Counterpoint: every SaaS to date is just an excel spreadsheet with a pretty Frontend and every billion dollar social platform is a normalized, sorted and formatted list with side effects.
to anybody who doesnt think hes right imagine this. its the future. if you want a cool app to , idfk, scan your fridge for recipes, you simply open chat gpt, ask it to make the app for you, and within a couple seconds you get the fully functional app connected and ready for you to use. obviously were not really close to that now but you get the point - thats where were headed clearly applications that exclusively provide utility as software and dont really involve the real world are going to become worth a lot less. and as for ai wrappers specifically a lot of them are just really dumb and useless already. why would anyone pay you MONTHLY to scan the food in your fridge and give them recipes when they can pay open ai for a subscription, and not only solve that problem but get much much more? you guys need to think from the perspective of a neutral consumer. you need to really distancce yourself from whatever it is youre building and honestly ask yourself "would i buy this: and not only from the perspective of a consumer, but from the perspective of an investor or buyer. would you buy your ai saas gpt wrapper bullshit? do you think it has long term sustainability?
This. Exactly what I have been thinking lately. People need an app that actually solves real world problems of people. You need to choose a target audience and think of what common issues they face. That's were you find the value in your product
ChatGPT writes code mainly in Python. Even in C++ or Java they need to be compiled. So your phone will need a way to compile or run the code, but that's not built in.
@@Badadodadoop IMO yc has also fallen far from grace by moving away from carefully selected investments in businesses serving uncharted waters. Now they’re throwing spaghetti at the wall with a lot of the startups in their new classes. It’s wild they would call marketplaces, a model applicable for infinite number of applications, a tarpit when one of their biggest dogs Airbnb crushed it and paved the way for other huge marketplaces. Purely software businesses are big and mean revenue generators but there are just some things you cannot do on a server. Gathering users to fulfill actions or orders on your marketplace is something you can’t develop, it requires real marketing efforts, but this moat of effort provides some opportunity for those willing to identity their market and take a shot
@@AlainProcs Yes, but YC doesn’t decide what models succeed and fail. And it’s not a requirement to success that you earn a YC check. Specifically catering what you’re building to increase your odds of getting into a class does more harm than good to most founders chasing hype
@@ridiculousmarketplaces i’ve never say they get to decide the winners, I’m not an absolutist. But I do understand chances. I personally don’t like the whole VC game, but not everyone is me in the world. I don’t think they have fallen of their grace for most founders wether you consider that a positive or negative. Reality is, there are market trends and AI is just one of them, you don’t have to like it.
User doesn’t care about the how or what, they care about getting real value. Here’s my take: right now there’s a huge gap of opportunities merging AI with Saas enjoy it, don’t do that like you’re doing the next Instagram or Airbnb, eventually your app could die. But until that, solve people problems, generate value, get money and do it again or sit and watch other do it.
yea you can make money but only few of them actaully generate value... just like how shein or temu acts as if they generate real value but in the long term just messes with the user and environment
I enjoyed this video format, hopefully you are the next Fireship. Also enjoyed some criticisms on AI wrappers. I was about to invite you for my startup discord, but then I see that you are an agency. Have a good day.
@0:42 - You'd be surprised. Just got out of an 8½ year relationship that'd mainly lasted on that skill. Wish I figured out that she was a clown much earlier, though. So it goes...
This is exactly what I was concerned about. Ever since the debut of ChatGPT, I’ve felt that my ideas are gradually losing their value as GPT continues to evolve into better versions of itself. I didn’t want to create just another AI wrapper. While the idea of a marketplace might seem overused, it’s actually promising because it’s one of the few areas where AI isn’t easy to replace.
I disagree overall. I get your point but shitting on AI wrapers in general is unprofitable for people. I just accept this is the new train hype and adapt. You don’t really need to create anything new whatsoever, you just need to market it well which is the real tricky part for all these companies. There IS value in analyzing because many people just won’t by themselves. There’s also (and clearly) lots of value in a pretty interface because of UX. In a digital world people appreciate how you handle the the digital experience. Notice how I did not provided any sources of what I’m saying, just as you didn’t.
Damn dude, you just cut through the complete over hyped BS of the ENTIRE space in 3 minutes.... LOL --- Keep the videos coming. I have looked at countless supposed "Courses" from these clowns who are putting out crap about their "How to create a saas" BS. I would join your course if you had one in a heartbeat. HONESTY IS EVERYTHING, most people are learning automatically not to trust all of the crappy fake content that is out there on How To AI.... Your a needle in a haystack. Congrats! You are currently in a very unique position. Keep up the amazing content like this.
essentially, if the future is one in which i can create any application that i want to use ever with a simple prompt, the focus needs to shift away from software only and try to focus on real world makes sense.
I think most people are overlooking the fact that AI has lowered the barrier of entry for a lot of “boring” non-saas services; which aren’t in any way AI related. All you need is just a little edge over other players in the market. But that’s a lot less sexy than SaaS.
@@ridiculousmarketplaces maybe it’s not but i am working on it making it useful it’s just a start for me and by starting it i am getting daily new ideas and feedbacks maybe one day something will be useful.
I dislike "AI" word so baaaad, and even worse when people make "How I made my SaaS" video and then 5 seconds in they are talking about AI, I'm so upset about all this hype, it seems people are brain rotted about this.
Waiting for openAI jack up their API prices so it bursts all these bubbles, also these AI UI's are getting out of hand - boring as fuck and look like they're made by a 10 year old please stop making them people thanks.
That would never ever happen since it has to compete with much cheaper APIs. They would simply lose a lot of money I’ve never thought I’d witness someone wishing a bubble burst with no clear gain, but I guess there are big haters out there.
@ Because 99% of applications nowadays are just AI wrappers with UI library components and even now trashy AI made components. They have 0 creativity and everyone is just spitting them out as fast as they can just to earn a quick $$$.
Good data in good data out. Someone's expertise of 30 years is valuable, their outputs would be superior when they have trained their RAG system for their LLM, output, that'll be a quote, unquote, third ball As a digital marketer that loves AI, creating a marketplace, it's usually a terrible idea.
I've seen pretty awesome AI tools no doubt. But you're talking someone with 30 years of experience having a go at it, I'm talking about someone interested in the space currently on their first attempts. And other than expediting a workflow like a macro or script, I still don't see how AI creates any other kind of value unless it intakes data the end user doesn't have on hand. My successful marketplace #2 had B2B customers come in, use the product, and never leave. They basically sent me love letters. In order for a competitor to come in and steal their attention, they'd first have to surpass my userbase in quantity and ability to utilize it.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 everyone thinks their a dev these days, you only can bs ur way a limited amount of times before it catches up! The experience in developing a product plays a big role in app and even SaaS products
That's actually great business model I can see here. Build a free entetraining channel about how're marketplaces the best possible business model and offer a paid service to build such 😂 Everything's business... you don't care about marketplaces at all, you just want to sell your service 😁 And there's nothing wrong with that, it has always been like that - sellers needed demand for their products, so why not just create the demand by telling this is the best business model!
U dont know what ur talking about 😂 saas business making millions i use most ai products that u can imagine and with some knowledge about the market and the best free api's to use and combine that with some python scripts BOOM! automation my advice to anybody trying to use ai DONT JUST USE IT MAKE IT AUTOMATED and btw only kids use (make) Ur best option is install Olama train there smallest model on a project that ur working on feed it all the api's documentation and thats it u got full agent to make scripts for u to work with these api's for automation
The video is about making SaaS products that are valuable. Whatever you generate with a few billion parameter model is not gonna be valuable. Anyone could generate it. The only way you are gonna make money off slop like that is by winning the market with advertising. Besides, you don't really need local RAG or a finetuned model to generate Python scripts. If the documentation for your dependencies is public, just use chatgpt or another llm.
Counterpoint: every SaaS to date is just an excel spreadsheet with a pretty Frontend and every billion dollar social platform is a normalized, sorted and formatted list with side effects.
haha yeah, every app is a crud app.
+1 you can basically create any app with a spreadsheet
😂
SaaS: A database with buttons.
Social platform: A glorified list of posts.
Restated: a pretty frontend is extremely valuable to people.
Finally, someone who shits on AI wrappers with enthusiasm! My man.
i second that
@@xXWillyxWonkaXxi third that
to anybody who doesnt think hes right imagine this.
its the future. if you want a cool app to , idfk, scan your fridge for recipes, you simply open chat gpt, ask it to make the app for you, and within a couple seconds you get the fully functional app connected and ready for you to use.
obviously were not really close to that now but you get the point - thats where were headed
clearly applications that exclusively provide utility as software and dont really involve the real world are going to become worth a lot less.
and as for ai wrappers specifically a lot of them are just really dumb and useless already. why would anyone pay you MONTHLY to scan the food in your fridge and give them recipes when they can pay open ai for a subscription, and not only solve that problem but get much much more?
you guys need to think from the perspective of a neutral consumer. you need to really distancce yourself from whatever it is youre building and honestly ask yourself "would i buy this:
and not only from the perspective of a consumer, but from the perspective of an investor or buyer. would you buy your ai saas gpt wrapper bullshit? do you think it has long term sustainability?
This. Exactly what I have been thinking lately. People need an app that actually solves real world problems of people. You need to choose a target audience and think of what common issues they face. That's were you find the value in your product
if you have 2000 USD for chatgpt subscription
ChatGPT writes code mainly in Python. Even in C++ or Java they need to be compiled. So your phone will need a way to compile or run the code, but that's not built in.
true
Everybody is sleeping on this channel. Literally gold mine.
wow a market place, so revolutionary...
wow a chatgpt wrapper…you should apply to YC
@@ridiculousmarketplaces I know you know but most AI verticals on YC are wrappers trololooolol
Just curious, whats a wrapper?
Like lil peep or drake
what does an ai generated condom come in?
SaaS: A database with buttons.
Social platform: A glorified list of posts.
very nice viewpoint. Value is real, and needs to be delivered
Building a marketplace is also something you most probably, really shouldn't do. It's considered a 'tarpit' idea by Y combinator.
@@Badadodadoop IMO yc has also fallen far from grace by moving away from carefully selected investments in businesses serving uncharted waters. Now they’re throwing spaghetti at the wall with a lot of the startups in their new classes. It’s wild they would call marketplaces, a model applicable for infinite number of applications, a tarpit when one of their biggest dogs Airbnb crushed it and paved the way for other huge marketplaces.
Purely software businesses are big and mean revenue generators but there are just some things you cannot do on a server. Gathering users to fulfill actions or orders on your marketplace is something you can’t develop, it requires real marketing efforts, but this moat of effort provides some opportunity for those willing to identity their market and take a shot
@@ridiculousmarketplacesit really doesn’t matter what we think as long as they’re the ones holding and giving away the money.
@@AlainProcs Yes, but YC doesn’t decide what models succeed and fail. And it’s not a requirement to success that you earn a YC check. Specifically catering what you’re building to increase your odds of getting into a class does more harm than good to most founders chasing hype
@@ridiculousmarketplaces i’ve never say they get to decide the winners, I’m not an absolutist. But I do understand chances. I personally don’t like the whole VC game, but not everyone is me in the world.
I don’t think they have fallen of their grace for most founders wether you consider that a positive or negative. Reality is, there are market trends and AI is just one of them, you don’t have to like it.
The thing is that the more ai evolve, the small is the gap between who codes and who doesn't. The time to make money is now
User doesn’t care about the how or what, they care about getting real value. Here’s my take: right now there’s a huge gap of opportunities merging AI with Saas enjoy it, don’t do that like you’re doing the next Instagram or Airbnb, eventually your app could die. But until that, solve people problems, generate value, get money and do it again or sit and watch other do it.
yea you can make money but only few of them actaully generate value... just like how shein or temu acts as if they generate real value but in the long term just messes with the user and environment
Your thumbnail helped you bro. This got you this video in the recommend spot. Keep that approach to get this kind of results 🎉
I enjoyed this video format, hopefully you are the next Fireship. Also enjoyed some criticisms on AI wrappers. I was about to invite you for my startup discord, but then I see that you are an agency. Have a good day.
@0:42 - You'd be surprised.
Just got out of an 8½ year relationship that'd mainly lasted on that skill.
Wish I figured out that she was a clown much earlier, though. So it goes...
I said it will be an AI SaaS bubble and there you go!
Not a bubble unless it bursts. It didn’t burst at all yet.
SaaS is dead (Sofware as a Service). Long live SaaS (Service as a Software).
Hey, elaborate plz
I personally juggle 2 balls all the time.
also all these ai wrappers will be consolidated by big players once the market matures
This is exactly what I was concerned about. Ever since the debut of ChatGPT, I’ve felt that my ideas are gradually losing their value as GPT continues to evolve into better versions of itself. I didn’t want to create just another AI wrapper. While the idea of a marketplace might seem overused, it’s actually promising because it’s one of the few areas where AI isn’t easy to replace.
yo why this vedio so underrated
In what way is it underrated?
I disagree overall. I get your point but shitting on AI wrapers in general is unprofitable for people. I just accept this is the new train hype and adapt. You don’t really need to create anything new whatsoever, you just need to market it well which is the real tricky part for all these companies.
There IS value in analyzing because many people just won’t by themselves.
There’s also (and clearly) lots of value in a pretty interface because of UX. In a digital world people appreciate how you handle the the digital experience.
Notice how I did not provided any sources of what I’m saying, just as you didn’t.
Damn dude, you just cut through the complete over hyped BS of the ENTIRE space in 3 minutes.... LOL --- Keep the videos coming. I have looked at countless supposed "Courses" from these clowns who are putting out crap about their "How to create a saas" BS. I would join your course if you had one in a heartbeat. HONESTY IS EVERYTHING, most people are learning automatically not to trust all of the crappy fake content that is out there on How To AI.... Your a needle in a haystack. Congrats! You are currently in a very unique position. Keep up the amazing content like this.
But but ai gonna replace even expert developer!😅
Thanks for putting what I was thinking for months already out in the world.
tl;dw build walled garden where you don't build anything using affiliate program/marketing to capture value.
As people who build AI products, we feel the same way 😀
I know this is a new channel, but keep up the good work.
essentially, if the future is one in which i can create any application that i want to use ever with a simple prompt, the focus needs to shift away from software only and try to focus on real world
makes sense.
I think most people are overlooking the fact that AI has lowered the barrier of entry for a lot of “boring” non-saas services; which aren’t in any way AI related. All you need is just a little edge over other players in the market. But that’s a lot less sexy than SaaS.
The internet is asking you to be the face for this idea and build a following with pushing out more content.
all software is fancy CRUD with egos
and yet it makes trillions.
respect the hustle.
Integrate vector db / Langchain to your solution to add value
@@JMCV2 nah bruh 😂
So to promote your product and market yourself as a very knowledgeable person you will say someone a clown and their product is useless
Come again?
@ you screen recorded my app without permission and told it useless that’s what i am saying.
@@ridiculousmarketplaces maybe it’s not but i am working on it making it useful it’s just a start for me and by starting it i am getting daily new ideas and feedbacks maybe one day something will be useful.
Small world innit? Best of luck!
@@ridiculousmarketplaces Oh snap!!! 😂
Interesting take!
Me watching thinking I's have an ahhh moment only to realise he isn't talking to me. I find this useful in knowing how not to build
I dislike "AI" word so baaaad, and even worse when people make "How I made my SaaS" video and then 5 seconds in they are talking about AI, I'm so upset about all this hype, it seems people are brain rotted about this.
Good thumbnail
Every 'SAAS UA-camr' recycles each other's content, too
Where can we join you?
But they are earning what else do you want?
good shit
Waiting for openAI jack up their API prices so it bursts all these bubbles, also these AI UI's are getting out of hand - boring as fuck and look like they're made by a 10 year old please stop making them people thanks.
True, most are shit
kinda yes...but there are alternatives and open source models
That would never ever happen since it has to compete with much cheaper APIs. They would simply lose a lot of money
I’ve never thought I’d witness someone wishing a bubble burst with no clear gain, but I guess there are big haters out there.
@ Because 99% of applications nowadays are just AI wrappers with UI library components and even now trashy AI made components. They have 0 creativity and everyone is just spitting them out as fast as they can just to earn a quick $$$.
Good data in good data out. Someone's expertise of 30 years is valuable, their outputs would be superior when they have trained their RAG system for their LLM, output, that'll be a quote, unquote, third ball
As a digital marketer that loves AI, creating a marketplace, it's usually a terrible idea.
I've seen pretty awesome AI tools no doubt. But you're talking someone with 30 years of experience having a go at it, I'm talking about someone interested in the space currently on their first attempts.
And other than expediting a workflow like a macro or script, I still don't see how AI creates any other kind of value unless it intakes data the end user doesn't have on hand.
My successful marketplace #2 had B2B customers come in, use the product, and never leave. They basically sent me love letters. In order for a competitor to come in and steal their attention, they'd first have to surpass my userbase in quantity and ability to utilize it.
What will be your advice for us new bees
when u creating discord server brooo
i'm not sure of his point. create data that does not exist? huh?
Why use bubble though instead of something like opensaas wasp?
True
😂😂😂😂😂😂 everyone thinks their a dev these days, you only can bs ur way a limited amount of times before it catches up! The experience in developing a product plays a big role in app and even SaaS products
I love u bro! too much shits ai wrapper arround
That's actually great business model I can see here. Build a free entetraining channel about how're marketplaces the best possible business model and offer a paid service to build such 😂 Everything's business... you don't care about marketplaces at all, you just want to sell your service 😁 And there's nothing wrong with that, it has always been like that - sellers needed demand for their products, so why not just create the demand by telling this is the best business model!
Nah, I do truly care about marketplaces, it’s basically the only model I utilize. And it’s a great shot at success for new builders.
@@ridiculousmarketplaces That's also true, for sure better thatn AI wrappers
U dont know what ur talking about 😂 saas business making millions i use most ai products that u can imagine and with some knowledge about the market and the best free api's to use and combine that with some python scripts BOOM! automation
my advice to anybody trying to use ai
DONT JUST USE IT
MAKE IT AUTOMATED
and btw only kids use (make)
Ur best option is install Olama train there smallest model on a project that ur working on feed it all the api's documentation and thats it u got full agent to make scripts for u to work with these api's for automation
The video is about making SaaS products that are valuable. Whatever you generate with a few billion parameter model is not gonna be valuable. Anyone could generate it.
The only way you are gonna make money off slop like that is by winning the market with advertising. Besides, you don't really need local RAG or a finetuned model to generate Python scripts. If the documentation for your dependencies is public, just use chatgpt or another llm.
Bro so am i safe from ai replace software developers?
No. Give up and stop asking dumb questions.