Border Scuffle [A Fully Voiceacted Redtail Fan Animation]
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2018
- Well, semi-animated anyway.
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It's odd, isn't it, how Thistleclaw died offscreen? How Bluestar just passingly mentions that the main antagonist of her super edition died in a border scuffle with Riverclan.... Why?
If you know anything about me, you know that I HATE Spottedleaf's Heart. I think, very passionately, that Vicky Holmes, Working Partners, and Harper Collins should publically both apologize for its sloppy handling of the VERY serious subject matter of pedophilia, but decanonize it and stop publishing it. The intention of novella, to explain why Thistleclaw went to the Dark Forest, makes sense, and I truly believe that this platform COULD have effectively handled the material in a way that could explain to young readers the danger of child grooming, and offer them examples of warning signs to look out for. Instead, it fails to properly villify Thistleclaw's actions- in the climax of the story, when Spottedpaw discovers Thistleclaw is training in the Dark Forest, she asks him to choose between her and the Dark Forest, and he chooses training in the Dark Forest. Spottedpaw then becomes a medicine cat to escape him, offering her a reasonable explanation why she cannot take a mate. Essentially, it makes it seem that the thing he did wrong was NOT CHOOSING HER, not the fact he had been ROMANTICALLY INVOLVED WITH A CHILD.
So. Generally speaking, I refuse to acknowledge it as canon. I don't want it in my work. Not my stories, not my art, not my maps. But.... with Redtail's Debt, his very own Novella, announced and coming, one day, I had a thought: what if Spottedleaf told her littermate what had been done to her? What if the deputy of Thunderclan decided banishment wasn't enough- that pedophiles need to be DEALT with. At this point, I made this comic: draikinator.tumblr.com/post/17...
It was pretty popular! I was very proud of it. For me, it offered a way to come to terms with spottedleafs heart, in a way. I chose to use Whitestorm for this video and the comic, because I like the idea of Whitestorm, someone who had briefly been a denmate of Redtail and Spottedleaf, choosing her over a father he now knew something terrible about. However, I theorize that in Redtail's Debt, this WILL actually happen, BUT, it will be TIGERCLAW, and after they've killed Thistleclaw, Tigerclaw will tell Redtail he owes him, foreshadowing that Tigerclaw would later also secretly kill Redtail and blame it on a border scuffle with Riverclan.
I hope you enjoy this video! It took a really long time to make and I'm VERY proud of it.
Thistleclaw Played by Al Baldino
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Redtail Played by Me
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Bluestar played by Illbringyoudown
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Whitestorm played by KindledFlame
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Spottedleaf played by Angel Hawk
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*this video took more effort than Spottedleaf’s Heart*
Gwen Porter nah, what I’m saying is that this video is way better than Spottedleaf’s heart. This video has even more effort than the book
true, true
Yes so much better
Ari *TRUE*
lmfao you're right
hey guys! this is canon. just saying
Tybaxel wait really?
no its canon harper collins is my dad
@@Draikinator
Harper Collins is the books publishing company....
Phinex 115 r/woooosh
Phinex 115 whoooosh
If this actually happens in Redtail's Debt, it would probably be one of my favorite novellas. Even though Spottedleaf's Heart was a pretty bad book in a lot of ways (total understatement but that's another topic for another day), if they could somehow fix it by doing something like this, it would really help. Even if this doesn't happen, I'm hype to figure out exactly what happens in Redtail's Debt.
KoolKeldeo 105 give him development! He deserves it!
yeah like i absolutely think they should apologize and decanonize spottedleafs heart, but, they clearly arent going to, and redtails debt is written by a different person- if clarissa chooses to do what she can to repair the damage of spottedleafs heart she's gonna go down in my heart as a legend lol
I wish this did happen
Sorry but... I read redtails debt and none of this happens they know nothing about thistleclaw doing that with spottedleaf :/ sorry for spoilers
Time to make it canon in my imagination. 😈
This is a way more interesting theory than Thistle just dying off randomly in the background. I recently tried to read through spottedleaf's heart, but I was just too uncomfortable that i didn't even finish up to half of it. Just the fact that Spottedleaf was just so naive about it made it much more realistic, but as you said, the way they "villainize" Thistleclaw is just terrible; thus making it one of the most poorly executed books I have seen in a while.
So true
they can have child predators but no gay couples
@@mynx6522
I actually heard that the Erins would include LGBT+ characters, but they don't want to have their books books banned in other countries
ikr but seriously I thought child predators would be more unsuitable for children then gay kitty cats
I'm petty bored of skyclans Destiny and spottedleafs heart
this concept is dope
Yes, yes it is.
*dope af*
No u
I hope this would become cannon. This gives Redtail more character and Thistleclaw finally gets what he deserves. Also this would give Thistleclaw more motivation be truly hateful against Thunderclan in the final battle
This kinda feels better than the canon death!
DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD
lol kinda?
I actually forgot normal Spottedleaf existed because of all the Evil Spottedleaf AU stuff whoops
Edit number woah: woah thanks for the likes for this stupid comment
Ash Bae yeah, it kinda came in a tidal wave didn’t it
Lol
Same--
As someone who experienced pedophilia from someone who groomed me before eventually attempting to molest me, this animation makes both the devil and angel on my shoulder cry out in joy and justice. No child predator should get away with their crimes.
hell yeah, i made this for YOU baby this animation was made as self indulgent wish fulfillment for every victim who has to know Spottedleafs Heart exists as canon. all pedophiles must die
@@Draikinator Or be castrated. There are fates worst than death.
I love this so much, Whitestorm's absolutely has the same energy as Then Perish 😂👌
Hehe~
Just realised Redtail having a high pitched voice was intentional.
Male tortoiseshells are super rare, so most Warriors readers headcanon him as trans.
Also the voice actor is trans.
personally since we got to see him as a male from a kit all the way to adult i do not see this headcanon. i can see it on others but not him. and exactly. they're rare. is it not ok for him to just be a rare male tortie? not saying it's wrong. it was still good but personally not my thing
Warriors doesn't cares about genetics, as examples we have Thunder, Rosetail, Sol, Redtail himself, Spiderleg, Hawkfrost and list goes on & on & on
Cool!
Honestly, as a person who hasn’t read Redtail’s super editon(or is it a Novela? I forgot.) I will continue to headcannnon this and no one can stop me
@@SpottertheOtterfox that's why the original person said "headcanon". Redtail isn't canonically trans, but a lot of people like to imagine that he is because they like him. I personally like trans Rowanclaw better, but trans Redtail is cool too.
The end though XD "ThistleClaw Deserved It" YES HE DID
This is a perfect head-canon, and I really hope that it’ll happen in Redtail’s Debt! It’ll both expand on Spottedleaf and Redtail’s characters, as well as give a deeper reason for why Tigerclaw murdered Redtail at the fight against RiverClan.
Also, I have a feeling that one of the reasons Redtail’s Debt is written is to make something meaningful come out of the huge mess that was Spottedleaf’s Heart. (For the character developments of Redtail, Spottedleaf, and Tigerstar)
XxBlossom-1003579xX if it does happen, I wouldn’t be surprise if it was Tigerclaw who helped him
Which tigerstar?
The 1st one. (Tigerclaw)
Wait, Redtail's Debt? IS REDTAIL GETTING A SUPER EDITION?!!??!!!!???!?!!!??!!
Ok, don't have to be so rude
This came out so lovely!! Thanks for the opportunity to voice Whitestorm! If you need anything just let me know 😉
you were the voice actor as whitestorm?
I headcanon this as whitestorm’s actual voice
You did great!!!
In my option, I think that when spottedleaf gave him a choice and when he chose the dark forest, she realized that he didn't love her and decided to be a medicine cat and tell her brother so she can try to make right.
Well, he deserved it.
Ayana Henry pedos/minor attracted people deserve to die honey
Yep
It annoys me when people defend him, saying it's "not the REAL Thistleclaw!!" or "the original was better. they just MADE him evil >:("
Actually, the "original" Thistleclaw wasn't from Bluestar's Prochecy either. The "original" Thistleclaw was the one in Forest of Secrets; you know, the cat who "took many of Bluestar's lives".
All in all, he sucks, he was always evil, he deserved the Dark Forest.
DINGO DONG THE WICKED WITCH IS DEAD.
This is cannon now just.... It is. Holy Starclan this is awesome.
Also upon reading your description, I agree that they had the potential for showing kids the wrongs of child grooming and that he was in the wrong...
Instead you have a book that should never have existed at all because of how horrible and offensive it is to people who were either almost a victim or were a victim of a pedophile and I just... ugh
This is a great concept, wish it was canon!
Yes this is so good! If this was canon, then Redtail would probably have more character development and we would get to know him better, and I hope that Redtail's debt will be better then Spottedleaf's heart, that book was not that good and stuff was just thrown in there.
Aaaa I love this! But what if Bluestar was in on it sinceSpottedleaf told her too, and they just planned it all out against Thistleclaw
honestly this makes sense, bluestar would absolutely be in on it she hated thistleclaw
Nah, Bluestar would be too loyal to her clan for that to happen
i actually considered adding a little after credits scene where spottedleaf was preparing thistleclaw's body for his vigil while redtail and whitestorm slept off their injuries in her den, and she would find redtail's fur in thistleclaw's claws and she would gasp, but then, look relieved, and then hide it. i kind of like the idea that everybody like, knows, but theyre all like "oh yeah... border scuffle. yup. thats what happened. lol"
Ooo, a major plot twist that everyone was preparing for it!
@@Draikinator I think Bluestar would be angered if they tried to get her in on this. Yes, she hated Thistleclaw, but as a leader she would likely think of the Warrior Code. She broke it in the past and faced the result, and so she would prefer not to break it again. "A warrior does not need to kill to win his/her battles."
I like the idea of Spottedleaf finding out afterwards. She would at first think about whether StarClan would approve, and then decide they would, as the forest would be rid of the dangerous tom for a long time, and she would feel free. I do really like the concept you have here, and certainly hope for a similar plot for Redtail's Debt. I have high expectations for the book, as we need it to make up for Spottedleaf's Heart and also I think we all deserve some good insight on Redtail's character.
OMG I LOVE REDTAIL'S DESIGN HERE!
Thistle'claw: I think there is something between us~
Spottedleaf: Yes, The *Law*
I am absolutely *IN LOVE* with this concept!
I just came after watching Moonkitti’s video about Spottedleaf’s heart, ironically, and this was the best thing I could have watched after. ”Thistleclaw died in a border scuffle” just seems so unnatural and out of nowhere. This adds more character to Redtail and this idea seems much better anyway.
I thought it would also help explain the oddness of redtail not telling nyone who killed him! I wonder often why redtail didn't tell bluestar or spottedleaf that it was tigerclaw that murdered him and not oakheart- but if he had killed thistleclaw he might be feeling guilty or struggling with like, he was murdered the same way he killed someone, did he do the right thing? And eventually realize he did, but it would be a good reason why he may not be sure if he has the right to interfere
That makes sense 👍
And Brother of the Year goes to...
Redtail!
Blue star didn’t seem particularly phased she was like
“Oh he’s dead? Finally”
Love this btw and thistleclaw f’n deserved it.
I love the idea of Redtail sort of being the protective older brother to Spottedleaf. The whole thing with Thistleclaw and Spottedleaf is just creepy on so many levels. And I think after seeing just how battle hungry Thistleclaw can be, Redtail saw him as too dangerous to be left to his own devices. I love the theory.
I like the concept of RedTail being more involved with his sister but having RedTail and WhiteStorm murder ThistleClaw seems very dark and uncharacteristic of these cats? Both Red and White were level headed and reasonable warriors so I personally find it unlikely that they would do this.
Even if they did then I would assume they both felt horrible guilt of having the blood of their clan mate over their paws.
But I can agree SpottedLeaf's heart was kinda garbage
Never the less I really enjoy your art and story telling as usual! Your designs are something I also love. Good job and I cant wait for another video! :D
'They would feel horrible guilt' and whats the name of Redtail's upcoming book? c:
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RedTail's DEBT
Debt - Some thing that is owed
There might be some connection between his guilt and his debt but I just dont see it
Who knows. Maybe Im wrong? But until the book comes out I will stand by my point that I dont think they would do this. And If I am wrong then I'll accept that.
So anything else you think I should look over?
Macaroon Munches if it’s not that, it will just be a bit in the books we haven’t seen
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Yeah I agree
I just hope they dont screw it up like SpottedLeaf's Heart XD
Macaroon Munches i didn’t think it was that bad, but then again, I’m not to good at knowing what’s bad in a book XD
WHOA THIS IS GREAT??
I LOVE HOW REDTAIL HAS MORE CHARACTER AND WHITESTORM IS INCLUDED AND AA
Let’s be honest, here, Bluestar was secretly happy that Thistleclaw died.
“What!? And you believe her over me! Your own father!”
Whitestorm: “Absolutely.”
i am SHAKING
0:49 I got major goosebumps, this is honestly better than Spottedleaf’s Heart.
Wow, I love everything about this! The voice acting was amazing and on point and the animation was great. I love the idea of Redtail standing up to Thistleclaw and having Whitestorm and him kill Thistleclaw.
Lol I love the end credits! You know what they say:
The wicked witch is dead
ThistleClaw did deserve it :)))))
1:10 whitestorm should have clawed his father's face and then said " you even cheated on your first mate! my mother!"
Right of The Cliff Studio he never cheated on Snowfur. Snowfur was already dead lol
0:43 That face, he's just like "oh crap..."
I would 100% fully accept this as canon. This is just... amazing.
red-tail pulled a Tigerclaw
But red-tail had a vaild exuse
Watched this several times. Still get chills when Redtail says ‘You know how Thistleclaw can be’. Such great delivery. Wonderful vid!
eeeekkkk i’m late. this looks awesome, redtail was too precious and was an amazing deputy. i hate how thistleclaw was treated by bluestar and some of the fandom.
however this au is unique and gives him such an interesting story. its funny considering redtail dies in such a familiar way. great work as always.
also that end doodle NEEDS to become a t-shirt. because it’s so true. 😂
edit : i checked it is, once i’m not broke since i spent my money on outfits for my cats anymore i’ll be sure to get one.
Hell to the YES
I LOVE THIS
I ALSO DIDN'T KNOW REDTAIL'S DEBT WAS GOING TO BE A THING
JRKFJNRJ NOW I WANT MOOOORE
Also “you believe her over me you’re own father?!” “Absolutely.” Is awesome
This gave me literal chills! The ending voice that red tail had was so......I don’t have any words for how amazing it was!
This is my new favorite head cannon. Protective, older brother Redtail, spottedlead finally admitting what had happened to her and getting help, thistleclaw getting what he deserved... I love it all.
Oh my gosh....
I LOVE THAT IDEA!
Redtail not gonna let anyone HARM his sister! And Whitestorm is #Done with Thistleclaw's crap!
Yas my Red-Boi and White-Boi!
REDTAIL THE TRANS SUPERHERO
... Dear. God. YES. I want to write this so bad, but I wouldn't even know where to begin! You have some of the most amazing AUs I've ever had the pleasure of reading/watching! Keep up the amazing work :)
THANK you i love love love coming up with new ideas and i LOOOOVE seeing other people take my ideas and build on them and create their own little spin offs its so fun
IM SCREAMING DING DONG THE WICKED WITCH IS DEAD
I don't really take Spotted Leaf's Heart as cannon anyways. They built a character out of Thistleclaw which defined him as a loving but overly aggressive character. No one can convince me that ThistleClaw didn't love Snow Fur and his son. So, when he loses both, (as Bluestar very much took White Storm from him) obviously he would turn to the only other thing he knows for comfort; fighting. In the cat world, female cats sexually mature far faster than human women. HOWEVER, Spotted Leaf is clearly still very young. If anything, I could see Thistleclaw MANIPULATING Spotted Leaf in ANY WAY OTHER than romantic. Thistleclaw did some bad things after the death of his mate. However, I could never see him as a child predator. This book is an injustice to his character as it paints him the wrong way. There is a difference between predation and arrogance. Yes, Thistleclaw failed to walk down the right path. But there is a line. And, if I understand anything about his character, he knows well where it is drawn and would never cross it.
It's real.people should stop denying it.
Maybe he was supposed to be like this.
Garrett watts 2.0
I'm not saying it's not real. We're not "denying" anything. We're just choosing, for ourselves, to claim that the book isn't canon because it doesn't suit the original plot or the characters in the main storyline. It was sloppily written, the plot sucked, and they killed Thistleclaw OFF CAMERA, which was a bad move on the part of the authors. Even the maker of the video said they didn't like the Novella in the description. This video was just their way of supplementing poor writing with good theorizing. You can believe what you will about the novella, but it sucked and too many characters were poorly illustrated for it to be considered canon. That's my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
He wasn't supposed to be like this, Erin Hunter is mutiple authors and when they relased BS almost a decade ago they made him a loving but overly aggressive charecter.
Spottedleaf's Heart was just an afterthought made by Vicky Holmes a year ago. He was never intended to be like this and they needed to make up a reason as to why he was in the DF
spottedleafs heart sucked in that it was gross pedophilia apologia, character assassination, and boring as fuck and op is right. Like. "it's real and people should stop denying it" should mean we should never stop holding working partners, harper collins and vicky responsible for the truly offensive book they put out, but that doesnt mean i am obligated to acknowledge it in my fanfics and my art and my creations where maybe i DONT want to have to deal with a poorly written csa plot every time i want to draw some cats.
Draikinator well said.
Omg dude this voice acting is awesome.. it keeps getting stuck in my head like a song!! I watch this almost every day just to stop and look at the amazing art ❤️❤️
you are so creative with all your headcannons, literally i watch them all and never would have thought of any of them!
Bluestar: What happened?!
*sees thistleclaws dead*
Blue star:*gasp* Thistleclaw!
*later that night*
Bluestar:YYAASS! FINALLY HES GONE!!
Bluestar, Spottedleaf, Whitestorm and Redtail he partying in that night
"Me, Whitestorm, and *Thistleclaw* His voice just drops
LMAO I was really really trying to get my voice to drop while I was recording to a lower octave and I didn't QUITE nail that delivery lol
Draikinator lol 😂 it's okay though, the video was awesome as always.
IT'S WHAT HE DESERVES HOLY SHIT
whitestorm and redtail. my boys i am so proud of you
My jaw DROPPED. Having not seen any prior concepts I didnt think itd be any deeper then just Thistleclaw dying, but this was sooooooo much more of a rich twist. You always know how to enhance warriors, I'm AMAZED by this piece !!
REST IN GARBAGE THISTLECLAW I LOVE THIS SO MUCH
oK HI I AM SHOOK???? SO WELL DONE N I LOVE THIS HEADCANON
I love this so much. This is now cannon. And can I just I loved Spottef Leaf's voice and the gasp just pulled my heart strings!! I love the animation. The voices. Your channel is amazing and you need more subscribers.
"ding dong the wicked witch is dead" LOL
"Dont you think my sister was a little to young for you Thistleclaw!"
My favorite part for some reason MAYBE BECAUSE ITS TRUE XXDDDDDD
Time: 0:49
This should be canon no matter what. Its just so well brutally great!
I love the animation, it's so smooth, very interesting as well, good job
omg I loved the comic you did and I'm glad it's voiced over and animated!!
This is really good! SpottedLeafs heart is so stupid and so naive I couldn't even read it without puking. I do hate how they villianize ThistleClaw but I don't see nothing wrong with killing a pervert ;3
I kinda believe this is what happened....
I really like what has been done here!
The last words made a chill go down my spine because it's just so chilling to hear how cold red'tail's voice is. Also that and the music coming right after is so creepy I love it!
This looks amazing! The voice acting is so well done
You have no idea how badly I want this to be canon.
I love the voice acting
Saw the comic on Tumblr!! So happy that a whole voiced and animated video was made about it! :'0
Been my headcanon ever since! Thanks for this!
Oh my god! This is just beautiful... the voice acting, the drawings aaaaa ❤❤❤
*BuT tHiStLe ClAw DeSeRvEd It*
This is a good video. I think that that may actually be how he died. They never told us how he died.
A Dirty Old Rat But he was killed by a Riverclan patrol...
@@rakuniris They never confirmed that it was a Riverclan patrol. As far as I know, anyways.
A Dirty Old Rat Ok. Just saying because the wiki stated it. (?
Absolutely gorgeous! I love and support this idea all the way!
This concept is truly amazing. It’s now a head cannon. Thank you; I shall take my chills and go now.
Redtail : *reverse card*
Thistleclaw : no you cant
Whitestorm : *yes*
This is canon. Try and change my mind.
Edit: THE ENDING MUSIC IS PERFECT!
This is amazing!!! The voice acting is so well done, and all your designs are so pretty!! :0c
And yeah, he totally deserved it, that AND a LOT more
Woah! This gave me the chills. It’s so well done and even though I don’t consider Spottedleaf’s heart cannon this would be an amazing end to Thistleclaws life. As well as giving Redtaul some well needed development.
Well done!
Shame the erins killed Redtail off so early, they really should do a super edition based off him.
I watched this and I handed the phone to my sister and told her WATCH THIS we we were both shocked you never let us down Draikinator
This is so good!
I love this concept so much!
Whitestorm’s voice suits him sooo much
I love how you have several videos about Thistleclaw dying. It's what he deserves
Wow! I love the way you changed up the story! 👍🏻
Dang, this is really well made! ;-;
The end song is painful
Wicked really affected me
I want a brother like Redtail
Who does not?
I have watched this over and Oder again for an hour and it gets better each time.
I LOVE THIS IDEA!!!
Keep up the great work!
YESSS REDTAIL CAUGHT ON LETS GOOOOOOOO-- ( jokes aside, I am absolutely DISGUSTED about spottedleafs heart. Feline pedophilia???? It couldn't get worse. Good job Drak!!!! :DD )
*_and you know how thistleclaw can be...._*
This is amazing! I never could have thought of that!
I love this idea so much
Should have been added into Spottedleaf's Heart.
Honestly, I consider this canon now. I always found it difficult to believe that Thistleclaw's death was accidental, especially when the claim is that it happened in a border skirmish. It just doesn't seem to add up. Besides, Redtail, although very sadly underrated and underdeveloped by the authors, doesn't seem to me like the kind of character to take Thistleclaw's actions laying down. Also, as always, what a beautiful art style ^^
I want your art style, it’s amazing!!