Love the review! I'm a computer engineer, I bought it for: 1) Tall aspect ratio to see more code and documents 2) 1080p webcams and dual mics are a must in 2020. 720p shitcams on most laptops don't allow me to show my circuits and diagrams to my coworkers. Main reason why the Dell XPS and others were struck out. 3) Pen input for notes and drawings. 4) No bloat whatsoever 5) Up to twice as much battery compared to Surface Pro 6) Awesome keyboard 7) Tablet mode for personal media use, on a bed or the train to work. The only things I do not like are the bezels and the speakers.
@@teachervictor7645 I don't do video editing but it should do just fine; it has a fast NVME SSD, LPDDR4 RAM and 10th gen CPU. The variant with the i7 should be the best option for video editing. Pair with a Surface Dial or Pen for some smooth timeline scrolling. That said, if you only do video editing maybe the Book 3 is not the best option?
Victor Chiang someone’s review did 6k video footage and it was fine. Just remember instead of paying for great specs you are paying for the form factor. If you will use it and don’t mind windows do not hesitate twice about it. Pulse get a good warranty just in case.
I just got mine the SB3 1T 15” 32GB version it get supper hot for even minor tasks which is not cool literally. I hope it will adapt and work without getting hot all the time. I like it over all, design could have been refreshed but hey they don’t care about what ppl want I guess.
I feel like complaints about a three year old design would carry more weight if it didn’t come from someone who owns a MacBook Pro. Apple usually keeps the design for 4 Years before slapping in apple the successful force touch trackpad, unwanted Touch Bar, forcing thunderbolt down our throats or breaking the keyboard for generations. Change isn’t always good. Refining a unique product is also a valid path. I agree that the Surface Book 3 isn’t a Macbook. Because it’s not trying to be one. It’s also not a gaming laptop. It’s a 2 in 1 with pen support, a powerful graphics card, great battery life and a good keyboard. I’ve seen the surface book get a lot of love from engineers, 3d artists, programmers and data scientists. They use the touch screen to make notes and write math/physics equations with specialized symbols, for them WSL 2’s GPU support is a dream come through for Machine Learning/Deep Learning as they won’t have to dual boot Linux anymore, it’s also powerful enough for their 3d models, it has both usb-a and usb-c which convenient for college students and people who live in the real world. A reliable keyboard for hours of coding or writing papers. Having the option to write with the pen if you get tired of typing. The list goes on.
I'm a researcher who needs these things: 1) portability 2) a good processor for math programs 3)flexibility for a lot of reading + touch screen 4)a pen for taking notes 5)web browsing with multi-tabs open 6)good webcam for online meetings and classes 7)beautiful design and fancy look in conferences 8)most adaptability with windows10 pro and all its options. Do you know any other device better than SB3? :)
I'm looking for the same thing. I do research myself and would like to know if this can handle multiple tabs open, SPSS, occasional drawing using the pen when I am not home, and multiple documents open.
I’m a software engineer so I got one because of the awesome keyboard (which I love), screen aspect ratio, and gpu computing for AI/Machine Learning stuff. I really like the convertible design as I also like to a draw vector art and love playing with sketchable. I use a lot of that for making PowerPoint presentations more interesting. The angle of the screen when you flip it around for drawing is very comfortable. So overall, the many aspects I get out of this one device makes for a nice compact design. This a smartphone, and a good pair of headphones are all the tech I need to do all the work and play things I want to do. So it really appeals to my minimalist mentality of reducing stuff and distractions. I can say I really am very happy with the purchase.
Neko Maru I bought the 13inch, 512GB, 32GB RAM model. Storage is plenty because I archive stuff tp the cloud. 32GB of RAM is excellent for Docker container machines. The 13inch is small and portable. I’m very happy so far.
I've owned a Surface Book 2 since that version came out, over three years now. It's been and continues to be the absolute best laptop I've ever owned. Co-workers with comparable Dell XPS and Macbook's have all had hardware issues with batteries, keyboards, and general reliability issues. But my Surface Book keeps going 100%. I travel a lot with it and it's seen many many planes and car road trips for work. I've dropped it twice from standing height and nothing happened to it. Luggage was dropped on it also which dented the cover side of the screen, but aside from the dent in the metal case, nothing happened to the internals. It feels premium against any competitor. Reviewers complaining that the outside is unchanged, what needs to be changed? It's still nicer in appearance than anything else out there (aside from Apple laptops if you like those) and it's build quality is as good or better than anything else. And those who complain about the gap when it's closed, it has no affect on anything. So what? I never get stuff stuck in it because of this and I jam all sorts of things in my laptop bag when I travel. The only reason I'm not buying the Surface Book 3 is because there is nothing wrong with my SB 2. If you want a premium Windows laptop this is the one to buy. Don't even consider other "premium" laptops. It the difference between buying a Mercedes or a Buick.
Exactly. It is legit the selling point for a lot of people, like me who is a digital artist so I definitely like thte idea of not having to lug around a seperate tablet with me that can't even run illustrator
hey could you tell me if u feel the need for an iPad if u got this? I'm thinking of buying the SB3 instead of both a premium ultrabook and an iPad. Is the tablet mode actually useful or is it just a gimmick?
Basically, this is all the use cases you described which are niche. A pure PC gamer that never do something else, and does not care about a better screen ratio for productivity, a productive guy who never need to sign or annotate anything, a PC user that does not need or want a tablet ( I would say that probably 95% of western world household have a tablet), or a photo editor / designer that would not benefit from a pen for masking or fine selection... All kind of usage benefit from a mix of input method, mix of form factor and bettet screen ratio than 16:9 just good for movies. This is where this device excels. It does all. Maybe not better that very niche tasks compared to very niche hardware but for most of the task it does it as well or even better than others where you face irremedialy one constraint or the other
Umm excuse my but what type of photo editor would not benefit from a drawing tablet and a good pen? There is no such thing as just a photo editor, that kinda of stuff falls under general graphic design, which definitely makes use of a good pen
Slight correction on the ports, Microsoft store lists the USB C officially as being: 2 x USB-A (version 3.1 Gen 2) 1 x USB-C® (version 3.1 Gen 2 with USB Power Delivery revision 3.0) Gen 2 provides 10 Gbit/s, doubling the Surface Book 2 speed.
I'm more of a desktop user. The book works amazingly for me as I use it for work and when I''m finished, ill use it as a tablet whenever i want to. this is perfect for people that don't like using laptops as primary computer.
I read this review and was partly influenced by it to purchase the Surface Book 3, 13.5” for almost $2K with tax. I am upset about my purchase and here's my complaint, and you should know about if you are thinking of buying any expensive computer from MS: It's out of warranty for the last six months. My computer looks fine. I do not believe it has suffered any trauma. But it has stopped functioning. $2K down the drain. -That is a lot of money. Best Buy said I needed to go to MS. Neither will repair it. I contacted Microsoft Support and also went to the Microsoft Store on Fifth Avenue. The computer is two-part: a tablet and a keypad/touchpad with second battery (the "base"). The tablet, which has the mother board, chipset, screen and works independently of the base works perfectly, still. Only the base is broken: the touchpad does not work, and the lights on the keyboard do not come on. The base has much less of the technology in it -which is why it works as a tablet without it. At the Microsoft Store, a nice man looked at my computer, ran it through a very simple troubleshooting function on the computer itself, through 'settings.' It took five minutes. He told me it was not a software problem, so he could not help me. Really, end of story -at Microsoft. I asked how they could repair it quickly, so that I'd be up and running again. The associate and a manager told me that they could NOT REPAIR it -at all. Instead, I was given the option of turning in my computer and paying $599 (plus tax) for a refurbished replacement with a 90 day warranty. Let's consider this -I think it's an outrageous scam. Not only do they refuse to repair their expensive product, or "stand behind it," which is less than two years old, but in order to get a refurbished (used) replacement, I must also tender over my partly broken computer. How much is mine worth? After all the tablet still functions. I am sure they will repair the base easily -they will, in fact, do for themselves what they will not do for me, their customer. They will then re-sell my computer as "refurbished" to the next customer. So my cost to have a functioning computer, after having purchased one for about $2K, is $599, plus tax, plus the value of my old computer -which, even discounted for age, I would put at $800 conservatively. So, my cost to correct the problem is actually $599 + tax + $800. That is insanely unreasonable. I assumed Microsoft would provide support -at least- equal to other computer companies, for example, Dell, HP, Lenovo and, especially, Apple. Each of these companies has computers that, when a part breaks, it can be changed out and repaired with a replacement part -after all keyboards and touchpads are simple discrete parts. I have had Dell, Lenovo and Apple. With the first two, you can go to an authorized repair company and they will replace the part -touchpad, keyboard or even harddrive. Apple goes even further and their customer service at the 'Genius Bar,' really no matter how old your computer or phone is. Sometimes they even give a 'loaner.' But Microsoft, in fact, does just the opposite. The company wants my computer to be obsolete as early as possible. After all, my computer was out of warranty only six months. And it is not the case I expected something for free. But neither did I expect MS to try to squeeze me for as much money as they possibly could. So, apparently, there is no reasonable repair for my computer -unless I can find an 'unauthorized' repair shop that can get it working!
hey could you tell me if u feel the need for an iPad if u got this? I'm thinking of buying the SB3 instead of both a premium ultrabook and an iPad. Is the tablet mode actually useful or is it just a gimmick?
@@AlexSiby747 Sorry for the late reply, but yes the tablet is actually useful for my purposes. I really only use it when taking notes or browsing the web. I would like the battery to last a little longer on the tablet by itself though. So I say if you plan on using it in tablet mode a long time maybe your best bet is an ipad. But if you want a laptop and need to use a tablet here and there then get the surface book.
No the design is still awesome in 2020, It's been 5 years since the the release of the first Surface Book and nobody else could make anything like this, also great job comparing the 13 inch Surface Book 3 to 15 inch Omen. This thing has the best display, keyboard, battery life, webcam and build quality.
@@andyH_England this is quite a bit heavier and thicker and windows has panels that you get by swiping from the edge though so software to fix that will be harder
It's one of the only 13 inch laptops with graphics and then also has the pen support which is perfect for a product design and engineering student. It would be good if it had more CPU performance tho.
Until microsoft can find a way to remove the cpu from the display and throw it in the base, that sadly isn’t going to happen :( Unless microsoft throws an ARM chip in the display and then a CPU in the base or something.
Good review, but I don't really think loud speakers are a big deal unless you are doing lots of presentations. I listen to my SB2 all the time and I never turn it all the way up. For that matter my Surface Go is also good enough to listen to podcasts, news and UA-cam videos. Yes MacBooks sound better, but the SB speakers have better sound quality than almost all other laptops. I bought a MacBook 16" (and run Windows on it) because of the power and because I found a good dock, but if my SB2 didn't thermal throttle, I would probably be using it right now . Thermal throttling is the biggest drawback to the Surface Book, IMO. The ability to pick up your laptop by disconnecting a single magnetic connector is fantastic. Having all your "stuff" on one device is the goal of the SB lineup. You should do the SB3 review with the dock. Bear in mind that many potential users will have two docks - one at home and one at the office.
I bought it when it came in 2017 (15"), back then it had better specs compared to other laptops than this generation. I think youtube reviews are skewed the wrong way, they only see it from two perspectives. 1. Video / Photo editing. 2. Gaming. I'm a programmer so 3:2 screen is awesome for that. But then I also like to draw digitally and that's where it got interesting for me. A wacom screen tablet costs a good bit of money, so getting a good pen input, maybe not as good as a high end wacom but still very good, "saved" me money. I just flip the screen around and I can draw on it as well as a Cintiq. And then I could game on occasion also with a 1060 inside. Never felt that the CPU was limiting my use. So don't forget about digital artists perspective.
Buddy, i have a surface book 3, and for the sound quality, the sound is great on mine, idk if you got some crappy speakers or you put the volume wayyy down, just my opinion
I bought the Surface Book 2 because the screen can be attached backward which is very convenient for using external 3rd party keyboard. No other laptop can do this. I am also using external speakers so the sound quality doesn't matter.
Its 2023, November, and I am still enamoured with the Surface Book 3. As a senior engineer, the Surface Book 3 has been my constant companion for work, allowing me to take notes on One Note, run engineering software, and allow me to edit photos and videos taken from my drone and photogrammetry equipment. I' came to the SB3 from a Surface Pro 3, wanted something with a lot more oomph, and also with the ability to write on. The SB3 does it all and I think its one of those devices where the its more than just the sum of its parts. Yes, it does not do anything really well, but it does most things well enough, and it does one thing significantly well, flexibility in usage.
The surface book 3 is a great device in my opinion. I bought it because: 1. It’s unique and stands out from the crowd. 2. The 2 in 1 design is amazing, and that is the main reason why I bought it. 3. This is very flexible, versatile and it ticks all my boxes of both productivity, connectivity and flexibility. 4. It has probably the best speakers i have yet had (no, seriously). 5. The bezels are perfectly sized to grip the tablet. So that’s why I bought the surface book 3. Also, the cpu performance is amazing, and there is a setting in windows where you can adjust the max cpu performance. When you directly buy it and you leave it unchanged, it sometimes does around 86% of its max performance as it is set at that for most models.
Cristian Banu at least they get cheaper (air, $1199 down to $999), or the price remains the same but get better spec (pro, which get 16GB ram as stock) unlike Microsoft increasing the price over the years for the same laptop.
@@t.khushnur keyboard (you purposely failed to mention the terrible butterfly keyboard which were just deal-breaker) which is still best-in-class, better screen ratio, touchscreen (!!! You mentioned trackpad but a giant touchscreen is not important?), pen support obviously. I mean, it is hard to make a more fanboy statement. Speaker? On a laptop? How important and relevant is that honestly?
Your comparisons were significantly off base. I was waiting to hear you compare it to devices that provided the versatility of the Book where you said "the competition has gotten so much better", but that never happened. And sorry, but I don't think a MacBook and Dell XPS are true comparisons. Nor are true tablets. Where are the dual product comparisons?
I own Surface Book 3. Even though I accepted the bezel, I do not like it. It is just Microsoft's excuses of not improving the device. Look at the Surface Pro X, does it have thick bezel?
LOL, who is buying a SB3 just for gaming my friend? That whole part about the HP Omen was bizarre. This review is so weird and negative. First of all it IS a master of one - laptop. I have never used a more comfortable keyboard or trackpad, one hand opening, great battery life, 1080p webcam, etc etc. The GPU, detachable tablet, build quality etc all serve to improve the fact I can use it in any way I like.
@@rykensnow not our fault you can't afford quality and want to buy cheap. And not everyone wants a gaming machine. Actually most do not. Especially a desktop.
@@spinachpies hey could you tell me if u feel the need for an iPad if u got this? I'm thinking of buying the SB3 instead of both a premium ultrabook and an iPad. Is the tablet mode actually useful or is it just a gimmick?
@@AlexSiby747 it is useful, but you won't get the same experience from a Windows machine in tablet mode than ios or even android. The benefit is detaching for watching movies, continuation of work etc. It's not an easy answer to give sorry.
I use it for Graphic Design work and video editing, (with Adobe suite) and audio recording with Presonus Studio One and have no issues at all. When compared to Dell XPS 13 for example, it's a no brainier for me. To get touch on XPS and 32 GB ram, is $2600, SB3 is $2500 plus an additional 10% off. XPS also does not offer dedicated GPU in any configuration. I use the 2 in 1 design to show sketches to clients that I made with the pen, the form factor quickly allows me to display my work, I can lay it flat to make sketch updates on the fly, and then back to a laptop for work. I rarely use it as a tablet, mostly to swap screen back and forth. But I want something I can sketch on without carrying around additional tablet. For creatives, it really is tough to beat. As a general use laptop, there are better buys out there. All depends on how you want/need to use it.
i still hesitate to take one. i need a laptop (and not an ipad, a x86 PC), but i also want a pen to take notes on the go. the surface pro is a no go for me, and taking notes on a non detachable screen isn't great at all. plus, i already have a powerful PC "tower" at home, so i don't need much graphical power on the laptop. this device is interesting because the tablet mode is very cool, screen can flip side for notes, design is slick, i don't really care about speakers since i wear headphones all the time, the battery is great..., but yeah i still don't know, the price is high..
I bought a SurfaceBook 2 for $50. No issues with it whatsoever. The previous owner had recently upgraded to a different computer and was basically just trying to get rid of it. I had been watching different UA-cam videos about them and really just wanted to check one out just for curiousity. I found this one and figured why not and if I don't like it, just resale it but, so far, I'm actualy loving it. It won't be replacing my iPad Pro anytime soon but to just change things up every so often I like it.
Or you could say this is a laptop that can do everything but isn't tbe best at 1 thing... All the laptops / tablets you listed don't compare to its versatility, 1 device that does it all
I have a SurfaceBook 1 and I love it. Yes, the premier wouldn't work that well when editing video, but I mainly got it for school. A laptop when I want it or a big slate to draw or take notes (One Note). Many people don't know this, but you can do tablet mode with a base/stand by just reversing the base. It does wonders and it rests well with your wrists plus the added battery life. Drawing on the regular touchscreen laptops just is not comfortable. Surface pen>apple pen
This laptop is perfect for people who need a computer that can do most things good. Well.. not ridiculously fast, but just good and sometimes great. I'm a freelancer and I write articles, graphic design, edit videos, sketch/illustrate stuff, manage social media, design websites and SB does it all good. With this laptop I don't have to buy a separate PC, laptop and tablet (let's say a $1,000 PC, $500 graphic tablet, $1,500 MBP and a $1,000 iPad which would've cost me more than my $2,5K SB3 model). Bezel is actually good if you're actually using it as tablet. Well, you want something to grip on.
Commenting without using one is a shame . Although I agree that not much has changed , surface book was a very futuristic device and its time now it gets physical updates. But still much better than mbp and ipad together .
Well, it does make a better note-taking and annotation device and a better tablet than a Mac and it is a more productive device than an iPad. Although both seem still to sell so...
@@jeanbaptistelabelle I had a 16inch macbook and an ipad . I sold both and got sb2 and I love my decision till date . The keyboard alone is a blessing .
A master of none, doesn't mean is not good at any of them. In average does better than most. And it is even better for writing and productivity than a MacBook Pro. Also you can get one for cheaper with more features.
Hinge isn't the same. The usb 3 is different it supports data speeds like thunderbolt and 2 4k monitors. Only not an external gpu but it ha 1660 or quadro 3000. And has all ports neccesary.
I bought the 15" surfacebook 3 with 32GB RAM and 512GB SSD. A premium laptop with a heavy price. 4 days in and I'm already experiencing hardware issues like the keyboard and track pad occasionally not working. Now the laptop won't even turn on despite being fully charged. I am so so disappointed. I was really excited to use this for my Interior design work.
I have an MBP 13 and a Book 2 13. I play light games occasionally and almost always wear an earpiece. To me they both have nice screens and can handle quite heavy word documents (with lots of review tracks) and a lot of chrome tabs as I need to cross reference a lot. To me they don't feel that different with each other save for the OS. I prefer the Presentation by Mac and Word by Windows. Touch screen is non essential to me.
They need a slim folio, and ports on the screen as well. There's no point having a detachable screen, if you cannot take it along with you, travel light (Surface Pro scenario), and at home, you got the power of the base.
I bought this and then sent it back. When the display is not sitting on a hard surface it falls back in and doesn't stay upright. Bought a Thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen 8 instead and loving it.
I own Microsoft Surface 3. Yes its a pricy ($2500). I use it for school to take note, also gaming, anything that i wanted to do on regular computer. If you are just looking for computer just for school. Microsoft surface 3 is not for you. You are paying too much just get a use laptop. But if you are someone who do a lot of work online and spent a lot of time on internet. This is for you. I play a lots of game, do a lots of home work, and also detachable screen from keyboard is AMAZING for taking not if you have pen of course. All my family own apple macbook and some is over price than this. But is get hot super quick. I am glad that I pick this laptop. They also have lower storage if you want to pay less i think its *($1600) for the same laptop but less storage. I think you just need to figure out what you want to do with the laptop before you buy one.
Please don’t buy any surface products, software has many issues, they update it regularly, whenever new updates comes the system fails in many other hardware things...for me in last update and the keyboard and mouse stopped working...customer service is worst. Doesn’t worth the money we pay to those people!!!
Thanks, man. This cleared up many ambiguities. Would you recommend Surface pro 7 (i7) for a teacher who teaches many online classes, has not much of graphic editing, no gaming at all and a lot of note taking to do?
Surface pro 7 would be your best option, but I highly suggest you wait for the next surface pro as the pro 7 has worse batt life compared to surface pro 6
They didn't need to much, but its still a little bit dissapointing that they litterally didnt change anything. They could still done minor changes like thinner bezel, bigger trackpad, add at leasta thunderbolt 3, to make it more to 2020. It's just more like surface book 2+
Excellent video! I like your analyst of the various laptops. I could never have this thorough of a comparison on my own. I was wondering how this would work and I am glad that you did this as it is very clear now that this is not the laptop for me.
I don't get all these reviews bout it, have you heard the phrase " Jack of all Trick Master of none"? This Computer is living up to the reason it was designed for so I don't get all the hating. You buy any other cheaper computer you gonna still have to buy a tablet if your work reach that far.
I need a touchscreen/digitizer(I use it often with a digital pen), I need a very good display, a very good keyboard, I need a Windows system and a fanless system. I own a Surface book 2 (the version for poor people with i5...). It is slow and the resolution is too high (I use many technical applications that are not optimised for such resolution). Is there a 13 inches full HD alternative available?
This macbook fan boy reviewer kept comparing a clamshell laptop to a surface book. How ridiculous! To answer your question, why would anyone buy the surface book today ? I am an owner of a 13.5 inch SB3 Answer : Name me a 13 inch laptop that can detach as a tablet , support stylus pen for taking meeting notes , with dedicated graphics gtx 1650 maxQ for moderate gaming, quiet fans and office productivity battery life of 7-8 hours, supports PD USB C charging via a portable power bank during flights, excellent keyboard and trackpad in a 2in1 device ? None... You need to buy 3 device ( tablet with pen support , clamshell ultrabook , entry level gaming desktop or laptop ) to accomplish what surface book 3 offers. No doubt , each of those dedicated product will outperform the sB3 from the technical performance viewpoints but not everyone wants to own and manage so many devices. Hence, most people buy a surface book because they understand how to leverage the full potential of a single device. You don't compare a standalone iPad/ultrabook /gaming laptop to the SB3. You obviously doesn't understand the design and use case concept of surface book
people still buy it because its great. Maybe its too expensive but it pays off after 3 or for years. i didnt regret it. I still use the 1st Surfacebook
blender 3d. das why. I got the max SP3 and while it gets a little loud it am able to do alot of my work on it. Also it doesn't hurt to be able to play Pubg. And ipad cant compare. Its the tablet of this pc for me. Gotta sketch grab the ipad. Wanna struggle to sketch ill disconnect the tablet. This thing is a 3d powerhouse tho except the pen buttons cant be remapped which hurts its use in the art realm.... keyboard is so great this time tho.
Thanks for the review. Could you do a comparison where you compare other laptops to the SB3 since most of the reviews compare the SB3 to everything else? Which windows tablet is better than the SB3 tablet (portion) and offers pen support? Is it a better value to get a laptop and tablet that are better devices individually and carry both around vs the SB3? I"m not saying the SB3 doesn't have its faults but let's be fair when comparing other devices to the SB3
I'm considering the same. Is it worth it? I'm very hesitant since it does cost quite a bit and I don't edit or draw too much with it. Been loving the SB1 though...
@@karadsjm so i have both and definitely the sb3 is much faster, I went to the 15" and i wish i hadn't! The battery life isn't as great as it is advertised as well so i am disappointed for that. Also my original pen just broke and i got the newer one that doesn't have the pocket clip and i absolutely love that new pen it feels better for sure. I love love surface book so much lol. It was definitely time to upgrade from the 1! *also Microsoft bought my old sb1 for 450.00 as a trade in online. The reason why i still have two is my son has his still that i bought him this past Christmas used.
Hi!l Thanks for the really good review. I am considering buying a new laptop. I was wondering buying the MS Surface Book 3 or the Dell XPS 13 2-in-1 (with 10. Gen Intel). Which one you would recommend, especially when you are using 90% Office (like Office 365), Videoconferencing with Teams... I just started making little „how-to“-videos for my colleagues and planning to do such videos for a small number of customers. Thank you for you opinion and stay healthy!
I don't know why you UA-camrs always try to compare Mac with WinLapstops; Android phones vs iPhones, these comparisons basically wrong; as a person who use to windows laptops it 's too hard for me to migrate to mac, as moving from ios to android; Yes! I love the design of MacBooks but it's not applicable for me! so compared to other systems with windows, Surface book pro is the most powerful ( though we need to see what's powerful is!
SB is trash, my SB2 CANNOT support two 4k external monitors; CANNOT support one external 4k monitor with a 60 Hz update ratio. And SB2 often terribly OVERHEATED. I spent almost 4k bucks on my SB2 then got shitty. Can SB3 solve the above issues that SB2 encountered?
Jack of all trades, master of none - you beat me to it! I really like my mom’s Surface Pro 6, but I use it in laptop mode 96% of the time. Tablet mode in Windows 10 is AWFUL! I only use it in tablet mode for note taking. I think the Surface Pro is still a good value because of the weight and portability, but the Surface Book 3 is not a very value compared to the HP Spectre x360 15T or the Lenovo Yoga C940 15. They have six-core processors.
I got the Surface Book 2 1tb but I’m pissed off that I only got 1tb and I looked at the hard drive replacement and u really have to do surgery on your laptop in order to change it. That shit pissed me off I need certain software internally and there is not enough space to go by. I bought the pen and don’t use it and I barely take the screen off idk why just not used to it and yea the audio isn’t so loud but the battery life is amazing but I got a warranty I need to return this shit for a 2tb the least.
Bro this device is bot made for influence ers or useless internet rubbish producer youtubers, it made for designers, engineers and architects that is the why you dont get the usage of this device.
Actually a good review. He says a lot of things that other reviewers DO NOT. Got a 15 inch Surfacebook 2 a year and a half ago and the adobe suite works terribly on it despite the video card. Throttling issues all the time. In reality it does not work better than the 2014 MacBook Pro it replaced. I wasted 3000EUR on this thing. Do not know who this device if for if the "powerful" hardware just doesn't deliver anything. Also, Premier pro says that the video card is no longer supported. Once had a Microsoft phone on Nokia. That was a big mistake. This time it is a laptop. Do now honestly think that I will ever buy Microsoft products again. :(
I'm going to purchase the Microsoft Surface Book 3; I actually agree with all your points in this video; but I didn't like any of the other alternatives, above the functionality of detaching the screen; yes, I may do some video editing, but I do that on my main laptop, the Predator 17 (I know this is 4 years old now, but still fast and it's i7); I have the Surface Book when it first came out, and while I love this unit, the fact I can't have the battery replaced (Battery #1 not present shows up too much for my comfort); I know my Surface Book is on its way out; while I have the cash, I'm gonna take another chance with Microsoft; Lord will, this will be not LAST laptop; the Surface Book 3 will serve as a backup computer should Predator 17 goes on the blink; actually, in the last 6 months, I've repaired my Predator 17 on a number of issues; so the Surface Book 3 is a gift (and last) to myself. I love the detachment and the idea of surfing the net in my med, or while I'm on the road; I have a kid in the church I pastor who uses my Surface Book now, but for a 12-year-old, the Surface Book 3 will be just fine; this will keep him outta trouble while at church and under my watchful eye;' My only concern is the life of the battery; I'm thinking, my Surface Book's batteries didn't get a lot of working out since it was my second laptop (also, my Bible, theological software library) probably was used on an average of 15 hours a week; on my church meetings, my Surface Book was primary in all my meetings; the Surface Book 3 will probably get about 40 hours as I'll use it primarily (at home) for research, etc. Thanks for your video; great job!! TJ
Lol, this is totally trolling all those Windows-hacks that reviewed iPhone/iPad/Mac just like this (same bullet points and conclusions) for all those years.
If you're gonna buy Surface Pro. But for you, its screen is so small; its battery life is just... suck; its power is not enough for you. So... here is the thing you should buy.
Nice review he is just honest and tells the truth nothing to hate here guys he sees the laptop from another angle there is better laptops in the market 4 sure
When the Surface lineup (i.e. Surface Pro & Surface Book) launched around 5-6 years ago, they were really innovations. Customers like me were eager to pay a premium for the surface products. In 2020, surface products are still giving the same design, just some improvements in hardware. *AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THEY CHARGED MORE!!!* The latest surface pro base model is still giving i3, 4GB RAM, 128GB Storage, and *the SURFACE KEYBOARD and PEN ARE SOLD SEPARATELY* C'Mon Microsoft.... it's 2020 now..... look at the market out there... And Surface Products are always having some userability issues (like battery expansion, sleep & hibernate wake-up problems, bad CS after sales) I will NOT buy any surface products again unless they really change something BIG!!
´What competition are you talking about. You're hopefully not referring oranges to apples. as it get stupider then you are allowed to be when you bitxhing about bezels and then showing bezels on a normal laptop like something like that could ever be the case on SB. 1:53 you try to hold a heavy 13.5" 700g tablet with no bezels... even on my Ipad Pro 12.9 2020 I would prefer more bezels... on laptops and small mobiles Im okay with no beze3ls but on big tablets.. bezels are nice and needed unless you wanna fumble with a lot of screentouches.. big almost 14" tablets that are big hence 3:2 ratio.. you want bezels... please don't compare a tablet to a laptop. people wanting Books are likely going for that detachable feature, as having a huge 7mm thin 13.½ " Ipad pro-like tablet in windows clothing with all the programs and games you can run. is god damn nice, not least if Android 11 will support android app, as then thrse huge stand along tablet really become a joy... not least with Xbox cloud that and the ablelity to just have that screen. we got 3 books here, 2x Porsche Books and 1 X SB2 with dGPU, and no contest, the build on the Porsche is above my SB2, and I miss sockets on the SB2 unit itself.. I got it in the base with TypeC and USB3 etc, but on the Porsche, I got thunderbolt3 on the tablet itself, microSD, 2xUSB3 + another TypeC on base + wacom 4096 stulys.. This is a detachable unit, nothing comes close to this, and best of both worlds... full fledge laptop and full-fledged tablet that are 7mm thinn.. these 360" are never gonna be this good, as it is not comfortable to use them as a tablet having all the keyboard dangling underneath that aint nice to keep bumping against keys etc.. on the Porsche Books those can flip 360 + also being detacheable.... its the detachable that is the main feature.(remember that) and having a fanless 13.½" windows tablet that doesn't have any fan noise and performing 1700 in Cine20.. ain't too shabby. also tried gaming latops.. but really don't like gaming on laptops as an adult.. a big OLED screen for that immersive feeling ... small screens on laptops,, don't like that when gaming, the bigger the screen the better for an immersive effect.
Your score 3:08 doesnt seem legit.. on 8gen SB2 13.5" IM getting 1700 in Cinebench20 and thats a fanless unit 8gen SB2 13.5. in Geekbench 5 Im getting somewhat over 4000 in multi and in Geek4 compute im getting around 83.000 (compute). sadly you have made linking prohibited so one cant link anymore if you want your comment to no be removed by this YT botfilter channelholder have activated. but one can least find my scores on geekbench under the username Laniakea I highly doubt that is an legit score in Cine20.. and Intel gen11 should only give 1258 when Im on 8gen 13.5" are getting 1700. "fanless" // Just checked the Notebookcheck review, and yes they were also getting a shockingly low score in Cine20 with only 1089 score on SB3 13.5 i7 1065.. the system is being hamstring when you have in mind the SB2 is in 1700 score in Cine20 and just uncer 800 in Cine15. and that doesnt make sense that my fanless SB2 with i8650 COU that are passive cooled, only the base dGPU has a fan are getting 1700 score in Cine20 and the new SB3 with i7 1065 and CPU fans, are only getting around 1100.. it should at least be around the 8gen and likely also faster now that is seems to have fan colling the CPU.
I can just say, that it is a powerfull tool, and the most important for me, it is fun to use. I was a mac user utnil i ordered the book 3. The macbook´s are allways te same.
My take on this laptop is that no one should buy it for specific tasks such as gaming or content creation. Only buy it if you know nothing about games BG specs and photo editing, and you just like the 2-in-1 idea.
Love the review! I'm a computer engineer, I bought it for:
1) Tall aspect ratio to see more code and documents
2) 1080p webcams and dual mics are a must in 2020. 720p shitcams on most laptops don't allow me to show my circuits and diagrams to my coworkers. Main reason why the Dell XPS and others were struck out.
3) Pen input for notes and drawings.
4) No bloat whatsoever
5) Up to twice as much battery compared to Surface Pro
6) Awesome keyboard
7) Tablet mode for personal media use, on a bed or the train to work.
The only things I do not like are the bezels and the speakers.
Cool! I think the same, even though I don't have one. How does it perform in 1080p video editing? Can u tell?
@@teachervictor7645 I don't do video editing but it should do just fine; it has a fast NVME SSD, LPDDR4 RAM and 10th gen CPU. The variant with the i7 should be the best option for video editing. Pair with a Surface Dial or Pen for some smooth timeline scrolling. That said, if you only do video editing maybe the Book 3 is not the best option?
Victor Chiang someone’s review did 6k video footage and it was fine. Just remember instead of paying for great specs you are paying for the form factor. If you will use it and don’t mind windows do not hesitate twice about it. Pulse get a good warranty just in case.
Keyboard, keyboard is the most important part reason for me to choice a laptop.
I just got mine the SB3 1T 15” 32GB version it get supper hot for even minor tasks which is not cool literally. I hope it will adapt and work without getting hot all the time. I like it over all, design could have been refreshed but hey they don’t care about what ppl want I guess.
I feel like complaints about a three year old design would carry more weight if it didn’t come from someone who owns a MacBook Pro. Apple usually keeps the design for 4 Years before slapping in apple the successful force touch trackpad, unwanted Touch Bar, forcing thunderbolt down our throats or breaking the keyboard for generations. Change isn’t always good. Refining a unique product is also a valid path. I agree that the Surface Book 3 isn’t a Macbook. Because it’s not trying to be one. It’s also not a gaming laptop. It’s a 2 in 1 with pen support, a powerful graphics card, great battery life and a good keyboard. I’ve seen the surface book get a lot of love from engineers, 3d artists, programmers and data scientists. They use the touch screen to make notes and write math/physics equations with specialized symbols, for them WSL 2’s GPU support is a dream come through for Machine Learning/Deep Learning as they won’t have to dual boot Linux anymore, it’s also powerful enough for their 3d models, it has both usb-a and usb-c which convenient for college students and people who live in the real world. A reliable keyboard for hours of coding or writing papers. Having the option to write with the pen if you get tired of typing. The list goes on.
Competition has gotten better
Which competition?
Yeah really. No other devices that are good detach.
I know right
for real
Exactly
I'm a researcher who needs these things: 1) portability 2) a good processor for math programs 3)flexibility for a lot of reading + touch screen 4)a pen for taking notes 5)web browsing with multi-tabs open 6)good webcam for online meetings and classes 7)beautiful design and fancy look in conferences 8)most adaptability with windows10 pro and all its options.
Do you know any other device better than SB3? :)
I'm looking for the same thing. I do research myself and would like to know if this can handle multiple tabs open, SPSS, occasional drawing using the pen when I am not home, and multiple documents open.
Or if I should wait for the surface book 4
"Everything is identical" - MacBooks for years
Macbooks refesh every year. Surface Book once in 3 years. If you compare 2015 MB Pro and 2020 MB Pro, they are not identical...
Therefore i leaved MAC
I’m a software engineer so I got one because of the awesome keyboard (which I love), screen aspect ratio, and gpu computing for AI/Machine Learning stuff. I really like the convertible design as I also like to a draw vector art and love playing with sketchable. I use a lot of that for making PowerPoint presentations more interesting. The angle of the screen when you flip it around for drawing is very comfortable.
So overall, the many aspects I get out of this one device makes for a nice compact design. This a smartphone, and a good pair of headphones are all the tech I need to do all the work and play things I want to do. So it really appeals to my minimalist mentality of reducing stuff and distractions. I can say I really am very happy with the purchase.
what configuration did you choose?
Neko Maru I bought the 13inch, 512GB, 32GB RAM model. Storage is plenty because I archive stuff tp the cloud. 32GB of RAM is excellent for Docker container machines. The 13inch is small and portable. I’m very happy so far.
@@philhagerman Do you think it is very good for Coding and programming stuffs as well as ML projects? Does it performs good?
I've owned a Surface Book 2 since that version came out, over three years now. It's been and continues to be the absolute best laptop I've ever owned. Co-workers with comparable Dell XPS and Macbook's have all had hardware issues with batteries, keyboards, and general reliability issues. But my Surface Book keeps going 100%. I travel a lot with it and it's seen many many planes and car road trips for work. I've dropped it twice from standing height and nothing happened to it. Luggage was dropped on it also which dented the cover side of the screen, but aside from the dent in the metal case, nothing happened to the internals. It feels premium against any competitor. Reviewers complaining that the outside is unchanged, what needs to be changed? It's still nicer in appearance than anything else out there (aside from Apple laptops if you like those) and it's build quality is as good or better than anything else. And those who complain about the gap when it's closed, it has no affect on anything. So what? I never get stuff stuck in it because of this and I jam all sorts of things in my laptop bag when I travel. The only reason I'm not buying the Surface Book 3 is because there is nothing wrong with my SB 2. If you want a premium Windows laptop this is the one to buy. Don't even consider other "premium" laptops. It the difference between buying a Mercedes or a Buick.
The pen/active digitizer are a huge part of the draw ( no pun intended) of the surface book 3 and you never mentioned it.
Exactly. It is legit the selling point for a lot of people, like me who is a digital artist so I definitely like thte idea of not having to lug around a seperate tablet with me that can't even run illustrator
hey could you tell me if u feel the need for an iPad if u got this? I'm thinking of buying the SB3 instead of both a premium ultrabook and an iPad. Is the tablet mode actually useful or is it just a gimmick?
Exactly. Probably the best pen input in a laptop.
Basically, this is all the use cases you described which are niche. A pure PC gamer that never do something else, and does not care about a better screen ratio for productivity, a productive guy who never need to sign or annotate anything, a PC user that does not need or want a tablet ( I would say that probably 95% of western world household have a tablet), or a photo editor / designer that would not benefit from a pen for masking or fine selection...
All kind of usage benefit from a mix of input method, mix of form factor and bettet screen ratio than 16:9 just good for movies.
This is where this device excels. It does all. Maybe not better that very niche tasks compared to very niche hardware but for most of the task it does it as well or even better than others where you face irremedialy one constraint or the other
Umm excuse my but what type of photo editor would not benefit from a drawing tablet and a good pen? There is no such thing as just a photo editor, that kinda of stuff falls under general graphic design, which definitely makes use of a good pen
Slight correction on the ports, Microsoft store lists the USB C officially as being:
2 x USB-A (version 3.1 Gen 2)
1 x USB-C® (version 3.1 Gen 2 with USB Power Delivery revision 3.0)
Gen 2 provides 10 Gbit/s, doubling the Surface Book 2 speed.
"You can't upgrade anything in the Surface Book 3"
Just like a MacBook
I'm more of a desktop user. The book works amazingly for me as I use it for work and when I''m finished, ill use it as a tablet whenever i want to.
this is perfect for people that don't like using laptops as primary computer.
I read this review and was partly influenced by it to purchase the Surface Book 3, 13.5” for almost $2K with tax. I am upset about my purchase and here's my complaint, and you should know about if you are thinking of buying any expensive computer from MS:
It's out of warranty for the last six months. My computer looks fine. I do not believe it has suffered any trauma. But it has stopped functioning. $2K down the drain. -That is a lot of money. Best Buy said I needed to go to MS. Neither will repair it. I contacted Microsoft Support and also went to the Microsoft Store on Fifth Avenue.
The computer is two-part: a tablet and a keypad/touchpad with second battery (the "base"). The tablet, which has the mother board, chipset, screen and works independently of the base works perfectly, still. Only the base is broken: the touchpad does not work, and the lights on the keyboard do not come on. The base has much less of the technology in it -which is why it works as a tablet without it.
At the Microsoft Store, a nice man looked at my computer, ran it through a very simple troubleshooting function on the computer itself, through 'settings.' It took five minutes. He told me it was not a software problem, so he could not help me. Really, end of story -at Microsoft.
I asked how they could repair it quickly, so that I'd be up and running again. The associate and a manager told me that they could NOT REPAIR it -at all. Instead, I was given the option of turning in my computer and paying $599 (plus tax) for a refurbished replacement with a 90 day warranty.
Let's consider this -I think it's an outrageous scam. Not only do they refuse to repair their expensive product, or "stand behind it," which is less than two years old, but in order to get a refurbished (used) replacement, I must also tender over my partly broken computer. How much is mine worth? After all the tablet still functions. I am sure they will repair the base easily -they will, in fact, do for themselves what they will not do for me, their customer. They will then re-sell my computer as "refurbished" to the next customer. So my cost to have a functioning computer, after having purchased one for about $2K, is $599, plus tax, plus the value of my old computer -which, even discounted for age, I would put at $800 conservatively. So, my cost to correct the problem is actually $599 + tax + $800. That is insanely unreasonable.
I assumed Microsoft would provide support -at least- equal to other computer companies, for example, Dell, HP, Lenovo and, especially, Apple. Each of these companies has computers that, when a part breaks, it can be changed out and repaired with a replacement part -after all keyboards and touchpads are simple discrete parts. I have had Dell, Lenovo and Apple. With the first two, you can go to an authorized repair company and they will replace the part -touchpad, keyboard or even harddrive. Apple goes even further and their customer service at the 'Genius Bar,' really no matter how old your computer or phone is. Sometimes they even give a 'loaner.'
But Microsoft, in fact, does just the opposite. The company wants my computer to be obsolete as early as possible. After all, my computer was out of warranty only six months. And it is not the case I expected something for free. But neither did I expect MS to try to squeeze me for as much money as they possibly could. So, apparently, there is no reasonable repair for my computer -unless I can find an 'unauthorized' repair shop that can get it working!
I’ve had mine for a while personally I love it. All these you tubers just nitpicking lol
Well everyone different and it just depends on what you use it for bud
hey could you tell me if u feel the need for an iPad if u got this? I'm thinking of buying the SB3 instead of both a premium ultrabook and an iPad. Is the tablet mode actually useful or is it just a gimmick?
@@AlexSiby747 Sorry for the late reply, but yes the tablet is actually useful for my purposes. I really only use it when taking notes or browsing the web. I would like the battery to last a little longer on the tablet by itself though. So I say if you plan on using it in tablet mode a long time maybe your best bet is an ipad. But if you want a laptop and need to use a tablet here and there then get the surface book.
No the design is still awesome in 2020, It's been 5 years since the the release of the first Surface Book and nobody else could make anything like this, also great job comparing the 13 inch Surface Book 3 to 15 inch Omen. This thing has the best display, keyboard, battery life, webcam and build quality.
I dont like the bezels for some reason
@@andyH_England this is quite a bit heavier and thicker and windows has panels that you get by swiping from the edge though so software to fix that will be harder
They're thick but I like that they are symmetrical
@@-Yeti- lol
It's one of the only 13 inch laptops with graphics and then also has the pen support which is perfect for a product design and engineering student. It would be good if it had more CPU performance tho.
Until microsoft can find a way to remove the cpu from the display and throw it in the base, that sadly isn’t going to happen :(
Unless microsoft throws an ARM chip in the display and then a CPU in the base or something.
Good review, but I don't really think loud speakers are a big deal unless you are doing lots of presentations. I listen to my SB2 all the time and I never turn it all the way up. For that matter my Surface Go is also good enough to listen to podcasts, news and UA-cam videos. Yes MacBooks sound better, but the SB speakers have better sound quality than almost all other laptops.
I bought a MacBook 16" (and run Windows on it) because of the power and because I found a good dock, but if my SB2 didn't thermal throttle, I would probably be using it right now . Thermal throttling is the biggest drawback to the Surface Book, IMO. The ability to pick up your laptop by disconnecting a single magnetic connector is fantastic. Having all your "stuff" on one device is the goal of the SB lineup.
You should do the SB3 review with the dock. Bear in mind that many potential users will have two docks - one at home and one at the office.
I bought it when it came in 2017 (15"), back then it had better specs compared to other laptops than this generation. I think youtube reviews are skewed the wrong way, they only see it from two perspectives. 1. Video / Photo editing. 2. Gaming. I'm a programmer so 3:2 screen is awesome for that. But then I also like to draw digitally and that's where it got interesting for me. A wacom screen tablet costs a good bit of money, so getting a good pen input, maybe not as good as a high end wacom but still very good, "saved" me money. I just flip the screen around and I can draw on it as well as a Cintiq. And then I could game on occasion also with a 1060 inside. Never felt that the CPU was limiting my use. So don't forget about digital artists perspective.
Buddy, i have a surface book 3, and for the sound quality, the sound is great on mine, idk if you got some crappy speakers or you put the volume wayyy down, just my opinion
I bought the Surface Book 2 because the screen can be attached backward which is very convenient for using external 3rd party keyboard. No other laptop can do this. I am also using external speakers so the sound quality doesn't matter.
And when you close the Surface Book, the screen can still face up. No other laptop can do this.
Its 2023, November, and I am still enamoured with the Surface Book 3. As a senior engineer, the Surface Book 3 has been my constant companion for work, allowing me to take notes on One Note, run engineering software, and allow me to edit photos and videos taken from my drone and photogrammetry equipment. I' came to the SB3 from a Surface Pro 3, wanted something with a lot more oomph, and also with the ability to write on. The SB3 does it all and I think its one of those devices where the its more than just the sum of its parts. Yes, it does not do anything really well, but it does most things well enough, and it does one thing significantly well, flexibility in usage.
The surface book 3 is a great device in my opinion. I bought it because:
1. It’s unique and stands out from the crowd.
2. The 2 in 1 design is amazing, and that is the main reason why I bought it.
3. This is very flexible, versatile and it ticks all my boxes of both productivity, connectivity and flexibility.
4. It has probably the best speakers i have yet had (no, seriously).
5. The bezels are perfectly sized to grip the tablet.
So that’s why I bought the surface book 3. Also, the cpu performance is amazing, and there is a setting in windows where you can adjust the max cpu performance. When you directly buy it and you leave it unchanged, it sometimes does around 86% of its max performance as it is set at that for most models.
Now, let's be honest, Mac just did the same, changing the interior of the laptop... But... Apple is lunching every year a new laptop!
Cristian Banu at least they get cheaper (air, $1199 down to $999), or the price remains the same but get better spec (pro, which get 16GB ram as stock) unlike Microsoft increasing the price over the years for the same laptop.
And that is since 2016 .
@@hk6926 Also, Macs have the best speakers, screens, and trackpads on the market. I don't think that Microsoft Books are the best in any field.
@@t.khushnur keyboard (you purposely failed to mention the terrible butterfly keyboard which were just deal-breaker) which is still best-in-class, better screen ratio, touchscreen (!!! You mentioned trackpad but a giant touchscreen is not important?), pen support obviously. I mean, it is hard to make a more fanboy statement. Speaker? On a laptop? How important and relevant is that honestly?
surface Book 3 has a significant upgrade from the Book 2 in therms of performance: graphics & processing !
Your comparisons were significantly off base. I was waiting to hear you compare it to devices that provided the versatility of the Book where you said "the competition has gotten so much better", but that never happened. And sorry, but I don't think a MacBook and Dell XPS are true comparisons. Nor are true tablets. Where are the dual product comparisons?
I would prefer those bezels as they will provide me grip to hold. He is an apple fan and I he will support apple no matter what.
I was thinking the same thing 🤣🤣
I own the device, and it's big as a tablet anyways
I own Surface Book 3. Even though I accepted the bezel, I do not like it. It is just Microsoft's excuses of not improving the device. Look at the Surface Pro X, does it have thick bezel?
I disagree with you, don't get me wrong, I am a Windows user but still look at the iPad or Tab S5. They can reduce the bezel size
LOL, who is buying a SB3 just for gaming my friend? That whole part about the HP Omen was bizarre.
This review is so weird and negative. First of all it IS a master of one - laptop. I have never used a more comfortable keyboard or trackpad, one hand opening, great battery life, 1080p webcam, etc etc.
The GPU, detachable tablet, build quality etc all serve to improve the fact I can use it in any way I like.
I paid 600 for my gaming pc with a rtx 2060. If someones paying over 2000 bucks for this, they just want to spend money
@@rykensnow not our fault you can't afford quality and want to buy cheap. And not everyone wants a gaming machine. Actually most do not. Especially a desktop.
@@spinachpies hey could you tell me if u feel the need for an iPad if u got this? I'm thinking of buying the SB3 instead of both a premium ultrabook and an iPad. Is the tablet mode actually useful or is it just a gimmick?
@@AlexSiby747 it is useful, but you won't get the same experience from a Windows machine in tablet mode than ios or even android. The benefit is detaching for watching movies, continuation of work etc.
It's not an easy answer to give sorry.
@@spinachpies thanks :-)
i personally think that this thing is for people who are looking for "windows" laptop
not for people who say like "i decided to buy macbook instead"
I use it for Graphic Design work and video editing, (with Adobe suite) and audio recording with Presonus Studio One and have no issues at all. When compared to Dell XPS 13 for example, it's a no brainier for me. To get touch on XPS and 32 GB ram, is $2600, SB3 is $2500 plus an additional 10% off. XPS also does not offer dedicated GPU in any configuration. I use the 2 in 1 design to show sketches to clients that I made with the pen, the form factor quickly allows me to display my work, I can lay it flat to make sketch updates on the fly, and then back to a laptop for work. I rarely use it as a tablet, mostly to swap screen back and forth. But I want something I can sketch on without carrying around additional tablet. For creatives, it really is tough to beat. As a general use laptop, there are better buys out there. All depends on how you want/need to use it.
I also do graphic/illustrative work along with audio recording. I've have zero artistic issues but a trillion audio issues.
This is the only Latop with a good build in webcam. In covid-19 times with a lot of video conferencing this is a very important feature.
3:31 there is mistake, swapping of laptops score.
Just noticed lol
i still hesitate to take one. i need a laptop (and not an ipad, a x86 PC), but i also want a pen to take notes on the go. the surface pro is a no go for me, and taking notes on a non detachable screen isn't great at all. plus, i already have a powerful PC "tower" at home, so i don't need much graphical power on the laptop. this device is interesting because the tablet mode is very cool, screen can flip side for notes, design is slick, i don't really care about speakers since i wear headphones all the time, the battery is great..., but yeah i still don't know, the price is high..
Maybe consider a Surface Go 2?
I bought a SurfaceBook 2 for $50. No issues with it whatsoever. The previous owner had recently upgraded to a different computer and was basically just trying to get rid of it. I had been watching different UA-cam videos about them and really just wanted to check one out just for curiousity. I found this one and figured why not and if I don't like it, just resale it but, so far, I'm actualy loving it. It won't be replacing my iPad Pro anytime soon but to just change things up every so often I like it.
Or you could say this is a laptop that can do everything but isn't tbe best at 1 thing... All the laptops / tablets you listed don't compare to its versatility, 1 device that does it all
I have a SurfaceBook 1 and I love it. Yes, the premier wouldn't work that well when editing video, but I mainly got it for school. A laptop when I want it or a big slate to draw or take notes (One Note). Many people don't know this, but you can do tablet mode with a base/stand by just reversing the base. It does wonders and it rests well with your wrists plus the added battery life. Drawing on the regular touchscreen laptops just is not comfortable. Surface pen>apple pen
This laptop is perfect for people who need a computer that can do most things good. Well.. not ridiculously fast, but just good and sometimes great.
I'm a freelancer and I write articles, graphic design, edit videos, sketch/illustrate stuff, manage social media, design websites and SB does it all good.
With this laptop I don't have to buy a separate PC, laptop and tablet (let's say a $1,000 PC, $500 graphic tablet, $1,500 MBP and a $1,000 iPad which would've cost me more than my $2,5K SB3 model).
Bezel is actually good if you're actually using it as tablet. Well, you want something to grip on.
So true! This product tries to do all the things, but none of the things is done well.
Commenting without using one is a shame . Although I agree that not much has changed , surface book was a very futuristic device and its time now it gets physical updates. But still much better than mbp and ipad together .
Which devis better for productivity???
Well, it does make a better note-taking and annotation device and a better tablet than a Mac and it is a more productive device than an iPad. Although both seem still to sell so...
@@jeanbaptistelabelle I had a 16inch macbook and an ipad . I sold both and got sb2 and I love my decision till date . The keyboard alone is a blessing .
A master of none, doesn't mean is not good at any of them. In average does better than most. And it is even better for writing and productivity than a MacBook Pro. Also you can get one for cheaper with more features.
3:30 is that graph correct? U said the surface book has the worst i7 performance
Hinge isn't the same.
The usb 3 is different it supports data speeds like thunderbolt and 2
4k monitors. Only not an external gpu but it ha 1660 or quadro 3000.
And has all ports neccesary.
I bought the 15" surfacebook 3 with 32GB RAM and 512GB SSD. A premium laptop with a heavy price. 4 days in and I'm already experiencing hardware issues like the keyboard and track pad occasionally not working. Now the laptop won't even turn on despite being fully charged. I am so so disappointed. I was really excited to use this for my Interior design work.
How's the keyboard and trackpad compared to the surface laptop 3? Are they the same or different?
I have an MBP 13 and a Book 2 13. I play light games occasionally and almost always wear an earpiece. To me they both have nice screens and can handle quite heavy word documents (with lots of review tracks) and a lot of chrome tabs as I need to cross reference a lot. To me they don't feel that different with each other save for the OS. I prefer the Presentation by Mac and Word by Windows. Touch screen is non essential to me.
They need a slim folio, and ports on the screen as well. There's no point having a detachable screen, if you cannot take it along with you, travel light (Surface Pro scenario), and at home, you got the power of the base.
I bought this and then sent it back. When the display is not sitting on a hard surface it falls back in and doesn't stay upright. Bought a Thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen 8 instead and loving it.
I'm trying to go back to Windows, but Mac always beat the hell out of Windows.
for me as a student, the computer with OneNote and the surface pen is very nice to use, and no other computer can do this so well
I own Microsoft Surface 3. Yes its a pricy ($2500). I use it for school to take note, also gaming, anything that i wanted to do on regular computer. If you are just looking for computer just for school. Microsoft surface 3 is not for you. You are paying too much just get a use laptop. But if you are someone who do a lot of work online and spent a lot of time on internet. This is for you. I play a lots of game, do a lots of home work, and also detachable screen from keyboard is AMAZING for taking not if you have pen of course. All my family own apple macbook and some is over price than this. But is get hot super quick. I am glad that I pick this laptop. They also have lower storage if you want to pay less i think its *($1600) for the same laptop but less storage. I think you just need to figure out what you want to do with the laptop before you buy one.
They need Thunderbolt 3 support so that you can add power with an eGPU.
Please don’t buy any surface products, software has many issues, they update it regularly, whenever new updates comes the system fails in many other hardware things...for me in last update and the keyboard and mouse stopped working...customer service is worst. Doesn’t worth the money we pay to those people!!!
Thanks, man. This cleared up many ambiguities. Would you recommend Surface pro 7 (i7) for a teacher who teaches many online classes, has not much of graphic editing, no gaming at all and a lot of note taking to do?
Thant's exactly why I'm going for the SB3 instead of other stuff..but to me, power processing is very important
Surface pro 7 would be your best option, but I highly suggest you wait for the next surface pro as the pro 7 has worse batt life compared to surface pro 6
What do you say for creatives , The surface book 3 vs dell XPS 17 + samsung tab s6 lite?
They didn't need to much, but its still a little bit dissapointing that they litterally didnt change anything. They could still done minor changes like thinner bezel, bigger trackpad, add at leasta thunderbolt 3, to make it more to 2020. It's just more like surface book 2+
Excellent video! I like your analyst of the various laptops. I could never have this thorough of a comparison on my own. I was wondering how this would work and I am glad that you did this as it is very clear now that this is not the laptop for me.
I don't get all these reviews bout it, have you heard the phrase " Jack of all Trick Master of none"? This Computer is living up to the reason it was designed for so I don't get all the hating. You buy any other cheaper computer you gonna still have to buy a tablet if your work reach that far.
I need a touchscreen/digitizer(I use it often with a digital pen), I need a very good display, a very good keyboard, I need a Windows system and a fanless system. I own a Surface book 2 (the version for poor people with i5...). It is slow and the resolution is too high (I use many technical applications that are not optimised for such resolution). Is there a 13 inches full HD alternative available?
Seems companies put out new computer versions for the sake of putting out new versions.
Isn't it wrong text at Microsoft surface laptop 3. 7:24
This macbook fan boy reviewer kept comparing a clamshell laptop to a surface book. How ridiculous!
To answer your question, why would anyone buy the surface book today ? I am an owner of a 13.5 inch SB3
Answer : Name me a 13 inch laptop that can detach as a tablet , support stylus pen for taking meeting notes , with dedicated graphics gtx 1650 maxQ for moderate gaming, quiet fans and office productivity battery life of 7-8 hours, supports PD USB C charging via a portable power bank during flights, excellent keyboard and trackpad in a 2in1 device ?
None... You need to buy 3 device ( tablet with pen support , clamshell ultrabook , entry level gaming desktop or laptop ) to accomplish what surface book 3 offers. No doubt , each of those dedicated product will outperform the sB3 from the technical performance viewpoints but not everyone wants to own and manage so many devices.
Hence, most people buy a surface book because they understand how to leverage the full potential of a single device.
You don't compare a standalone iPad/ultrabook /gaming laptop to the SB3.
You obviously doesn't understand the design and use case concept of surface book
people still buy it because its great. Maybe its too expensive but it pays off after 3 or for years. i didnt regret it. I still use the 1st Surfacebook
blender 3d. das why. I got the max SP3 and while it gets a little loud it am able to do alot of my work on it. Also it doesn't hurt to be able to play Pubg. And ipad cant compare. Its the tablet of this pc for me. Gotta sketch grab the ipad. Wanna struggle to sketch ill disconnect the tablet. This thing is a 3d powerhouse tho except the pen buttons cant be remapped which hurts its use in the art realm....
keyboard is so great this time tho.
Thanks for the review. Could you do a comparison where you compare other laptops to the SB3 since most of the reviews compare the SB3 to everything else? Which windows tablet is better than the SB3 tablet (portion) and offers pen support? Is it a better value to get a laptop and tablet that are better devices individually and carry both around vs the SB3? I"m not saying the SB3 doesn't have its faults but let's be fair when comparing other devices to the SB3
Thank you
I love my Surface Book 3, i just finally upgraded from my Surface Book 1, only because it was starting to slow me down
I'm considering the same. Is it worth it? I'm very hesitant since it does cost quite a bit and I don't edit or draw too much with it. Been loving the SB1 though...
@@karadsjm so i have both and definitely the sb3 is much faster, I went to the 15" and i wish i hadn't! The battery life isn't as great as it is advertised as well so i am disappointed for that. Also my original pen just broke and i got the newer one that doesn't have the pocket clip and i absolutely love that new pen it feels better for sure. I love love surface book so much lol. It was definitely time to upgrade from the 1! *also Microsoft bought my old sb1 for 450.00 as a trade in online. The reason why i still have two is my son has his still that i bought him this past Christmas used.
Same here, I still love my sb1 but I ordered the sb3 and can’t wait to receive it. Glad ms did not change the form lol
Are we going to act like MacBook really changed there designs besides the irrelevant Touch Bar
How does the trackpad compare to the macbook
@maxtech what do you think about the use of drawing (tattoos) and every day use?
Hi!l Thanks for the really good review. I am considering buying a new laptop. I was wondering buying the MS Surface Book 3 or the Dell XPS 13 2-in-1 (with 10. Gen Intel). Which one you would recommend, especially when you are using 90% Office (like Office 365), Videoconferencing with Teams... I just started making little „how-to“-videos for my colleagues and planning to do such videos for a small number of customers. Thank you for you opinion and stay healthy!
If I were in your situation, I would surely go for Surface book 3
Ms book 3 is best for you
I don't know why you UA-camrs always try to compare Mac with WinLapstops; Android phones vs iPhones, these comparisons basically wrong; as a person who use to windows laptops it 's too hard for me to migrate to mac, as moving from ios to android; Yes! I love the design of MacBooks but it's not applicable for me! so compared to other systems with windows, Surface book pro is the most powerful ( though we need to see what's powerful is!
The worst review I've seen... lolx...
I agree.
No OEM has tried to copy it says a lot. I wish it was lighter and thinner.
I saw a review saying book 3 processor is weak?
sometimes we really want a jack of all trade for an average consumer.
I'm surprised theres no pen included with that price.
You didnt really get who this device is made for... Not a good review
Mhm, i agree.
Just kipping on with my surface laptop 6.... it still does it....
surface laptop 6??? Time traveler? How are the 12th gen and over intel processors
4:17 Que laptop es?
max said that the apple keyboard is the best when ihe compared it to the surface but now he says that this one is the best
SB is trash, my SB2 CANNOT support two 4k external monitors; CANNOT support one external 4k monitor with a 60 Hz update ratio. And SB2 often terribly OVERHEATED. I spent almost 4k bucks on my SB2 then got shitty.
Can SB3 solve the above issues that SB2 encountered?
Could this be an iPad pro killer ?
You can consistently count on this UA-cam page to put down Microsoft and Android every single time. 🤦🏻♂️
Jack of all trades, master of none - you beat me to it! I really like my mom’s Surface Pro 6, but I use it in laptop mode 96% of the time. Tablet mode in Windows 10 is AWFUL! I only use it in tablet mode for note taking. I think the Surface Pro is still a good value because of the weight and portability, but the Surface Book 3 is not a very value compared to the HP Spectre x360 15T or the Lenovo Yoga C940 15. They have six-core processors.
Bro compare xps 15 9500 and new macbook pro 16 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
7:16 Dell XPS 2 in 1 7390 should also be mentioned as a direct 2 in 1 competitor.
How do I download the wallpapers in the link??
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I got the Surface Book 2 1tb but I’m pissed off that I only got 1tb and I looked at the hard drive replacement and u really have to do surgery on your laptop in order to change it. That shit pissed me off I need certain software internally and there is not enough space to go by. I bought the pen and don’t use it and I barely take the screen off idk why just not used to it and yea the audio isn’t so loud but the battery life is amazing but I got a warranty I need to return this shit for a 2tb the least.
Bro this device is bot made for influence ers or useless internet rubbish producer youtubers, it made for designers, engineers and architects that is the why you dont get the usage of this device.
Actually a good review. He says a lot of things that other reviewers DO NOT. Got a 15 inch Surfacebook 2 a year and a half ago and the adobe suite works terribly on it despite the video card. Throttling issues all the time. In reality it does not work better than the 2014 MacBook Pro it replaced. I wasted 3000EUR on this thing. Do not know who this device if for if the "powerful" hardware just doesn't deliver anything. Also, Premier pro says that the video card is no longer supported.
Once had a Microsoft phone on Nokia. That was a big mistake. This time it is a laptop. Do now honestly think that I will ever buy Microsoft products again. :(
I'm going to purchase the Microsoft Surface Book 3; I actually agree with all your points in this video; but I didn't like any of the other alternatives, above the functionality of detaching the screen; yes, I may do some video editing, but I do that on my main laptop, the Predator 17 (I know this is 4 years old now, but still fast and it's i7); I have the Surface Book when it first came out, and while I love this unit, the fact I can't have the battery replaced (Battery #1 not present shows up too much for my comfort); I know my Surface Book is on its way out; while I have the cash, I'm gonna take another chance with Microsoft; Lord will, this will be not LAST laptop; the Surface Book 3 will serve as a backup computer should Predator 17 goes on the blink; actually, in the last 6 months, I've repaired my Predator 17 on a number of issues; so the Surface Book 3 is a gift (and last) to myself. I love the detachment and the idea of surfing the net in my med, or while I'm on the road; I have a kid in the church I pastor who uses my Surface Book now, but for a 12-year-old, the Surface Book 3 will be just fine; this will keep him outta trouble while at church and under my watchful eye;'
My only concern is the life of the battery; I'm thinking, my Surface Book's batteries didn't get a lot of working out since it was my second laptop (also, my Bible, theological software library) probably was used on an average of 15 hours a week; on my church meetings, my Surface Book was primary in all my meetings; the Surface Book 3 will probably get about 40 hours as I'll use it primarily (at home) for research, etc. Thanks for your video; great job!! TJ
If apple made a device like this with similar form factor abs touch detachable but with m1x chip I’d pay 5k plus in the blink of an eye
Lol, this is totally trolling all those Windows-hacks that reviewed iPhone/iPad/Mac just like this (same bullet points and conclusions) for all those years.
If you're gonna buy Surface Pro. But for you, its screen is so small; its battery life is just... suck; its power is not enough for you. So... here is the thing you should buy.
Nice review he is just honest and tells the truth nothing to hate here guys he sees the laptop from another angle there is better laptops in the market 4 sure
I like you for your great talk and loyalties
Can it run vr?
When the Surface lineup (i.e. Surface Pro & Surface Book) launched around 5-6 years ago, they were really innovations.
Customers like me were eager to pay a premium for the surface products.
In 2020, surface products are still giving the same design, just some improvements in hardware.
*AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THEY CHARGED MORE!!!*
The latest surface pro base model is still giving i3, 4GB RAM, 128GB Storage, and *the SURFACE KEYBOARD and PEN ARE SOLD SEPARATELY*
C'Mon Microsoft.... it's 2020 now..... look at the market out there...
And Surface Products are always having some userability issues (like battery expansion, sleep & hibernate wake-up problems, bad CS after sales)
I will NOT buy any surface products again unless they really change something BIG!!
´What competition are you talking about.
You're hopefully not referring oranges to apples.
as it get stupider then you are allowed to be when you bitxhing about bezels and then showing bezels on a normal laptop like something like that could ever be the case on SB. 1:53
you try to hold a heavy 13.5" 700g tablet with no bezels... even on my Ipad Pro 12.9 2020 I would prefer more bezels... on laptops and small mobiles Im okay with no beze3ls but on big tablets.. bezels are nice and needed unless you wanna fumble with a lot of screentouches..
big almost 14" tablets that are big hence 3:2 ratio.. you want bezels... please don't compare a tablet to a laptop.
people wanting Books are likely going for that detachable feature, as having a huge 7mm thin 13.½ " Ipad pro-like tablet in windows clothing with all the programs and games you can run. is god damn nice, not least if Android 11 will support android app, as then thrse huge stand along tablet really become a joy... not least with Xbox cloud that and the ablelity to just have that screen.
we got 3 books here, 2x Porsche Books and 1 X SB2 with dGPU, and no contest, the build on the Porsche is above my SB2, and I miss sockets on the SB2 unit itself.. I got it in the base with TypeC and USB3 etc, but on the Porsche, I got thunderbolt3 on the tablet itself, microSD, 2xUSB3 + another TypeC on base + wacom 4096 stulys..
This is a detachable unit, nothing comes close to this, and best of both worlds... full fledge laptop and full-fledged tablet that are 7mm thinn.. these 360" are never gonna be this good, as it is not comfortable to use them as a tablet having all the keyboard dangling underneath that aint nice to keep bumping against keys etc.. on the Porsche Books those can flip 360 + also being detacheable.... its the detachable that is the main feature.(remember that)
and having a fanless 13.½" windows tablet that doesn't have any fan noise and performing 1700 in Cine20.. ain't too shabby.
also tried gaming latops.. but really don't like gaming on laptops as an adult.. a big OLED screen for that immersive feeling ... small screens on laptops,, don't like that when gaming, the bigger the screen the better for an immersive effect.
Your score 3:08 doesnt seem legit.. on 8gen SB2 13.5" IM getting 1700 in Cinebench20 and thats a fanless unit 8gen SB2 13.5.
in Geekbench 5 Im getting somewhat over 4000 in multi and in Geek4 compute im getting around 83.000 (compute).
sadly you have made linking prohibited so one cant link anymore if you want your comment to no be removed by this YT botfilter channelholder have activated.
but one can least find my scores on geekbench under the username Laniakea
I highly doubt that is an legit score in Cine20.. and Intel gen11 should only give 1258 when Im on 8gen 13.5" are getting 1700. "fanless"
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Just checked the Notebookcheck review, and yes they were also getting a shockingly low score in Cine20 with only 1089 score on SB3 13.5 i7 1065..
the system is being hamstring when you have in mind the SB2 is in 1700 score in Cine20 and just uncer 800 in Cine15.
and that doesnt make sense that my fanless SB2 with i8650 COU that are passive cooled, only the base dGPU has a fan are getting 1700 score in Cine20 and the new SB3 with i7 1065 and CPU fans, are only getting around 1100.. it should at least be around the 8gen and likely also faster now that is seems to have fan colling the CPU.
Try as they may, these clowns just can't hide their MacBook bias.
I can just say, that it is a powerfull tool, and the most important for me, it is fun to use. I was a mac user utnil i ordered the book 3. The macbook´s are allways te same.
My take on this laptop is that no one should buy it for specific tasks such as gaming or content creation. Only buy it if you know nothing about games BG specs and photo editing, and you just like the 2-in-1 idea.