Why Choose Subaru? Symmetrical AWD advantages

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  • @andrewleventis8341
    @andrewleventis8341 Рік тому +79

    my biggest regret at age 68 that i only discovered Subaru in 2021...what a great car

    • @DanielKwetny
      @DanielKwetny  Рік тому +4

      Welcome to the Subaru family - and Thanks for watching :-)

    • @OsightblinderO
      @OsightblinderO Рік тому +8

      If that’s your biggest regret at 70 then you lack accountability.

    • @andrewleventis8341
      @andrewleventis8341 Рік тому +1

      @@OsightblinderO ??

    • @jacquesviau6165
      @jacquesviau6165 Рік тому +3

      Never 2 late. I had always thought Subaru was Australian built / made. Discovered Subaru through a colleague at work. We both about to retire. I bought his car as we are bothabout to part ways and this is the last car for myself. A présent to myself. Never 2 late

  • @danarussell4246
    @danarussell4246 11 місяців тому +10

    Just traded our 2009 Subaru Forester in for a 2024 Subaru Ascent. Love Subaru’s AWD system. Great explanation!

  • @dha588
    @dha588 10 місяців тому +20

    Every subaru needs this model in their stores

  • @igor-rp5mw
    @igor-rp5mw 11 місяців тому +13

    I drive my Subarus like a rally cars. Now I slowed down a bit.
    Each of them survived The Dragon 10th of times.
    There is one that made 100 trips to The Dragon and survived each of them.
    Great 4 cyl. Car that can do it all.

    • @hankshaw2225
      @hankshaw2225 10 місяців тому +2

      The dragon takes some serious driving, I have also ridden it several times a motorcycle.

  • @martinr8278
    @martinr8278 Рік тому +15

    I wish our Subaru dealership had something like that in the show room. I always wonder why dealerships don’t have the inflated back end of a car to demonstrate eyesight when purchased Good video

    • @SubieandFriends
      @SubieandFriends Рік тому +1

      Hey whey what’s up bro!! It’s funny how you and I always seem to be watching the same videos lol

  • @uhly101
    @uhly101 8 місяців тому +1

    Just bought my first Subaru. Thank you for this very informative video. Makes me love my Subaru even more!

  • @ralphlong9973
    @ralphlong9973 Рік тому +25

    You did not talk about power distribution!
    This, especially off road, or in low traction environments, is extremely important, and a major advantage of Subarus.

  • @jeffer1101
    @jeffer1101 11 місяців тому +21

    I don't think there are few components on the boxer engine since you'd have 2 heads, 4 cams, cam carriers and 2 sets of timing chains. One main advantage of the symmetrical AWD system (and where the symmetrical name comes from) is the equal length half axles. You did mention they were equal length on the Subaru system (which they are), but the main advantage of that is it eliminates torque steer, which helps put the power to the road and also helps maintain control and stability.

    • @DanielKwetny
      @DanielKwetny  11 місяців тому

      Great point about torque steer 👍 cheers

    • @AudioHead809
      @AudioHead809 11 місяців тому

      Not just the half axles. The transmission too. Makes the awd part make sense. It’s called symmetrical awd not symmetrical axles

    • @jeffer1101
      @jeffer1101 11 місяців тому

      @@AudioHead809 it's called symmetrical due to its layout (like the video shows), of which the half axles play a very big role in. It's basically the only system out there with equal length half axles. It is this reason why FWD cars (without at least using an LSD) have torque steer, especially on models with higher power outputs. Engine up front, into the transmission, split to the front half axels, driveshaft to rear diff, split to rear half axles. There is no back and forth which is common in most other set ups as the driveline is not situated in a straight line.

    • @AudioHead809
      @AudioHead809 11 місяців тому +1

      @@jeffer1101 I agree with you. It’s all to do with the driveline. I was just stating that the transmission and its orientation can also be called symmetrical. It’s the whole system, but yes the axles are the number one thing. Even 4wd trucks like the Jeep or f150 have a transfer case which throws off the symmetry and causes there to be a shorter axle on one side even though the engine sits similarly. It’s very cool what Subaru has done and they deserve to be able to call it symmetrical. Even the engine itself is close to perfect in symmetry. As far as twin head designs go. And then the engine sitting super low to boot. It’s really an awesome design. It’s cool to see what Porsche is doing with that new 911 S/T. They have perfected the boxer engine. Hope to see Subaru do something for an sti replacement eventually and take some ideas from Porsche.

    • @jeffer1101
      @jeffer1101 11 місяців тому +4

      @@AudioHead809 yes, agreed. Basically, the symmetry is the entire driveline. It's a pretty unique set up, and is something you can tell when you drive it (I recently bought a Forester).

  • @AcesHighMedia
    @AcesHighMedia 10 місяців тому +3

    Just bought my first subaru a couple of weeks ago!

  • @tchindkatane712
    @tchindkatane712 Рік тому +4

    Thank you very much❤, that's helped to visualize, comprehend, and boost my understanding and confidence about subaru 😊.

  • @WholeCosmos
    @WholeCosmos 9 місяців тому +1

    Besides the drive line symmetry they have 4 versions of power transfer based on the various differential configurations.(VCD) viscous center differential) The nominal is 50:50 front to rear using an open font and rear differential. It uses the ABS to manage traction control. All manual transmission subarus and manual WRX are (VCD) Before this ABS usage offroading was a nightmare on spinning wheels when one tire was off the ground.... unless you were sending it the entire time which is not really how off-roading works. The next system is (ATS) Active torque split) and is 60:40 front biased used in the CVT models It uses a multi plate center clutch pack that is always partially engaged and will engage more to send more power to the rear if the front wheels are slipping. It has open differentials in front and rear. The next AWD system is (VTD) Variable torque distribution) The WRX and some XT models with high torque CVT has this with a rear bias 45:55 split for a slightly more sporty handling, reducing understeer into and pushing out of corners as well as "torque vectoring". It achieves this with a planetary open front and rear differential that uses an electronic controlled hydraulic transfer clutch that can switch smoothly between sending more power to the wheels that need it. Torque vectoring employs the ABS system to apply breaks to the wheels on the inside of a turn sending more power to the outside wheels slowing the inner wheels for improved cornering in turns. (I have a 2017 Forester XT) It has this same drive train of the WRX and you can tell at speed when cornering and it is amazing!!! It makes the car feel like it has 4 wheel steering when cornering. Of course newer STI's 2015 and up have torque vectoring as well. I love the rear bias and torque vectoring in my 2017 Forester XT I can drive it like a WRX it's a sleeper. Only problem..... they only came with the high torque CVT no manual like the WRX but it has manual mode and paddle shifters!. The next AWD system is the (DCCD) Driver Controlled Center Differential) The STI is the only one with (DCCD) you can lock it to a rear bias of choice up to 41:59(may vary by year) split or you can have it automatically controlled by the computer using a mechanical center limited slip diff and and electronic controlled center limited slip differential to distribute power front to rear. The STI has a helical limited slip front differential and a torsen rear limited slip differential. If you are looking into an older WRX and don't want to go full STI also look at the Forester XT 2015-2018. or 2015 and up wrx that has torque vectoring (VTD)......so worth it. LOL serious rock crawlers need a real 4WD with locking differentials. The AWD is amazing for flat slippery surfaces like ice, snow, mud, and gravel/sand. Where we're going we (STILL NEED) roads Doc Brown. LOL where is my flying car?
    This guy is great for motor head geeks. Jason Fenske, he's a mechanical engineer.
    ua-cam.com/video/WBQlK89PyxQ/v-deo.html

    • @DanielKwetny
      @DanielKwetny  9 місяців тому +1

      Seriously great information - thank you!

  • @Align700nitro
    @Align700nitro Рік тому +6

    with such a good layout they have the nerve to discontinue the sti package. well done subaru...

    • @DanielKwetny
      @DanielKwetny  Рік тому +5

      Tell me about it... The STi was the epitome of original Subaru engineering

    • @JustSpReddit
      @JustSpReddit 10 місяців тому

      the problem is Subaru started whacking an STI badge on every car they made with very little differences to the base models, the STI name was beginning to feel a little dumbed down imo @@DanielKwetny

  • @grizzleypeak
    @grizzleypeak 2 місяці тому +3

    The manual transmission ones have a true 50/50 front/rear power distribution which makes them absolute beasts in the snow. Too bad they have discontinued manuals in all but WRX and BRZ. Bring back the manuals, Subaru.... CVT sucks and is a deal breaker for me. Same with the giant touchscreen. After 5 Subarus I 'll be shopping other brands when my '17 manual Crosstrek wears out.

  • @nope1918
    @nope1918 11 місяців тому +5

    Uhh... the boxer engine does not have less moving parts. An I4 only has two camshafts, Boxer has four (cause two cylinder banks instead of one). There are a lot of advantages to the boxer engine but less complexity isn't one of them.

    • @throbbingshaft
      @throbbingshaft 10 місяців тому +2

      He was referring to less parts in the powertrain but was a bit misleading when he said it. The biggest advantage to a boxer is weight and throttle response. The cylinders oppose themselves which means there is no need for a counterweight.

    • @scurige
      @scurige 5 місяців тому +1

      A boxer never needs balancing shafts, most current I4 engines have a pair of counter rotating shafts. So it's the same number of parts; or the engine has increased part fatigue because of the vibration.

  • @mikewilliams6390
    @mikewilliams6390 Рік тому +5

    The subie boxer doesn't have less parts than an I4. When you compare an I4 AWD as a whole to subie then maybe yes..

    • @kyle-qw5yx
      @kyle-qw5yx 8 місяців тому

      Perhaps he just meant the design equates to less vibration throughout the engine

  • @sunset3052
    @sunset3052 4 місяці тому

    Very well explained, thank you Daniel!

  • @tomcriusel519
    @tomcriusel519 Рік тому

    WOW thanks to explain how working is it !

  • @Sean-yt1jn
    @Sean-yt1jn 11 місяців тому +2

    If they made a CVT without fake-shifting in the US I would buy one

    • @TomBattCG
      @TomBattCG 5 місяців тому

      There is no "fake shifting" in my 2015 Forester nor my 2019 Outback ... just smooth snow mobile like acceleration from start to highway speed. 😄

    • @Sean-yt1jn
      @Sean-yt1jn 5 місяців тому

      @@TomBattCG oh really? Could have sworn I had heard it did. I'll have to check them out then

    • @sampizza463
      @sampizza463 4 місяці тому

      Buy a manual. Been driving a 5 speed crosstrek for a year now. Fun car and makes driving more enjoyable especially since its only got about 150 hp 😂.

    • @Sean-yt1jn
      @Sean-yt1jn 4 місяці тому

      @@sampizza463 would but my wife cant drive stick and it would be mostly her car. Plus dont you lose the fancy 4wd with manual? If not thats pretty cool

  • @mrld3005
    @mrld3005 7 місяців тому +2

    But the question is where can we buy those toy chassis?

  • @ChrisC-fp9qu
    @ChrisC-fp9qu Рік тому +2

    I'm waiting to buy the 2024 Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness.

    • @DanielKwetny
      @DanielKwetny  Рік тому

      Nice! I can't wait to see one myself!

    • @ericpizarro3084
      @ericpizarro3084 Рік тому +1

      I owns a 2021 Crosstrek Sport and feel tempted to trade it in for a Wilderness but, will hold myself. The Crosstrek is a magical car. I previously owned an Outback and then a WRX(with lots of modifications) “pulled over 300WHP”. At the end it was time for me to move on at 65. All I can tell is that the Crosstrek suspension is as close as it can be to the WRX. All Subarus handling are superb. Much better than Toyota and Honda.

  • @justincisson4702
    @justincisson4702 16 днів тому

    Kinda wish daniel had been my sales person 😂❤

  • @MrDeapGamingMedia
    @MrDeapGamingMedia Рік тому +3

    It doesn't necessary mean it has a lower center of gravity that the car will roll less. What Subaru made the car to have more compliance while having somewhat similar body roll.

  • @scottanthony3426
    @scottanthony3426 10 місяців тому +1

    "Hybrid" was briefly mentioned. Other than a decade ago when they put a mild hybrid in the Crosstrek, what hybrid are you talking about? Subaru has lagged behind Toyota and Honda in making the Forester/Outback/Crosstrek a hybrid. However, Toyota achieves "AWD" in their hybrids by using solely electric motors in the rear (so no drive shaft to the rear). If/when Subaru moves to hybrids, I'll be curious as to their approach. Are they going to abandon the mechanical RWD, and their trademark "Symmetrical AWD" system? I haven't seen much testing/info on how well the electric only rear wheels actually works from a traction perspective when road surfaces get slick and snow/mud gets deeper, nor the test where wheels on one side are on a more grippy surface than the other side ("split mu" they used to call it.) Any info out there? I've had my '14 Forester XT since Fall '13, and am starting to consider replacements.

    • @DanielKwetny
      @DanielKwetny  10 місяців тому

      Other than the battery hybrid Crosstrek from a decade ago, there was also a plug-in hybrid version of the previous model Crosstrek (2018 to 2023), but only available in select markets.
      I haven’t dove into the mechanics of the AWD on those hybrids.. not exactly sure.
      Looking forward, there is a Forester Hybrid planned for the 2025 model year. Maybe it will capture your interest :)

  • @alanlangley7246
    @alanlangley7246 10 місяців тому +1

    need a stock oil pan with more baffles in it

  • @stubbsmuffin
    @stubbsmuffin Місяць тому

    Boxer engines have more moving parts than an inline engine. Two heads with two cam shafts a piece.

  • @jayropeda7445
    @jayropeda7445 Рік тому +1

    great music, adele

  • @KLSYFY
    @KLSYFY Рік тому

    Very interesting... Thanks man!

  • @shawnruzek5378
    @shawnruzek5378 9 місяців тому

    Cool, but can you make a bumper/wheel well/air dam combination that doesn't fall apart?

  • @aleksandrnestrato
    @aleksandrnestrato 11 місяців тому

    0:28 More true to say 'any internal combustion Subaru', cause diesel powered Subarus have the same layout.
    _"What makes the Subaru brand different..."_ As far as I understand, automotive industry goes into electric. What will make Subaru brand different then? If you in fact have a motor in the front, a motor in the rear and a big battery under the floor between those two.

    • @DanielKwetny
      @DanielKwetny  11 місяців тому

      Good call on EV’s… so far the Solterra differentiates itself with better ground clearance than most competition (8.3”), and stable AWD tuning. Seems like less chance of wheel spin than other brands, but of course this can be controlled via software.. it’s gonna be an interesting future for Subaru!
      Hybrids might be the bridge, at least in North America.. rumours of 2025 Forester Hybrid

  • @DIYmotorcycle
    @DIYmotorcycle 6 місяців тому

    I would love to have a new Subaru I hear they're coming out with the brat again but you can only get Subarus now with the CVT transmission. I would be much happier with a five or six speed manual this is why I don't bother I'll just keep driving my 2001 Forester.

    • @DanielKwetny
      @DanielKwetny  6 місяців тому

      Makes sense to me. When the time is right, you could look for as new as a 2022 Crosstrek 6-spd, or 2018 Forester 6-spd. They had manuals in those up to those years. 01 Forester is great

    • @4dscdriver
      @4dscdriver 6 місяців тому

      They still have 6spd manual wrx's and brz's.

  • @MusicLuv80
    @MusicLuv80 8 місяців тому

    Which Subaru model best for off roading?

    • @DanielKwetny
      @DanielKwetny  8 місяців тому

      The Wilderness series is best. Outback Wilderness will be the most powerful, but also the largest. Have a look at Forester Wilderness, and also Crosstrek Wilderness

    • @MusicLuv80
      @MusicLuv80 8 місяців тому

      @@DanielKwetny Thank you so much for your help. Will check them out.

  • @jhonrutger3508
    @jhonrutger3508 Рік тому +1

    I like subarus but there prices are getting pretty stupid.

  • @KuyaPow626
    @KuyaPow626 10 місяців тому

    What would happen if Subaru made a 6 cylinder boxer?

    • @Ed123
      @Ed123 10 місяців тому

      They actually do that. It is a disaster! Look for Scotty Kilmer's reviews.

    • @DanielKwetny
      @DanielKwetny  10 місяців тому

      They have! It’s called H6 and found in Outbacks and Legacies. More powerful and smoother than the 4 cylinder. Fuel hungry of course

  • @Jackthesmilingblack
    @Jackthesmilingblack Рік тому +2

    I've owned just about all the Subaru range both in UK as grey imports and in Japan. If you have to drive on uphill compacted snow, then forget Subaru. Without diff-lock in addition to 4WD and LSD and obviously snow tyres, you're not going anywhere fast. And engine outside the wheelbase is a negative aspect. However, at least you can handbrake a Subaru round a hairpin bend, a major advantage where I live. At auction here in Japan, any Subaru approaching 100,000 km is discounted into the ground, presumably when head gasket and timing belt problems loom large.
    Obviously, if you want performance, then go for the Sti Subaru. However, I've driven the Mitsubishi Pajero with its over-engineered transmission since I relocated to the Japan Alps some 15 years ago. Cheap as chips at auction.
    Jack, the Japan Alps Brit

    • @joewhite9183
      @joewhite9183 Рік тому +2

      never stopped my 2013 3.6 R outback you need some real tires ...

  • @secton832
    @secton832 Рік тому +1

    meanwhile me, who bought the only 2wd only Subaru they currently make

    • @DanielKwetny
      @DanielKwetny  Рік тому +1

      Let's go BRZ!

    • @secton832
      @secton832 Рік тому +1

      ​@@DanielKwetnygot myself a 2023 Sport-Tech 6mt in Pearl white.
      Such a good car

  • @lonecrusaider
    @lonecrusaider 2 місяці тому

    You just can't beat a Subaru. Audi is the only car that even comes close. All vehicles in their owners manual say you can void your warranty by driving on even a dirt road (Chevy, Dodge, Ford) but the Subaru owners manual encourages you to take it off road, AND tells you what to take with you and how to self recover... You just can't beat a Subaru.

  • @chrisnoteboom5577
    @chrisnoteboom5577 8 місяців тому +1

    some kind of rave going in the background!

  • @nasreddinekhamri8256
    @nasreddinekhamri8256 Рік тому

    What is the type of cars 4x4 ??

    • @DanielKwetny
      @DanielKwetny  Рік тому

      Yes, Subaru AWD

    • @PH-md8xp
      @PH-md8xp Рік тому

      @@DanielKwetny AWD and 4X4 are similar in some ways but are not the same thing.

    • @Athiril
      @Athiril Рік тому

      @@PH-md8xpAWD is full time 4WD, 4x4 typically refers to part time 4WD.
      “Locking differentials” you can get these too, but they are often upgrade for “4x4s” which often simply come with open front and rear diffs stock. So that’s not it.
      “Low range” you can get many Subarus with low range, and this is also not what makes a “4x4” so that’s not it either.

  • @benjaminjwilson6694
    @benjaminjwilson6694 Рік тому +1

    My '24 outback wilderness has a ton of body roll. Just as bad as my f150. It's scary going interstate speeds.

    • @cbrown596
      @cbrown596 Рік тому

      How many windshields have you replaced?

    • @benjaminjwilson6694
      @benjaminjwilson6694 Рік тому

      @@cbrown596 zero so far, bought it end of july so still pretty new-just over 4k miles.
      I do have a few rock chips in it from the two-plus thousand-mile road trip I finished up a few weeks back.

    • @gguy1338
      @gguy1338 Рік тому

      @@benjaminjwilson6694is that 2k miles of twisty road? Or you drive it like a rally car😅

    • @igor-rp5mw
      @igor-rp5mw 11 місяців тому

      I drive my Subarus like a rally car no windshields cracked.
      Each of them survived The Dragon 10th of times.
      There is one that made 100 trips to The Dragon and survived each of them.
      Great 4 cyl. Car that can do it all.

    • @simd510
      @simd510 10 місяців тому

      Weird.. i test drove an outback and didnt notice any body roll

  • @adventureswitheddie6444
    @adventureswitheddie6444 6 місяців тому

    Bald guy needs an sti hat

  • @jerryclleung
    @jerryclleung 11 місяців тому +2

    If only their engines were just as “special” and NOT “oil consumption specials”

    • @DanielKwetny
      @DanielKwetny  11 місяців тому +1

      My 2022 WRX has not lost a drop, and oil is clear. 20k Km in, 2 oil changes. I checked the oil 2 days ago. I was impressed

    • @heh2k
      @heh2k 10 місяців тому +1

      2008 spec b, no oil burning. It's bmw and nissan who were known of that, but it can happen to any car.

    • @softwarephil1709
      @softwarephil1709 2 місяці тому +2

      We have two 2018 Forester XT. Neither one uses any oil between changes. We’ve had no problems at all.

    • @jerryclleung
      @jerryclleung 2 місяці тому

      @@softwarephil1709 the XT is the 2.0 turbo I believe. The oil consumption only involved the 2.5 non turbo models. But that car of mine has been long gone, good riddance, even after a block replacement, still burned oil. SMH!

  • @sergeyg436
    @sergeyg436 8 місяців тому

    Why nobody else uses the same "wonderful" type of AWD?

    • @DanielKwetny
      @DanielKwetny  7 місяців тому

      It’s not as fuel efficient as part time AWD systems, but Subaru has perfected theirs to where fuel econ difference is minimal and in some cases negligible.
      Boxer engine is also considered an older design, but again Subaru has perfected their manufacturing and design over time

  • @Vipppala
    @Vipppala 10 місяців тому +1

    maybe if they still put out proper manuals or atleast more proper automatics, not those trash cvts. Like who thought the wrx should be cvt ?

  • @scottfromrallysubaru5439
    @scottfromrallysubaru5439 7 місяців тому

    Our display broke so I get to use imagination

  • @yablebab
    @yablebab 11 місяців тому

    That's all well and good but no way I'll fit in such a tiny car

  • @fjaajf
    @fjaajf 4 місяці тому

    What is Linus doing here?

  • @Mr00934
    @Mr00934 11 місяців тому

    MAKE ME A 10K PICKUP SUBARU AND ILL BUY IT. OTHERWISE I WAIT FOR A 10K PU FROM FORD, GM OR TOYOTA

  • @kevinwest1607
    @kevinwest1607 11 місяців тому +1

    Most over hyped car in the world.

  • @cop2506
    @cop2506 6 місяців тому +2

    Those are all really great points, but Subaru refuses to make a plug-in hybrid outback
    Until they combine their forces with Toyota to make a plug-in, hybrid, Subaru outback, I won’t be buying the Subaru anytime soon

  • @OsightblinderO
    @OsightblinderO Рік тому +1

    Corolla drivers WISH they had a 4th cylinder. They last l room to grow and plateau fast.

    • @peeposadboy
      @peeposadboy Рік тому +1

      lol yet it’s faster than the STI. Interesting how that works isn’t it? Don’t even lie to yourself. The Corolla GR engine is a far better developed engine than the ancient EJ

  • @ddavideo
    @ddavideo 10 місяців тому +1

    Please stop telling these marketing lies.
    If performance (road holding) is of high importance, the fore/after balance is critical to delivery such, not the left and right. The H4 configuration of the boxer engine is a bummer to meet such balance as the only way to place the engine (too wide to be between the front wheels) is to put it in front of the front wheels...hence, fore/after balance towards the front (58%+ at the front)...hence, severe understeering characteristics.
    If you will, talking about left and right balance, while the majority of turns in North America are right turn (ramp to freeway etc), then a right hand weight bias car would perform better. While the driver is sitting on one side, the so call symmetrical set up would make things worse as it won't able to compensate for the weight (left/right) imbalance.
    On less moving parts of a boxer engine...totally wrong. The H4 has 4 cam shafts + associated driving links as each side of the cylinder block would need its own cam mechanism (unlike inline 4 which can be shared across all cylinders). There might be a minor smaller numbers of parts in a 4WD gearbox set up from the H4 due to its engine orientation (my Mercedes C300 4Matic has the same fore/after engine orientation as the H4).
    It's a joke that Subaru brings up the lower centre of gravity topic. While looking at most of Subaru's models has close to or more than 6" of ground clearance. That might be the key reason that you have mentioned that the H4's lower centre of gravity as most of the Subaru models ride very high (even the WRS has a 5.3" ground clearance vs. Golf R's 4.7").

  • @joekowalski182
    @joekowalski182 Рік тому +1

    If you are wealthy and can afford repairs on Subarus go for it very expensive cars to maintain.

    • @DanielKwetny
      @DanielKwetny  Рік тому +1

      I think it's relative... Might be a touch more expensive than Toyota or Honda, similar to Mazda. Still less pricey repairs than German and American brands - in my experience..

    • @JustSpReddit
      @JustSpReddit 10 місяців тому +1

      learn to work on your own cars, Subaru engines are extremely easy to work on and 80% of the cost you pay to maintain a vehicle goes towards the mechanic.

  • @Doc1855
    @Doc1855 Рік тому +7

    The CVT SUCKS !
    It robs the engine of hp, torque and mpg.
    When you need to get on a short on ramp or pass someone , you stomp the gas pedal to the floor. The engine jumps to 6K RPMs and the engine is painfully slow.

    • @martinr8278
      @martinr8278 Рік тому +6

      Really? Never had an issue. Neither do people I know that own various years and models. Btw the cvt comment is such a refresh! Awesome, that has never been said. Thankfully you didn’t know that because cvt and head gasket comments are mostly from outdated angry people. Enjoy the trails, I just hope it’s not in a crv or rav4. Yikes

    • @Doc1855
      @Doc1855 Рік тому

      @@martinr8278 when I mash my gas pedal to the floor to get up to speed or to pass someone, the RPMs jump up to 6K and the engine takes forever to get up and go.
      I know that Subaru had issues with the head gaskets in the past, but I bought my Forester Touring last year and I’ll be selling it ASAP to buy a geared Toyota.

    • @whatiscyber
      @whatiscyber Рік тому

      ​@@Doc1855you just said the engine jumps up to 6K, that means the engine is already going. So does it take forever to get up there, or is it jumping up there fast?

    • @Doc1855
      @Doc1855 Рік тому

      @@whatiscyber At 65mph the engine is normally running at 1800rpm, but when you stomp on the gas pedal, the engine jumps to 5K-6K RPMs, which is too high for optimal torque, so the engine is relying on horsepower alone. 182hp is Nothing compared with other vehicles today.
      Heck the Rav hybrid has 219hp.
      My previous 11 Rav had the 269hp 3.5 V6 and a 5spd automatic transmission and it got 27mpg on the highway with the cruise set on 75mph.
      My current Forester Touring with 182hp and a CVT gets 24-26 mpg.
      Had I known that the GUTLESS Forester would get less mpg with 182hp than my 269hp Rav, I would’ve never sold my Rav and bought my Forester.

    • @DanielKwetny
      @DanielKwetny  Рік тому

      I know what you're saying.. I personally like the CVT. I wouldn't want to go back to geared. CVT does marvels for fuel econ, and is smoother. Less moving components. To feel power, it needs to be paired to a turbo engine. I'm sure you would enjoy the sensation in an Outback XT, for example. Wish we still sold a turbo Forester...