Eric Bischoff On The Problem Of Having Too Much Talent On A Roster
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Eric share this thoughts on the number of AEW talent on their roster
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Well, you can't just ram people on TV if they have no mic skills. Doing 50 high spots a match means nothing after a week if the person can't speak on the mic. You have to have people who can get themselves over in multiple ways.
There were people on AEW tv that had were do nothings. The matches weren't interesting. They never spoke on the mic. There was hardly any angles. And there doing spots that should be reserved for one ppv a year not ever week on dark. I think Tony is slowly learning with networks advice and why certain people got titles. Kris Statlander and Orange Cassidy that were misused. I mean look at the Bunny being released and other people. Is Tony finally realizing you cant higher the idiot friends of friends who can't talk on the mic and nobody knows about.
If a wrestler isn’t good on the mic, but is great in the ring; then the solution is to give that wrestler a manager. The wrestler can work on the promo skills backstage behind the camera.
@@darnellwallace3746They don't need a manager. The in-ring speaks for itself. But you can't have everyone not being able to speak. Someone like Deeb doesn't need a manager -- she needs tv time.
80’s remedy for huge bulk muscular guys that couldn’t get over on the mic was Managers!!!! Bring back great managers, that’ll be a plus any way u slice it but yea I agree, we’ve seen all the high spots let’s get some good stories goin.
@@darnellwallace3746some people like that could benefit from a manager for sure like what Paul Heyman did for Brock Lesnar. On the other hand, if you have the right person and right creative then certain talent might not need a manager even if they don’t have mic skills. Look at Goldberg back in the days of the streak, it was better that he didn’t talk or have a mouthpiece talking for him.
It's almost like one of Conrad's brain cells is just figuring out that AEW is a terribly run promotion.
I agree with everything Eric says here 💯, but Tony Khan's biggest problem is he simply doesn't know what he's doing. He's had stars and let them fade. Look at Wardlow and Miro. Tony struck gold with them and pissed it away.
that happens with everyone. it happened in wwe and and in wcw. it happens because of betting on the wrong guy or bad booking that ruined a career (austin theory with money in the bank us title cash-in) or just bad timing.
tony is new to the game, he fails and he learns. the show has gone better, and the flip-flop wrestlers are not the main attraction of the show anymore.
A big part of it. Is because social media and IWC is louder than ever. WWE and WCW always had this problem. Now more than ever, every wrestler has a fanbase and they complain about "when their guy doesn't get time or they can't get over". Eric is right 100%, there is no formula for getting guys over, regardless of what the IWC wants to say. Folks always have a million ideas and then folks have a million reasons why they won't work. Most payoffs are not scripted or planned, tho some are, it's not easy. The decision makers make a lot of mistakes, only guys like Vince, Eric and others know this. TV time does not equal being over, the guy has to sell it (Cena was/is gold on the mic). Khan lives by social media and fears failure, denies failure and never learns.
Very true, there are people acting as if the butcher and the blade just need a push to get over...
Dave thinks great storylines are guys kicking out of 637265 dangerous looking moves that involve guys landing on their necks.
That’s all those NXT Takeovers matches was about. Ppl used to get mad at me. I’m like the only reason u guys are saying that was good because of the 100 near falls. That’s how that Amber Moon girl “got over” because that’s all she did in her matches
4:42 “They’re special people that have that magic and you have to be able to identify it. And it’s not based on what appears to be more often than not, Olympic level floor gymnastics.” 💣
Burn ointments are sold separately.
Eric saying “be ready” was real. As many pushes as fans have asked for there are just as many that drop the ball when they get it.
Look at the posters promoting AEW PPVs. They have like 40 wrestlers on them and their image is so small that if you take one step back, you can't tell who anyone is. WWE posters usually has one or two guys on it. Roman Reigns and someone else.
Spot on. The majority of people's Mount Rushmore could probably go in the ring, but I bet they are all stacked with charisma.
LA Knight turned me. I hated his copy cat gimmick at first, but his promo work drew me in. yEA! 😂
Say yea to me ❤
Let me talk to ya
@@rockcatinc.4814 just found out he from 20 minutes from where I grew up. A damn hometown hero. YEA! 😂
Funny because when I saw him in NXT and heard his promos I never thought of him as a copycat. He just seemed to have the same cadence as The Rock. It made him stand out from the rest.
@@jmiyagi12345 that it did. When we use to do backyard/church indie shows, we sounded like LA Knight, except bad copies of multiple wrestlers. At one time I came out like Goldberg, but talked like Brett Heart. It was a hot mess. lol
Oddly… it’s surprising how much I agree with Eric today, but back in the 90’s I was very anti-WCW. Partially maybe tribalism, but even in WWf low point in 94-96 , they brought in Vader, Austin, Pillman, Mankind, Rhodes, Mero, all my favorite WCW guys from 92-93, while WCW turning into Hogans show.
Love hearing Eric’s insight today. I’ll have to go back one day and watch WCW soon. See how my perspective has changed in those key years.
Best thing to happen to WCW... They had been losing money every year. 1995 was their first year where they cut even
4:05 “Because unless you’ve got charisma. That intangible magic that separates all those who can from those who become. Anybody can learn (not anybody cause I tried), anybody how to play a guitar. What makes Stevie Ray Vaughan? What made BB King?” 💣
Man those are facts if you don't have that how the hell are you going to get over you need to get yourself over before you do anything else
I feel every day I see you they just put random ass guys on TV but no reason like nobody cares about the nobody does like it did just because they're on TV or having a bad day to get over no just random guy it's always been put on TV I want to see never get put on for no reason
Well, as a guy who plays guitar I would say passion and commitment. You have to love what you do and you have to do it regularly. When you watched guys like Eddie Van Halen or Stevie Ray Vaughan or Jimmy Hendrix the first thing you notice is how much they enjoy doing what they're doing. They had a deep passion for playing and that comes through when you watch them.
@@jbellflower83 Liking what you do and being good at it doesn't make you a star. The people who become big stars have "it." Fans pay to see concerts for acts that entertain them. No one says, "Honey, throw the kids in the car, let's go watch this guy who plays the guitar good and likes it!"
It' often gets overlooked how genius of a booker Eric Bischoff was during those early WCW days
He stole an idea from Japan about an invasion that’s it
Only by smarks
A legend in his own mind - he dropped the ball. He had a fairly simple idea and the toys to run it.
He was too full of himself and too far up Hogans arse to keep going which is why everything collapsed
*Kevin Sullivan
Bischoff really didn't book much. He created the nWo idea, but for the most part stayed out of creative until later
The one thing I've realized about AEW and Tony: they desperately need MJF to re-sign if he hasn't already. He's one of the very few people on their roster that fans outside of the AEW bubble, the 800k that'll watch no matter what, care about.
That would be a devastating loss for Tony.
MJF is not over with the general public...... Tony can let him go and WWE will try to put him over and Tony can try to focus on ex WWE guys like TNA did.
If MJF leaves, AEW is done.
@@rmunoz93nope. We got Kenny omega and young bucks and hangman page ❤
Tony Khan forgets half his talent, yet some of his talent don't get screen time while AEW keeps bringing in guys like Kazuchika Okada and Will Osprey which don't have AEW contracts while they are brought in to keep thd AEW marks happy by giving them pointless 5 star matches.
AEW needs to release the talent they are not using and focus on the talent that get TV time.
And let's be real: these 185 lbs cosplayers who just do flips or "strong style" (which is just a way of saying "our no-selling is okay because JAPAAAAAAAAAN") are never gonna get over like MJF or LA Knight.
They can't do that because the wrong guys are getting tv time. Miro, Andrade, Pac, Malakai, Archer, Bandido, Deeb, Martinez and Bunny should not be released. They should be on tv every week, or every other week. The issue isn't that Tony doesn't rate them, it's that he doesn't know how to book them. He's got a 100 guys and girls that should get dropped before any one of them.
Right before the Invasion angle, WWE had the perfect amount of guys. There was around 50ish guys and like 10ish women, that were able to be featured on tv regularly. And you could enjoy the top guys of course but you could also see the younger/newer guys progress and develop. you could see Tajiri, and crash, and rhyno, and others getting better at the WWE style. And you could see guys who were missing something try to repackage themselves and add new dimension, a new finish or something. That quest to progress and move up the card that is the best storytelling there is. Seeing eddie guerrero progress from cruiserweight to IC, to world champ, is infinitely more interesting than the b-movie storylines. Seeing christian progress from a skinny mute in a stable to a mainevent star is the best part of wrestling. Those journeys are what eric bischoff didnt get in WCW and what tony khan doesnt get today.
If it were that simple, the WWE wouldn't have been declining every year since 2000
@@blueblur2273The biggest problem with WWE is having writers that have done literally nothing in the wrestling business booking angles and matches. That's why most of it is terrible, because they don't even understand why people watched wrestling in the first place.
Let’s be real, most on the IWC like subpar talent because it gives them an underdog to always cheer for as a shoot, outside of the work on TV. It makes them feel like they know better than other people, especially the people in charge, who they claim to hate but would drop to their knees if ever given the chance in real life
Someone getting over then dictates the TV time. Not the TV time dictating who gets over. There's plenty of examples of wrestlers who had plenty of TV time who dont get over, and then fade into the midcard. Conrad has that the wrong way round in my opinion.
Exactly. MJF got little TV time originally but was still over. He got so little TV time that he started talking about ratings per minute instead of per segment.
Still need tv time initially to get noticed, then obviously, if the guy is getting over deserves more of that,I think that’s why it’s important to have someone there looking over the numbers on specific segments, looking over the crowd reactions, looking over the merch sales
TV time is such a limited resource, a booker has to use their secondary shows to let the talent tell their stories. Then reference those stories on TV so the TV audience is up to speed on what's happening on Main Event or Dark.
Eric shitting on uncle dave I love it 😂
AEW's biggest problem is Tony Khan is presenting an NJPW show with a WCW coat of paint.
Well put
Eric is correct. Rey Mysterio and Richochet can do the moves but they have no personality which is why theyll only get so over. Theyre just occasional sideshows
Eric was the Tony Kahn of his era. In 96-97 he was signing every wrestler, or stealing every wrestler, under the sun.
Difference is, WCW was fun, entertaining, and considered cool even by non fans. Ill take Ultimo Dragon over Orange Cassidy any day
Except he knew how to use talent
@@Smokey1419 I'll take Alex Wright over Pockets.
@@adamasmiecute hair cut
As much I had despised Eric during his time in WCW and TNA, at least he knew how to handle talent much better than Tony. That's a fact. I believe on one of his podcast, Eric explained the reason why he had so many shows a week because his roster was overloaded. Take for example, WCW Pro in the mid 90's was jobbers vs lower card guys. WCW Saturday and Worldwide, was similar but this time it was mostly mid cards against either a lower card or jobber. Plus on Nitro, he mostly let the luchadores and cruiserweights have their own matches in the middle of the show while the upper card and main eventer for their last hour of the show. Another thing was at least Eric had his limit when it came to signing the amount of wrestlers from other countries. Tony just signed every Japanese and Mexican wrestlers that came through that door. Whenever Tony got rid of Dark for a higher program Collision, I wasn't too happy about it because Dark was the showcase for the lower card talent or wrestlers made a one time appearance.
I loved AEW up until around a year ago, but now im bored with all the table spots/30 close kickouts on every episode of dynamite. Sometimes less is more. Save this stuff for the ppvs.
Also they have obsession with no world title rematches unless forced through an injury. So you have Jericho, Moxley or Hangman on top and when they lose the title they just fade into midcard. This not only ruins moumentum for them but doesn't make sense as why would they be the best one minute then justt forget about it the next. They would be obsessed with getting the title back. I get that it can get boring but you can get 3 matches easily out of a title rivalry if the characters are interesting enough.
Apart from MJF/Cole i cannot think of one decent storyline that they have done which ends on a cliff hanger everyweek making you want to tune in next week. Dont even get me started on the amount of boring/ forced groups they have....yes im looking at you Bullet club gold.
I agree putting just a bunch of matches together and no real storylines is horrible. When AEW first started they were building their core talent and had more storylines. They need to stop doing this dream match making all the time and get back to their roots.
Initially they were able to connect with stuff that had been done previously between some talent (Pac v Page, etc..) which was all made on the independents prior to AEW starting...
Once they were burnt they created nothing. So TK tried the regular spot shows with dream matches with no build, and burnt through them.
Now they are at the brining in old talent. The top talent away from MJF is Christian... so now they are in the mid 2000s TNA stage.
@@scottmcginn2169 I agree with that but now the problem is they will over use the same talent. Over using MJF will make people get tired of seeing him so much. He still needs build up other talent along side showcasing MJF and other top guys. They also need to build the woman’s division back up to where it was. For a while they had the best woman’s division between WWE and AEW. Now WWE has them beat.
@@DF-ud7un the problem is that noone will do the honours for MJF. Daniel Bryan did, Punk would have done an extended feud.
Omega will, if it's in front fo 200 people ona pre-empted show and he doesn't look bad in the loss.
You're right, MJF needs guys built and fed to him. INstead TK brings in guys who have an Indy following, puts them to MJF, but any fan who is not up on what went down at the spot show in Wichita 18 months ago has no idea.
I love wise old man Eric.
Education Eric is where the money is made.
@@TheCaptainSlappy Hence why he had to declare bankruptcy in 2017 for a second time after 1992? 🤣
@@ShadowAngel18606 That doesn't mean they can't teach how to fail, and how not to, while making money at it.
More TV time is one thing... more meaningful TV time is better. Dana Brooke was on TV with WWE regular for years, and no one gave a sh*t about her. There has to be a nucleus of something for the TV time to have meaning.
You see with AEW, there is only one brand with three different shows. With the WWE, that promotion has three separate sub-promotions (Raw, Smackdown and NXT).
Tony Khan needs Ring of Honor to be that second separate sub-promotion within AEW. Reassign 25% of AEW roster to Ring of Honor and have Ring of Honor become ROH: Collison on Saturday nights.
I think Tony Khan thinks more shows equals getting more of his stars in TV. And it's clearly not working. You just gotta keep booking better angles and switch up their character if what they're doing now isn't working. You'd think.
I find it difficult to believe that anyone who’s been watching WWE would be frustrated w/ the current product. They preferred women sneaking up behind each other with banana cream pies? The preferred 4-5 matches being announced for “next week!” and then NONE of them happening? They preferred story-lines that were dropped half way through for no reason? They preferred wrestles who were insanely over with the crowds being forced to lose constantly because Vince didn’t like that someone got over on their own? Give me a break…
A storyline is one of the most important aspects in wrestling. WCW and WWE always did a good storyline with Goldberg, he couldn’t talk on the mic, and he was subpar in the ring, but the storylines always hooked people. AEW will create a storyline that should be a 6 month affair, and turns it into a 6 hour affair. Look at how they book MJF for example, every time he is involved in a storyline that might be intriguing, he’s already being thrown in another angle before the first one was concluded in a PPV match. The feud he had with CM Punk was entertaining, and should still be happening, but it was over before it really started gaining full steam.
Meltzer has always been fair with his AEW coverage. There has been a shift in the coverage because there has been a shift in the product. AEW is a lot colder now than it was even 1 year ago.
I used to love NXT UK as it had a tight , small roster and was easy to follow
Its the 80 : 20 rule. Lets say you have 2 or 3 podcast hosts. One of those will eat 80% of the food
I'm starting to get the feeling that Eric doesn't like Dave Meltzer.
Hi Conrad my name is Bridget and I’m from Michigan and I’ve always want to meet you and Eric and wanted to ask a question for Eric do you think about going back to general manager again ? And I would like to meet Vince too
I think the word “Talent” is massively over exaggerated when it comes to AEW.
Needs to have two 2 hours show, a Friday night house, & a Tues ROH and treat it like NXT.
Agreed
Thats rich coming from him. He signed guys to contracts in wcw that he didnt even use like the genius
Cut him some slack. He admitted to his mistakes. Talked about leaning more from his failures.
Sure
You’re missing the point
Isn't your Father in law Dic Flair in A.E.W.
Meltzer is finally being honest about AEW. After he's spent years convincing Tony Khan that he's the "greatest booker ever." When that's just not true. A little too late. Some of the recent Dynamites have been unwatchable for me.
Eric is right about Meltzer changing his tune about AEW now that the wheels are falling off
Dave is trying to gracefully pull away so he doesn't get any on him.
lol, Dave is a joke. he’s as much of a joke as his unofficial biased and incompetent star rating system. Would love there to be an official rating system with the likes of bret hart, angle and cornette being the ones that judge the matches
@@paulwoodford1984He stole the star rating system itself from Cornette and Norman Dooley in the first place.
I hate how they put random guys on TV that nobody cares about that nobody knows who they are the people that I care how about or want to see them don't get to be on TV they put these random guys and girls that nobody knows who they are and they expect to get over but just having a match for one thing they do is try to put a guy that nobody knows with a guy who's over or has star power and it runs the guy that's getting over or the guy that has star power how are you going to put a guy that's over with somebody who sucks it's going to ruin the other guys credibility
I live AEW, I want them to succeed, I watch the programs and 99% of Eric’s takes on the company are correct and fair…
I agree there’s only so much Tv time to get guys over and AEW book ROH title matches on AEW Tv which takes time away from everything else…
I’ve always been a fan of how old school bookers booked their world champions, where when you saw the champion it was special, promos and segments were used to build up the big match where the champion and the challenger both had their short spots to build to the payoff which was the Pay Per View or Main Event Special, otherwise the world champion rarely wrestled on Tv… you focus on the story…
Not every show, every week has to have 3 or 4 title matches on each card as this again eats up Tv time which could be used to get the next number 1 contender over and upper level talents having rivalries and feuds in between…
Not every match in the show has to be this 20+ minute athletic spectacle, save most of those for the PPV’s, example you have a top level guy in AEW going 15 minutes with a tag team guy or a jobber nobody wants to see, which devalues your top guys, squash matches work and realistically not everyone can be in the top 10 guys, when every throwaway match is going 15 minutes plus it also wars away at Tv time, here’s an example if it takes John Moxley 15 minutes or more to beat John Silver of the Dark Order, that’s not doing Mox any good, in fact it’s making him look weaker than he should be. Imagine if Bill Goldberg at the height of WCW had 15+ minute matches with every jobber he faced on that streak… he wouldn’t have been the star he became in the end and wouldn’t have been half as over as he was at that time, Goldberg got over because he hit hard, hit fast and crushed everyone that was out in front of him…
Tv time is money, it’s a limited commodity, by all means have a competitive match every week but save that for the main event and hype that match up throughout the show. I agree with Eric on the necessity of a formulaic plan for every week as it’s an episodic Tv show, plan your run sheet and sometimes leave a cliffhanger… remember that Smackdown cliffhanger when Brock did the SuperPlex to Show and the ring collapsed?… the show ended there but boy was I looking forward to next week to see where they went with this. The same with Nitro if you had a huge betrayal where a guy turned on his best friend and joined the NWO I’d be eagerly waiting for the following week to hear why he did it?… it was an episodic cliffhanger and it worked to keep me invested in the show…
You’ve got limited people left in the business from years gone by that aren’t in WWE, Eric and JC have offered to give so much advice to TK and it’s not from a negative place but from a place of wanting to help to see another company reach that next level…
There's a profound reason behind Vince McMahon's success with WWF/WWE from the Attitide Era to the Ruthless Aggression, through the Reality Era. The same top stars rotated the main title, meantime writer's kept bringing the juice with great stories from spectacular writers. Upon the dawn of a new age, then came a new era in that company alonv with the passing of the top torches to the upcoming top stars. Keep the recipe the same, the formula top notch, and the operation simple what you've got is longevity. You never compete with the top dog, you study and learn from them.
I love a match with 87 false finishes. Guys doing shooting star backflip crossbody suicide dives is amazing
The hell does Meltzer got to insult AEW with its shortcomings, he's the one literally telling them what to do whenever he posts booking
Eric needs to tell us. How he really feels about Dave Meltzer.
I miss the wcw formula .where they do different matches like lucha, hoss, technical and main event. 2nd all the guys look the same its long hair beard and black trunks 3 they all want to be the rock or stone cold,theres no hhh or shawn or benot. 4 theres no pay off at the end.
*WWE doesn't use people on TV*
Vince is wasting talent!
*AEW doesn't use people on TV*
So what?
5:08 How come you never did that, Eric? Oh wait, you did it ONCE with Hogan vs. Sting ... and then you screwed their encounter up.
Tbf, Hogan had creative control in his contract and that really screwed things up. Hogan was notorious for doing screwy finishes to protect himself.
@@jbellflower83 Eric said he had no creative control and that his opinion and ideas just had so much weight, because he is Hoe Cogan.
to me I might be wrong. But say you only have a 10 person roster so everyone gets put over, Their is no competition for those places. You have more people so their is competition for everyone to be 1 of the ten top guys. The wrestlers just have to go out their and prove they should be a top 10 guy.
In the last year I've come to REALLY enjoy hearing Bischoffs perspective. Often times he'll say things I've been saying for years. Other times he'll say things that I hadn't considered, but fully agree with. It seems to be very rare for me to just disagree with Bischoff.
In this case he's saying things that I've been saying for literal years. AEW has had for a long time, an overabundance of amazinf talent to make small talk at catering. Ethan Page is a great example. The guy can do comedy, serious drama, love stories, in addition to being a great in-ring worker. I've followed him since 2013. When he signed with AEW I figured it was a breakout role for him. Instead, he's been mostly ignored.
I hate to saw that AEW should "trim the fat", because in this case, it's not fat. It's just bloat. Amazing wrestlers who never see the lense of camera doesn't do anybody any good.
Meanwhile, Dynamite a few weeks ago featured CMLL and AAA guys, along with New Japan guys. Wrestlers I'd never heard of, and had no idea why I should care. And the problem is, the next week they were gone. You're supposed to do that when your roster is spread thin, and you need to fill time.
You want to put over stars? Where's Danhausen?" Where's Miro? Where's Pillman Jr? Wheres Ethan Page? I'm SHOCKED they're doing good things with Ricky Starks, because he's the type of guy to be on these lists. Full of talent, so I would have expected TK to ignore him in favor of "Masked Wrestler who won't be seen again #54963"
I've LOVED Tony Storm's rise. But I wish Jon Moxley had a bigger role. At this oint the BCC is holding everybody involved back.
Hook should be just ripping everybodies asses.
Serve vs Hangman may actually be the only story you've told on AEW this year. Everything else is "Here's a bunch of random shit from talented workers that won't matter next week."
And it makes me lose interest in the show. I WANT to like AEW. I even want to like ROH. But it's hard when TK says "That was the best Dynamite we've ever done" after putting on a show that I said "Was a miss." TK doesn't see or believe the problems, which means they can't be fixed, because he doesn't think they're problems.
AEW is drowning the show with MJF because that is all they have to keep the audience from tuning out. The problem is they are taking away everything special about MJF which will kill the audiences love of MJF.
There is 100% such a thing called Too Much TV time! Especially when you make stupid moves like what AEW is doing with MJF.
Eric is so on point with so much that he explains
I liked aew but fell off from watching when every other match is a 10 man tag. It was obvious then they would do this as a lazy way to give who they can TV time. I can’t imagine what it’s like now lol
Really grown to like Bishoff.
I think the greatest example of a gimmick that should have never worked but got over massively is the Undertaker. An "undead" wrestler that can't be hurt? That works, maybe, a year or two. But, as history has shown, you get a guy doing the gimmick who lives it, who breathes it, who believes in it and who also evolves it, and it can last thirty years.
Aews core has to be mjf, Christian, darby allin, edge, Samoa joe, kenny omega, chris Jericho, john moxley, bryan Danielson, jay white and adam cole, with Will Osprey rumored to be next
So crowded
Yeah❤ they need to analyze where there money is at! They can be a merch company!!, Pay per view, and cut back on some of the talent and refocus on the basics or start doing live events so they can figure out who they are
It’s such a tough balancing act…. injuries…. new signings always garner some sort of attention. When a company gets bigger wanting more content you need more folks…. It’s a really tough balancing act.
It’s why the jobber and the manager role is drastically underutilized today
Khan saying he's not going to make the mistakes Eric did... when he didn't even get close to making the success that Eric did. Their biggest success is basically Wembley stadium which is a unique set of circumstances of AEW never being in the UK before, Wembley not having a wrestling show since SummerSlam 92 and fans travelling from all over Europe to go there. Put Dynamite, Rampage and Collision here every week and the sell outs would soon dry up. WCW would have sold out Wembley too if Eric had ran a show there.
Meltzer finally realizing a promotion ran the way he wants it ran just doesn’t work lol
Look at wwe they have one of th3 best storylines ever going on in th3 bloodline and its drawing. Eric is right about storylines
Charisma is the true it factor imo. Look at Hogan sure his matches weren’t always great but you always cared become of how charismatic he was.
It's okay to have a "filler" match here and there. But that should be the minority. The vast majority of segments on a show should be storylines at various levels of heat and pacing, up and down the card. And no "filler" whatsoever on a ppv...
the "Be Ready" apply to everthing.
AEW needs a basic blueprint. Who are the 2 or 3 guys fighting for the heavyweight title? What two tag teams are fighting for the Tag team tiles? Who are the 2 to 4 women going for the women's title? Those are the top talent and the rest is filler. You discover mid card or jobbers that connect with the crowd and you build them and see if they become top talent.
They have a lot of people employed , not too many are talented however . Management and writers included .
I just think AEW has WAY too much unimportant/unimpressive people on the roster and just as damaging they have some of those people being constantly pushed. They are pushed just because some internet marks think they have a “great work rate” or because Tony likes dressing up as them for Halloween, so that must mean everyone else loves them too. People need to accept that AEW is a vanity project for the son of a Billionaire to play out his fantasies of being a mix between Eric Bischoff and Vince McMahon. Even after years of having this company, it still feels, looks, and operates like a knock off promotion ran by inexperienced people. Nonsensical or non existent storytelling. Matches made only because some hardcore fans will call it a dream match. Certain Talent thinking they are a modern day mixture of Mick Foley and Stone Cold just because they constantly bleed and give the camera and audience the finger. Other talent thinking if they dive off of things through tables etc or do constant acrobatic high spots, it means they are like The Hardy brothers or Rey Mysterio in their primes. That’s AEW.
Hey Conrad, don't just repeat what the star of the show says and act like it is your idea. You ended the show with a run-on nonesense speech that Eric just said. If you are not going to add something new, just start a new topic.
AEW is a case of the brain is dead but the body doesn't know it yet. Tony Khan could have had Feud of the decade with MJF vs Mark Brisco after Jay's passing. and Tony decided The pale Orange in jeans and sunglasses was more important to his TV. THAT alone showed me Tony's AEW is dead and waiting for someone to pull the plug. And don't even get me started on picking The Boung Yucks over the biggest star his company will ever know.
Id take a less bloated roster for storylines that are actually compelling.
Eric feels the same way towards Meltzer as Cornette does towards Russo. They just don’t fkn like em and wouldn’t piss on em if they were on fire 😂
So it’s only a problem for aew, but wwe who has more wrestlers is fine. Truth is aew is still trying to figure out who they want to fill spots, some are filled but most aren’t. Think 1996-97 wwf. For context, wwe has people signed who you have not even seen on tv yet. A valid criticism is that aew has too many wrestlers who simply just aren’t living up to expectations, wwe would have let most of these go.
WWE is doing the samething I made a tweet back in later 2020 telling Triple H and Vince just pick 15 guys and have those 15 guys destroy the rest of the roster so you can make stars again stop this 50/50 stuff
@@juniorn8279 they still have a bunch of guys like Karion Kross who they have absolutely no idea what to do with, but enough guys are over and on top to draw.
@@NATENIGHT23 no they don’t. I actually would suggest you have to be a complete mark to complain about the company you don’t like as much having a “bloated” roster. It’s a completely ridiculous complaint to make. Especially when a lot of these wrestlers are just enhancement talent paid per appearance.
Tony need to put a rocket on Ricky starks him and mjf could be mega stars in aew
If we had a legit vote by all the top wrestling journalists and personalities, and not just Meltzer, there is no way Tony Khan would be anywhere near booker of the year any time soon, maybe one day, but not right now and not last year, lol.
The more people the less focus you can give them. And thus, too many causes that AEW problem to make time for so many people they create factions. Useless, boring and pointless factions.
same for the women of aew and wwe too.
Ah yes, the classic typo in the headline
There’s no real story telling in AEW that’s the thing there’s a few here and there one thing I’d like to see now is who attacked Mercedes ??? And I like how they turned Stat on Willow they’ll have a nice little feud but what happens next with them after their feud ??
I can't believe everybody is just noticing this how the purchase randomized guys on TV for no reason I mean they've been doing this since CM Punk was in the company before he came in and they've been doing this putting random people on TV for no reason yeah most of these guys and girls our nameless because come on who's going to know a guy from Japan or a guy from Mexico nobody not everybody is a die-hard fan
I think they're doing great. I LOVE the way they're destroying MJFs lifelong heel work. Bring in more people so we can forget about em.
I’ve watched Drew go from jobber crew to champ. Liv go from pink hair girl to legit underdog babyface. U never know when winds will change… Be Ready.
The truth is that most of these guys and girls have never been on TV so they don't know how it works not only that most of these guys that they got their new guys and girls that know the original for a long time so they don't know what they're they are still learning and learning how to do stuff
Most new talent have terrible mic skills. You also need to give mid card ppl a decent storyline to work with
If it's a dream match, both guys are over.
2:42 to ask a question! If that guy exercised half as much as he talks, he'd be skinny.
They'll start releasing AEW guys to make way for WWE releases.
Tony Khan is frustrating. I've followed AEW from day one and there are wrestlers I can't even name because they are so generic. I'm talking about wrestlers that have been there from the beginning.
The mission: Give Eric a softball quote of Meltz praising WWE and agreeing with Eric. Can Eric agree with his own opinion without spiraling into an anti-Dave rant.
The result: Eric fails. The disdain is real, and often hilariously entertaining. 😂
AEW should totally bring in Meltzer as their on screen GM, that would put butts in seats, lol.
Nope. Just put on good matches
The irony is that WCW had a lot of talent too.
Every wrestler Rises as his or her own pace and when it's time the company is supposed to realize that and really get behind that wrestler Not to the Bianca, Charlotte, Roman or John Cena level where the company is so behind their SuperPush that it actually hurts their Character even if they are Over cause people just get sick of them being pushed down their throats winning Constantly.
Then you have guys that have Momentum but are Not Ready that the Wrestling Companies Love to go "They are getting a Reaction, Push Them!" And they are more of a slow Build Wrestler that needs to fail and succeed at their own pace and if pushed Too Hard or Not hard enough could potentially ruin what little Momentum they have.
Take Jack Swagger for instance, He came in as a Bully Character and was given a pretty good Push in ECW, and he eventually beat Christian for the ECW World Title but then then they ruined him by Not only taking him off ECW too soon but also giving him a Succeed or Die MitB and Eventual World Title Run that NOBODY thought he was Ready for at the time.
Then WWE blame Jack Swagger for Failing when it was actually their Failure that pushed him too Soon before he was Ready.
Now he wasn't the wrong guy, it was just too Soon, I know this cause when he was Ready and they didn't Push him it hurt his Momentum that they could have Capitalized on when he was doing the whole"We The People" gimmick with Zeb Colter after a slight Character Tweek which made him Better more well rounded of a character.
Was he The Rock or Austin No! But then again Nobody is.
Jack should have had a Good Dominant Run in ECW winning the Belt atleast Twice in two years then put on whatever show had the US Title and gave him the Foreign Heel Run where he wins as a Heel then takes the Belt to WrestleMania and Loses in Grand Fashion to sone really Over BabyFace Character then let him do his thing for about a year maybe getting another US Title or Tag Team but shorter Reign and then when he has a couple of Accolades under his Belt then you put him with Colter and Not Right away but let his Momentum Build and when the Arena's ate chanting "We The People" in Unison every Night then you strike and give him the MitB or just have him beat a World Champion in a Big Storyline and that's when he was Ready to be Champion.
WWE are making a similar Mistake with Bron Breaker Right Now, he should have the US Title instead of Logan Paul it would have worked but the WWE are Stalemating him in NXT even know the best time to move him to the Main Roster was after his Heel turn.
Eric should had been their boss instead of friend.
Love the thumbnail
There’s no 2 better people to speak about wrestling and the logistics of it,
More than Eric and Bruce Prichard. Hands down. Only person better, would be Vince.
Charisma #1 thats why hogan never had to backflip on glass.
Same can be said about dating. The top 10% of men are gonna get 90% of the women.
Bishoff taught Vince a lesson by stealing all of WWFs top guys. It gave Vince a chance to create new stars.
Signing guys is “stealing”?