Is it really worth investing in a £500 carp fishing rod? Long-Term Carp Tackle Review | Carp Fishing
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- Is it really worth investing in a £500 carp rod? Long-Term Carp Tackle Review | Carp Fishing
In this carp fishing 2020 review, CARPology's Joe Wooltorton talks us through his opinions and experience of using a set of Daiwa's high-end Basia X45 DF Carp Rods for the last 3 years. Used in multiple countries and on countless venues and still going strong, but are they really worth the investment?
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if you can afford it why not , who cares as long as you enjoy ya fishing . Super rods 👍
wear and tear gives them character! I bought myself a set of Top of the range Free Spirit Pike rods, always wanted a pricey set, and when I finally had cash on the hip, bit the bullet, I have only used them once and had 3 mid doubles on them on there maiden outing and was well impressed, I bought them too as an investment, I will review them too later down the line, looking forward to when there weathered and character like yours! nothing wrong with a cheaper rod nowdays, you get alot of bang for your buck.... but its nice to have something that is just that bit special...;)
If you like fishing buy the rods , you can't take it with you , it's only money .
Just bought a pair of personal split cane 2lb test curve rods from Andrew j Davis . Had to wait a year , didn't know if I should frame them and hang them on the wall or take them fishing they are so beautiful .
They will be going fishing tho , they deserve it
Can’t justify paying that for a rod I’ll stick to my sonik xtracters my 3rod setup cost less
I have Sonik Vader X 2.75lb test curve 12ft rods.
In carp fishing the item you should spend the most on is the rod. Reels and bite alarms should always be set at a lower budget have a rod that is capable of punching out solid bag out over 100yds with ease and confident
@@garethwinstanley8843 I've got different rods for different jobs from 2.75lb fast action long distance /3lb semi fast action /3.25lb all through action/and 3.5lb semi fast action my floater rod and my 9ft 3lb rods I must have OCD lol
Sonik dominator x rs are all the rods i will ever need, always rated sonik rods
Just took delivery of mine can't wait to use them at weekend
And me mate, I have the Vader X in cork can’t fault them
Sonik rods are ok reels are terrible though
@@Me-ef1ts what's issue with them mate ?
Ich nutze immer noch meine alten ESP CarpTracer. Ich liebe diese Ruten und hatte noch keinen Grund sie zu tauschen🤩🤩🤩
Once upon a time maybe... but nowadays you absolutely can get get rods in same league for quarter of price.
I don't know about £500 rods, but I would like a decent set of carp rods at some point. Currently I'm using a pair of Shakespeare Cypry 12ft rods and I've never had a problem with them. I'll replace them eventually, just not sure what with.
In short no way, get some hand made Harrisons for nearly half the price, at least £250 of that Daiwa rod price is simply Fairbrass tax!
well said sir that korda tax is a joke. I refuse to own anything korda
@@gavinbryant9699 I wont cut my nose off despite my face, some of their gear is good, problem is they've been eeking the prices up on general tackle for years so other manufacturers follow so it hurts us all (corner a market then tell the people thats what you're paying much like the Cocaine industry), some people buy into the BS that Fairbrass feeds them! Korda endorsed Delkims are crap, Basia rods are good but way over priced, hooks cost Korda 8p or so a packet to make (NO JOKE) and they flog them to mugs for £4.50 a packet!
@@RodDuster I fully agree m8, hooks are the rip off. I do my own hooks from from nails i get from screwfix and i pay £2.50 for a kilo! I also did my own rods from neighbours tree and I am thinking of doing my own braid from sheep's wool but they are difficult to catch.
@@onemaninaboat Foook me you've been ripped off too, you really should try Tool Station as their nails are a lot cheaper than Screwfix!
@Seamus McShamish maybe 30 years ago bud but rods are made of carbon now
I still use my 2014 nash Dwarfs, never had any issues with them, 3 cost less than half of what 1 of those costs.
I'm with you buddy .
The dwarfs are truly awful !
@@mattp2657 I had the latest ones, two tips snapped. Sod Nash rods again.
@CARPologyTV what rods would u recommend for a lower price ?
fox eos
Awesome video and great rods but how much is that in us dollars a piece? I have the Sonik Vader X 2.75lb test curve 12ft rods.
£500 is like $700, stick with the vader x's can get a 3 rod setup for half the price of 1 basia and still casts 80% as far
But are they worth the money, you wax lyrical about them but never touch on vfm....
If you like the rods and have the money then just buy them if it makes you happy 😊
So joe after having bought the Vader x rs combo on your review. What would you say the difference is and at the prices what would you say was the best value pound for pound
I can only comment on my first impressions of the sonik kit as I don't have them for long when filming them, but all things sonik I can't fault..I use some sonik bits myself. My bivvy is one of theirs and its less than half the price of my previous bivvy and I love it. When it comes to their rods, again, you really can't fault them. I guess with my rods I can only relate it to cars. A standard skoda octavia estate vs a skoda octavia vrs estate. Both carry the same amount of kit inside, but I much prefer rocking up to the lake in my vrs. Call is fashion/pompous but that's how I see it. :)
I get your point mate and wasn't trying to sound like a dick just after a opinion between the two . Cheers for reply
@@truckinghell1655 I didn't take it the wrong way at all. :) this video was supposed to start a discussion and it has 😁
Definitely has mate . Only thing missing from the sonik rods I've had is cork handles I love a cork handle .while I've got your attention for a second what 60 inch brolly system would you recommend mate around the £200 Mark seen you review a few bit can't decide cheers
@@truckinghell1655 to be honest I've not looked at any brolly systems in a while but I would again recommend the axs brolly. Ita the same shape at the axs shelter and bivvy but slightly lighter due to a thinner material and no rear vents but it will still fit the overwrap if you wanted to make it a bivvy
Simple answer NO! There are some excellent rods for half that price 👍
There are some excellent rods with just two figures.
Daiwa Crosscast for example.
Simple amswere if you can afford them get them
If not then don't
Plus i still use Nash hooligun rods 12ft carp rods lovely,, i think people just upgrade for the he'll of it i think its called tackle tarts
Those rods are worth every penny I use daiwa amorphous 12 2/ 3/4 I love them and with daiwa even the 3lbs 3/1/2 they still feel lovely under the tip plenty of play .
Are you having a laugh 😂
They are not worth the money
Have a set and everyone saying there are not worth it have clearly not used a set ! Stick with the soniks 😂🙈
@@mattp2657 thing is im 45 years old been carp fishing 33 years daiwa amorphous were the choice of anglers like rob maylin zennon and rayel bojko all the old school anglers amorphous is actually a fibre they use in the making of touring cars which makes the rods super strong today carp anglers just dont understand just how good these rods are .
@@judderzm2252 couldn’t agree more ! Think a certain group like to form the anti df crew and forget about the actual product. The Harrison’s mentioned here are great rods but it becomes personal choice
For what your using your rods for you've well over spent. Could of get everything you needed for a 1/3 of the price
Value for money long term? No is the answer to that one
Agree
sounds like you're hoping for a new free set.
Load a crap new rods high prices,, caught my PB on a second hand Daiwa Kevlar Whisker carp rod 10 quid off a car boot top eye missing got it repaired wish i still had it.
But that rod was the second best rod Daiwa sails at the time, around £175. That’s about £400 in today’s money. It was a top quality rod when new.
Im using a triplet off Sportex Catapult Carprods. Them 3 cost at the time €465 for the 3. Cant fault them yet. Using them 3years now. And they are identical 🤣
Sounds like you're so worried about breaking them because of the cost. How many extra fish have they caught you?
For 500 quid they should be identical. That to me is just poor craftsmanship. I bought a set of greys aircurve when they first came out and they were the same, 1 tip section fitted better than the other, I sold them on. Ordered a set of hand made century blank rods from rod builder nick Buss, and every little detail was identical between the 3 rods. No way Daiwa quality control should allow such poor work. Flagship rods or just flagship prices. This video has put me off ever purchasing a set of Daiwa rods, so that’s 2 companies on my no go list now. I’ll stick to true British hand made craftsman who care about the product they produce.
All daiwa top end rods are made in Britain and all hand made
@@marcwilkinson7226 Hi @ Marc, your correct, but the blanks are made china.
Can't believe you can only manage around 100yds with these rods, should manage 130/140 yds, was getting 110/115 yds (measured) over 40 years ago with my Cloopers.
For your fishing to 100 yards-90m its a waste off money.....i fish 130-140 m and for that range you need quality rod that can handle that cast ranges
Can you recommend some rods and reel combos for me I’m a beginner
@@matsmith5279 ok thanks I’ll check them out
Sonik Vader x rs
@Seamus McShamish ok thanks I’ll check it out
@@matsmith5279 shiamno tx2 are the best rods iv ever owned because the price is so reasonable, powerful rods and a bargain
I use daiwa, but only the G50 12ft/3.5lb ones, great rods, anough power to use long range, if need be. I need a rod for fishing, not one that will be expensive. I mean, who can afford rods like that? surely not "normal budget" people. Buy it if you want, by all means, it is a free world, but still... £500 is way steep, and not even that fancy...
If you know what to look for, you can buy a whole kit for less than the price of one of those rods.
Get on the shimano tribal extremes in 3.25... full alps metal wear 👍👍👍👍
Or tx2s
Everyone is going to have there own opinion on this, and it’s funny reading all the ‘no I’m out’ comments... Anyone who says that, is either not serious about there angling, or simply can’t afford it! Either is fine... I would never comment or slate a man for using a £30 rod, it’s where we all come from, but it’s hilarious to see those slate us guys who do have the £500 rods! Who bloody cares, just go fishing!! Century all day you porpers!!
When the fish learn to only take bait from a £500 rod is when you can use the 'you don't take your angeling serious enough' argument. If I fish with a rod half the price and can catch exactly the same carp why does rod price matter.
@@mattmayor2628 I think in my comment above i said it doesn’t matter either? Who cares the price?
Have you ever used Century Rods?
I find century rods are a bit like bargepoles A bit thick a bit heavy and a bit ugly, have a look at free spirit far better rods
NOT worth it! You can get better performance with a cheaper price! An excellent choice would be any of the Tribal Tx range (Tx2 and Tx5 are great examples). Own a couple myself and have absolutely no complaint. I'm no great caster but i can reach 180yd with them when i really try.
I’m looking at the tx9 intensity 13 ft 3.5lb models any reviews?
@@jessicapotter2012 I do not recommend the Tx 9, as it is a very stiff rod. Only if you want it for extreme distances. I think the Tx Ultra would be a much better blend of fish playing and distance. Especially the new 2021 Tx Ultra - A which is able to cast over 220 yards.
@@andizgarta6773 Shimano tribal tx ultra 13 ft 3.5lb tc this is what I meant.
I’m looking to be fishing 120-130 yards.
Are these a good bet ? Thanks
@@jessicapotter2012 Sure are! Arguably some of the best rods out there! I have a set myself and they haven't ever failed me. On the contrary, I continue to be impressed by their performance. I will be considering buying the new 2021 Tx Ultra A when it is finally released to the market.
But you never actually gave us your opinions as to whether they were or not. Is it because you don't want to incure the wrath of Danny Fairbrass?
If you are stupid rich or if you got sponsor, YES .But if you are a regular dude, nope not rly, they only way a rod worth inventing 500£ is only if you fish at extreme distances and you go compete. Other than that if you are fishing at 40m - 60m you can use any broom handle. Now looking at my wife.. she spends more on bags and shoes.. so.. i'm confused....
Couldn't buy a rod with df on it..
I'll stick with my TX7's 3 rods for £50 more than you paid for one of yours
Agree!! I've the cheaper still tx4's and they're incredible for money... and yes I also own some top end daiwa and Harrison. In answer to his question do you need to spend the money. Definitely not 👍
@@shaneinman915 nephews got the TX4s matched with the XTD's balance on them is phenomenal
I bet if i bought a half decant pair of blank that looked like these and put baiser ad df stickers on them . Then i could start my own bussiness off. Blimey i wouldnt even have to try the lottery then . The amount of profit that id make. Now who wants to invest in shares in my new business
Your paying for the name it’s that simple. I bet you can cast any 3.25 tc rod 100 yards with a rod that’s £100-£150 quid
£500!!! Unless these have been whittled from a 200 year old oak tree that had been grown in King Arthur's back garden & watered from the Holy Grail, then I'm out!!!
Harrison Torrix custom built k series rings and alps arc reel seat ! better rod and much cheaper .......... no Danny Tax 👍
@Seamus McShamish Harrison dont use chinese blanks
Defo would buy 500 quid rods 600 rods if I had the money.
Better rods less TC degradation and loss of hoop strength.
rods are rods simple as that ,the rods dont catch the fish ,,,, ya can catch a fish with a hand line ,
Get some cheaper rods n put the rest on a decent syndicate n up your pb. Simples
Haha the answer is NO especially those roach poles shit loads of better quality rods on the market im happy i hung my tart badge up years ago now i concentrate on my angling .
Century stealths all day long
To be honest it sounds like you've paid Ferrari money to drive below the speed limit.
No.
You had set ?
@@colinjunior6408 nope, I refuse to pay that much for a fishing rod.
500 quid is day light robbery
There is no other answer than NO there not worth it,how can they possibly be,some people are definitely getting their pants pulled down by these tackle company's
Maybe £50 for the rod And £450 in Mr Fairbrass back pocket lol, do yourself a favour and buy free spirit far better rod in every way
Clearly never used a set !!
@@mattp2657 seen them, held them, use them, nowhere near as good as my free spirits in looks and performance 👍
@@dylanthedyslexicvillain4294 I gave up my freespirits for these and never looked back ! And never thought I would say that. Each to their own though.
First let's goooo
No lol can catch on a stick
No absolutely not
Too expensive
NO!!!
NO
No
I've got some daiwa 3 1/2 euro spec rods had them twenty years think I paid 360 for them still going strong
No!
yep just nope
makes me laugh this guy is just a tart, he will tell you anything to get paid, whoever makes it most of what you see on these promos is BS to get you spending and all of you who pointed out the same thing he still did not answer the bloody question just imagine if we all stopped buying the expensive stuff watch the prices fall the carp industry is worth billions to these company's so they will just keep making stuff for you to buy
Don’t know how people can pay more for mass made rods when hand built ones by English rod builders that have been in the game for donkeys years will charge you less, Danny tightarse laughing all the way to the bank
@Seamus McShamish cmon bro cause you own them all doesn’t tell me they’re the best also these are df ones do you have all the x45 and df ones? Also have you used free spirit and century let alone Harrison?
The basia are hand made in England mate 🙈! The brands you mention also produce stunning rods as you say but you can’t take away from the fact the basias are too rods just because you don’t like df