Lu Guang is WRONG About Time || Link Click Time & Memory Theory

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  • @anaelisajacobo9328
    @anaelisajacobo9328 14 днів тому +154

    "Otherwise... Please go to therapy for your PTSD, Lu Guang, you really need it"
    Well that's not a lie

    • @hyperfaexation
      @hyperfaexation  14 днів тому +16

      he truly does v__v please get this boy a therapist, a cup of hot cocoa, and a soft blanket

    • @KennaBoBemma
      @KennaBoBemma 13 днів тому +5

      Came to comment the same thing lol - like Lu Guang, bud, you're traumatized. It happens. Get therapy. And a big hug.

  • @elizabethescandon7098
    @elizabethescandon7098 13 днів тому +50

    STOP cuz I just saw a few days ago someone say that at this point the only happy ending they could come up with would be that Lu Guang would get amnesia or something so they could start all over again without the trauma 😭

  • @fixielle
    @fixielle 14 днів тому +75

    What I've gathered from the songs, there are two types of time used, Shiguang, which seems to be more about memories, which is indeed shown through filmstrips, and Shijian, which is more concrete sense of time, like minutes and hours (there are other words for time in Chinese but Shijian comes from The Girl Downstairs, where Link Click was called that instead of Shiguang Dailiren)
    For example in 3, 2, 1! Cheng Xiaoshi is seen with filmstrips behind him, so he sees time more as shiguang, while Lu Guang, who has more clocks behind him, sees time more as shijian.
    This way they see time may also refer to how they see the relationship between Cheng Xiaoshi and Lu Guang, since Shiguang has characters from both of their names they should stay together but Shijian doesn't so they shouldn't. Qiao Ling in her music video also has film strips so she sees time as shiguang but Liu Xiao in Prometheus has clocks behind him so he sees time as Shijian.
    I don't yet know where Xia Fei falls with his digital clocks and I don't remember Vein having any clocks associated with him.

    • @duca_4951
      @duca_4951 7 днів тому +5

      Maybe with Xia Fei and digital clocks is that xou can't turn back or forward time with it and it only tells time in the present, while with Lu Guangs analogs clocks you can "turn back or farward time" by manually moving the clock hands

  • @Kat-z5x
    @Kat-z5x 14 днів тому +76

    OMG WHAT THIS IS SO SMART and i also didn’t notice that eye rug too so thats pretty cool

    • @hyperfaexation
      @hyperfaexation  14 днів тому +10

      THE EYE RUG WAS SO CRAZY I WAS LIKE HELLO????

  • @archerthepainthorse9902
    @archerthepainthorse9902 13 днів тому +23

    Lu Guang really needs therapy for his trauma

    • @hyperfaexation
      @hyperfaexation  13 днів тому +4

      truly v__v get this boy a good therapist and a hug

  • @MINIPRO27
    @MINIPRO27 14 днів тому +31

    I believe they're showing 3 separate timelines that come before s1 and splicing it together which explains all the animation inconsistencies.
    The clocks in season 1 are always offset compared to Lu Guang's watch when they dive together, also the "timeline" comparison you give from video editing from what I understand means that the clips can't be trimmed because these nodes need to happen in the timeline, however lu Guang can overwrite the source footage as long as these frames still reach the right timecode

    • @hyperfaexation
      @hyperfaexation  13 днів тому +8

      Exactly!! If we view the timelines like a recording and Liu Xiao wants to "merge the timelines", I wonder if he is wanting to act almost like an editor and splice them all together into one?

    • @MINIPRO27
      @MINIPRO27 13 днів тому +6

      @@hyperfaexation actually, maybe these spliced timelines we're seeing is Liu Xiao already starting to do exactly that

  • @serialrey
    @serialrey 14 днів тому +25

    this is such a good theory!! everything that you've said all makes so much sense and has me genuinely thinking that lu guang forgetting everything might just be the solution. I find it really interesting how all these little snippets linked to time perception/the plot, seem to be always hiding in the background, and I like how you unpacked them and linked them with what possibilities they could indicate for the fate of link click.

  • @ravenslight7934
    @ravenslight7934 13 днів тому +12

    I didn't even notice that rug! I like the theory too, it makes so much sense! The dream sequence in the last episode had me wondering if Vein has some form of reality manipulation too. Lu was also able to sense his presence, so I wonder if Vein's ability has some relation to time as well. Both him and Liu Xiao have me incredibly curious actually. I'm absolutely ecstatic to see that Link Click theorists exist! Your also not wrong about Lu Guang needing therapy. Poor guy.

  • @ivanalnst
    @ivanalnst 10 днів тому +10

    CRYING I JUST WANT THEM TO BE HAPPY

  • @huynvu7587
    @huynvu7587 14 днів тому +22

    ITS SO COOL TO SEE MORE LINK CLICK DETECTIVES I LOVE YOUR THEORIES SM ❤❤❤

  • @kozumi5889
    @kozumi5889 14 днів тому +21

    So Vein is rich, some kind of sociopath, cannibal(?) and he can enter people's dreams
    That's it I'm opening a fanclub

    • @duca_4951
      @duca_4951 7 днів тому +1

      Ok Hannibal Lecter😭
      Watch Hannibal you'd love it

    • @kozumi5889
      @kozumi5889 6 днів тому +1

      @duca_4951 there is one problem though
      Hannibal Lecter isn't hot anime guy 😭

  • @isadorae9551
    @isadorae9551 14 днів тому +18

    Very nice! I like how all we know about timeline is from Lu Guang and a little from Liu Xiao. How much of this is from a biased perspective? How much Lu Guang knows, and how much is he /assuming/?
    I pity him a lot, but he'll def need to tell CXS 😢

  • @crystallite8233
    @crystallite8233 4 дні тому +2

    "Remember, memory is key."

  • @clappite191919
    @clappite191919 10 днів тому +3

    I love the detailed observation on the series! Like, as much as I try to keep track of their rides back in time, the whole timeline and memory/dreams thing just adds both confusion but also clarity. Looking forward to the future episodes and your take on them!

  • @îts_ARID
    @îts_ARID 14 днів тому +5

    I can't get enough of this channel already 😭😭

  • @îts_ARID
    @îts_ARID 14 днів тому +6

    The chibi avtar is so cute !! also....OMG WTF THIS I GENIUS BRO LIKE THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE LIKE-
    literally love this video

    • @hyperfaexation
      @hyperfaexation  13 днів тому

      AHHH THANK YOU SO MUCH im really glad you liked it ;u;

  • @Anqiqil
    @Anqiqil 13 днів тому +16

    in ep 3 when lu guang and cheng xiaoshi were handing the ISBN code, there was a string of numbers 22229454647453, and if you plug it into the 9 square chinese keyboard, it says ‘爸爸已经死了“, meaning "dad has already died", meaning maybe Cheng Xiaoshi's dad is dead and he was the one who burned in that burning building?

    • @hyperfaexation
      @hyperfaexation  13 днів тому +1

      Yes!! This discovery was made over on my reddit thread of my number findings in ep3 *o*! There are several numbers in the episode I've yet to decode just yet, but I'll update everywhere when I do :)
      The "dad has already died" message is so concerning to me...

  • @anaelisajacobo9328
    @anaelisajacobo9328 14 днів тому +8

    That was very interesting, thanks for sharing it. I can't wait for the next episode to see

  • @theratsinyourattic
    @theratsinyourattic 12 днів тому +2

    These were actually such awesome theories, I think you’re really onto something here!

  • @gin1924
    @gin1924 14 днів тому +6

    7:55 real. Interesting thoughts non the less. Can't wait for next video.

    • @hyperfaexation
      @hyperfaexation  13 днів тому +2

      you can never be too confident in a link click theory bc this series is simply too insane v__v

    • @gin1924
      @gin1924 13 днів тому +1

      @hyperfaexation true. I love how the twits are usually not crazy absurd stiff, but still unexpected and mind-blowing, and make so much sense looking back. Good writing is rare these days.
      Most shows go for sensational stuff, Link Click is telling it's own story and relies more on makeing you feel real stuff deeply rather than dumping on you the most horrendous atrocities you'll never have a real connection to.
      Kind of undoes the desensitization we have nowadays.

  • @tinierboo
    @tinierboo 14 днів тому +4

    I love your theories!! And the video quality with the visuals is really nice :)

  • @unibear6372
    @unibear6372 9 днів тому +2

    Now count how many crows or birds and cats in the background. They be creeping and watching I swear.

    • @hyperfaexation
      @hyperfaexation  8 днів тому

      @@unibear6372 I’ve been wondering if they tie back to Liu Xiao somehow! His animal is an owl and I’ve been wondering if we are seeing representations of a “birds eye view” throughout the arc as a reference to both him and ‘the eye’

  • @annabna
    @annabna 13 днів тому

    PLEASE KEEP MAKING THESE i’m obsessed w your theories and observations 😻😻

  • @awesomephoenix9515
    @awesomephoenix9515 13 днів тому +2

    wow! Amazing theory! I've watched both of your videos on link click and it really puts the show in a different perspective. Hope you do more theories like this, I'm looking forward to it! Subscribed!

  • @pixelchu
    @pixelchu 8 днів тому +3

    Cooked with the theory. Honestly a lot of the series goes over my head and I’m just in for the ride.
    I didn’t catch the butterfly effect with Qiao Ling and martial arts.

  • @Novaurawr
    @Novaurawr 5 днів тому

    Nice vid 👍 keep it up 👌 hope your channel grows

  • @_RYTHM1CA
    @_RYTHM1CA 14 днів тому +2

    I love your videos they are so yummy and without them my understanding of this all would not be the same! Thank you so much ☺️

    • @hyperfaexation
      @hyperfaexation  14 днів тому +2

      AAAA thank you!!! i tried to be as clear as i could without nerding out on the art history side too much >

  • @flowers_for_maeve
    @flowers_for_maeve 12 днів тому

    Maybe it's just because this is the first Link Click theory video I've watched, but I feel like you are a genius and I want to experience Link Click like you do---

  • @gisdete8337
    @gisdete8337 10 днів тому

    Me loving link click so much i ended up watching each video essay about it

  • @NamiiWavee
    @NamiiWavee 14 днів тому +3

    Link click theorists have my heart and soul❤

  • @shiibagorou
    @shiibagorou 14 днів тому +3

    sorry the persona music in the back is sending me but also let bestie COOK

    • @hyperfaexation
      @hyperfaexation  14 днів тому +1

      @@shiibagorou i have to pay tribute to my roots ofc 😌💕💕

  • @theratsinyourattic
    @theratsinyourattic 7 днів тому +1

    Okay so buckle up I started thinking on this theory more and realized it fit really well into a theory that I had had been ruminating on for a while now so I finally wrote out all the details for it. Although most of it agrees with your conclusions, there is one slight contradiction.
    I was originally thinking about the “death node” concept that LG constantly references, where certain nodes like death cannot be changed under any circumstances, and how it seemed to be inconsistent in the story. In some cases, CXS’s actions seemed to have directly caused or prevented a certain person’s death, while in others, he could do nothing to save them. When I looked at what was different between those two types of cases, I found that in the former, CXS did not KNOW of that person’s fate when he made a change in the past, like when he saved Doudou from what was likely his death, but never confirmed to be. In the latter, CXS could not change a fate that he already knew of, like the deaths from the earthquake or Emma’s final death. My theory is that “fate” and “nodes” in this story are similar to the Schrödinger’s cat thought experiment, which says that a cat that is completely enclosed in a box and cannot be seen by anyone outside of that box exists in two contradictory states (in this case life and death) until someone looks into the box and becomes aware of the cat’s fate, either alive OR dead. Transferring it over to Link Click, my theory is that the time between when the photo was taken and when CXS dives into the photo in the present coincides with the “box.” Fate is fluid and undefined inside of this “box” and the only things that cannot be changed are the things that ARE defined- known facts and certainties based on future events. CXS can alter any event within that “box” as long as he has not already seen a future outcome that contradicts that change. This would also explain why certain large events become “nodes,” because you can’t really avoid knowing about something that was broadcast on the news or has a direct effect on your life. Here’s how I kinda thought about it for all of the cases that specifically involve death:
    Overall cases- the changes that the duo make when they take certain missions never change known outcomes. The intel they gather or alterations they make don’t affect the time from that past event to the present day, they only use that knowledge to affect future events. With the noodle lesbians, CXS’s actions in the past didn’t change the fate of their restaurant or prevent their friendship from falling out, it only allowed him to gain information that he then relayed back in the present. Although this information caused a change in the future, it only affected the time AFTER the dive, prevent any sort of paradox. The same is true in the Earthquake case, his messages didn’t alter the timeline because everyone who would have known about it died shortly after. The only real “change” made was the saving of the camera, which was not something that CXS originally knew about. His actions of saving the camera didn’t change reality from “the camera was destroyed” to “the camera was saved,” it simply just made the camera being saved a fact.
    Emma case- the known “certainty” was of Emma’s death after CXS learned of Liu Min’s actions. When he finally learned of Emma’s death by diving into the surveillance footage, Emma’s death was set in stone, and none of his actions were able to change that outcome. However, it could be argued that CXS’s actions are the sole cause of her death in the first place, which would also seemingly violate the “death node” principle. CXS sending the text that night was what led to future events that wouldn’t have occurred without his interference, eventually leading to Emma’s death. Yet, this was before we knew of Emma’s future. CXS was not aware of whether she lived or died after the fact, and so he was able to make that change.
    Doudou case- we didn’t know doudou’s fate when the case was presented, and we never learned of if he would have lived or died without CXS’s intervention. Realistically in that situation, we could expect that Doudou would have been killed, but it was SPECIFICALLY CXS’s actions that caused his kidnapper to keep Doudou alive and turn herself in years later. This would seem like a direct violation of the “node” principle, since CXS’s are what CAUSED future events to occur, seemingly changing fate, but since we didn’t know of Doudou’s fate, can we really say that? CXS altered the kidnapper’s unknown actions, but didn’t affect any known events from that point leading up to the current day (like if he had returned Doudou in the past before they had even gotten the case, which would have created a paradox)
    Xu Shanshan case- so there were really two phases to this case, first was the actual case they got hired for, which was to find out what Dong Yi said when Xu Shanshan blacked out. Yet again, CXS’s actions were the direct cause of a later event, in this case Xu Shanshan’s ambush after being on the news. But those events were not something that CXS knew about before making changes to the past. Besides knowing of the party and that she blacked out, CXS did not know any other details of that night, including whether or not she had actually ran into that one creep. The second part of the case is Xu Shanshan being attacked by Liu Min. The key point here is that CXS did not know whether or not Xu Shanshan had died when she was attacked, since LG’s view of the situation cut off right before she was stabbed. Therefore, he was able to change unknown there with actions that would allow her to live. He was not altering a pre-written fate, simply filling in that blank with a desirable outcome.
    If this is true, then honestly LG might have a chance at saving CXS yet… maybe. Based on all that I just said, we might assume that LG’s knowledge of CXS’s death will prevent him from ever being able to change it, as he knows every future outcome regarding CXS’s fate. However, in all of CXS’s dives so far, he has always at some point left the “box” to go back to his original time. LG does not seem to be doing this. He’s going back in time and then seemingly staying within that new timeline forever, or at least until he fails to save CXS and needs to reset once again. Instead of rewriting select chapters before jumping back to the current one, he’s actually just ripping all pages out after a certain point in order to write a completely new story. By never leaving his “box,” he can theoretically change fate however much he wants, as he never learns of the true outcomes of his actions. Although this interpretation might give some hope for a happy ending, there could be other problems that arise from his continual changes to the timeline. Could his actions be damaging himself or the timeline in some way? Just how many times will he be able to reset the timeline in the event he fails to save CXS? What happens if he’s kicked out of the past and forcibly returned to the present, like what happened with CXS when Li Tianchen took control of LG while CXS was possessing him? Will that undo all of the changes he’s made up until that point?
    And yes I did just spend 3+ hours writing this all out in my notes app.

    • @hyperfaexation
      @hyperfaexation  7 днів тому +1

      @theratsinyourattic Ok I plan on ruminating on this for a bit longer before I write out a more fleshed out reply, but I really think you’re onto something here.
      I’ve always found it interesting that the Doudou and Xu Shanshan cases are left ambiguous since both instances would otherwise likely be recognized as moments preventing death nodes, and I feel that your Schrödinger’s Box comparison makes a lot of sense with this. It has a sort of “if a tree falls in a forest, does it really make a sound” kind of logic in a way: if the fate of something is unknown, how can that fate be declared as a fact?
      I’d also like to say that calling them the noodle lesbians made me laugh because that’s genuinely exactly what my friends and I call them dhsjdhsjdhd
      Like I said, I will probably return to reply with more well thought out ideas once I finish rotating this in my brain like a gas station hotdog >_>” That being said, you absolutely COOKED here and i’m honored that my video inspired you to write this out 🥹🥹

    • @theratsinyourattic
      @theratsinyourattic 7 днів тому +1

      @ oh my god thank you so much you have no idea how happy this makes me 🥹 Your theories really helped my flesh out my theory more and I’m just so happy that there are other people in the Link Click community to bounce theories off of, I enjoy learning from and building off of different ideas as it really helps with my general understanding of the story even outside of future predictions. I’m really happy you liked my theory, as well as the noodle lesbians bit haha- my sister and I have been calling them that forever because I mean how lease were we supposed to interpret that episode 🤨
      I’ve loved your videos so far and can’t wait to see more Link Click content. Keep making these awesome theories ❤️

    • @theratsinyourattic
      @theratsinyourattic 6 днів тому

      @@hyperfaexation Heyo it’s me again- I have continued falling down this theorizing rabbit hole and have compiled a few more pieces of my boxed time theory so I’ll just post them here:
      When LG is guiding CXS, he always informs him of key details directly before they happen. He tells CXS directly of the stuff that needs to stay set in stone, and any of the changes we have seen so far have been when LG either didn’t know of or didn’t inform him of a certain detail (like when CXS sent the text as LG was sleeping, or LG also not knowing Doudou or Xu Shanshan’s fate). This could also possibly explain why LG has always seemed so panicked when CXS goes into a photo alone, as CXS is already changing the past BEFORE either of them know of certain outcomes. LG always looks into a photo before sending CXS in so that he knows of all of the minute details of that past, with the only exceptions I can think of being when CXS got in Liu Min’s car and in Bridon Arc ep4 where CXS accidentally dove into the photo before LG could look into it. Both times, LG freaked out and asked CXS what he did in the photo, possibly because he wouldn’t know what had been changed since he hadn’t seen the original. All of the original events of that photo would be considered“unknowns” to both of them, and so the reality of the situation could’ve been almost entirely based on CXS’s actions.
      I’m not sure entirely if the changeable “unknowns” are only based on what the diver knows or if it also takes into account other people’s memories. Like if LG knew of a certain result but CXS didn’t, would it still be counted as an “unknown” that CXS could affect?
      On the completely opposite end of the spectrum, the only cases that would be COMPLETELY set and unchangeable would be if you knew every single detail of every event, for example, your own past. The only instance we have seen so far of somebody diving back into their own past has been what LG is currently doing, CXS only ever went back as someone else or created another copy of himself via security camera. It’s possible this is intentionally omitted. If my theory is correct, then CXS going back to his own past would prevent him from making any changes and would possibly prove the correlation between reality and memories. LG, however, HAS seen subtle changes despite being inside his own fully-remembered past, which would contradict the theory that someone’s memories determine reality EXCEPT if there was some significance to him never returning to his original timeline. If he never leaves the photo, his previous memories will likely be overwritten, meaning that there is no known “outcome” that fate must adhere to.
      This whole theory is still very much under development, and so I just wanted to share any new changes I make to it somewhere so that they don’t all just stay rotting inside my head lol.

    • @hyperfaexation
      @hyperfaexation  6 днів тому +1

      @theratsinyourattic ok will reply fully momentarily but i wanna say you're my new favorite commenter

    • @hyperfaexation
      @hyperfaexation  6 днів тому +1

      @theratsinyourattic YOU'RE COOKING SO HARD THIS JUST BLEW MY MIND.
      *Spoilers for episode 4 ahead, so if you haven't seen the newest episode, don't read past here.*
      In episode 5, CXS dives back into the photo by accident, something that LG is entirely surprised by. If we are going by what you say here, this instance would allow him to unintentionally change the fate of what happened in the photograph, which could explain why we have the two survivors teased in the op and why LG is so stressed about asking him what he did while in the photograph. If the death nodes weren't able to be changed, LG would have no reason to be so stressed about what happened during CXS's dive into the fire.
      You have given me SO much to think about oh my *god* I feel like im having one of those Breath of the Wild memory cutscenes right now but the entire series is playing behind my eyes as I think this through...
      If you have any more theories you're welcome to add me on Discord or Twitter! My discord is @faeblefiction and my Twitter is @hyperfaexation

  • @User735-q5m
    @User735-q5m День тому

    A theory I heard was in order for lu guang to save Cheng xiaoshi they can not meet/know each other so my poor baby will be alone😭😭

  • @SapphirePyro
    @SapphirePyro 10 днів тому +1

    I'm not sure if I fully understood it 🤔
    Do you mean, in a nutshell, the timelines in Link Click are somewhat messy because of Lu Guang's memory gaps? And he might even be confusing dreams with memories because he's not seeking therapy? 🫠
    In any case, what you shared in the video are very interesting 🤩 Thank you for sharing 🫶
    And I totally didn't notice that eye rug 😱
    I don't wanna think about what it might mean 🫠

  • @unibear6372
    @unibear6372 9 днів тому

    My theory is… Vein is actually Jack the Ripper and Felix’s his little bastard/prince

  • @Kumra_
    @Kumra_ 12 днів тому

    ok so i want to give you two new ideas or at least some inspo
    ql in the seventh episode of the first season it takes place three years ago she sees chx and mentions he is supposed to be out of the country and be back a week before summer vacation this kinda gives us a timeframe of yingdu DELETING U MENTIONED IT I DPNT AS HHRRRRR
    the other one is since lg is the only one who has cat pupils, at the end of episode 3 the fucked up earthquake episode chen xiao, the customer, also has cat pupils. Not in the past, when chx is in him but when he and his dad are visiting his mothers grave there is a shot of his eyes and they are the same color as lgs they are normally brown(it might be just color theory and im crashing out) and he has cat pupils
    idk maybe unimportant but could help