Henrik Reinholdtsen, Argon Audio
Your hint about the clean power supply for the SOLO is absolutely right! I also stream via SPDIF to an ARES II, and replacing the in-the-box switching power supply of the SOLO with an iFi iPower2 does wonders. Cleans up the sound coming out of the ARES II much more than expected! Highly recommended.
After having used my Argon Solo as a streamer to my low/mid cost-DAC, a Toppings D70S, for over a year (bought on a Black Friday's sale at discount rate), I just updated a few days ago with the SBooster LPS to feed the Solo, based on your review. Wow! Lots of additional space around vocals and instruments and as well a larger calmness in the sound picture and especially more natural sounding vocals. Money well spent! Nice 😊 Thank you for the recommendation.
I had the chance to test four of the "usual suspects" of streamers in an AB test with some friends. In terms of sound quality they results were quite amazing considering the vastly different prices. Price/value vise the Solo is amazing! 1. Bluesound Node 2i (the N130 was not out yet) 2. Argon Solo 3. Sonos Port 4. Heos Link Also, great to see you back in good health. You have the most grounded and informed hifi content on UA-cam :)
I have the Node N130 and am quite disappointed by it. The sound has glare to my ears. I wonder if you could get much better sound with something like the Argon Solo connected to a DAC like Topping D50s?
@@sdrtcacgnrjrc Tbh the super detailed sound of hi-res is wasted on me. I'm perfectly happy with the ifi Zen blue which is not real hi res but downsampled because of bluetooth. Sounds more natural to me than the node. And if you buy the node and use a different DAC with it you're just getting into silly money. Anyway, mine's for sale if you're interested and in the UK.
Jewelcase is the right word for it. Cause inside are for the price, hidden gems. I had a Sonos Connect with my NAD C326BEE & Dali IKON 2 mk2 speakers + Dali 100 Sub. I was pretty satisfied with this setup and thought it was as good as it gets in its priceclass. Then i found the Argon Solo second hand at a good price, bought it and set it up via Windows 10 & Tidal HI-FI. I was litteraly blown away with the improvement in sound Q. Sonos have always been said to be top of the line in entry levelmusicstreaming, but boy was i wrong. I even bought an Audiolab 6000N Play (What HI-FI Reward 2020) to try and upgrade from the Argon Solo, but I had to return it, the Argon Solo are just THAT much better. - It is King of its class. And it`s a bargin at € 280 it`s a steal (Only ships within Europe). And to You Mr. Beekhuyzen, tjanks for all your informative down to earth videos.
Thank you very much for this video. I bought the Argon Audio Solo - I feed it via Coax into my Audiolab 8200CDQ and it sounds amazing, when operated via Roon/Qobuz - much much better, than when playing a CD from my Audiolab or when using Airplay sources or when using my Sonos Play (all fed into the Audiolab digitally via Coax).
Right now, the argon audio cost 200 euros. I bought it and i m very pleased as well of the sound quality. Of course, i m not an expert of technology and sound. But i really enjoy it with my cambridge amps. Thanks for the advice.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel perhaps I wasn't precise enough. I didn't intend a criticism, it is just that I have waited for someone to produce something as simple/straightforward and (in its own time) very good. I used my Duet(s) until I jumped to an Allo Digione Signature. But... I still use the Squeezebox controller on it.
Thanks Hans. Great review. I myself found the Aragon Audio Streamer3, this unit does the same and have a small colour display in the front. Great, but small. DAB+, FM, Internet radio, Spotify, DLNA and a remote does it for me. Some day I’ll buy a better DAC.
Hi Hans, like your channel, thanks for your work. One question: I'd like to use Qobuz with the SOLO, but I'm not sure how it works. Qobuz is probably only accessible with AirPlay, Bluetooth and co. So I could use Qobuz with their native App. But my Mac has no Airplay (older version) and I don't like to use Bluetooth. So what does it mean for me? No Qobuz with the SOLO? Kind regards
Hi Hans, thanks a lot for this very clear and thourough review. I have one question: i like your suggestion of improving its sound by just using another power supply. Kan you advise us what the specs of such a power supply should be and where to buy a budget friendly version in the Netherlands? (I'm a bit of an electrotechnical amateur and i'm affraid to overpower the device if i buy a wrong one) Cheers from Eindhoven!
One follow up question. Could you provide a link or at least a written response on the specific external power supply you are recommending to use with this unit? Thank you.
Hi Hans, thanks for the nice review. I have a question. I'am just on the step to get into streaming. My equipment is very old but stil live and kicking and I look for an entry level streamer. So I saw reviews on the Argon Solo and the Bluesound Node and for me it is hard to decided which one. The Bluesound Node is twice+ the price but is it better? Maybe you can enlighten me a bit or do I need to look in an other directing aswell? Hoep to hear from you. Groeten en dank alvast. Han
The Bluesound is better sound wise but it depends on your stereo how audible it is. The user interface is also better and more streaming services are supported.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thxs for the information. I just ordered the Argon because pricewise it's the cheaper one and I don't need high-end audio for now. It is for now only for spotify. If it is not good enough then I can always send it back and order the Bluesound Node. At my age (65) all the high and low frequencies seem to disapear more or less. :)
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Thanks for the great review Hans. Quick question: what do you mean by 20% or 80% up rating ? With this streamer and Tidal would I be able to enjoy the Tidal improved quality over Spotify ? Or will I be limited by the Google Cast protocol ?
I also have the Solo and Tidal Hifi (CD quality 16 bit, 1411khz). I don't know if it's the different source files or the higher quality, but I can definitely hear an improvement over Spotify using the Chromecast protocol. Wider stereo image and more detailed sound in general, especially in the highs where I am most sensitive in my hearing. But as Hans summed it up already, it really depends on your equipment and your hearing.
This is an interesting budget device, the upgradability makes it attractive for tinkering with in my second system. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. A couple of questions. Is DLNA gapless? And is the digital output compatible with an MQA DAC?
Thank you for sharing info on this unit. Since it’s not available in North America (USA) is there something similar like this? Would you consider the Bluesound Node an upgrade on this?
Great video! Would you rather recommend this product or building own Raspberry Pi, and if, which DAC hat would you use? Because I understood not only DAC itself influences sound quality but other components (in the streamer, like chip and etc.) too. Thanks.
One more thing, was wondering if you have tried Audio Pro Link 2, and how it is in comparison with the SOLO? There is too little info. on that one. E.g. couldn't find which DAC they used. It has Ethernet socket, not sure if that is an advantage for sound quality?
Hi. Great review. I have a question. Do you think a dedicated streamer like this would make my system sound better? My system is apple tv connected to my tv thru hdmi. Then my tv is connected to my dac (arcam airdac) thru toslink. Amp is primaluna dialouge premium. Speakers are wharfedale evo. I love just streaming thru my tv. I want ro upgrade my dac to holo Audio spring 3 or chord qutest. Would that be enough for better sound? Or does my toslink setup thru the tv ruin my sound?:) For user experience i dont Need to buy one, but if it means better sound i absolutely have to:)
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel thank you🙂👍 is it then alot to gain getting an Aries G1? Or are we talking 5-10% increase in performance? Surely the dac must be the most important thing in the upgrade?
No, it isn’t. The streamer and the DAC are equally important. In your setup the streamer/TV Combi is the weakest link so I would replace that first. The Aries G1 would be a great update. After that the DAC could be improved since it’s below the quality of the amp and speakers.
Thanks a lot for the good review! I ordered the Solo and have been quite impressed by build quality and functionality. I could’nt get it connected via Roon with the Elac Discovery Server though which was my main intention. It does only show up as ‚not Roon certified‘. Did you by chance manage to acces it via the Elac/Roon Essential? Thanks and best regards
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thanks Hans, yes I will ask over there. Not done that yet since the Roon Community is always referring to Elac since Elac is 'responsible' for Roon Essentials. But Elac support has just not been answering at all when it comes to questions around Elac Discovery and Roon Essentials. Argon support does not know Roon Essentials and is referring to Roon functionality like 'stop and restart' which does not exist in Roon Essentials. I noticed that you have been running other Roon Ready Endpoints with Elac Discovery, so there is still hope, that it should work at some point. Best, TT
Hi Hans, thanks for an informative review. I have a few minor technical questions you may have the answer to. I wonder about the volume control and the output when using the internal dac via rca. Is the output at "full volume" around 2 volts? I only want to regulate volume via my amplifier and do not want it to cut or distort the signal. Many dac / streamers have a fixed mode but can not find the information about about this streamer.
Thanks for the great review, Hans! 👍 I'm thinking of adding a new streamer (replacement for Google Chromecast Audio) to my second system (hope it's an upgrade....😉). One thing I don't get straight... What is the max. resolution when streaming via google Chromecast with this device? 24/96? I'm using Amazon Music HD.... Which connection would you recommend (digital/analog) when connecting it to an 10year old Marantz SR6008...?
Dear Hans, driven by your review I purchased an argon solo streamer and hooked it up to my system ( marantz PM7000, Benchmark I dac, JPW Ruby 3 loudspeakers). It is working great. Would you insist on using a sbooster power supply with the argon ? Which model ?
Dear Hans thank you for the immediate response. I got a message from the british Futuretech, responding to a question of mine, saying "the Argon Solo Audio streamer does not seem to have a DC power connection as it seems to contain a Micro/Mini USB 5v socket ". I've also sent a question to Argon Audio, but with no answer so far.@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
Hello, do you think this device sounds better than the blue sound node I see you have ? Also as a record producer , the unavailability of old tape masters means many hi Res albums are sourced from old digital masters - they tapes long since decayed, so although they claim to be hi res versions they are resampling of 80’s or 90’s CD’s . For many small artists the label and the master tapes are long gone . And the majors never took great care with tape masters . I’ve had albums on Sony / epic/Columbia / Warner’s / v2/ creation etc etc all the masters long gone ! And thanks for helpful review
Hi Hans, really nice review, also like your take on Mqa, learned a lot. And I love the Mqa on my affordable Ifi Dac and Chromecast. Solo is very practikal since it has Wifi, Do you know how I set up Jriver for Solo? Do I need a special version?
Thanks for your thoughtful presentation. As I listen to you it occurred to that this would be perfect for me if only it had file storage so I can access “High Res Audio” files directly without WiFi. Is there a way? Or is there a product that does all that this does but added a TB or two of storage so that a few favourites can be played at supper high quality?
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel yes I know- I have watching you for some time. But in addition files can be stored and fed through cables. But not on this devise?
The Argon Solo has several modes to play music. If you want to play from your NAS, you need to install a DLNA or UPnP AV server program on the NAS. The best for music is MinimServer. That is free and available for Synology and QNAP. Then you need a DLNA or UPnP AV controller app on your smartphone or tablet. I use Glider on iOS which isn't free. But there are many free ones. On that app you select the source - your NAS - and the player - Your Argon Solo. Then you can elect the music you want to play on the app.
Dear Hans, Argon solo or yamaha wxc 50 (250e vs 320e) / yamaha with roon poor probably only airplay not sure for chromecast...point is streaming own music to amp from pc- hdds, not tidal..spotify or deezer..would like to hear your opinion which will adress me where to go
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel try to avoid mistake or to make better choice its correct to say...but thanks on clever respond...if i pick before your review could be too late or will not be...we will see😀 regards
Hi Hans, thank you for this review. I really appreciate the measured tone you use to convey the information. It's a relief after the hysterical clowning that seems to be mandatory for UA-cam presenters. I've read that the Solo will only support a maximum resolution of 16bit/44,1kHz over Airplay and Chromecast, with a possible 24bit/192kHz over Roon. Could you tell me what resolution is possible over DLNA, using, for instance, Jriver? Thanks again.
In conjunction with some high-end DAC's, such as the Holo Audio May, with their galvanic isolation and incredible jitter reduction, does it really matter, as it pertains to sound quality, what streaming device one uses ? I feel as though reviewers are avoiding this question or the explanation of why one bit-perfect device might be different from another, sound-wise, when paired as mentioned above, using the streamer's digital output into the optimal DAC input. So glad to see you back, and apparently doing well, Hans. I hope you'll update us on your procedure at some point.
I don't know about other reviewers but I am working for a few years now to dream up an explanation why digital sources sound different. Do you think I would have bought (yes bought) the Auralic Aries G2 streamer if it didn't sound better? Give me another one or two months and I have a video on the subject on line. I am indeed feeling fine. I presume you watched my report on the operation (ua-cam.com/video/nYG4t9SHQYA/v-deo.html) but did you also see the update in the description below the video?
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel No, I am certain that at the time of your purchase you chose the best sonic option. I was speaking more generally, as I can't seem to get a satisfying response from most reviewers. If you can come up with some reasoning for what you believe to be better performance, I would be thrilled (although possibly not my wallet). I did indeed see both videos and hope that future "tweaking" will bring you even more relief. Keep fighting the good fight, in both of these arenas. P.S.- I'm looking to acquire a respectable DAC and streamer in the near future, and my line of questioning is directly applicable to that endeavor. I am currently using an el cheapo DAC and streaming dongle, but have purchased, used, a PS Audio BHK Signature preamp and a BHK Signature 250 stereo amp. My speakers are a pair of the Joseph Audio RM25XL (also bought used).
The reason I can't give a clear answer on what DAC to buy is that it has to do with personal preferences, development of your auditory system, your gear and so on. Watch ua-cam.com/video/EykkzxUstL4/v-deo.html. You might also watch ua-cam.com/video/MonWnHnWHTc/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/flWAizq4AgI/v-deo.html.The Holo review can be found here: ua-cam.com/video/iAj_0WZT5Eo/v-deo.html
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel I'm sorry if you thought that I was looking for precise buying advice for a DAC, I was not. When I stated that my questioning was directly related to buying a DAC, I only meant that "if" an ultra low jitter and galvanically isolated DAC would negate the need for a hi-end and expensive streamer, it would allow me to save on the purchase of the combination of the two devices, or dedicate more funding toward the DAC. The mentioning of my equipment was only to give you a rough idea of where I'm at in my hi-fi acquisition process. Buying equipment, sound unheard, from the intricately woven descriptions of reviewers, is difficult, to say the least. I've been interested in stereo equipment reviews for the past 35 years or so, yet rarely taking action. I retired as a senior telecom technician after a 33 year stint, having some knowledge of electronics, though certainly not at the more granular hi-fi audio circuit level. With the closing of most of the high-fidelity shops during more recent years, advice like yours is extremely crucial. So out of necessity and enjoyment, I hang on your every audio-related utterance.
Hallo Hans, hoe sluit je Sbooster aan op de argon. Dat gaat namelijk niet met de bijgeleverde usb micro. Heb jij oplossing. Zag het niet in je filmpje.
I looked into this as I need a roon end point for a downstairs hifi. Unfortunately it's not available in the UK as they will not sell outside the EU. Shame because I would have given it a go, Node 2021 for me I guess.
Very good review, as usual. I had the unit for a couple of days and had to return it, unfortunately. The sound quality is as described here - very good indeed - but it loses connection to Roon all the time. It is "Roon Ready" and works well when it works but sometimes it only shows Airplay 2, sometimes both Roon and Airplay, sometimes nothing. Firmware update did not resolve this. Pity.
While trying to intergrate SOLO wireless streamer in my system via Apple Air Play the following signs appears in the selection in my Musik App: 地下室 61 Is that normal? should i select this sign as an airplay speaker?
Great video as per usual, just on the S booster psu. I have one powering my streamer (lindemann network mk1) for the last 9 months, when does this thing stop running in?!! I mean my system keeps getting better week after week. I can only assume it’s the s booster that’s improving with time. It has Truly been a fantastic purchase and well worth its quite hefty price tag.
I'm still at a loss re google home and chromecast: when I search online I am told (by various sites) that they are hardware devices (dongle/smart speaker) sold by google. Do I need another device in order to use 'home' or chromecast with this streamer? FWIW I have an android phone, (but no TV).
There is the Chromecast protocol and there is the Chromecast hardware. You need hardware to use the protocol. That hardware can be the ChromeCast Audio (no longer in production) or any audio rendered (streamer) that supports the Chromecast Audio protocol.
You can find a download page here: argonaudio.com/pages/firmware-updates. Download the update (currently there is no update for the Solo). Then look up the IP address of your Solo in your router and enter that IP address in a browser. Scroll down to find the update button and follow instructions.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel thanks, i just ordered the bluesound node N130 as it's on sale @ £449... :) this was before i saw your response unfortunately...
@@Zoranurai13 I have done that test, trying different optical outputs against each other on the same amp. You wouldnt belive the difference there is. The Node being audibly better than the Solo, but both better than other options...see my comment on the video!
Don’t over over estimate I²S. if the clock in the sending device is poor, both I²S and SPDIF will sound poor. And vise versa. Receiver chips in a DAC nowadays are of good quality.
I am awed by your depth of knowledge. I have just entered the shallow end of the streaming pool and don’t even know what I am missing as I have always just listened to albums, cds, and Apple Music. I just bought a NAD c328 and noticed the “streaming” RCA inputs and decided to see what they might add to my little set up. Thanks again for sharing!
Enjoy the music
Thanks for a very thorough review, Hans, and good to see you back. I believe you explained our product even better than I could have done myself!
You’re right in saying we don’t mention SOLO’s DLNA capabilities anywhere. It’s not meant to be a hidden feature - it’s just an oversight on my part! We’ll get that part added to our website ASAP.
Best regards,
Henrik Reinholdtsen, Argon Audio
You rather have a feature that was not mentioned than a mentioned feature that is lacking.😃. O forgot to mention Spotify. Love the SOLO.
Is there any way to get one if you live in North America outside the EU?
I would ask the manufacturer.
@@stevenwaldstein2249 , hello. Were you able to get an answer? I live in California and think the Solo looks great.
@@bladeduffer I contact Argon Audio via email and unfortunately they have no way to provide a unit to potential customers in North America.
Your hint about the clean power supply for the SOLO is absolutely right! I also stream via SPDIF to an ARES II, and replacing the in-the-box switching power supply of the SOLO with an iFi iPower2 does wonders. Cleans up the sound coming out of the ARES II much more than expected! Highly recommended.
Sounds great!
After having used my Argon Solo as a streamer to my low/mid cost-DAC, a Toppings D70S, for over a year (bought on a Black Friday's sale at discount rate), I just updated a few days ago with the SBooster LPS to feed the Solo, based on your review. Wow! Lots of additional space around vocals and instruments and as well a larger calmness in the sound picture and especially more natural sounding vocals.
Money well spent! Nice 😊
Thank you for the recommendation.
Thanks for sharing. Enjoy the music.
I had the chance to test four of the "usual suspects" of streamers in an AB test with some friends. In terms of sound quality they results were quite amazing considering the vastly different prices. Price/value vise the Solo is amazing!
1. Bluesound Node 2i (the N130 was not out yet)
2. Argon Solo
3. Sonos Port
4. Heos Link
Also, great to see you back in good health. You have the most grounded and informed hifi content on UA-cam :)
Thanks for sharing
I have the Node N130 and am quite disappointed by it. The sound has glare to my ears. I wonder if you could get much better sound with something like the Argon Solo connected to a DAC like Topping D50s?
@@robertmarshall7712 have you tried a different DAC with the Bluesound node?
@@sdrtcacgnrjrc Tbh the super detailed sound of hi-res is wasted on me. I'm perfectly happy with the ifi Zen blue which is not real hi res but downsampled because of bluetooth. Sounds more natural to me than the node. And if you buy the node and use a different DAC with it you're just getting into silly money. Anyway, mine's for sale if you're interested and in the UK.
@@robertmarshall7712 thanks for the offer, but no, not in the UK
Jewelcase is the right word for it. Cause inside are for the price, hidden gems. I had a Sonos Connect with my NAD C326BEE & Dali IKON 2 mk2 speakers + Dali 100 Sub. I was pretty satisfied with this setup and thought it was as good as it gets in its priceclass. Then i found the Argon Solo second hand at a good price, bought it and set it up via Windows 10 & Tidal HI-FI. I was litteraly blown away with the improvement in sound Q. Sonos have always been said to be top of the line in entry levelmusicstreaming, but boy was i wrong.
I even bought an Audiolab 6000N Play (What HI-FI Reward 2020) to try and upgrade from the Argon Solo, but I had to return it, the Argon Solo are just THAT much better.
- It is King of its class. And it`s a bargin at € 280 it`s a steal (Only ships within Europe).
And to You Mr. Beekhuyzen, tjanks for all your informative down to earth videos.
Not by me, Sonos gives a good 'fast food' quality, Argon Solo is 'bistro quality'.
Thank you very much for this video. I bought the Argon Audio Solo - I feed it via Coax into my Audiolab 8200CDQ and it sounds amazing, when operated via Roon/Qobuz - much much better, than when playing a CD from my Audiolab or when using Airplay sources or when using my Sonos Play (all fed into the Audiolab digitally via Coax).
I know. Enjoy the music.
Thanks for the review. Since this product isn't available in the US, what would you recommend as a substitute?
I wouldn’t know. Honestly.
Bluesound Node maybe?
I'm happy with my Stack Audio Link II
iFi Zen stream
Right now, the argon audio cost 200 euros. I bought it and i m very pleased as well of the sound quality. Of course, i m not an expert of technology and sound. But i really enjoy it with my cambridge amps. Thanks for the advice.
Thanks for sharing
Music is my first love, and it will be....thank you Hans.
My pleasure
Denmark represent. 💪 I love Argon Audio.
Am I the only one reminded of the Squeezebox Duet?
Just updated, and I have waited a long time for someone to do that.
That's a bit like comparing a modern car to a car from the 60s. They both have four wheels....
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel perhaps I wasn't precise enough.
I didn't intend a criticism, it is just that I have waited for someone to produce something as simple/straightforward and (in its own time) very good.
I used my Duet(s) until I jumped to an Allo Digione Signature.
But... I still use the Squeezebox controller on it.
Enjoyed this review, thank you
My pleasure!
Welcome back, great to see you. I hope all is well.
I feel great
Thanks Hans. Great review. I myself found the Aragon Audio Streamer3, this unit does the same and have a small colour display in the front. Great, but small. DAB+, FM, Internet radio, Spotify, DLNA and a remote does it for me. Some day I’ll buy a better DAC.
Review next week
Hi Hans, like your channel, thanks for your work. One question: I'd like to use Qobuz with the SOLO, but I'm not sure how it works. Qobuz is probably only accessible with AirPlay, Bluetooth and co. So I could use Qobuz with their native App. But my Mac has no Airplay (older version) and I don't like to use Bluetooth. So what does it mean for me? No Qobuz with the SOLO? Kind regards
You could use your smartphone and use either Airplay or Chromecast to send it to the Solo.
Thanks for your work. Is there a external DAC you recommend as an upgrade to the Argo solo?
Please see my reviews: ua-cam.com/video/f_PTCXxSbps/v-deo.html
Hi Hans, thanks a lot for this very clear and thourough review. I have one question: i like your suggestion of improving its sound by just using another power supply. Kan you advise us what the specs of such a power supply should be and where to buy a budget friendly version in the Netherlands? (I'm a bit of an electrotechnical amateur and i'm affraid to overpower the device if i buy a wrong one) Cheers from Eindhoven!
It should do 5 volts at minimum 1 amp. The iFi iPower2 is an affordable option. The sBooster power supplies are even better.
Hi Hans, do you know if the Solo can be used with the BubbleUPnP app? thanks. Bas
BubbleUPNP is a UPnP/DLNA server and the SOLO is a UPnP/DLNA renderer so that should work. I haven't tried though.
Thanks for your excellent review. Can you please recommend a power supply that works with Argon? It has to be a mini Usb, right? Thanks
There are several audio grade power supplies. See my playlist power supplies below € 500: ua-cam.com/play/PLMbsmejHnP8EuzEYn08rMXG94UaJamd91.html
One follow up question. Could you provide a link or at least a written response on the specific external power supply you are recommending to use with this unit? Thank you.
You find my PSU reviews here: ua-cam.com/play/PLMbsmejHnP8EuzEYn08rMXG94UaJamd91.html and here ua-cam.com/play/PLMbsmejHnP8H-EOz3RkYJzVuL5G1riwch.html
Happy to have you back !!
Glad to be back!
Swiftly done. More power to Hans
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Great review, and hope your health is good.
I'm fine. Thanks
Hi Hans, thanks for the nice review. I have a question. I'am just on the step to get into streaming. My equipment is very old but stil live and kicking and I look for an entry level streamer. So I saw reviews on the Argon Solo and the Bluesound Node and for me it is hard to decided which one. The Bluesound Node is twice+ the price but is it better?
Maybe you can enlighten me a bit or do I need to look in an other directing aswell? Hoep to hear from you.
Groeten en dank alvast. Han
The Bluesound is better sound wise but it depends on your stereo how audible it is. The user interface is also better and more streaming services are supported.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thxs for the information. I just ordered the Argon because pricewise it's the cheaper one and I don't need high-end audio for now. It is for now only for spotify. If it is not good enough then I can always send it back and order the Bluesound Node. At my age (65) all the high and low frequencies seem to disapear more or less. :)
Thanks for the great review Hans. Quick question: what do you mean by 20% or 80% up rating ? With this streamer and Tidal would I be able to enjoy the Tidal improved quality over Spotify ? Or will I be limited by the Google Cast protocol ?
That depends mainly on your equipment and your hearing.
I also have the Solo and Tidal Hifi (CD quality 16 bit, 1411khz). I don't know if it's the different source files or the higher quality, but I can definitely hear an improvement over Spotify using the Chromecast protocol. Wider stereo image and more detailed sound in general, especially in the highs where I am most sensitive in my hearing. But as Hans summed it up already, it really depends on your equipment and your hearing.
This is an interesting budget device, the upgradability makes it attractive for tinkering with in my second system. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.
A couple of questions. Is DLNA gapless? And is the digital output compatible with an MQA DAC?
It is gapless and if you set the volume of the SOLO it will pass on MQA files unaltered.
Hello and thank you for this video. Do you know if Solo supports gapless playback? Thanks
Yes it does
Thank you for sharing info on this unit. Since it’s not available in North America (USA) is there something similar like this? Would you consider the Bluesound Node an upgrade on this?
Yes
It’s unfortunate the Node costs more than 2x this one. Maybe some enterprising resellers will send some over to North America.
Glad to know you are back!
Glad To be back
Great video! Would you rather recommend this product or building own Raspberry Pi, and if, which DAC hat would you use? Because I understood not only DAC itself influences sound quality but other components (in the streamer, like chip and etc.) too. Thanks.
Use the SOLO with its built in DAC and you’ll be better off than with a Raspberry Pi
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel I appreciate. Thank you.
One more thing, was wondering if you have tried Audio Pro Link 2, and how it is in comparison with the SOLO? There is too little info. on that one. E.g. couldn't find which DAC they used. It has Ethernet socket, not sure if that is an advantage for sound quality?
Hi. Great review.
I have a question.
Do you think a dedicated streamer like this would make my system sound better?
My system is apple tv connected to my tv thru hdmi. Then my tv is connected to my dac (arcam airdac) thru toslink. Amp is primaluna dialouge premium. Speakers are wharfedale evo.
I love just streaming thru my tv.
I want ro upgrade my dac to holo Audio spring 3 or chord qutest.
Would that be enough for better sound?
Or does my toslink setup thru the tv ruin my sound?:)
For user experience i dont Need to buy one, but if it means better sound i absolutely have to:)
Absolutely!!!
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel thank you🙂👍 is it then alot to gain getting an Aries G1? Or are we talking 5-10% increase in performance?
Surely the dac must be the most important thing in the upgrade?
No, it isn’t. The streamer and the DAC are equally important. In your setup the streamer/TV Combi is the weakest link so I would replace that first. The Aries G1 would be a great update. After that the DAC could be improved since it’s below the quality of the amp and speakers.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel thank you again!
I have to try this out👍 think my setup deserves this.
Thanks a lot for the good review!
I ordered the Solo and have been quite impressed by build quality and functionality.
I could’nt get it connected via Roon with the Elac Discovery Server though which was my main intention. It does only show up as ‚not Roon certified‘.
Did you by chance manage to acces it via the Elac/Roon Essential?
Thanks and best regards
It should work, see roonlabs.com/partners/argon-audio. I would ask in the Roon community: community.roonlabs.com
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thanks Hans, yes I will ask over there. Not done that yet since the Roon Community is always referring to Elac since Elac is 'responsible' for Roon Essentials. But Elac support has just not been answering at all when it comes to questions around Elac Discovery and Roon Essentials. Argon support does not know Roon Essentials and is referring to Roon functionality like 'stop and restart' which does not exist in Roon Essentials. I noticed that you have been running other Roon Ready Endpoints with Elac Discovery, so there is still hope, that it should work at some point. Best, TT
Hi Hans, thanks for an informative review. I have a few minor technical questions you may have the answer to. I wonder about the volume control and the output when using the internal dac via rca. Is the output at "full volume" around 2 volts? I only want to regulate volume via my amplifier and do not want it to cut or distort the signal. Many dac / streamers have a fixed mode but can not find the information about about this streamer.
If you set the volume control of the SOLO to 100% it will not influence the sound.
Thanks for the great review, Hans! 👍 I'm thinking of adding a new streamer (replacement for Google Chromecast Audio) to my second system (hope it's an upgrade....😉). One thing I don't get straight... What is the max. resolution when streaming via google Chromecast with this device? 24/96? I'm using Amazon Music HD....
Which connection would you recommend (digital/analog) when connecting it to an 10year old Marantz SR6008...?
Can't say. Just try.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel okay, thanks. What would be the max. Resolution via Chromecast? 24/96?
Dear Hans, driven by your review I purchased an argon solo streamer and hooked it up to my system ( marantz PM7000, Benchmark I dac, JPW Ruby 3 loudspeakers). It is working great. Would you insist on using a sbooster power supply with the argon ? Which model ?
I would not force you to. But it will improve the sound quality. Just take the current model with the right voltage output.
Dear Hans thank you for the immediate response. I got a message from the british Futuretech, responding to a question of mine, saying "the Argon Solo Audio streamer does not seem to have a DC power connection as it seems to contain a Micro/Mini USB 5v socket ". I've also sent a question to Argon Audio, but with no answer so far.@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
That is quite ignorant. SBoosters come with adapter plugs, amongst them a mini USB one
Hello, do you think this device sounds better than the blue sound node I see you have ?
Also as a record producer , the unavailability of old tape masters means many hi Res albums are sourced from old digital masters - they tapes long since decayed, so although they claim to be hi res versions they are resampling of 80’s or 90’s CD’s . For many small artists the label and the master tapes are long gone . And the majors never took great care with tape masters . I’ve had albums on Sony / epic/Columbia / Warner’s / v2/ creation etc etc all the masters long gone !
And thanks for helpful review
No, the BlueSound sounds better and has support for far more streaming services.
Thank you !
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel do you mean with both using internal DAC ? Or both using same external ...
@@sdrtcacgnrjrc i’m wondering about the same
Hello. How does this compare to Auralic Mini, you reviewed time ago?
The Auralic is the better one.
Hi Hans, really nice review, also like your take on Mqa, learned a lot. And I love the Mqa on my affordable Ifi Dac and Chromecast. Solo is very practikal since it has Wifi, Do you know how I set up Jriver for Solo? Do I need a special version?
In JRiver you can simply select the Solo as ‘speaker’. It uses the DLNA protocol. So no need for other stuff.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thank you so much, then I know how to use it.
Thanks for your thoughtful presentation. As I listen to you it occurred to that this would be perfect for me if only it had file storage so I can access “High Res Audio” files directly without WiFi. Is there a way? Or is there a product that does all that this does but added a TB or two of storage so that a few favourites can be played at supper high quality?
You almost always need wifi to control the streamer using your smartphone, tablet or computer.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel yes I know- I have watching you for some time.
But in addition files can be stored and fed through cables. But not on this devise?
Hello Hans, how would it sound if i connect the Solo directly to my Kef Egg active speakers?
I don’t know. I’m not familiar with the KEFs
Goedemiddag Hans, Zeer informatieve review dank hiervoor. Rest mij een vraag, hoe benader ik mijn Nass met de Argon Solo.
The Argon Solo has several modes to play music. If you want to play from your NAS, you need to install a DLNA or UPnP AV server program on the NAS. The best for music is MinimServer. That is free and available for Synology and QNAP. Then you need a DLNA or UPnP AV controller app on your smartphone or tablet. I use Glider on iOS which isn't free. But there are many free ones. On that app you select the source - your NAS - and the player - Your Argon Solo. Then you can elect the music you want to play on the app.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Dank je wel Hans voor deze zeer nuttige informatie.
Ik vergeet wat Hans, is de geselecteerde muziek dan gapless?
I agree with you, it’s very simple to use and it sounds good. It also does Spotify connect, actually.
I forgot to mention Spotify.... Thanks for the addition
Dear Hans, Argon solo or yamaha wxc 50 (250e vs 320e) / yamaha with roon poor probably only airplay not sure for chromecast...point is streaming own music to amp from pc- hdds, not tidal..spotify or deezer..would like to hear your opinion which will adress me where to go
{pick your choice, you will have seen my review.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel try to avoid mistake or to make better choice its correct to say...but thanks on clever respond...if i pick before your review could be too late or will not be...we will see😀 regards
Thanks Hans. It‘s a pitty that there is no RJ45, will that be a option in future release?
Don’t think so
Wish it were available in the USA. Thanks Hans!
Maybe one day!
Hi!
Is gapless playback possible via DLNA?
Thanks for the review.
It's not a standard feature of DLNA but many manufacturers came up with a solution in their products.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thanks!
Hi Hans, thank you for this review. I really appreciate the measured tone you use to convey the information. It's a relief after the hysterical clowning that seems to be mandatory for UA-cam presenters.
I've read that the Solo will only support a maximum resolution of 16bit/44,1kHz over Airplay and Chromecast, with a possible 24bit/192kHz over Roon. Could you tell me what resolution is possible over DLNA, using, for instance, Jriver? Thanks again.
192 kHz 24 bit
Thank you very much.
In conjunction with some high-end DAC's, such as the Holo Audio May, with their galvanic isolation and incredible jitter reduction, does it really matter, as it pertains to sound quality, what streaming device one uses ?
I feel as though reviewers are avoiding this question or the explanation of why one bit-perfect device might be different from another, sound-wise, when paired as mentioned above, using the streamer's digital output into the optimal DAC input.
So glad to see you back, and apparently doing well, Hans. I hope you'll update us on your procedure at some point.
I don't know about other reviewers but I am working for a few years now to dream up an explanation why digital sources sound different. Do you think I would have bought (yes bought) the Auralic Aries G2 streamer if it didn't sound better? Give me another one or two months and I have a video on the subject on line.
I am indeed feeling fine. I presume you watched my report on the operation (ua-cam.com/video/nYG4t9SHQYA/v-deo.html) but did you also see the update in the description below the video?
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel No, I am certain that at the time of your purchase you chose the best sonic option. I was speaking more generally, as I can't seem to get a satisfying response from most reviewers. If you can come up with some reasoning for what you believe to be better performance, I would be thrilled (although possibly not my wallet).
I did indeed see both videos and hope that future "tweaking" will bring you even more relief.
Keep fighting the good fight, in both of these arenas.
P.S.- I'm looking to acquire a respectable DAC and streamer in the near future, and my line of questioning is directly applicable to that endeavor. I am currently using an el cheapo DAC and streaming dongle, but have purchased, used, a PS Audio BHK Signature preamp and a BHK Signature 250 stereo amp. My speakers are a pair of the Joseph Audio RM25XL (also bought used).
The reason I can't give a clear answer on what DAC to buy is that it has to do with personal preferences, development of your auditory system, your gear and so on. Watch ua-cam.com/video/EykkzxUstL4/v-deo.html. You might also watch ua-cam.com/video/MonWnHnWHTc/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/flWAizq4AgI/v-deo.html.The Holo review can be found here: ua-cam.com/video/iAj_0WZT5Eo/v-deo.html
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel I'm sorry if you thought that I was looking for precise buying advice for a DAC, I was not. When I stated that my questioning was directly related to buying a DAC, I only meant that "if" an ultra low jitter and galvanically isolated DAC would negate the need for a hi-end and expensive streamer, it would allow me to save on the purchase of the combination of the two devices, or dedicate more funding toward the DAC.
The mentioning of my equipment was only to give you a rough idea of where I'm at in my hi-fi acquisition process. Buying equipment, sound unheard, from the intricately woven descriptions of reviewers, is difficult, to say the least.
I've been interested in stereo equipment reviews for the past 35 years or so, yet rarely taking action. I retired as a senior telecom technician after a 33 year stint, having some knowledge of electronics, though certainly not at the more granular hi-fi audio circuit level. With the closing of most of the high-fidelity shops during more recent years, advice like yours is extremely crucial. So out of necessity and enjoyment, I hang on your every audio-related utterance.
Hallo Hans, hoe sluit je Sbooster aan op de argon. Dat gaat namelijk niet met de bijgeleverde usb micro. Heb jij oplossing. Zag het niet in je filmpje.
Probeer even of sBooster het juiste verloopstekkertje heeft.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel de enige verloop is de Micro usb. Dus…. Argon solo kan op deze manier niet gevoed worden…
Heb je sBooster gebeld?
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel gemaild en sturen mij de mini usb gratis op….. weer wat geleerd. Jij ook?
Ze doen dat al langer. Vandaar mijn suggestie.
Would the Chromecast Audio running optical to an external DAC stream just as good Spotify quality?
Chromecast Audio might be sufficiently ent for Spotify. I would prefer a better streamer and a better streaming service.
I looked into this as I need a roon end point for a downstairs hifi. Unfortunately it's not available in the UK as they will not sell outside the EU. Shame because I would have given it a go, Node 2021 for me I guess.
I know, sorry.
Very good review, as usual. I had the unit for a couple of days and had to return it, unfortunately. The sound quality is as described here - very good indeed - but it loses connection to Roon all the time. It is "Roon Ready" and works well when it works but sometimes it only shows Airplay 2, sometimes both Roon and Airplay, sometimes nothing. Firmware update did not resolve this. Pity.
That has to be a local problem or a faulty product
While trying to intergrate SOLO wireless streamer in my system via Apple Air Play the following signs appears in the selection in my Musik App:
地下室 61
Is that normal? should i select this sign as an airplay speaker?
It says 'Basement 61' in Chinese. It might be that a former user has entered that to give the unit a unique name.
Your opinion on sound quality of solo vs. sotm 200 neo? Can it match up?
No
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannelThanks for your fast reply! All best
Great video as per usual, just on the S booster psu. I have one powering my streamer (lindemann network mk1) for the last 9 months, when does this thing stop running in?!! I mean my system keeps getting better week after week. I can only assume it’s the s booster that’s improving with time. It has Truly been a fantastic purchase and well worth its quite hefty price tag.
I can't really tell. I have been using sBoosters for donkey's years so they are far pas running in.
I'm still at a loss re google home and chromecast: when I search online I am told (by various sites) that they are hardware devices (dongle/smart speaker) sold by google. Do I need another device in order to use 'home' or chromecast with this streamer? FWIW I have an android phone, (but no TV).
There is the Chromecast protocol and there is the Chromecast hardware. You need hardware to use the protocol. That hardware can be the ChromeCast Audio (no longer in production) or any audio rendered (streamer) that supports the Chromecast Audio protocol.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel thank you Hans for clarifying that for me 👍🏼
Please have a look at the Primare NP5 Mk2 if you have the possibility.
I have requested a review sample. Let's see if the request is granted
I bought Argon...can say im satisfied.......dont know how to update firmware ...cant find instruction even how to check
You can find a download page here: argonaudio.com/pages/firmware-updates. Download the update (currently there is no update for the Solo). Then look up the IP address of your Solo in your router and enter that IP address in a browser. Scroll down to find the update button and follow instructions.
does this work with amazon music?
Not directly but you could use Chromecast or Airplay to send Amazon Music from your phone or tablet.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel thanks, i just ordered the bluesound node N130 as it's on sale @ £449... :) this was before i saw your response unfortunately...
it’s the better choice so no regrets
No ethernet cable connection... ? It would be perfect if it had an ethernet connection!
Some say that Wifi sounds better since there is a galvanic separation from the other gear....
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel in did !
If used as just a streamer using optical, the quality of a streamer matters very little right
Wrong. The bandwidth of the TOSlink connector is limited and the jitter of the source is just as well transmitted through optical
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel but i mean compared to something like a bluesound node. Disregarding the dac and both using optical.
That’s what I ment too
@@Zoranurai13 I have done that test, trying different optical outputs against each other on the same amp. You wouldnt belive the difference there is. The Node being audibly better than the Solo, but both better than other options...see my comment on the video!
Where can i buy this in US?
Listen closely at 9:50
In Europe only
What it is missing is I2s out, to connect to better DACs
Don’t over over estimate I²S. if the clock in the sending device is poor, both I²S and SPDIF will sound poor. And vise versa. Receiver chips in a DAC nowadays are of good quality.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel is RCA SPIDF output able to deliver 24/192 or it's limited to 16/44,1 ?
Welcome come back
🙏
Great review but not for UK punters thanks to bloody Brexit 🙁
What's to be said
D . L . N. A not D.N. L . A 😃
oops