Talking Cheap GBBR's are they worth it?
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- The title says it all really, are cheap GBBR's actually worth it? Well that kinda depends, lets talk about it!
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This dude is one of those youtube legends that helps everyone out for a good cause
I think probably the nicest comment ive ever had, thank you 😊
Need more Airsofters making this type of content ! Informative !
I've been binging your videos since your newest one came up on my feed, and they are great. I'm sad to hear the news, but I'm praying that you make it through; you are amazing.
I have been binging your videos for the last 3 days while I wait for my GBBR to arrive, really cool to see someone so committed and knowledgeable on the subject share with us all. Deserves a bigger audience for sure. Cheers, Ollie!
thanks buddy 😁 im sure you'll love it, GBBR's are so much FUN!!! 🥳
The really unfortunate side about airsoft and specifically GBBRs...
is that it is probably the least return on fun to investment than any other sport or hobby in existence
I'm a full time GBBR user, but when you think about it, I've forked out a crazy amount of money for this replica that I can only really shoot on weekends in very specific locations, even if I'm lucky enough to have my own private garden range and not have the Armed Squad send me to another realm, I have that continuous horrible feeling...is my gun going to shit itself? Is my hop going to work today? Is it going to completely gas out in this crapfest that is English weather?
Frankly if it isn't anything other than an MWS (or now the TM AK), this is the reality using most GBBR's
I've been using GBBR for 3 years now, and what you described sounds more like you're just really paranoid or unfamiliar with your system. I have 3 guns that I use regularly, and I've torn them apart, modded, and put them back together tons of times. I know they'll work and won't break on me.
AEGs, however, have broken more times than I can count. I can relate your comment towards AEGs more than GBBR. If you can't, I suggest learning more about your guns. Then you'll stop worrying about something going wrong since you'll understand it.
@@Gojira_Wins out of curiosity, which 3 gbbrs do you have?
Glad you're back mate. Great video as always. 🤘
Just a quick correction, Plastic is a type of Polymer. They are not different materials.
Plastic is a material, there are different types of plastic. Polymers is a type of molecular structure.
All Plastics are Polymers, but not all Polymers are Plastics.
It's weird, and misleading, that some companies claiming that a certain thing is made of "Polymer" to sound "more quality" than made of plastic.
Keep up the amazing content, you help a lot of us. ❤️
Thanks for the info, yeah you're right!!!
I've had my first gbbr, a jg m4, since 2015. I have gamed it a few times before it started showing wear. One advantage of buying cheap is you encounter more or less the same problems higher-end gbbs suffer from at a lower cost. Yes, you can learn a lot about the basics of handling and taking care of a gbb. So far I have made a hammer pin, repaired the bolt catch, fixed mag leaks, and shortened the stroke. That's another plus, being able to work on your smithing skills and try stuff you learn from others.
You're so chill and informative man. Please keep making more videos, it helps a lot especially to us beginners
I didn't know about Super Thanks until you mentioned it. I figure you're videos and the knowledge you share have saved me a pretty penny while getting into GBBRs the last month or so.Thanks a bunch mate.
WOW Thank you so much! im a bit lost for words to be honest. Im really glad ive managed to help you and save you some money along the way too, gas blowbacks are expensive but 100% worth it!! Take case and happy slaying!
Keep up the great work Ollie! You are helping people.
The new release of Army Armament replicas now has a steel triggerbox in the G36C GBBR (bought a week ago at Taiwangun), 2 magazines included, compatible VSR/GBB bucking and barrels, all for about $160. Worth every penny...
I've already got an mws clone but if they've improved the internals I might have to check it out. Hows it held up for you over the last month
@@uzzy1364 everything is fine, the trigger mechanism is like new, the only thing worth paying attention to is the hopup chamber, e.g. when replacing the bucking, carefully screw the two halves together because the screws are delicate, it is also worth tightening the flange well from underneath, which is placed on the hu chamber and put a thin O-ring at the front under the barrelnut when assembling the HU and the barrel back. This will minimize any play. After all, when we screw the barrel assembly together, we do it on a plastic body, so it's worth stabilizing everything. The replica itself is worth every penny, but it's still AA. It is worth paying attention to the fact that the new G36C AA with a steel trigger mechanism has about 390-420 fps (there are discrepancies between the replicas I bought in the same store a week apart), it may be too strong for some airsoft cqb fields. However, after replacing the bucking with ML2021 autobot, using 0.4g bbs the range exceeds 70m , so it is more suitable for outdoor games.
I started in 2020 and went straight to GBB only because my main reason was to have a collection of guns that were closer to the real thing as a gun lover lol. Started with a WE M4 CQBR and long story short, it was a decent learning curve. That WE has now turned into a full build internally and externally, build cost is around £1300 without the mags but including the gun. I love it and wouldn’t change what I’ve learned, because with that experience, I now have a PDW build and a GHK URGI build and love them all.
that's it, its not really about the cost of the gun its about how much you love using it, bet that WE is an absolute beast in the summer! and also love that you have a PDW build, you don't see enough of them about.
Hey, just wanted to let you know that this was a really helpful video. I'm not a fan of AEGs, but I've had really bad luck with gas guns. I had a Golden Eagle M16 RIS that suffered a catastrophic malfunction on game 1. (A bb got stuck in-between the bolt carrier group and inner wall of the upper receiver. Getting it out caused significant damage to the gun and ultimately killed the whole thing.) I also had an Elite Force 1911 that's safety switch self destructed during a game. I'm a college student so I don't have a lot of money, and I just today bought an S&T M16A4 from an Evike Lighting sale, not knowing that it and the Golden Eagle were related. I was SUPER concerned that I was gonna have another $180 down the drain once I discovered the connection between the two, so your video helped sooth my nerves. I still might refund it, but at least I have a much better understanding of what to expect. I would totally go for a GHK AKM if I had the money, but I just can't spend that much on a hobby right now.
Do you guys not get the same right to repair as we do here in Europe? If my guns breaks like that I'll 100% return it.
@@spinshade Unfortunately it depends a lot on the brand your gun is made by, the company you get it from, and how much use it's been put through. Mine was a loss by the time I malfunctioned, but Evike refunded the S&T I bought with no problems.
Good topic! Because of a tight budget, my first GBBR i recently got a hold of
is a Golden Eagle M16A3 (GBBR WA); And a few pews later i am very happy. Performs pretty well straight out of the box.
Waiting to see her full performance in springtime..
An interesting video. Me and my mate have had this chat as well about a year ago. I plumbed to go second hand(virtually brand new with 7 mags for £450) and my mate could only afford a we g39c . When they are working both give a great shooting experience, however often the g39c throws a fit and has my mate cursing. But that said since he has bought the gas gun his aeg's have never been used. That has been the case for myself as well. So much better shooting experience and so much closer to the functionality of real steel.
I've always used airsoft guns to practice for shooting real ones for both military and the police in the past. I wish I had these gas rifles years back whilst still using the real ones in the police.
These days I use them to teach some tactical stuff. Guys that have only fired aeg's are generally blown away by the experience of shooting the mws.
Even the guys on the real steel range who pop over are impressed with the functionality and general performance. Plus it allows them to try some more dynamic drills in relative safety.
Keep up the great vids matey.
My first GBB rifle is the WE M4, but back in the day I am still a newbie airsofter, that poor M4 just kept being abused by me until it dead lol. But looking back in time with all the experience I have now, it was a fine gun for a beginner.
Speaking of which G36 is also my favourite platform, I love it so much that I have two of these platforms one AEG and one GBB. That AEGis fully upgraded and shoot extreme well until I purchase the VFC GBB one, then that AEG just become a wall display lol.
So true, as soon as you have a GBBR version of anything the AEG is just something to look at 😂
Great video as always Ollie! I'm glad you mentioned the wider logistical aspects of owning a GBBR, the first step one ought to make before buying one is to look for spare parts. I'd recommend a TM MP7 and if you can get one second hand like I did for 200 pounds, even better. I've also seen some VFC 416s second hand for a decent price as well, buying new can sometimes feel like a scam.
so true, loads of scammers out there at the moment so you have to have your wits about you, I still only use paypal for buying guns really just because they always side with the buyer, and I never sell anything 🤣
Your so knowledgeable it’s insane . I ended spending 480 on a Wa arms based system I’m regretting it a little cause finding mags has been a little difficult but I was able to source 7 of them . I do have to say though I did go into the purchase thinking something was gonna break cause I didn’t get a TM , GHK, or VFC and Robbie honest it has shot like a dream . Nothing has broke yet that is a functioning part! I did break the ear where the trigger guard goes trying to force the pin back in with a hammer so that’s on me and I just jb welded it back and it’s fine now but relatively it’s been an amazing Gbbr and I’m very happy with my purchase. I just wish mags were a little easier to find . The gun does take ghk gmags which is awesome but finding them in stock has been a challenge atleast in the states ! Overall great video and anyone looking to try out Gbbr should definitely take his advice cause it’s very solid advice . I’m in the market again for another Gbbr and I’m torn between a VFC or a WE and doing upgrades cause that’s where all the gun is for me upgrading or more so tuning and making it more reliable! Tough decision I’m still very torn . The MwS by far has the best performance it just lacks in realism when it comes to the trigger group which is also another reason why idk about the WE . I do remember in one of your videos you saying the trigger itself wears in nicely but I can’t imagine it will ever be as crisp as a ghk and vfc or WA . As always amazing videos and excellent information!
thank you buddy I appreciate it 😁 and yeah I don't think the MWS trigger will ever have that realistic feel, close but yeah a VFC will be a lot nicer and closer to the real thing, so will vipfrtech but those are really expensive.
He’s back! 🎉 great video as always 👍
yes buddy!!!!! great to see you!!!! and thank you ❤️
I like the idea of players, who are interested but nervous to get into GBBRs, to get something like an AA G36. But I definitely would suggest doing a lot of research into the platform to make sure parts are easily available from WE. That way they can take it out to a game day and run it for most of the day to see how they like it and it’s a great transition period.
I don’t really like suggesting any WA clone only because the system is over 20 years old and parts are becoming harder to source, especially certain upgrade parts like barrels and buckings. They also experience cooldown way harder than most other GBBRs currently on the market.
But yeah! Grab a cheaper gun and a mag or two and just have some fun with it and use it as a transition into the GBBR Master Race!
Although, playing Devil’s Advocate, I think “buy once, cry once” is also a good idea for gas rifles because you generally get what you pay for.
Another big suggestion of mine is this: if you don’t know anyone with a GBBR that you can talk to to help you with getting into the platform and assist with tuning/trouble shooting issues, then go to a game and pay attention to who is running a GBBR. If you find someone running it, go talk to them about gas rifles. They’re almost certainly an enthusiast and they will undoubtably nerd out on talking about gas guns and may even take you under their wing…or at least know someone who will. Having someone you know who is knowledgeable in gas rifles is a God send. Gas gun users are like an unofficial club and always bond at games.
100% agree. and that last paragraph, oh my goodness, SPOT ON. so Alex from the discord I met at a game about 7-8 years ago and I was running my PTS MKM (before the TM came out) and he was amazed that I was running gas in the winter, or was at least trying!!!! that PTS is awful!! but we became friends and then he needed somewhere to live and I needed a housemate to help with the rent, so I lived with him for about 3 years, and it was legit the most mental house full of guns but also sooo expensive, that man can find anything, he's one of the main reasons I have 2 genuine geissele rails. he has BCM and Noveske real steel, such a cool guy! and he setup the TM discord, what a legend!
also yeah the WA system isn't as well supported as it once was and its just not very refined. nice trigger pull tho, closer to 6-8lb.
I hyped to see you back!
(I write this before watching the video so maybe you will cover this topic),
But price in airsoft can be very misleading sometimes too. Like just cause something has a premium price doesn't always mean that that price is justified. Best example is ghk vs vfc ARs. Id always recommend VFC over GHK especially with their newer ARs they really stepped up their game.
Thanks buddy 😊
yeah the newer VFC's are looking pretty hot to be fair, id like to get my hands on their 733 and with the horror stories coming out of GHK right now I think you're 100% right.
@@OllieTalksAirsoft Definitely do! The 733 and BCM are super solid!
yeah you're right the BCM also looks 🤤
Started with the ghk g5, great platform for cqb and mags are compatible with all ghk and WA systems (vfc for example) so upgrading to other m4 systems wouldn't be a terrible money pit.
I might just get a Golden Eagle gbb and spend the time and money fixing it when it needs it. I just really like the look of it
its a good way to get started, you'll learn a lot about what you like and don't and its also great for building confidence digging into something new!
Love the tip about not investing too heavily into a GBBR early. I'll admit that I've made that mistake a few times lol. Definitely best to wait until you know that you like that replica.
Yeah man, I've got about 8 mags for my PTS mega arms and that rarely sees action any more. That's about £500 😭 If only if have known!
My opinion: If there are plenty of cheap oem parts, or better steel upgrades for the enitre trigger group, then yes.
exactly, you can't expect the world with a cheap GBBR but they are by no means bad
As I'm new to airsoft. Gbbr's is something I'm considering in the future. Me personally would rather send you £500 to choose a good gbbr for me. Your insights and info on gbbr's, (which I'm sure many other ppl will agree). Your vids are very knowledgeable 👍
thank you, yeah if you want to actually be competitive with a GBBR the TM MWS is the way forward if you want an M4 pattern, the aftermarket support is also insane, you can get folding stocks, short bolts, 9mm conversions, DMR conversions, you name it the MWS can do it pretty much. I got mine shooting 23BBs a second at 345FPS, this thing is just insane, like tuning a car you can go as far as your imagination lets you. but once you get into GBBRs you'll find it hard to go back to either electric or HPA. good luck buddy and thanks for your kind words 😊
Your videos are amazing, thanks again! Do you still plan on doing the gas smg video?
My modded WE Scar-H has probably spit out about 12k rounds by now, and my trigger system is 100% stock. I will admit I use my VFC UMP45 and UMP9 more because of the killer 2-round burst lol. Much love from Canada!
my friend just spent about $500 on a golden eagle M4, then another $400 for attachments and magazines. after not even an hour of use things started breaking and moving parts started locking up
damn, that's the thing I guess, chance of getting a lemon goes up
As an former owner of few Golden Eagles, and as a current custom builder base of Golden Eagles, I have to say they are a quite good platform to start with, but you need to know what are its quirks and how to fix them, and also what aftermarket part use to get a really good performance.
I've just ordered a golden eagle (MC6004M) which should hopefully arrive in a few weeks - what internal parts do you reccommend to buy in advance to keep it reliable?
I have WE G36, WE AKSU, WE G3, WE SCAR L, TM MP7 and TM MTR 16. i love them all and want more :)
OMG I would LOVE a G3 and a SCAR! sounds like a great GBBR collection you have there, and really good variety too, I love that!
Love your Videos! But where can I find clone GBBR?
Top videos lad
thanks buddy
Hi Ollie, thank you for your very detailed videos. What do you think of the Cyma T8? I’ve seen a very nice Cyma n4 Noveske.
im looking to get one so I can see if they are the new best cheap GBBRs
@@OllieTalksAirsoft I’ll be looking forward to your verdict.
Yes will be good. You can mod GE ar15 WA clone, to use superior VFC mags.
I understand the point. I started gbbr this years (with marui mp7) it also have a big cost, but i was figuring starting with à reputed brand is expecting having à more reliable system and play without the fear my gun broke in the middle of a game as entry in this world.
And expecting if it was'nt my cup of thea resseling it easyer than a cheap gbbr
I know this is an older video but has the army armament g36 treated you? I just got a tm mws and my firend would like a gbbr too and I dont know if I should sudgest this one to him.
not had as much use as my MWS and my AKM and its started to run on sometimes but for the price its still really cool - the markings tho 😞
Awesome video. I've been subbed for quite some time but I've finally made the leap, sold some AEGs and got myself a WE HK 416 and an Apache MP5, both for CQB.
Nice, bet you're loving the switch!! the Mp5 certainly is just so much fun to play with!!
@@OllieTalksAirsoft will be using the MP5 for the first time on Sunday. Fingers crossed 🤣
I would go for Army Armament R36, it has 2 units of magazines out of the box...and I will do some modifications later...👍👍
Talking of WE GBBR's, the MP5 Apache and AK74un have been two superb performers for me.
I've not used the 74 but I have the A5 Apache and it's awesome I love it.
Where you gone Ollie we need some more Mws or equipment/accessories videos! :)
Hey buddy, I wanted to wait till I had time to respond properly to you. Sooo im in the process of buying a house so I won't have to just film in my room any more and ill have loads more space and also no housemates either, its just been a really long and tiring process and I want to bring energy and enthusiasm to my videos rather than being a tired wreck, its also had me working longer hours and that's just had me exhausted and tbh my mental health has suffered a bit, but nevertheless im working on the hop video at the moment so hope to have it out shortly but im trying not to pressure myself too much. thanks for checking in on me, it always makes me smile when you drop me a comment 😁
Ahhh new house! Yeeeeeaaah booooi!! 🏠 when’s the house party?! 😅 sorry just seen this message just now 👍 yeah dude take your time like I say mental health comes first airsoft second 💪 that’s amazing news though so much freedom! And hopfully more videos 💥 can’t wait ❤️
Cheers dude give us all a house tour when your good and ready 🔥
thank you for this guide it really helped im looking to get the l85a2 a british army rifle for around £200 its a ebb
Would you recommend the Army Armament G36C you used in the video for a first GBBR? I was thinking about getting it for a while now but I don't know what to think of it
Since it's so cheap I would recommend it compared to spending 600+.
I just purchased a golden eagle mk18 and an elite force glock 19x for training purposes I love shooting my real steal rifle but ammo is expensive 556 is 50-70c a round and a bottle of .20s is like 20
How is the MK18? I'm considering getting one for the price but I'm not too sure yet.
Thanks
Thank you so much ❤️
@@OllieTalksAirsoft no worries man! Ive recently bought an cqbr mws and your videos have been so informative and helpful! Couldn’t help but support your channel!
One question I do have however is, ive recently bought a straight trigger and would like to install it. Would you be able to do a video on how to replace the trigger? That would be super helpful! Thank you! :)
I downloaded this for my flight back home. So thanks in advance for the entertainment Ollie 😉
Have a safe flight buddy 😊
@@OllieTalksAirsoft thank you very much bro 😇
hope you had a safe landing ❤️
@@OllieTalksAirsoft Yes thank you. I JUST landed in Germany. Now just 2 hours of driving to The Netherlands and I'm home. Thanks for the nice messages. I really appreciate it 😊
Great video thank you for making it ! I have a golden eagle M4 gbb (got it for £150ish) but struggling to find any spare parts to customise ie cqb outer/inner barrel, stocks , magazines etc. any advice of shops / sites to purchase from in the UK?
Great vid mate 🤙🏻
thanks buddy 😊
Hey, i know the video is older rarther than a newer one, but i got my hopes you will respond to me, as i am kinda nervous about switching from aegs to gbbrs, do you reccomend any gbbr? Im not talking like a cheap one or high end one, something in the middle, i was thinking about WE scar mk16, but someone told me WE is not reliable, and do you reccomend converting to hpa?
gbl is making a stamped steel receiver for the marui akm!
Siiiick, deffo want one of those!
Hello, I have been watching your akm videos and I love it. But Can you please make a video of all of the akm attachments on the tokyo muari akm? For etc, the hop up, spring, etc
I've seen a few new bits come out recently that I want to try, but I'm also buying a house so have had to cut back a bit as I'm mega stressed 😂😭 but yes that's a good idea, I like it. Thank you ☺️
tokyo mauri need to make a gas blow back version of this would be nice
100% they should do one, ive seen TM videos with a gas G36 but no idea if it was a prototype of just a WE version, I do know TM make a lot of prototypes tho
Excellent video!
thank you
Hey Ollie short update from my past basement sessions:
Done everything with lubing what you told me to do. (Used the BB session to work it in.)
Again used 144a.
Tried again with a full load of gas waiting until the valves spits, then got out one complete Load and only bit more.
Watched your gg-mod video. Will try to lower mags and aggressively try to put everything in like in the vid :D. Maybe I will weight them!
Green gas is more resistent against temperature so better option how I understoood.
Would you say: „Test again with green gas! Don‘t worry about your nozzle spring“ Than have a look at your mags!“
I‘m afraid of punishing anything. If temperature drops would green gas be my „144a gas“ during hot summer? Or will I nevertheless put still more stress on my internals? Or is the power now ok when temperature is lower?
Nozzlespring upgrade before green gas use?
And now:
Hearing test: 3 of 5 mags having those minileaks. 2 completely ok. After that relubed from outside router and output valve again. I think I‘ts really nothing important. Little nano „blub“ sound. Won‘t effect anything I think. I will ignore and if everything fails I owned the Lees Precision O-Ring set for the mags. Another user told me that maybe the mechanics under the pusher item of the valve above has got good Funktion but valve below needs some lube. Maybe pushing those pins and take the work. …but first when I played first skirm 😅✌🏽
Some important questions:
What’s your experience with the T8 feedlips?
What brand for complete set/spare nozzle should I go? There are sets and only nozzle.
And what brand for nozzle spring? There is % giving, how many percent should I go for?
Have a nice day! Thank you for sharing your big experience and that you take your time for your community 😶🌫️😶🌫️😬😬🤘🏽🤘🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Josch
I have a s&t m16a4 which uses the wa gas system and it is £150 ish, it somehow have steel internals and the gas efficiency is great
Yeah exactly, they are great guns but they usually leave you wanting more 🙈 it's a slippery slope 😂
@@OllieTalksAirsoft I wish there are more cheap gbb ak as there is only a hand full of manufacturers making them, the cheapest being wellfire but they are no where near as reliable as the wa system
Ya viper tech are solid as far as build being a forged upper and lower and all steel internals but owning a king arms which is the same system it’s basically a cheaper version of the viper tech they both can run ghk mags and all the parts are interchangeable. There is still something that draws me to a WE for whatever reason . I really wanna branch away from the m4 platform. I’m liking the mp5 , 553, or a scar16 . How do you like your dmr ? Even though it’s AR based the sr25 by vfc is beautiful! What was the name of that website you named for cheaper Gbbrs?
you can get a lot of stuff from Mike at Pewhub, they have a section on the website for special requests and he can get most stuff pretty cheap as its from the wholesaler directly, he got me my uzi. King Arms, that's a great shout for a mid their GBBR, but I know what you mean about branching away from AR's, I love the 553 or an Aug or something, and with the new G3s and Fal there's loads of great DMR options out there too. I think having an M4 as a DMR is OK ever since I saw a video of Travis Haley talking about using an M16 out over 800 meters and he knows a lot more than I do but in my book over 800meters you need to be a marksman, airsoft equivalent is probably 80 meters 🤣 I do love my DMR tho, it just shoots amazing
Always loved gbb sidearms...just got a nice Full metal m4 gbbr, and I can't fuckin wait to feel the bolt slam on it.
How about the we scar L reviews? Slightly expensive but good internals. Base on reviews, the external screws are not good at all. But since the glue are in the market its solve.
I just got a WE G3A3 GBBR so I'll be testing that lots soon, I would like a scar L but I think TM will release one and then itll work withthe mags I already have. That's a big money saving.
hey ollie im thinking of buying a a gbb we g36c is it worth it and great video btw :D
What makes you think my order won't just fall out of the sky?
@@spinshade ?
Hello mate! I met you the other week at the Roman Baths and luvin your content! Do you have any suggestions for a decent UMP GBB?
not yet but I also want one, ive been looking art the VFC on WGC shop, so reasonably priced but ive heard horror stories about them misreading and chopping BBs. the UMP9 is apparantly a bit better but who cares about the 9, I want a .45
thanks for the support too, I really appreciate it 😎
@OllieTalksAirsoft Ye 45 all the way mate haha. Good to see you back and looking forward to that shotty vid. Ben tells me it's a beaut 😁
The internals is the same as WE in the g36 and suffers from the same problem with going full auto in single
Nice, same internals just £100 cheaper
Any idea of what causes that problem of the couple shoots on semi? I'm having the same problem and dont know if it's possible to be fixed.
Can you make a video of the Maruzen M1100 if you own one? Curious on your take…
id love to but don't own one, I have held and racked one and they feel delicate in comparison to every other 870 or the Saiga. the receiver feels really thin and flimsy and the shooting performance isn't really there sadly but it has the cool factor so if I found one at a good price id still add it to the collection.
lets be real guys when you buy a gbbr regardless of price the performance is never gonna be good as hpa so you might as well not worry about performance and just get something you find cool.
HPA and AEG are the same basically, both can be made to perform extremely well but both are living a life without a soul. that's what GBBR is all about, just having fun and to be fair a well tuned GBBR fires BBs in a different way to HPA and AEG's as they both use fixed amounts of air to propel the BB (HPA not quite as much which is why they still joule creep) whereas GBBRs have gas expanding behind the BB, this is why when you try to get an HPA or AEG shooting 80Meters+ you'll struggle. This is not so with GBBRs, they can be tuned way harder and give way better results but you have to be willing to put in the time. if you get an MWS, drop in a omega nub and something like a 60 degree flamingo along with a harder nozzle spring and you'll be pinging .48s at RANGE. trust me, ive been doing this for 25 years, aint nothing I haven't tried.
and the trigger pull 🤤 not like clicking a mouse.
Hey I'm wondering what barrel and hop rubber you use in your main Mws I have a mk18 and was going to just install the laylex arm but thinking of changing it all
I'm using a maple leaf deception 60 degree and an omega hop tensioner. Great results 👍
@@OllieTalksAirsoft thanks for reply, stock hop chamber or the laylax one?
Stock
Underrated. Face put me off at first.
😂 fair
:D@@OllieTalksAirsoft
For GBBR, would suggest having reliable, more parts supported GBBR, than buying cheap GBBR but needs to spend more time to repair than playing in the field, unless you have experience in repairing cheap GBBRs
you're right, if I was running a cheap GBBR as a main I think I would struggle and yo be honest it be probably be looking at an MWS or GHK by the end of the first day, cheap GBBRs are the gateway drug to poverty 🤣
@@OllieTalksAirsoft TM/GHK ones could even the gateway to povety if changing appearence🤣🤣
Anyway, I have once thought of buying Army G36, u know it's clone to WE with modification, and it performs well, but I chose stick onto my MWS + VFC MP7 instead
what is the weight difference between a gased up tm akm mag vs an empty mag?
Only about 15-20 grams, not much at all
Im looking forward to getting this riffle in May, gonnaa be my first GBBr 😎
How is it?
does volante nozzles increase or decrease gas efficiency?
Decreases gas efficiency
i have been thinking about getting a golden eagle MC6594M. any advice on if i should get this or smth else?
There's some mws clones coming out soon which will be cheaper than the stock mws and will have the same amazing aftermarket support. Having said that if it's your first GBBR then you can't really go wrong as long as you don't buy loads and loads of mags as they are mega expensive. The Golden Eagle will be a lot of fun but won't do as well in the cold and will be a bit more wobbly than a more expensive GBBR
@@OllieTalksAirsoft thank you so much for the response! do you have any recommendations for good gbbr that i would get after i know i want to get into gbb?
The TM MWS is probably the best Airsoft gun on the planet. In stock form it wipes the floor with everything else. Most people go though a few GBBRs and end up with the MWS and after that everything else is a wall hanger. Sad but true.
@@OllieTalksAirsoft thank you so much for the second responce. i will definitely get into gbb once i save up a little more money
get a vfc m4 they´re best
Tbh WE G36 has potmetal internals aswell lmfao
True dat
I want a full metal gbb spas 12.
me too, hopefully once Tokyo Marui release the Saga 12K the Spas 12 can't be far behind 🤞
150 pounds sounds like a steal where did you get it from
Wgc shop I think, it was a steal but there usually cheap everywhere
Where can I buy a kwa Mac 11 ns2 metal body kit pleaseee
they're pretty hard to find to be honest, I saw some recently on JK army but I just checked and they sold out. best bet is to go to JK and leave your email on the restock alert so you know when they come back in stock. in fact id do that for any website that has them, just leave your email on the restock alert and hopefully one will come through for you.
@@OllieTalksAirsoft thanks
no worries bro, good luck with the search!
SEIG GBBR!
eh just get a Umarex H&K417D V2
JUST, that's a big old rifle and not a cheap one. but a very cool one!
Recommending to NOT buy mags but an aftermarket innerbarrel is a very odd recommendation imho.
90% of airsoft innerbarrels which come ootb are JUST FINE. Just change the tensioner and bucking first
Yeah I don't really think I made my point particularly well, in my experience cheap GBBRs shoot hot, well hot for the UK (more than 350fps) so swapping the inner barrel allows you to drop the FPS and also replace one of the cheaper parts of a cheap GBBR, if you see what I mean. I should have mentioned about them shooting hot then it would have made more sense. and I agree about the tensioner too, that's a cheap and effective upgrade. thanks buddy 😊
@@OllieTalksAirsoft i see mate. good point!
yeah using a shorter innerbarrel is how I want to throttle my TM AKM since there is no adjustable NPAS out there for the new nozzle design... yet.
Gateway gun
100%
Don't hate the player hate the game I know a Grifter when I see one
bro
Alright so my 2 cents:
I started with a WE-tech Open bolt M4. (416)
500$ canadian brand new.
First caveat; i wanted too make sure it was internally as solid as it could be, so i replaced the:
hammer, trigger, sear and valve knocker with RA-Tech.
Without replacing these parts, you will eventually run into double firing issues and such. These upgrades cost me another 100$.
Keep in mind i could easily source the WE- replacement parts for cheaper, but i went all in with ra tech.
NOTE: ONLY REPLACE THE PARTS STATED ABOVE( sear,hammer,valveknocker,trigger) or you WILL wear out the other parts and do more damage than good!! Dont bother with changing the BOLT on a WE-tech m4, the ra tech one will beat your gun too death and smash your hop up unit.
Th we tech is almost a 1:1 replica internally, which is really cool. You feel like you are working on a real AR, and you can fit alot of real steel parts on it, so if your in North America that's something too consider.
Also try and avoid using the bolt catch as much as possible, its gonna wear out eventually, which means you would have too replace the bolt but then have too replace the hopup unit too as ive already said thats risky...
Oh dont forget it shoots HOT like 450, so you will also need a 30$ npas unit that may or may not work depending on how new it is...( old ones apparently were trash? Mine works fine)
Now, 65$ a mag, 3 mags later... its a 800$ loadout.
Know what else is an 800$ loadout?
My Tokyo Marui MWS CQBR. Which brings me too my next point.
If you can afford it buy the TOKYO MARUI MWS (or akm if you go that way)
It needs nothing, it asks for nothing. It is its own proprietary system that WONT BREAK especially if you run it on duster gas like me. The bolt catch wont wear out because like i said,its system is solid.
The difference is spec. The WE tech can accept real steel parts more readily, and is mil spec, i think you can even fit RS rails but dont quote me on it. Where as wih TM its all TM/AEG spec, and you will need certain aftermarket adapters too fit certain handguards and rails, so customization can be a bit trickier with the TM.
All in all, if you can afford a TM get one, but the WE-Tech is still a great platform, it just might need some help along the way, and might eventually cost you what the tm cost. (Yeah okay if you buy mags for the tm it will get up there too in price)😂
If you want realism and maintenance = WE-Tech
If you want reliability and some parts confusion= TM
GBBR MASTER RACE.🫡💯
so, wait for a umarex g36 it is for me
It'll deffo be better quality, I'm sure badabing got one and did a review
@@OllieTalksAirsoft will take a look. Thanks!