@wnttalk My brother....every point you made was logical and true....but every time you tried to show a man's point of you and our grievances to the ladies....its a repeat of ( well it's men's fault for this or that or why the are on the circumstances we are in). I'm starting to lose hope with our sisters and our community as a whole of ever coming together.
I understand the problem you're having right now. See the issue is that you guys haven't found a way to defend the traditional family unit. The women don't see the value in traditional roles so what you should have done was call their bluffs. Ask them would they like to start paying for dates and be told to wait for sex?? Their like kids who don't understand the reason why parents make rules so when they grew up they decided to not follow the rules their parents taught them to live easy, peaceful and prosperous lives but they're surprised when their lives end up the opposite chaotic, no surety and the future is unclear. The parents rules represent the traditional values passed down generation to generation and these women are like the rebellious children who don't value traditional values or the parents rules
@wnttalk bro you gotta stop letting them say it goes both way, we really have to give parameters around who's doing what so we know who to hold accountable for what. If you say it goes both ways their not gonna receive the message. I have a gf you have to talk to them like man does a women and they don't think rationally. They don't care what you say even if you're right, the only way for them to get the point Is if they switch roles.
Trying to have an enlightened, thoughtful, intellectual conversation with the panel of women is absolutely grating. It is obvious that they didn't hear a single word that was said. Their answers are typical of women listening to respond instead of listening to engage in a good faith discussion.
The level of patience from this man throughout this session of intentionally misunderstanding, deflecting, and mental gymnastics to make it seem as if his analogies & metaphors didn't somehow make sense or add up is WILD. Salute to you sir!
WNTT I commend you first for being who you are and for what you are trying to do. At my age I am not one to be so patient with the state of things in our community in these times. Again, I applaud and appreciate you. Keep up the good work. Cheers!
These conversation are sad, frustrating and disappointing. I've learned that when you talk to people that are set on not trying to understand you, it is a complete waste of time! How do we fix this problem when it falls on death ears smh
This conversation was cringe for a couple of reasons... They didn't want to absorb the information from the start AND the well thought out and simple analogies went clear over their heads. This is why men would rather not (in general) have these talks with our women. They go NOWHERE! It's so frustrating and disappointing.
@@RKG5A5 Men can close their legs too, God expects both unmarried men & women to close their legs. I'm tired of these videos with men talking with women blaming, excuse making & manipulating. God did not bless women with the power of leadership or the genius to shape & subdue the earth! God created women to "COMPLEMENT" a man; meaning to add or enhance what he's already worked to create. It doesn't mean coddle the man. It doesn't mean parent the man, provide for the man and build the man from the ground up! Why don't these sorry, manipulative black men talk to each other about something other than bw, sex & women? Talk with other men about male aspirations, spirituality, male standards, male expectations! Ask what do you seek to achieve? Stop blaming bw--- its manipulation at this point. Successful, well adjusted men can be married, single, divorced or even chaste. Men can be successful w/o women that's the way God planned. So why is a woman's to blame when you lose? That's crap. When a man has developed his leadership & his full potential he will exude power; he will get respect. He will attract women, who will follow him. A woman was created to be the cherry topping the masterpiece. She doesn't have all the answers! Black men need to work on getting rid of their slave mind and developing the God mind then, he can tap into God energies to shape & control his environment, lead his community & shape his destiny. We are made to glorify God & reflect God on earth. Put those energies, gifts & intelligence to work! If you want a Queen be a King! Don't expect a queen to marry a janitor! Smh. As, parents, our boys need, identity, purpose, guidance & direction else, they grow up to become lost men. Its never too late to start over.
This was physically painful to watch. The facial expressions, the denial, the constant saying that we give you grace whilst denying Allen or his points any grace. It was agonising. Imagine being married to this. This is the problem. Anyway, igbo kwenu as always
Trying to have an enlightened, thoughtful, intellectual conversation with the panel of women is absolutely grating. It is obvious that they didn't hear a single word that was said. Their answers are typical of women listening to respond instead of listening to engage in a good faith discussion.
Which is why panels like this don’t make sense. Caveat: If it’s to showcase and expose behavior…cool, but if it’s an attempt at meaningful discourse why even bother.
KS told ya'll about SIGN language, but the Need to Be Right is by far the strongest force. I would be pulling the hair out my head having to deal with these women.
That whole entire conversation that this panel just had is a complete display of why the black community would never ever get it together. Not one of those ladies listened to grasp an understanding of what the issues are. Every last one of them listened just to respond.
The reason this conversation seems pointless is because the people on the panel aren’t dating each other. They are strangers trying to explain things from their personal experiences in dating and relationships. It’s an individual experience for each of them. This is not a community conversation because these people have no connection in real life.
I’m a black woman and I total agree and I’m definitely not a “pick me” but I’m sick of some of my sisters too.. rocking back and forth like a crazy person speaks volumes.. She never heard anything just so amped up in her body to be argumentative she can’t even keep still.. I don’t even communicate with women when they are jumping out of their skin to just talk and not listen.. Please men don’t generalize us im around other amazing black women who are sick of it too making all of us look bad
Had a woman tell me that I didn't know how to express my feelings. Then once I did, she said "awww, what's wrong, you're in your feelings?" 🙄 Bish go away from me....😆
This conversation is why I kinda stop talking to women about certain things because it's a dead end. Allen: women became masculine because of men's failure and situations. ( Put some of the blame on men for why things the way they are.) Allen: Men act the way they act because those dudes are the ones that get chose and rewarded in our culture. (Nope that's on you guys competing) like what in the actual fuck. Or you guys reward by mate selection dudes that actually move a particular way to be a solid husband. This is the grace he's talking about.
It's always men's responsibility. That's why men HAVE to be in charge. They will always blame you, even if you had nothing to do with something, so you should be the one to make all the rules.
#Problem: Having these discussions in a *point for point* format isn't the most effective way because it fosters a debate and competitive (need to be right) atmosphere; which in turn triggers women to emotionally react... #Solution: Arguing point for point is like pouring fuel on fire. You kill fires by letting them burn themselves out of oxygen, NOT by giving them fuel. How do we do this practically? One way is the socratic method... Itscomplicated, on his youtube channel employs it masterfully and has demonstrated it to be the best way to get women thinking through discussions INSTEAD of feeling through them... Telling women what the truth is, is akin to giving a man a fish; whereas asking them the right questions socratically is akin to teaching them to fish. If men employ and master the socratic method, they will make women fight their own logic & emotions themselves as opposed to what we have currently (the women fighting the men)... #Synopsis: We have been going about our communication with women the wrong way. They aren't wired to be linear in their reasoning like men, so getting them from point A to B in a linear way feels unnatural & uncomfortable for them, especially with triggering topics. Men trying to talk to women how they talk to men is a recipe for chaos, frustration & insanity. It's counterintuitive, but women reason better through questioning rather than through direct answers... Only give direct consice answers to their direct consise questions but when it comes to explaining things to them, socratic questions yield bet results than long winded explainations their emotional state can easily tune out off... When you ask the right question & they hear the answer in their own voice (in their heads), they are more likely to believe it than if they heard the same answer in a man's voice. It's kind of backwards & solipsist l know, but that's how they are in emotionally volatile situations. We can only ADAPT and find ways to remedy it or let communication DIE. Just as "the game is to be sold, not told" with women, *the truth is to be coaxed, not told...*
I caught that to. The one in the camera hasn’t listened to understand shit. She was listening to respond and argue! Not worth the aggravation. She never listened even when she asked him a question.
This man's patience is INFINITE. How he continues to attempt to educate women about men only for it to consistently go over their heads time and time again is INSANE
Its not about "educating women about men" Its about black men rising to develop themselves to become leaders, providers & builders. Lead the relationship. The woman you intend to marry is the only woman, who cares and needs to understand you. That comes with time & building intimacy in a committed relationship. Random women owe you nothing.
You know when I see videos such as this I often wonder if the Brown (black) who watching are really listening to what these two brothers are saying in full! Like one you say accountability right we’ll let me give you some that you are not willing to take! 1. Whatever our women are is the direct results of our failure as Brown (black) men they are the way they are because we are not leaders in our communities we are not protectors in our communities we do not build businesses in our communities we do not lead our women and children in our communities! In every other race of men in their communities they are all of these things! That’s why you do not see any other race of men having these little boy cry baby conversation! We have to take accountability for everything the Brown (black) community is and isn’t it is our failures that our communities are in the condition that they are in its high time we man the fuck up and stop with this weak winning shit you boys are doing ask a man of a different race what he thought about the winning Brown (black) men are doing in these videos! They are laughing their asses off at us! Shake back brother go speak with your grand father and stop listening to guys who couldn’t get women until they had this podcast what real information can he give you in Highschool the girl they liked didn’t like them and it fucked them up till this day hence the THE PODCAST! 😂
Western society is OVER! Their is no coming back. This is why I value my peace and sanity at all cost, even if it means I lose all my family members my friends and if my children don’t communicate with me ever again.
There will be a correction. There always is. Stock market crashes...it recovers and reaches new heights....then it crashes again and returns to normal, whatever the new normal is. If wmn stop being reasonable, men will leave. It's going that way now with the passport bros. Correction is coming.
Not even going to lie. I’ve noticed that whenever the man start talking, the women start to chuckle on the side, laugh and even sit the men off. This is childish behavior.
@jayg1060 I mean it's one of the many reasons they're the lowest married and the highest divorced. What they talk about is clearly working for them. But hey, who am i
@@allenbrady8083BOYYY! “AND YOU KNOW THIS MAN!!! They so disrespectful. That’s why they are the LEAST desired. It will remain that way. All the chuckling and sneaky laughing on the side. Disrespectful.
BOTH genders have to either change, compromise, or acquiesce when in a romantic relationship, not just men. And only controlling, manipulative ppl want you to stop being what it took to attract them. If they're insecure, time to break up!
I'm 40, technically a "xennial"...but raised more old school by boomer parents. I'm telling you this...most of you guys are wasting time with most of these women. They aren't gonna change until catastrophe hits. I thank God I got a wife who is aware of feminist influence throughout the whole of society, BUT understands WHY she should reject it. 🙌🙌🙌🙌
I am an Generation Xer. We learn in the 80s and 90s that women were in full on rebellion and they've continued to do so. Modern black women are irredeemable. They're not worth the trouble trying to come to hand, peaceful resolution because they can be none. They're too busy trying to be man, and a can't handle the competition. They're operating outside their nature and their wonder why they are failing. And they wonder why we don't want them anymore.
My advice to these men is move how you want and find women that add or get with the program. Lead and wife the who will follow and compliment the vision
@melissanicole3657 SMH....says the person who doesn't know what "change" means in the context of modern women. Comprehension is what happens when the words don't just go into an empty barrel and roll around. So is it us guys who need to work on communication, or is it you? Listening and comprehension go hand in hand. BTW, I'm happily married to a beautiful woman who isn't a socially engineered fembot, we have 3 kids, worked together to create family businesses, and we communicate in superb fashion. I know what I'm talking about. Parents married over 40 years, grandparents married over 70 years. That doesn't happen by accident.
These panels are pointless because the men running them are trying to have conversations instead of forcing the participants to think and challenging them with questions. Women have survived by thinking a certain way. Y’all are trying to fight against millions of years of female biology. You will never win.
This man stayed on point, was patient, and showed extreme grace the entire time while continually being met with side points, SIGN language, and zero accountability... Hats off to this man! Period.
None of these women wanted to listen to any points the men were making. They only listened to respond and tell the panel how they felt in the different discussions. Also they did a lot of deflecting and pointing the finger back at men.
Trying to have an enlightened, thoughtful, intellectual conversation with the panel of women is absolutely grating. It is obvious that they didn't hear a single word that was said. Their answers are typical of women listening to respond instead of listening to engage in a good faith discussion.
@bigsteve3530 yeah it was ridiculous. Just the idea of so many woman really believing that they know better and are smarter and wiser than men....that just tells me everything I need to know every time. They speak with such confidence SMH. Out of order, natural order.
This man is a soldier on the front lines. Catching strays. Laying on grenades. I feel like he recruited opps for this conversation. There's a difference between disagreeing and having a different POV; there was a lack of active listening. A lot of waiting to speak.
We're wasting time. "You only gain the understanding you seek." I think this conversation proves that it's time for this generation to go our separate ways and allow each others' absence make our hearts grow fond enough to seek the understanding of one another.
0:52 I decided long ago that if a woman can’t be held accountable for her actions she ain’t for me. If you are a grown woman you should be able to accept your faults and not project. When you are wrong you are wrong. Been married for 28+ years and my wife understands I’m a loving man but I don’t play when it comes to childish crap.
13:13 Bro had to fight for his life to make his way to his point about grace 😭 Every call for empathy is met with a whataboutism two-wrongs-make-a-right response. Men can't share their pain without women throwing theirs in his face, even if he didn't cause it 😔
@@ShaniquaJwest This is what we experience on a daily basis with black women. They are never responsible for anything and they are always right. But they complain a lot on the networks and share their hatred. It's really a shame to see that we end up losing all attraction by seeing this kind of behavior.
That's their go-to phrase 🤣. Bw, once they've gotten money and status, will look down on the janitor....oh "he" needs to level up to me, bs. But men, once they've achieve success, will go to Burger King and date and marry the cashier! It's that point, that these women can't grasp.
Facts. They think they can be all things to all people at once. A great employee, a perfect girlfriend, a loving mother and a loose whore when it suits them not knowing that all the mental qualities it takes to be good at each of those things individually cannot co-exist inside the same mind at the same time without causing a degree of mental illness that manifests as chaotic, incoherent lines of thinking aka delusion.
As a woman who is 49 and married for 23 years, I really wanted the ladies to be humble and listen. I have single friends who have the same complaint. Every relationship is made of 2 flawed people committed to working together. It took me 10 years of letting down my wall of pride to pay attention to his history and their own. I have to put my pride down daily to communicate with someone who took time to trust me to communicate with. It's a long patient process.
Every relationship is not a blk female's faut because this supposed bad attitude we have in our dna. He is basically implying most blk women have a bad attitude and don't look mixed race or good looking enough to get a black CEO which is problematic but could be true but it's mostly due to black men not liking black womens features and also them trying to humble and make sure black women don't aim high but a woman who makes 200k or even 100k a year should be dating a man at who at the least 90k to 100k and 150k-17k to her 200k anyless and he is really only dating her to come up
are these women dumb? BW are more educated yet you suggesting they don't understand how to evaluate the situations in which they are dating. BM hate working on their wounds because they might look like simps in their bromances.
The men appeared to be in the conversation to bring enlightenment. The women looked like they were trying to *_win_* the conversation. You can look on their faces and *_see_* the women listening to respond as opposed to listening to comprehend. The whole discussion looked like a game of one-upmanship on the ladies' part.
Him: the sky is blue, so I try to accurately portray it in my paintigs for my clients Her: thats the situation you made for yourself with other artists 🤦🏾♂️
The moment she said: “*Who told him to pick up the guitar?*” I knew that the analogy went right over her head, she has conversations to hear herself talk, and she’s definitely the: “*I AM THE TABLE!!!*” type of woman. 🤦🏾♂️😖🤯
I don't know why you guys are wasting time with these women. 80% of BW didn't grow up with a father, so they don't know how to respect male Authority. You gotta search deep and wide for one of the 20% who had a dad or date out where non blk women on average had a father in the home 75% of the time
In all honesty, my hubby said this to me the other day 'women don't know what they want' and I had to think bout that statement for a while and I wholeheartedly agree. A woman says she wants a sensitive man but will belittle him and show less respect (this is based off what I've seen in my own family and friend circle), they don't care about a man's status but will push a man to become 'better' financially so they can maintain the consumer lifestyle that is programmed into us. We do have selective hearing I agree so I have learned to listen to alot more although I'm very introverted and quiet in our relationship it's definitely a skill we women need to develop to maintain a healthy relationship/marriage. Great conversation though the same issues are prevalent in the UK too it's a shame. x
After listening to this conversation for 10 minutes had to turn the volume down and go straight to the comments for common sense release. It's amazing how patient this dude is.
This happens in real time. I had a woman tell me she is superior. On our second date I push the check over to her. Sooo are you not superior now, be superior and pay for this date. She said I will pay but if I do you will not see me anymore. It's was $30. We just stopped for wings. Men let her be superior early so you will not waste your time. If I paid the relationship continued but I was dismissed for $30 bucks. Modern Women
@@ramalellison9205the way I look at it, you gotta have some type of value to date women in any country. Get your value up and go to a family oriented country
@@wills.9422 it had to!! Especially if he truly cared as I believe he did. The money was great as we know but it essentially took his life. He had to care because advocating for marriage in the west goes against the betterment of men imo. I understood his mission but why would any man risk it all on these women??? Why
@@TheMatrixofMeaningso if it's a waste off time why you here leave us sistas alone I rather die alone I'm sick and tired off these cry babies find love when the other races stop crying grow up stop complaining it's a duck ng broken record I'm sick off black bozos
BM are the most hateful. We BW aren't waiting for you to become a good man. More BW are walking away from y'all and living happier lives. Y'all go get the silky haired Asians, Latins, and white women. BM, live your best lives. Get y'all knees off our necks.
This was such a painful watch. Oh my daysss. This man has a god level patience to continue to educate and deity level grace not to make fun of their cluelessness.
you are a masterclass in communication. you’re intuitive, you read the room and you choose your words carefully. and you actually listen to what is being said and respond accordingly. it makes me sad that you didn’t receive the same courtesy of being listened to. you can very visibly see a tuning out in the body language throughout the video. i had this conversation with my mother, father and aunt recently and it was the very same response and even more vehement. i even asked “okay so you can list all the flaws of men in relationships but what are some of the shortcomings of women in them?” … i got nothing. the messaging remains the same: women are inherently good. any that aren’t is the fault of men. men are faulty and unworthy by nature. any that aren’t is because of women. it’s an exhausting conversation but i’m glad you’re doing this work
@@tru_hart that's how It is speaking to most blk women and usually even the 1 that say they don't do this are the 1 that do it the most they are so used to being rude to blk men they don't even notice what they are doing
The guitar analogy was perfect. The guitar represents the things men and women have to engage in to attract the opposte sex. It's a fundamental of life and propagation. "But who told you to play the guitar" is about the single dumbest thing I've heard as a response in about 3 and a half months. When someone shows you their understanding of human interaction, metaphor, and basic...words is that poor, its time to stop communicating with them
Right. And how about the one where the man returned from war to find that his wife had created a child without him. No sympathy at all for his discovery. Instead of at least empathizing with the unfaithfulness, the women pivot to "well, he's probably got somebody on the side too."
Thank you I was thinking the same thing. As a bassist, that’s something that resonated with me. It was never about getting women, and more a out if I commit myself to discipline and growth it will lead to an inner confidence that will help improve my self confidence throughout all areas of my life. It acts as a positive reference point, much like a save point in a video game. It’s all about playing/learning and mastering the instrument, everything else is extra.
Yeah man that spot on especially the buck one too, like I’m not saying men are faultless, but women do play a part in the whole street nigga and etc thing because they “reward” those type of dudes far more than those that are opposite and usually alot do guys ain’t like that but will eventually try and be that due to how alot of women will react to them at a young age
It doesn’t work both ways I terms of expectations ~ MEN understand that if he works at McDonalds. He’s not getting a CEO of a major company ~ a regular man such as myself, I don’t have illusions(DELUSIONAL) of dating a celebrity or sliding in an influencers DM and having a chance at a relationship ~ Also one of the things Kevin Samuels talked about which is missed by many women, men typically hit their financial stride later in life. It is unreasonable and unrealistic for a man in his 20’s or early 30’s to be a CEO. They may make good money, but the expectations modern women have for men is simply unrealistic. Typically men know how to stay in there lane. We always have understood this. Women are stuck in a high school hope mentality ~ where they believe Prince Charming is waiting for them. … after they’ve had a child by another man…. or they’ve been riding the carousel, until they are ready to settle down.
Mr Samuals hated and bashed women of color. As a professional black woman, black men have treated me the worse. I tried to give a black man a chance and his attitude was so nasty. I have dated and been proposed to by white and Asian men so BM can't define my worth. More black men are killing black women. So many BM have so many baby mamas and can't afford one baby.
Men are delusional as well because when they reach their so called financial stride they believe that some young 20 something woman is now going to be available to them for molding. They walk away from the wife and mother of their children that was in their league when they had nothing. They say that she no longer has value because she has aged. Where is her grace and loyalty?
The "that could go for men too" is also a problem. Because it details the conversation from the focus which is women. When the talk is about men SOMEHOW we can keep it about men. Each woman pulls out an invisible scroll detailing why men ain't shit, no interruptions. As soon as the table turns to men talking about women all you hear is "yes but" ,"men too", "that's because" "who hurt you", "sassy this and that"
When he explained why women don’t understand why they aren’t attracting the man they want and she went “Well I feel like that goes for men too” She missed the entire effin point. And the chick at the end… “men need to share their feelings with women who will listen…” She spent like 5 minutes proving she doesn’t listen to men at all.
🫤 A whole lot of the responses to female critique were of the “but men too” variety. Never “guilty…we could work on that.” Always “every body has that problem” (and thus it’s not something that women in particular should give consideration).
Yeah especially when he was saying how the value systems of what men and women find attractive are just different, they kept making faces. 4:35 And I ain’t saying men don’t have faults but I’ve heard more men actually admit to thing men as a whole need to work on like “yeah we do do that” simple admission of the actions they do, but don’t hear that much from women it’s usually “we’ve been programmed by society…” and when u do criticize them it’s almost like they say “how dare you” almost it’s weird fr
Seeing stuff like this used to make me mad, but now I feel sorry for them. It seems like there is something blocking them from truly understanding men. As a result it hurts them from having better relationships with us.
Lastly, the problem with these conversations is linked to womens higher in-group bias. They come into conversations like this as "team woman" whereas the men are "team make sense and fix things". This is evidenced by the constant disagreement of any point Allen made, and all the "exactly"'s and head nids anytime a woman spoke. No concession, no grace, no soace for a man to express his perspective. Just "team woman" and finger pointing. Im beginning to wonder if there really is a point
I mean 🤦🏾♂️ maybe the ladies all independently found common ground (…in disagreeing with nearly any point that Allen was trying to make)? It’s possible. 🤷🏾♂️
and that brutha is by far perhaps the most articulate content creator in these spaces and notice his voice was the lowest amongst all of the women who were all demonstrably louder and more combative. If they respond like that to THIS cat, how well does that bode for the lesser affluent cat?
@@r2d187Allen proves "it's not the tone." I DO notice he has more success getting through in the one-on-one format. In panels, the hive mind takes over.
One of the reasons I love Allen's vintage format (one-on-one) is that the ladies are forced into Socratic dialogue and engagement. Panels on these topics lead to this hive mind dynamic, and the only way to combat is using the "Fresh & Fit" dunk-on-them techniques, which Allen thankfully doesn't deploy.
I just watched 1 minute and I'm pissed off and aggravated. These women have NO DESIRE to understand or work together... only to argue and be right... FFS
As soon as she came in with her "rigidity of roles" rhetoric, she exposed herself as disingenuous and rebellious. I accept none of their "patriarchy" propaganda. Men meeting this madness even half-way, are running nothing but a "fools errand".
I take my hat off to these Brothers continuing to have these discussions with Black Women. They are so disingenuous, selfish it is an utter waste of time having these discussions.
This is Great Content, it needs to be Discussed even More, the Unfortunate Truth is that Black Women, especially the Black women who are between 35- 50 in 2023 in just 5 years the dating market is bad now and We Can only imagine how Bad it will be for this group of Black women in the next 5 years!!!
Allen has all patience and stoicism infinity stones! Salute.! These types of conversations are healthy to watch so you can see the types ladies that can grasp nuance in a non combative manner.!
lol These conversations are pointless. His goals are admirable and respectable, but unless you can get these women to challenge their own beliefs, leading to changed behavior, what have you accomplished?
@@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13women will only respond to power nothing more trying to reason and guilt trip doesn’t work all it does is make you look weak
I hear this conversation and worry about my son. Im worried about him being around men raised solely by women and about the women who listen but only so they can talk. I've given up the concept of love but i don't want him to end up like me. Great show as always. Peace
I love my wife, its funny, sometimes I talk to her friends when they happen to visit and I try to talk to them about some of this stuff, wife included and what I've found is that, women dont listen as well as they think they do. Every time you drop a little knowledge that touches on their need to show insight, they instantly deflect. They dont hear. They just feel attacked. Tone doesnt matter, its the message that you are doing something wrong and you need to make an adjustment to get the result you want, but what they hear is "Im wrong and oh no no no, I'm not wrong, you're wrong because I was told that Im perfect" Its funny buy kinda sad.
This was frustrating to watch. Every point was met with a deflection or a derailment. It was like watching a man trying to fry an egg on a non-stick skillet while holding it sideways.
That buck with the big horns analogy was so potent. That concept represents what goes on in the hood USA, the prettiest women in the hood or projects ain’t going for the smartest, emotionally insightful men in the hood, they’re going for the richest, toughest, and feared men in the community, and we know what comes with that lifestyle. I’ve had a homies who felt like getting his reputation up in the hood for being a shooter would bring him WOMEN, not money or anything that could better him, but loose women who get wet from being around hell raisers and street niggas. Can we be honest an say it’s some method to that madness he was talking, that it’s a little bit of truth in that.
Yup. Our women LOVE them some felons and street dudes... till they age out that is. Then, its time for the reach back to the responsible brothers to help clean up pookies mess. Absolutely disgusting.
I was screaming "STOP THE 🧢!" on my way back to the yard listening to this. Just a series of "but men-but men-but men." Allen, these women are at an age where the absence of grace for men is their only frame of reference, so like flouride in water, they don't notice the absence. And the "men need to not aim so high, too." Jeez Louise! I knew at 18 (almost 51 now) I wasn't fu¢king Janet Jackson or Apollonia or Holly Robinson. There might be 50 men between them that have a "story" about them. There are literally THOUSANDS of women who have a "Drake story" or a "Weezy story," or in my day, a "Bobby Brown story." That's the difference. Men don't speak the language of "deserve," we speak the language of "earn." Nevertheless, always applaud your efforts, Allen. The brother speaking to young sisters growing up in a gynocracy about "playing with Barbies while we played with Tonka trucks" didn't help, though. It ain't 1978. These girls grew up watching normalized slut culture and videos of women squaring up on men. All that said, there's always one you get through to. That's the hope, anyway. But Rollo always said, on these matters, you cannot appeal to women's reason.
How is it possible to fail to understand a metaphor that badly? How is it possible to blame men for womens demands so casually? How is it possible to so easily amble away from the specifics of the topic to something irrelevant just to avoid the point being made? How do they so easily make his point about presumed benevolence and not giving men grace for him, whilst failing to see that they're doing it?
Because most women are incapable of looking at things at the macro level. They internalize every scenario and respond based on how they feel in that moment. They can't not make it about them lol
Women can be terrible empathizers & even worse at understanding metaphorical language. Their typical response is to then make a straw-man's argument by focusing on the least important detail & then somehow making it THE issue. Their mental gymnastics never cease to amaze.
@@r2d187 Thats y historically, men just dominated women and DIDN'T waste time debating them. The REAL fight is with American culture that SUPPORTS these BW in order to destroy the BM.
I’m still waiting for other men to realize that we need to take their “privileges” back. Women have proven time and again that they can’t handle responsibility, it’s time to take their choices away!!! I’ll wait for the rest of you to join us rational men!!
I’m 11mins in and what I gathered from the conversation is that these women and most women really don’t give a crap about what men need or what we talking about it’s sad. Like truly. I feel bad for the brotha cause he spent his time he’ll never get back talking to walls
The need to "all lives matter" when the spotlight was specially on women is a huge problem. It's ironic that when statements are made like "Black women are the most educated", we don't hear that same mentality like "but hey we've got a lot of black men that are educated too".
But it’s his fault for not leading them to understanding it better. Men must lead and women will naturally follow 🤭🤦🏾♂️🤭🤦🏾♂️…That’s some of the sentiments I have gotten from some of his content
Understanding the “why” in all of these conversations is vital. There are so many psychological layers to many of these topics, that running these topics through the “5 whys” is extremely necessary!
Thanks!
Hey Man, sorry I haven't watched the episode yet but I wanted to hit you with a thanks. ✌🏾
Thank you my brother 🙏🏿
@wnttalk My brother....every point you made was logical and true....but every time you tried to show a man's point of you and our grievances to the ladies....its a repeat of ( well it's men's fault for this or that or why the are on the circumstances we are in). I'm starting to lose hope with our sisters and our community as a whole of ever coming together.
I understand the problem you're having right now. See the issue is that you guys haven't found a way to defend the traditional family unit. The women don't see the value in traditional roles so what you should have done was call their bluffs. Ask them would they like to start paying for dates and be told to wait for sex?? Their like kids who don't understand the reason why parents make rules so when they grew up they decided to not follow the rules their parents taught them to live easy, peaceful and prosperous lives but they're surprised when their lives end up the opposite chaotic, no surety and the future is unclear. The parents rules represent the traditional values passed down generation to generation and these women are like the rebellious children who don't value traditional values or the parents rules
@wnttalk bro you gotta stop letting them say it goes both way, we really have to give parameters around who's doing what so we know who to hold accountable for what. If you say it goes both ways their not gonna receive the message. I have a gf you have to talk to them like man does a women and they don't think rationally. They don't care what you say even if you're right, the only way for them to get the point Is if they switch roles.
The need to be right is strong with this group of women.
Exactly..... Talking to them is like hitting the wall
SOFEWARE NEVER CHANGES
hardware maybe be different
it never fails, education level, age, size, status, they all use the same software
there is no 2.0.
Trying to have an enlightened, thoughtful, intellectual conversation with the panel of women is absolutely grating. It is obvious that they didn't hear a single word that was said. Their answers are typical of women listening to respond instead of listening to engage in a good faith discussion.
He's doing a lot of talking , it's over their heads majority of these ladies aren't for men.
Man! (All pun ⏸😂) shorty just kept saying “no” or would have a rebuttal as opposed to acknowledging what was said.
The level of patience from this man throughout this session of intentionally misunderstanding, deflecting, and mental gymnastics to make it seem as if his analogies & metaphors didn't somehow make sense or add up is WILD. Salute to you sir!
Preciate you brother!
This was beyond gaslighting
WNTT I commend you first for being who you are and for what you are trying to do. At my age I am not one to be so patient with the state of things in our community in these times. Again, I applaud and appreciate you. Keep up the good work. Cheers!
@@fastrecon1 yessir 🫡
Perfectly explained that was so frustrating to watch.
“We don’t know how to view men as victims. We don’t know how to view women as perpetrators”
Man, that hit me hard
Yea I agree
The theme of the 2010s and beyond
It's a valid point.
It's been this way in all of history for some reason
What is wrong with a woman asserting her views? Why is this seen as a problem?
This hurts my soul. No matter what he said, there was no acknowledgment of what he said. Deflection and dissection of the argument on every point.
And he kept fighting for the rights of others to also speak.
These conversation are sad, frustrating and disappointing. I've learned that when you talk to people that are set on not trying to understand you, it is a complete waste of time! How do we fix this problem when it falls on death ears smh
This conversation was cringe for a couple of reasons... They didn't want to absorb the information from the start AND the well thought out and simple analogies went clear over their heads. This is why men would rather not (in general) have these talks with our women. They go NOWHERE! It's so frustrating and disappointing.
You leave
@@RKG5A5 Men can close their legs too, God expects both unmarried men & women to close their legs. I'm tired of these videos with men talking with women blaming, excuse making & manipulating. God did not bless women with the power of leadership or the genius to shape & subdue the earth! God created women to "COMPLEMENT" a man; meaning to add or enhance what he's already worked to create. It doesn't mean coddle the man. It doesn't mean parent the man, provide for the man and build the man from the ground up! Why don't these sorry, manipulative black men talk to each other about something other than bw, sex & women? Talk with other men about male aspirations, spirituality, male standards, male expectations! Ask what do you seek to achieve? Stop blaming bw--- its manipulation at this point. Successful, well adjusted men can be married, single, divorced or even chaste. Men can be successful w/o women that's the way God planned. So why is a woman's to blame when you lose? That's crap. When a man has developed his leadership & his full potential he will exude power; he will get respect. He will attract women, who will follow him. A woman was created to be the cherry topping the masterpiece. She doesn't have all the answers! Black men need to work on getting rid of their slave mind and developing the God mind then, he can tap into God energies to shape & control his environment, lead his community & shape his destiny. We are made to glorify God & reflect God on earth. Put those energies, gifts & intelligence to work! If you want a Queen be a King! Don't expect a queen to marry a janitor! Smh. As, parents, our boys need, identity, purpose, guidance & direction else, they grow up to become lost men. Its never too late to start over.
This was definitely frustrating to watch
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This was physically painful to watch. The facial expressions, the denial, the constant saying that we give you grace whilst denying Allen or his points any grace. It was agonising. Imagine being married to this. This is the problem.
Anyway, igbo kwenu as always
SOFEWARE NEVER CHANGES
hardware maybe be different
it never fails, education level, age, size, status, they all use the same software
there is no 2.0.
Trying to have an enlightened, thoughtful, intellectual conversation with the panel of women is absolutely grating. It is obvious that they didn't hear a single word that was said. Their answers are typical of women listening to respond instead of listening to engage in a good faith discussion.
What's scarier is they dont have the feelings of denial, they genuinely believe this stuff. This is their truth
Which is why panels like this don’t make sense. Caveat: If it’s to showcase and expose behavior…cool, but if it’s an attempt at meaningful discourse why even bother.
They want men in touch with their feminine side. 😂😂😂
KS told ya'll about SIGN language, but the Need to Be Right is by far the strongest force. I would be pulling the hair out my head having to deal with these women.
Watching a lot of KS old work I now admire his patience more than ever and don’t understand how he did this night end and night out.
Yes. Lawd. Lol. 💯✌️
Didn't he die on top of a 304 😂😂😂
That whole entire conversation that this panel just had is a complete display of why the black community would never ever get it together. Not one of those ladies listened to grasp an understanding of what the issues are. Every last one of them listened just to respond.
That's top reason why so many brothers are getting passports and just saying eff it
Absolutely
Listening to respond
The reason this conversation seems pointless is because the people on the panel aren’t dating each other. They are strangers trying to explain things from their personal experiences in dating and relationships. It’s an individual experience for each of them. This is not a community conversation because these people have no connection in real life.
@@NinaBee1 you can talk in general ... I don't have to have a personal experience of nothing to know that 80% of black women are single mothers ...
That woman moving back and forth told me everything I needed to know about how this conversation was going to go.
She is waiting to talk not listening.
@@technofilejr3401 yep
@@technofilejr3401so what she doesn't have too 😂
I’m a black woman and I total agree and I’m definitely not a “pick me” but I’m sick of some of my sisters too.. rocking back and forth like a crazy person speaks volumes.. She never heard anything just so amped up in her body to be argumentative she can’t even keep still.. I don’t even communicate with women when they are jumping out of their skin to just talk and not listen.. Please men don’t generalize us im around other amazing black women who are sick of it too making all of us look bad
Had a woman tell me that I didn't know how to express my feelings. Then once I did, she said "awww, what's wrong, you're in your feelings?" 🙄 Bish go away from me....😆
@@ThetrueTeddyB WOWWWW
@@ThetrueTeddyB or they hit you with the “Oh I understand how you feel, BUT, I don’t feel that’s a good enough excuse honestly”
Bish deuces ✌🏾
This conversation is why I kinda stop talking to women about certain things because it's a dead end.
Allen: women became masculine because of men's failure and situations. ( Put some of the blame on men for why things the way they are.)
Allen: Men act the way they act because those dudes are the ones that get chose and rewarded in our culture. (Nope that's on you guys competing) like what in the actual fuck.
Or you guys reward by mate selection dudes that actually move a particular way to be a solid husband. This is the grace he's talking about.
SOFEWARE NEVER CHANGES
hardware maybe be different
it never fails, education level, age, size, status, they all use the same software
there is no 2.0.
You tried wooow!!!! I gave up years ago
It's always men's responsibility. That's why men HAVE to be in charge. They will always blame you, even if you had nothing to do with something, so you should be the one to make all the rules.
#Problem: Having these discussions in a *point for point* format isn't the most effective way because it fosters a debate and competitive (need to be right) atmosphere; which in turn triggers women to emotionally react...
#Solution: Arguing point for point is like pouring fuel on fire. You kill fires by letting them burn themselves out of oxygen, NOT by giving them fuel. How do we do this practically? One way is the socratic method... Itscomplicated, on his youtube channel employs it masterfully and has demonstrated it to be the best way to get women thinking through discussions INSTEAD of feeling through them... Telling women what the truth is, is akin to giving a man a fish; whereas asking them the right questions socratically is akin to teaching them to fish. If men employ and master the socratic method, they will make women fight their own logic & emotions themselves as opposed to what we have currently (the women fighting the men)...
#Synopsis: We have been going about our communication with women the wrong way. They aren't wired to be linear in their reasoning like men, so getting them from point A to B in a linear way feels unnatural & uncomfortable for them, especially with triggering topics. Men trying to talk to women how they talk to men is a recipe for chaos, frustration & insanity. It's counterintuitive, but women reason better through questioning rather than through direct answers... Only give direct consice answers to their direct consise questions but when it comes to explaining things to them, socratic questions yield bet results than long winded explainations their emotional state can easily tune out off... When you ask the right question & they hear the answer in their own voice (in their heads), they are more likely to believe it than if they heard the same answer in a man's voice. It's kind of backwards & solipsist l know, but that's how they are in emotionally volatile situations. We can only ADAPT and find ways to remedy it or let communication DIE.
Just as "the game is to be sold, not told" with women, *the truth is to be coaxed, not told...*
I caught that to. The one in the camera hasn’t listened to understand shit. She was listening to respond and argue! Not worth the aggravation. She never listened even when she asked him a question.
They just don’t get it and from their body language, responses and facial expressions they don’t even want to get it 🤦🏾♂️
Exactly they don't care
Exactly
This is because they feel as if they have a position of power over men in this society so their programmed to deflect anything that goes against that
They don't wanna get it; they wanna be right. They don't want to change or improve so it's pointless for them to actively listen, in their minds.
They just don't care They think they're white women.. All I hear is white supremacist feminist talking points.." But man but you men but men but men"
This conversation went right over their heads.
They are arguing for them not to be accountable for their decisions. Basically they are either playing stupid or are just stupid!!
@@kennethsmith6367 I say it's both
@@soloman_svd definitely both
These women don't care about men! They don't want to do or give anything to please the black man. The host will soon realize he's wasting his time.
I usually avoid watching chicks like this in a discussion, and 20 min in I remembered why and exited.
Frustrating to see so many of these women being so obtuse to such simple points being made. 😢
This is 95% of Black women
Dope conversation. This was a masterclass on patience lol ✊🏾
Preciate you fam 🙏🏿We definitely gonna link for another collab opportunity at some point
It wasn’t a conversation. It was a wasted dialogue with women bent on having a rebuttal to every principle and concept of why they don’t have a man.
High Value Manwas not a buzz word . It was a description of certain qualities that these hyenas rejected because they will never have one
This man's patience is INFINITE. How he continues to attempt to educate women about men only for it to consistently go over their heads time and time again is INSANE
That's because most women don't care what men want because they get chased so they don't have to care
Its not about "educating women about men" Its about black men rising to develop themselves to become leaders, providers & builders. Lead the relationship. The woman you intend to marry is the only woman, who cares and needs to understand you. That comes with time & building intimacy in a committed relationship. Random women owe you nothing.
@@ctruth6185 so? Who asked for your input?
Accountability is Kryptonite. 😂
SOFEWARE NEVER CHANGES
hardware maybe be different
it never fails, education level, age, size, status, they all use the same software
there is no 2.0.
@@johncapo2843 hard to switch software when ratchet is winning. 🤷🏾♂️
Rest in peace to The Godfather
Exactly 😂
You know when I see videos such as this I often wonder if the Brown (black) who watching are really listening to what these two brothers are saying in full! Like one you say accountability right we’ll let me give you some that you are not willing to take! 1. Whatever our women are is the direct results of our failure as Brown (black) men they are the way they are because we are not leaders in our communities we are not protectors in our communities we do not build businesses in our communities we do not lead our women and children in our communities! In every other race of men in their communities they are all of these things! That’s why you do not see any other race of men having these little boy cry baby conversation! We have to take accountability for everything the Brown (black) community is and isn’t it is our failures that our communities are in the condition that they are in its high time we man the fuck up and stop with this weak winning shit you boys are doing ask a man of a different race what he thought about the winning Brown (black) men are doing in these videos! They are laughing their asses off at us! Shake back brother go speak with your grand father and stop listening to guys who couldn’t get women until they had this podcast what real information can he give you in Highschool the girl they liked didn’t like them and it fucked them up till this day hence the THE PODCAST! 😂
Western society is OVER! Their is no coming back. This is why I value my peace and sanity at all cost, even if it means I lose all my family members my friends and if my children don’t communicate with me ever again.
There will be a correction. There always is. Stock market crashes...it recovers and reaches new heights....then it crashes again and returns to normal, whatever the new normal is. If wmn stop being reasonable, men will leave. It's going that way now with the passport bros. Correction is coming.
@@bhillboy37I hope you’re right because these women have no ability to listen to anyone. They are always right no matter what.
SOFEWARE NEVER CHANGES
hardware maybe be different
it never fails, education level, age, size, status, they all use the same software
there is no 2.0.
I’m with you brother, enjoy the decline
Good for you for walking out on your kids.
Lol
Not even going to lie. I’ve noticed that whenever the man start talking, the women start to chuckle on the side, laugh and even sit the men off. This is childish behavior.
@jayg1060 I mean it's one of the many reasons they're the lowest married and the highest divorced. What they talk about is clearly working for them. But hey, who am i
One reason why snow bunnies stay winning.
@@ScottieMitchell-f8yBlack men are the lowest married men and have the highest divorce rates when in interracial marriages 💅🏾
@@allenbrady8083BOYYY! “AND YOU KNOW THIS MAN!!! They so disrespectful. That’s why they are the LEAST desired. It will remain that way. All the chuckling and sneaky laughing on the side. Disrespectful.
@@allenbrady8083and latinas
Patrice O'Neal's fishing analogy would have been so helpful.
Women want you to stop being what you had to be to get them.
BOTH genders have to either change, compromise, or acquiesce when in a romantic relationship, not just men. And only controlling, manipulative ppl want you to stop being what it took to attract them. If they're insecure, time to break up!
Top comment right here!
It’s always tit for tat which is why I refuse to have these convos any more.
They just don't listen. Smh
I'm 40, technically a "xennial"...but raised more old school by boomer parents. I'm telling you this...most of you guys are wasting time with most of these women. They aren't gonna change until catastrophe hits. I thank God I got a wife who is aware of feminist influence throughout the whole of society, BUT understands WHY she should reject it. 🙌🙌🙌🙌
I am an Generation Xer. We learn in the 80s and 90s that women were in full on rebellion and they've continued to do so. Modern black women are irredeemable. They're not worth the trouble trying to come to hand, peaceful resolution because they can be none. They're too busy trying to be man, and a can't handle the competition. They're operating outside their nature and their wonder why they are failing. And they wonder why we don't want them anymore.
My advice to these men is move how you want and find women that add or get with the program. Lead and wife the who will follow and compliment the vision
Amen!!!
Facts women never change until life forces them to
@melissanicole3657 SMH....says the person who doesn't know what "change" means in the context of modern women. Comprehension is what happens when the words don't just go into an empty barrel and roll around. So is it us guys who need to work on communication, or is it you? Listening and comprehension go hand in hand. BTW, I'm happily married to a beautiful woman who isn't a socially engineered fembot, we have 3 kids, worked together to create family businesses, and we communicate in superb fashion. I know what I'm talking about. Parents married over 40 years, grandparents married over 70 years. That doesn't happen by accident.
It never ceases to amaze me how the need to be right runs so damn strong with our women.
These panels are pointless because the men running them are trying to have conversations instead of forcing the participants to think and challenging them with questions. Women have survived by thinking a certain way. Y’all are trying to fight against millions of years of female biology. You will never win.
You got that right
wow
This is typically a passed down mindset from their staff single mothers
The fact they kept saying “that goes for men a women” too, no fuckin shit
This man stayed on point, was patient, and showed extreme grace the entire time while continually being met with side points, SIGN language, and zero accountability... Hats off to this man! Period.
None of these women wanted to listen to any points the men were making. They only listened to respond and tell the panel how they felt in the different discussions. Also they did a lot of deflecting and pointing the finger back at men.
She has spoken for quite a while, and she REALLY believes she made a point.
SOFEWARE NEVER CHANGES
hardware maybe be different
it never fails, education level, age, size, status, they all use the same software
there is no 2.0.
Trying to have an enlightened, thoughtful, intellectual conversation with the panel of women is absolutely grating. It is obvious that they didn't hear a single word that was said. Their answers are typical of women listening to respond instead of listening to engage in a good faith discussion.
@bigsteve3530 yeah it was ridiculous. Just the idea of so many woman really believing that they know better and are smarter and wiser than men....that just tells me everything I need to know every time. They speak with such confidence SMH. Out of order, natural order.
They never can stand in the fire to change .. ,a deflection party
Alot of words but no content or connection to reality!
This man is a soldier on the front lines. Catching strays. Laying on grenades. I feel like he recruited opps for this conversation. There's a difference between disagreeing and having a different POV; there was a lack of active listening. A lot of waiting to speak.
Naw son he stayed to detonate the bomb so we all could get away he get full military honors for this burial 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😆😆😆😆😆💥💣💜♦💎
@@keithwhite1748FULL board of accolades 🙏🏽🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂 Rather graphic description, but true!
Allan is trying hard to be clear and not be offensive. But once again the "Need to be right" Line of defense was unbreakable.
We're wasting time. "You only gain the understanding you seek." I think this conversation proves that it's time for this generation to go our separate ways and allow each others' absence make our hearts grow fond enough to seek the understanding of one another.
0:52 I decided long ago that if a woman can’t be held accountable for her actions she ain’t for me. If you are a grown woman you should be able to accept your faults and not project. When you are wrong you are wrong.
Been married for 28+ years and my wife understands I’m a loving man but I don’t play when it comes to childish crap.
13:13 Bro had to fight for his life to make his way to his point about grace 😭 Every call for empathy is met with a whataboutism two-wrongs-make-a-right response.
Men can't share their pain without women throwing theirs in his face, even if he didn't cause it 😔
"even If he didn't cause it">>
Yeah, that was the saddest part of this conversation. They can't even fathom the thought of giving men grace. That is so so sad 😞
@@ShaniquaJwest This is what we experience on a daily basis with black women. They are never responsible for anything and they are always right. But they complain a lot on the networks and share their hatred. It's really a shame to see that we end up losing all attraction by seeing this kind of behavior.
If banging your head against a brick wall was made into a conversation. Keep up the good fight, Bro!
Everybody on this panel knows damn well it doesnt go both ways
That's their go-to phrase 🤣.
Bw, once they've gotten money and status, will look down on the janitor....oh "he" needs to level up to me, bs.
But men, once they've achieve success, will go to Burger King and date and marry the cashier!
It's that point, that these women can't grasp.
Facts. They think they can be all things to all people at once. A great employee, a perfect girlfriend, a loving mother and a loose whore when it suits them not knowing that all the mental qualities it takes to be good at each of those things individually cannot co-exist inside the same mind at the same time without causing a degree of mental illness that manifests as chaotic, incoherent lines of thinking aka delusion.
And you wonder why most of us are single and are really to go somewhere else to look for a mate😂
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As a woman who is 49 and married for 23 years, I really wanted the ladies to be humble and listen. I have single friends who have the same complaint. Every relationship is made of 2 flawed people committed to working together. It took me 10 years of letting down my wall of pride to pay attention to his history and their own. I have to put my pride down daily to communicate with someone who took time to trust me to communicate with. It's a long patient process.
Thank you so much for this comment sister!
Im sick of women having to be humble and listen to men when they don even give it back it's ridiculous
Every relationship is not a blk female's faut because this supposed bad attitude we have in our dna. He is basically implying most blk women have a bad attitude and don't look mixed race or good looking enough to get a black CEO which is problematic but could be true but it's mostly due to black men not liking black womens features and also them trying to humble and make sure black women don't aim high but a woman who makes 200k or even 100k a year should be dating a man at who at the least 90k to 100k and 150k-17k to her 200k anyless and he is really only dating her to come up
Admin please pin this comment 🙏🏾
Unfortunately the metaphors and this entire discussion went over these womens' heads.
SOFEWARE NEVER CHANGES
hardware maybe be different
it never fails, education level, age, size, status, they all use the same software
there is no 2.0.
Generations of combative, “don’t need no man” women in the household.
are these women dumb? BW are more educated yet you suggesting they don't understand how to evaluate the situations in which they are dating. BM hate working on their wounds because they might look like simps in their bromances.
The men appeared to be in the conversation to bring enlightenment. The women looked like they were trying to *_win_* the conversation. You can look on their faces and *_see_* the women listening to respond as opposed to listening to comprehend. The whole discussion looked like a game of one-upmanship on the ladies' part.
Exactly!!!
Him: the sky is blue, so I try to accurately portray it in my paintigs for my clients
Her: thats the situation you made for yourself with other artists
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Lmao
These broads have master the art of answering a question without answering the question 😂
A single woman trying to convince a black womans issues are a fault of the Black man....no accountability is crazy work...
Who abandons their children?? And who impregnates women the fact y'all by pass biology and act stupid is slow 😂
The moment she said: “*Who told him to pick up the guitar?*” I knew that the analogy went right over her head, she has conversations to hear herself talk, and she’s definitely the: “*I AM THE TABLE!!!*” type of woman.
🤦🏾♂️😖🤯
I don't know why you guys are wasting time with these women. 80% of BW didn't grow up with a father, so they don't know how to respect male Authority. You gotta search deep and wide for one of the 20% who had a dad or date out where non blk women on average had a father in the home 75% of the time
@KA1of1 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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In all honesty, my hubby said this to me the other day 'women don't know what they want' and I had to think bout that statement for a while and I wholeheartedly agree. A woman says she wants a sensitive man but will belittle him and show less respect (this is based off what I've seen in my own family and friend circle), they don't care about a man's status but will push a man to become 'better' financially so they can maintain the consumer lifestyle that is programmed into us. We do have selective hearing I agree so I have learned to listen to alot more although I'm very introverted and quiet in our relationship it's definitely a skill we women need to develop to maintain a healthy relationship/marriage. Great conversation though the same issues are prevalent in the UK too it's a shame. x
This was tough. God bless you two brothers sitting here trying to have this conversation
I know these brothers must have lost some hair..
After listening to this conversation for 10 minutes had to turn the volume down and go straight to the comments for common sense release. It's amazing how patient this dude is.
This happens in real time. I had a woman tell me she is superior. On our second date I push the check over to her. Sooo are you not superior now, be superior and pay for this date. She said I will pay but if I do you will not see me anymore. It's was $30. We just stopped for wings. Men let her be superior early so you will not waste your time. If I paid the relationship continued but I was dismissed for $30 bucks. Modern Women
🤣😂🤣 how’d it get to a second date tho??
Gentlemen, this is why having a passport is important. Travel to places where you feel valued and women embrace their femininity.
These women are a waste of time
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not if you broke
@@ramalellison9205the way I look at it, you gotta have some type of value to date women in any country. Get your value up and go to a family oriented country
Listening to them, i felt as thoe i was loosing brain cells literally.
At this point my brother i can imagine that this on repeat is draining.
I appreciate you all the more.
SOFEWARE NEVER CHANGES
hardware maybe be different
it never fails, education level, age, size, status, they all use the same software
there is no 2.0.
It’s why I admire KS more than anything now. How did he do this day in and day out?
@@ThurstMETVyea and he tried to act like it wasn’t bothering him. I know that mess stressed my guy out.
@@wills.9422 it had to!! Especially if he truly cared as I believe he did. The money was great as we know but it essentially took his life. He had to care because advocating for marriage in the west goes against the betterment of men imo. I understood his mission but why would any man risk it all on these women??? Why
Go Get your passports now brothers goodbye 👋 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Honestly, it's no point in talking to women. It's best to just let them fall on their faces and only raise your daughters right!
That’s truly the only solution. You can only solve this issue at childhood level.
It's impossible and relatively pointless. It's actually astonishing to watch the delusion in real-time
Simply a waste of time. They aren't listening and have no desire to solve any of these problems.
@@TheMatrixofMeaningso if it's a waste off time why you here leave us sistas alone I rather die alone I'm sick and tired off these cry babies find love when the other races stop crying grow up stop complaining it's a duck ng broken record I'm sick off black bozos
BM are the most hateful. We BW aren't waiting for you to become a good man. More BW are walking away from y'all and living happier lives. Y'all go get the silky haired Asians, Latins, and white women. BM, live your best lives. Get y'all knees off our necks.
This was such a painful watch. Oh my daysss. This man has a god level patience to continue to educate and deity level grace not to make fun of their cluelessness.
you are a masterclass in communication. you’re intuitive, you read the room and you choose your words carefully. and you actually listen to what is being said and respond accordingly. it makes me sad that you didn’t receive the same courtesy of being listened to. you can very visibly see a tuning out in the body language throughout the video.
i had this conversation with my mother, father and aunt recently and it was the very same response and even more vehement. i even asked “okay so you can list all the flaws of men in relationships but what are some of the shortcomings of women in them?” … i got nothing.
the messaging remains the same: women are inherently good. any that aren’t is the fault of men.
men are faulty and unworthy by nature. any that aren’t is because of women. it’s an exhausting conversation but i’m glad you’re doing this work
@@tru_hart that's how It is speaking to most blk women and usually even the 1 that say they don't do this are the 1 that do it the most they are so used to being rude to blk men they don't even notice what they are doing
If talking to a brick wall was a sport, you just made the all-star team 😅
Yes it is a sport for us now get your dusty passport 😊
The guitar analogy was perfect. The guitar represents the things men and women have to engage in to attract the opposte sex. It's a fundamental of life and propagation.
"But who told you to play the guitar" is about the single dumbest thing I've heard as a response in about 3 and a half months. When someone shows you their understanding of human interaction, metaphor, and basic...words is that poor, its time to stop communicating with them
Right. And how about the one where the man returned from war to find that his wife had created a child without him. No sympathy at all for his discovery. Instead of at least empathizing with the unfaithfulness, the women pivot to "well, he's probably got somebody on the side too."
Thank you I was thinking the same thing. As a bassist, that’s something that resonated with me. It was never about getting women, and more a out if I commit myself to discipline and growth it will lead to an inner confidence that will help improve my self confidence throughout all areas of my life. It acts as a positive reference point, much like a save point in a video game. It’s all about playing/learning and mastering the instrument, everything else is extra.
Men who don't pick up the guitar are INCELS (Involuntary Celibate)
Pick up the guitar men and play ALL night long.
SOFEWARE NEVER CHANGES
hardware maybe be different
it never fails, education level, age, size, status, they all use the same software
there is no 2.0.
Yeah man that spot on especially the buck one too, like I’m not saying men are faultless, but women do play a part in the whole street nigga and etc thing because they “reward” those type of dudes far more than those that are opposite and usually alot do guys ain’t like that but will eventually try and be that due to how alot of women will react to them at a young age
It doesn’t work both ways I terms of expectations ~ MEN understand that if he works at McDonalds. He’s not getting a CEO of a major company ~ a regular man such as myself, I don’t have illusions(DELUSIONAL) of dating a celebrity or sliding in an influencers DM and having a chance at a relationship ~
Also one of the things Kevin Samuels talked about which is missed by many women, men typically hit their financial stride later in life. It is unreasonable and unrealistic for a man in his 20’s or early 30’s to be a CEO. They may make good money, but the expectations modern women have for men is simply unrealistic.
Typically men know how to stay in there lane. We always have understood this.
Women are stuck in a high school hope mentality ~ where they believe Prince Charming is waiting for them. … after they’ve had a child by another man…. or they’ve been riding the carousel, until they are ready to settle down.
@mobrown1198 ALL of this
Facts
Mr Samuals hated and bashed women of color. As a professional black woman, black men have treated me the worse. I tried to give a black man a chance and his attitude was so nasty. I have dated and been proposed to by white and Asian men so BM can't define my worth. More black men are killing black women. So many BM have so many baby mamas and can't afford one baby.
Thank you.
Men are delusional as well because when they reach their so called financial stride they believe that some young 20 something woman is now going to be available to them for molding. They walk away from the wife and mother of their children that was in their league when they had nothing. They say that she no longer has value because she has aged. Where is her grace and loyalty?
Women believe they are entitled to over talking any and ALL BLACK MEN
The "that could go for men too" is also a problem. Because it details the conversation from the focus which is women. When the talk is about men SOMEHOW we can keep it about men. Each woman pulls out an invisible scroll detailing why men ain't shit, no interruptions. As soon as the table turns to men talking about women all you hear is "yes but" ,"men too", "that's because" "who hurt you", "sassy this and that"
When he explained why women don’t understand why they aren’t attracting the man they want and she went
“Well I feel like that goes for men too”
She missed the entire effin point.
And the chick at the end… “men need to share their feelings with women who will listen…”
She spent like 5 minutes proving she doesn’t listen to men at all.
🫤 A whole lot of the responses to female critique were of the “but men too” variety.
Never “guilty…we could work on that.”
Always “every body has that problem” (and thus it’s not something that women in particular should give consideration).
@@everObvious ,,,it never fails,,,,,undefeated.
Yeah especially when he was saying how the value systems of what men and women find attractive are just different, they kept making faces. 4:35
And I ain’t saying men don’t have faults but I’ve heard more men actually admit to thing men as a whole need to work on like “yeah we do do that” simple admission of the actions they do, but don’t hear that much from women it’s usually “we’ve been programmed by society…”
and when u do criticize them it’s almost like they say “how dare you” almost it’s weird fr
This is a great advertisement for why black men need to date elsewhere. Who on earth wants to deal with this combative energy on a regular basis
SOFEWARE NEVER CHANGES
hardware maybe be different
it never fails, education level, age, size, status, they all use the same software
there is no 2.0.
Seeing stuff like this used to make me mad, but now I feel sorry for them. It seems like there is something blocking them from truly understanding men. As a result it hurts them from having better relationships with us.
What’s blocking them from understanding men is the fact they didn’t have fathers most likely
Lastly, the problem with these conversations is linked to womens higher in-group bias. They come into conversations like this as "team woman" whereas the men are "team make sense and fix things". This is evidenced by the constant disagreement of any point Allen made, and all the "exactly"'s and head nids anytime a woman spoke. No concession, no grace, no soace for a man to express his perspective. Just "team woman" and finger pointing. Im beginning to wonder if there really is a point
I mean 🤦🏾♂️ maybe the ladies all independently found common ground (…in disagreeing with nearly any point that Allen was trying to make)?
It’s possible. 🤷🏾♂️
and that brutha is by far perhaps the most articulate content creator in these spaces and notice his voice was the lowest amongst all of the women who were all demonstrably louder and more combative. If they respond like that to THIS cat, how well does that bode for the lesser affluent cat?
@@r2d187Allen proves "it's not the tone." I DO notice he has more success getting through in the one-on-one format. In panels, the hive mind takes over.
One of the reasons I love Allen's vintage format (one-on-one) is that the ladies are forced into Socratic dialogue and engagement. Panels on these topics lead to this hive mind dynamic, and the only way to combat is using the "Fresh & Fit" dunk-on-them techniques, which Allen thankfully doesn't deploy.
There isn’t sadly
This woman swaying back and forth can't handle the conversation. This helps her cope.
I just watched 1 minute and I'm pissed off and aggravated. These women have NO DESIRE to understand or work together... only to argue and be right... FFS
As soon as she came in with her "rigidity of roles" rhetoric, she exposed herself as disingenuous and rebellious. I accept none of their "patriarchy" propaganda. Men meeting this madness even half-way, are running nothing but a "fools errand".
I take my hat off to these Brothers continuing to have these discussions with Black Women. They are so disingenuous, selfish it is an utter waste of time having these discussions.
Unbelievable smh there's no resolve with our women without taking ALL accountability for everything and absolving them fully. 😢😪
This is Great Content, it needs to be Discussed even More, the Unfortunate Truth is that Black Women, especially the Black women who are between 35- 50 in 2023 in just 5 years the dating market is bad now and We Can only imagine how Bad it will be for this group of Black women in the next 5 years!!!
The AMERICAN FEMALE...is totally hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉
You can just FEEL the resistance 😂😂😂.
foreal !
Allen has all patience and stoicism infinity stones! Salute.!
These types of conversations are healthy to watch so you can see the types ladies that can grasp nuance in a non combative manner.!
lol These conversations are pointless. His goals are admirable and respectable, but unless you can get these women to challenge their own beliefs, leading to changed behavior, what have you accomplished?
@@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13women will only respond to power nothing more trying to reason and guilt trip doesn’t work all it does is make you look weak
I hear this conversation and worry about my son. Im worried about him being around men raised solely by women and about the women who listen but only so they can talk. I've given up the concept of love but i don't want him to end up like me. Great show as always. Peace
We're in trouble... 😒
leave the states
Dont worry about him...if he a real man...he'll find his match...and thats a fact...
Nobody is really raised solely by women..
Stop the drama dude a child needs both a child raise by a man only is good too just like a child raise by a woman only
Its amazing you fellas actually made it past 5 mins conversing with this group of women!
When will they answer any questions 😂
I love my wife, its funny, sometimes I talk to her friends when they happen to visit and I try to talk to them about some of this stuff, wife included and what I've found is that, women dont listen as well as they think they do. Every time you drop a little knowledge that touches on their need to show insight, they instantly deflect. They dont hear. They just feel attacked. Tone doesnt matter, its the message that you are doing something wrong and you need to make an adjustment to get the result you want, but what they hear is "Im wrong and oh no no no, I'm not wrong, you're wrong because I was told that Im perfect" Its funny buy kinda sad.
Women simply don't listen and refuse accountability at all cost.
Yes like you 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This was frustrating to watch. Every point was met with a deflection or a derailment. It was like watching a man trying to fry an egg on a non-stick skillet while holding it sideways.
That buck with the big horns analogy was so potent. That concept represents what goes on in the hood USA, the prettiest women in the hood or projects ain’t going for the smartest, emotionally insightful men in the hood, they’re going for the richest, toughest, and feared men in the community, and we know what comes with that lifestyle.
I’ve had a homies
who felt like getting his reputation up in the hood for being a shooter would bring him WOMEN, not money or anything that could better him, but loose women who get wet from being around hell raisers and street niggas. Can we be honest an say it’s some method to that madness he was talking, that it’s a little bit of truth in that.
Yup. Our women LOVE them some felons and street dudes... till they age out that is. Then, its time for the reach back to the responsible brothers to help clean up pookies mess. Absolutely disgusting.
I luv these cats demeanor very calm and relatable definitely keeping my attention ✌️
These women are a good example why men are looking elsewhere. Who wants to deal with this kind of crazy..
wise choice
Keep searching we don’t stop you at all keep going we love that Goodbyes😊
I'm 10 minutes in and still waiting for the women to listen well enough to understand the meaning of the words being spoken to them.
I was screaming "STOP THE 🧢!" on my way back to the yard listening to this. Just a series of "but men-but men-but men." Allen, these women are at an age where the absence of grace for men is their only frame of reference, so like flouride in water, they don't notice the absence. And the "men need to not aim so high, too." Jeez Louise! I knew at 18 (almost 51 now) I wasn't fu¢king Janet Jackson or Apollonia or Holly Robinson. There might be 50 men between them that have a "story" about them. There are literally THOUSANDS of women who have a "Drake story" or a "Weezy story," or in my day, a "Bobby Brown story." That's the difference. Men don't speak the language of "deserve," we speak the language of "earn."
Nevertheless, always applaud your efforts, Allen. The brother speaking to young sisters growing up in a gynocracy about "playing with Barbies while we played with Tonka trucks" didn't help, though. It ain't 1978. These girls grew up watching normalized slut culture and videos of women squaring up on men.
All that said, there's always one you get through to. That's the hope, anyway. But Rollo always said, on these matters, you cannot appeal to women's reason.
The guitar analogy is absolutely on point. I applaud you sir!
Man, it's like talking to a deposed dictator and getting him to admit his faults.
NOT MINE...NOT ME NOT ME...These women struggle with the macro. 😅
How is it possible to fail to understand a metaphor that badly? How is it possible to blame men for womens demands so casually? How is it possible to so easily amble away from the specifics of the topic to something irrelevant just to avoid the point being made? How do they so easily make his point about presumed benevolence and not giving men grace for him, whilst failing to see that they're doing it?
Because most women are incapable of looking at things at the macro level. They internalize every scenario and respond based on how they feel in that moment. They can't not make it about them lol
Women can be terrible empathizers & even worse at understanding metaphorical language. Their typical response is to then make a straw-man's argument by focusing on the least important detail & then somehow making it THE issue. Their mental gymnastics never cease to amaze.
@@r2d187 Thats y historically, men just dominated women and DIDN'T waste time debating them. The REAL fight is with American culture that SUPPORTS these BW in order to destroy the BM.
@@r2d187
I deal with this on a daily basis with my woman.
It baffles me how they always hone in on the MOST MINUTE, sometimes irrelevant details.
I’m still waiting for other men to realize that we need to take their “privileges” back. Women have proven time and again that they can’t handle responsibility, it’s time to take their choices away!!! I’ll wait for the rest of you to join us rational men!!
Man. This episode was EXHAUSTING. Doesn’t matter what Allen says it will be met with opposition lol.
Black women 4 ya. This dude was so professional and all these women are argumentative and aggressive
These young brothas are seriously intelligent and articulate! Welldone sirs💯🤜🤜
No disrespect intended, but this conversation was way above this selection of ladies heads smh
I’m 11mins in and what I gathered from the conversation is that these women and most women really don’t give a crap about what men need or what we talking about it’s sad. Like truly. I feel bad for the brotha cause he spent his time he’ll never get back talking to walls
Critical listening skills are a lost thing in today’s world
I love when they show themselves to the world. Once it’s out you can’t take it back. When a person shows you who they are, believe them!
The need to "all lives matter" when the spotlight was specially on women is a huge problem. It's ironic that when statements are made like "Black women are the most educated", we don't hear that same mentality like "but hey we've got a lot of black men that are educated too".
Tired of the fake emotionally intelligent women, shutting men down.
The guitar analogy was beautiful, and they ran right past it to be right.
Thank you!🙏🏿
But it’s his fault for not leading them to understanding it better.
Men must lead and women will naturally follow 🤭🤦🏾♂️🤭🤦🏾♂️…That’s some of the sentiments I have gotten from some of his content
@@PD-qu8dq Perhaps you’re misunderstanding the nuance in my content and statements.
Lol, the men in this vid sound like a comedy sketch
These women are the most disagreeable 😅
This was incredibly hard to watch!
Listening to respond not to understand.
The full video gets better
😂😂
I'm amazed again at his patience
Great cast.. women's true intentions, thoughts, feelings, and behavior has to keep being brought to the light with podcasts like this.
Understanding the “why” in all of these conversations is vital. There are so many psychological layers to many of these topics, that running these topics through the “5 whys” is extremely necessary!
The way the convo ends proves what the convo started on lmao how ironic
"Whether women asked men to go to war or enjoyed the peace created by the men that died."
Powerful
SOFEWARE NEVER CHANGES
hardware maybe be different
it never fails, education level, age, size, status, they all use the same software
there is no 2.0.
Agreed. That hit me hard. I just wish it would have sunk in with the women.
Still went over their heads, smh. NOTHING is ever their fault, directly or indirectly. They have no room for improvement.
Unless you’re not from America, you are being delusional black men have never went to war to protect black women
@johncapo2843 you really posted this on every comment damn near. Quit fishing for likes