Ducati Gearbox Problems, Broken Shift Return Spring or Fork Return Spring EN / DE Subtitles
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2022
- Ducati Multistrada gearbox problems & issues. Broken - Shift return spring, fork return spring, gear selector spring and gear lever return spring. These are the common names used to describe the 2 springs that normally fail behind the left-hand side generator case / cover.
All Multistrada 1200 and 1260 models, all Monster 1200 models and all Diaval and XDiaval models 2010 to 2022 use the exact same springs for the shift return mechanism, so the information in this video will help lots of Ducati owners.
This is the fifth video in a series about buying and ownership of a Ducati Multistrada and my personal long-term experience over 3 years and 20,000 km.
This video is Part 4, all about gearbox issues and problems, and the common problems and how you can fix them.
The Ducati Multistrada does have some other important issues you need to be aware of, so I am going to cover the common problems, tyre choice, comfort, brakes and maintenance, touring, servicing, electrical issues, gearbox problems, modifications and the exhaust system.
I am going to share my honest, straight forward review of what you can expect from buying a used Ducati Multistrada and the issues and problems I have experienced and how to fix them.
I hope to upload 1 new video each week during this first season, so please Subscribe and press the Bell notification button (This will help the channel grow and develop) and of course you will be notified when the next episode is uploaded. Thank-You, Carl
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Don’t own a Ducati yet but it is on my next bike short list. Having watched several of your vids I am now a subscriber. Several reasons! Informative, not nerdy, very well put together, explained in simple terms and you care enough to put these vids together to help the biking world. Well done and Thank you!
Hi Trevor, thats exactly why I make them. Thankyou for the compliment and welcome to the channel. They are lovely bikes.... smile.
Regards Carl
Very well produced, am grateful for your efforts.
Hi Tim , welcome to the channel and Thank-you.... Carl
Thanks for this. Hadn’t heard of this issue before. I know several owners of the affected models, including one guy who put over 60k miles on a 2014 GT model.
Glad to help!
Thanks so much. No broken springs yet but I do have a VERY clunky gearbox, horrible time finding neutral, etc. Next time I do an oil change, I’ll open up side case and take a look at all you have mentioned.
Hello DrWho.. the adjustment of the two springs makes a lot of difference. Take your time and try to get the main balance spring perfectly even both sides. Have fun...
Carl
I had the very same issue, although I was still able to use the bike. First I knew was part of the spring on the sump plug. Very informative video for lining up the lever mechanism. Thank you very much sir. Ducati Monster 1200s 2017.
Hi Neil, your welcome. I know it's not a very common issue or problem but when it happens...its not nice. Glad you were lucky too, with the part of the spring that broke off. Best wishes Carl
Excellent video tutorial...easy as ABC.
Hi Terry, welcome to the channel and thank you for the compliment. Glad you enjoyed it. Best wishes Carl
Thank You so much for these videos 👍
Thank-you, i hope they will help new owners over the comming years. Carl
Thnx for this movie. It was very helpful. Same on 2014 Hypermotard ..🙂
Hi David Thankyou 👍, glad it helped you with your Hypermotard, great bike 👍, regards Carl
Just a couple things you didn't mention. First, tools required.
1. You need a 30mm deep socket to loosen the flywheel, and it had better be a good one because the flywheel torques at 300Nm. Note that a normal depth socket will not even get close.
2. You need a Ducati special tool to hold the flywheel for loosening and tightening. As far as I can tell, you can only get this from Ducati - if anyone else has an equivalent I couldn't find it.
3. You need a torque wrench rated to over 300 Nm - I think the correct torque is 310. Most torque wrenches don't go that high, typical limit is 220Nm or so.
Then, just a caveat. When removing the bolts around the alternator cover, there is at least one just above the shift mechanism which is quite well hidden, especially if you have a lot of chain grease splatter built up over a couple of years - make sure you go around the cover extremely carefully and remove ALL the bolts.
Another note which I guess might be obvious but perhaps not.
It is not necessary to drain the coolant system. If you remove the outer coolant pipe from the alternator and let it drain into a container, then do the same with the other two pipes in turn, you will have drained enough fluid to be able to leave the rest of the coolant in place. You should only have to refill less than one litre of coolant, as this is quite expensive this cuts down on cost of the operation.
Finally, reassembly. When putting the alternator cover back on, two things.
First, for easier alignment it really helps to have several pieces of 6mm threaded rod (about 70 - 100mm depending on the hole) to act as temporary guides, which helps enormously with alignment - more difficult than it looks.
Secondly, note that there are (I think, from memory) 4 bolts around the alternator which are longer or shorter or special. I would advise taking pics of these as you take them out to assist with reassembling correctly.
A very last remark. I guess you can do this job with the bike on the main stand or a paddock stand, but with the bike that low it really is a pain, especially if you are my age. Bending down that low wrecks me after an hour or two and it is very difficult to see what you are doing at the lower end of the job. If you are going to be doing this kind of work you might want to consider getting an abba skylift or equivalent. I use the abba, it is pretty good. I can't comment on the other manufacturers. I use it for oil changes as well, makes it easy as opposed to a total pain.
Hi Clive
Thank you for sharing your experience and very helpful tips with the other owners 👍
You have covered a lot in your message that will help other owners who also tackle this job at home.
I decided not to make a How To video because it is a fairly complex job that requires a certain skill level but the comments you have made will definitely assist others, so thank you.
One thing to add is the cooling system which you mentioned, I ended up pressure refilling my system with a home made rig to remove trapped air in the system just like a dealership would. Because air can get trapped in the system. Their are some great videos covering this on Ducati forums.
Thank you again I hope your bike is now fixed and running smoothly and your now enjoying spring arriving.
Ride safe
Carl
@@justthewayitis Hi Carl, I am certainly enjoying being able to ride the bike again, missed it a lot towards the end of a rather long exercise. I am in the southern hemisphere so winter approaching here, which, strangely enough, is actually biking season. Summer is mostly hot and often wet, not ideal - winter is typically dry and cool to cold (seldom below 5C) which is much easier to deal with, a very enjoyable season for biking.
All the best,
Clive.
Well enjoy your season 👍
Any chance you have a link to the torque settings for the alternator case bolts?
motorcycleinfo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Multistrada_1200_Torque_Settings.pdf
Thank you for this video. It's well done e very clear. I've the same problem in my Ducati SS900IE and to watch this tutorial is very very useful before start with the labor.
Thank you Michele, and I wish you lots of success with you work. Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitisjust a question. Did you use some tool to avoid the flywheel rotation in the M24 nut removal?
Hi good evening, I used an impact gun with a air compressor. But I carefully made a mark on the flywheel, and nut before I started so that I knew exactly where it was before removal. You can make a small mark with a dot punch. But there is a proper Ducati tool which holds the flywheel in place, and I think I have seen a third party version for sale online which does the same thing for half price. Also, if your friendly with your local dealer they might let you borrow it. Some dealers are very good like that. I hope that helps. Carl
@@justthewayitis Hi Carl, it's very clear and thank you so much again.
The suggestion to punch a little dot mark is a very good.
Ufortunately the dealer is quite far... so I prefer to try by milself with impact gun.
Thank you again for your availability and your help. Bye.
I had that happen 25 years ago on a Pantah SL 600 and the pieces of that spring ended up going straight to my pick-ups in my ignition, the mechanic spent time looking all over the inside for little pieces of spring. The funny part was that the bike shifted perfectly but ran like crap. It was shattered. Replacing it wasn't that big a issue, I think it was about an hr of labor and the part wasn't more than $20.
Hi Richard, lovely bike, a classic now 👍
I have an older 748 1997 cast dates, the engine has about 18,000 miles on it, I just broke the shifter tab stop off the shifter fork, I thought it was the return spring for the shifter pawl as your video shows, and that service bulletin was issued late 2010 for the spring upgrade, however upon inspecting my shifter fork lower tab on the fork opposite the hook side of the shifter was broken off, fortunately the small tab fell into the top part of the left case, and not through the center of the hollow shifter drum, and from there it could have found it's way into the gear box ugg glad that didn't happen. I was able to weld the tip back on after grinding the crack out some, then carefully jigged the two parts back together, and welded it with a mig welder. There is ample room on the inner radius of the 90 degree tab for welding that area in for added strength, which I carefully filleted in with weld, I might suggest having the shifter fork replaced or modified by a welder with a tig, as opposed to a mig, it just looks cleaner, and there better access with a tig with a smaller bead. I did not see a need to re-harden the tip as the very tip where the shifter drum stop pins hit it were still hard after welding, I used mild steel wire in my mig so there will be some amount of malleability in the radius, instead of it being brittle which is probably why the tab broke off.
Thank you for sharing, it sounds like you had some luck with the broken tab falling onto a safe place. Luckily you have the skills and equipment to repair it. Carl
Thank you once again for such a detailed and useful video!
Hi Alan, thank you, your very welcome. Best wishes Carl
Carl. Your videos are fantastic. I am putting mine back together after repairing the shift return spring and noticed that to use the flywheel holding tool, you need to use the bolt locations where the kickstand and frame are located. It looks like you have to take off the kickstand and possibly a section of the frame. What did you use to hold your flywheel and keep it from moving? If I have to pull off a section of the frame I may weld my flywheel tool to a couple hundred pounds of I-beam that will sit on the floor to keep it from moving instead of bolting to the frame.
Hi C47, thank you for your feedback 🙏.
I used a home made device to hold the flywheel in place using levers and bars and scrap metal I had in the workshop, I didn’t take any pictures because it was a home made tool.
But you are correct you can use various chassis mounting points to hold it firm, because as you know the flywheel nut needs to be torqued to a high degree.
When you reassemble yours double check the oil port position is correct on the inside of the flywheel as it’s responsible for keeping the stator cooled (see video) .
Good luck with your rebuild and well done for having a go at it yourself 👍🙋🏻♂️
Best wishes Carl
I sold my MTS after this issue. Went to a dealer in Austria with this problem. I was on tour. They managed to change the position off the timingbelt during the procedure. Guess what after they started?! Offcourse they didn’t tell me it was their fault. “There is a gearbox problem.” I sued them and finally won.
Apart from that, I also didn’t like the bike because of the way to many (known) issues.
Without issues it was a great bike, but some owners have had zero problems 🤔 I guess I was a little unlucky, sorry to hear about your experience, not good.
Regards Carl
Great job I have a 2020 1200 monster and as I was bending the shift lever down from it being bend it’s stuck and won’t shift gears so I believe I’ll have to do this 😡
Hi Dillon, good luck with your repairs on your Monster 1200.
Regards Carl
it is very interesting, even though I never had a Ducati 😄
Hello and welcome to the channel, thank you for watching it’s a great bike hope you’ve been out a ride today 👍
Carl
@@justthewayitis thank you, yes i was. With my Suzuki v Strom 650 🤘
The 650 VStrom is a nice bike very underrated by the press.
Hi Carl,
thank you again for another great video.
This is nothing I would be fancy to do myself.
I assume the springs break because of material wear and not because of a certain way of shifting, right?
Can you give a recommendation, but what age of the machine or mileage one should replace the springs as a precaution?
Hi, not an easy question to answer some owners have owned their bikes from new and have 70K plus miles without issues.
I guess some owners are lucky others not.
No easy way to answer your question
Carl
@@justthewayitis thanks! So I decide to be in the lucky group.
Lol, that’s the best idea 🤞
Hello sir good day! Thank you for making this videos for the multistrada's as there are not a lot out there!👍🏻 I just recently bought a 2010 multistrada with 24,000 Km in it, Desmo service is up thats why I got the bike really cheap.. Im collecting all the parts and tools I need for the job at the moment and decided to tackle the shifter return springs too, they are not broken but I just want that peace of mind knowing I dont have to worry about them breaking while riding.however I would like to ask you if you can provide me the part number for the oil seal that you forgot to replace as im having hard time trying to find which oil seal is that.. Thank you 👍🏻
Hi Peter, nice bike and a nice little job you are doing, well done 👍
Sorry I don’t have part number I’ve looked but can’t find. Easiest thing is just ring a dealer and order one by post, they were 5€ ish I think
Thank you for the feedback
Carl
Thanks for a great overview. Quick question: Can the waterpump be left on the outer casing or best to take it off before pulling the left casing off?
Hi Andrew, i took mine off for inspection but i think you could leave it on. Good luck with your project 👍👍
@@justthewayitis 😎👍Noted and Thank you.
Nice smooth riding. Is that a Go Pro with a chin mount you're filming with, if so it gives a much more dynamic film than the camera I use, which is the Drift Ghost, I've been thinking about getting a Go Pro myself. Ride Safe, regards John
Hi John, welcome to the channel and good morning.
no GoPro used, I don’t like them.
It’s an insta 360 one X2 👍
Nice to know you like the footage it produces , the workflow is simple and it captures everything I need.
Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis Carl, I'm such a Plonker, I've commented on the wrong post, you must think I'm a Pork Pie short of a Picnic, however love your channel too, I'm just about the replac all the discs and pads on my 2015 1200 GS so I have some good info thanks to you. Regards John
Hi John, no problem, i thought that might be the case, but i did understand your comment. Good luck with your planned disc and pad change on your 1200GS.
Best wishes Carl
Great info well put, Thankyou for your help. You should meet / see my friend Tokyo Offroad, he does very similar with your level of detail.
Hi Hkcam, thank you for the suggestion 👍 I’ve now watched a couple of his videos and as you say they are high quality and very informative, and I could probably do with some off-road training as mine are minimal 🙄. Thank you for your feedback much appreciated. 🙏 There is a lot of rubbish on UA-cam and it’s great to find others that take it seriously.
Best wishes for your new year celebrations
Kind regards Carl
hello sir!! very helpful video thank you for your time spended for this video!
i would like to ask you i want to buy ducati 1200s multistrata (2012) with 39000 kmh
can you tell how expensive is this ducati to maintain? and it has some serious problem from the factory!
i saw your videos! thank u again!
Hi, yes they are expensive to service at a Ducati dealership, the service interval is at 24,000 km, so the bike you mention is going to need a BIG service very soon including the valve clearances check and adjustment. Here in Germany that will be approximately 750€ to 1000€
I have a used 2019 Ducati 1260s. With only about 6,200 miles and two months of daily driving it about 10 miles each way to and from work the gear box has a malfunction. 4th gear is out and the metal clicking and clanking going on inside the gearbox.
Hi Chad, welcome to the channel.
The gearbox is on the right side sitting on the bike, the left side looks like what I show in my video with the gear selector and starter assembly.
Don’t ride the multistrada until it’s been inspected. If your noise is from the left side it might just be the selector springs broken as I have shown, but if the noise is from the right side it may well be gearbox or the clutch assembly which would be unusual as they are normally very reliable.
Best to get it checked by your local dealer.
I’m sad to hear you have a problem
Let me know what your dealer finds
Regards Carl
Hello, thanks for the video.
On my M1000S ie MY03 57'000km I had the lower spring broken on a tour 500km away from home. Had to ride back home and it was difficult to downshift. Casing is off now and the broken spring part is on the bottom, huh I had so much luck.
My other M1000S ie MY05 87'000km is still ok. Should I change the spring precautionary in the same event I put the lighter flywheel on?
Hi Mommar, with that sort of mileage I would definitely do it 👍, once replaced your good for 30km.
Very informative video. Im having somewhat of the same problem. I dont see any broken springs, but i will change them out. However, my gear drum is stiff and wont move. Do you have any idea how i can get it back to work normal?
Hi, it’s very difficult to offer suggestions without seeing the bike and knowing exactly what the original problem was.
You don’t mention the actual problem? Was it the lever going loose….like mine or is it something else ?
I only had to remove the left side case, (to replace the broken shift assist springs) if you have an actual gear drum problem that’s behind the right side case cover.
Please reply with much more detail
Carl
Thanks for the reply. I did take apart the left side and everything seems normal with the exception of the drum. In your video you easily used a flat head to change the gear. When I tried to do the same it won't move. So maybe a drum issue? Is it possible to do a tutorial on that? Any help would be greatly appreciated
@rchinster4103
I have only had to remove the left side so can’t advise on the drum assembly, normally you can find great help on your local Ducati forums, a lot of members have detailed experience and can offer help and advice. Just make sure when you post your question you give as much background information as you can about the issues and include images.
I hope you resolve your problem 👍
I just picked up my multistrada and have encountered 2 issues. The battery is not holding it’s charge. If left for more than 2 days it will not start. A new battery should resolve that issue. The second happened this evening. After riding home I was unable to change up from 2nd gear it would hit false neutral. Luckily I was only about 5miles from home so limped it home. I will call the garage and see what they say, but presume it is a similar issue as you have covered in this video.
The battery on the Multistrada is a weak point, if its 5 years or more old, plus the bike has been sitting at a dealer for several months, it’s probably the battery that has died. A Deep charge cycle might bring it back.
Re- the gear shift, is the gear lever loose, (like I explained in the video), if yes… then it might be one of the shift springs broken. But if the gear lever is NOT loose, there might be another problem. The Gear Position Sensor on the rear of the engine on the right hand side is a really common problem, I think a call to the dealer is the first thing to do. Sorry to hear your news…. Carl.
Hi, did you get the problem fixed ?
Is everything ok now with your Multistrada. Carl
@@justthewayitis Hi Carl, thanks for asking, the garage couldn’t replicate the issue, but did replace the battery under warranty. Since then I have rode the bike for about 600 miles and can’t seem to recreate the problem. So I guess it is ok.
Hi Lushman, brilliant news indeed, I am pleased its okay and you are still enjoying your Silver beauty. So many systems on our bikes rely on the correct battery voltage. Carl
Hi,why its drop from 2nd gear to neutral when i decelerate my ducati diavel 1200.i know its dosent multistrada but he has the same engine.
Can you help me? Ty
Hi, sadly the news is not good, I think you should go to your dealer, and you need a new shift drum fitted to your Diavel, Ducati know about this problem and it's very common, in the first few years Ducati fixed the problem under warranty but they stopped doing this a few years ago.
Sorry to give you the bad news
Carl
When that happened would bike start up?
Something similar happened to me but I was in gear 4 and back tire sized and stock on 4th gear it will go up gear but can’t drop it to neutral also the bike won’t start.
Yet to find out if is the spring or actual gearbox sized
Good luck with your dismantling, if you have a problem don’t start the bike until you have found the issue
Carl
Having a problem with my new to me 1198s. 2 km into it and I hit a false neutral, locking the shifter. A long walk home followed.
I've found no broken springs so I'm reassembling and readjusting the arm.
Question: the two bolts that hold the shift mechanism. They go through the oblong adjustment holes: their washers are serated on one face. Do these serrations face down on the plate or face up contacting the underside of the bolt heads?
Hi, they should face down towards the engine, away from the bolts. Make sure you use the correct bolt torque and have the spacing set correctly. Sometimes it just happens and you cant find anything wrong. Sorry to hear it happened to you just after buying it.
Is the flywheel nut a 34mm? Also will the magnet/gear slide right off the spline? Thank u in advance
Hi Xavier, welcome to the channel, it’s been a while since a dig this work but I think the nut was 30mm I could be wrong. Yes the assembly just slides off without any force. Use loctite when re assembling and 330nm torque setting.
Good luck with your project
Carl
Just had the exact same problem on my Hypermotard and Ive got everything apart and rattled off the flywheel nut ok, my question is how did you hold the flywheel to torque the nut back on as the ducati holding tool is crazy money?
Hi Matt I marked the flywheel before taking it off, then took it back to the the same place with the impact gun plus added 5 to 10° plus... loctite on the end of the thread.
I tried using various bars to hold the flywheel to set the torque correctly, but decided I might damage the case and or the flywheel... so decided to take the above route.
Hope that helps you, well done for done the work yourself.
Carl
@@justthewayitis Thanks Carl, shame its such a big job for a £3 spring huh, I'd be sick if I had to pay dealer labour to fix this. Great video, very straight forward, keep it up.
Hi Matt, yes it's not nice if you have to pay the dealer for this. The same 2 springs are used on many Ducati twins.
Glad the video helped and I presume you were lucky and the broken part was at the bottom of the Stator housing for you...
Best wishes Carl
How did you immobilize your flywheel to get the nut off? There's a special tool (that I don't have obviously.) I don't want to just lock the rear wheel and put it in gear, since there are rubber belts that could be stretched.
Hi Malcom, I used a mixture of metal bars to lock everything in place, similar results to the tool you mentioned.
@@justthewayitis Sounds good. I assumed you did something similar. I've started fabbing some brackets up.
I wish you lots of success with your repair project. Carl
@@justthewayitis Thanks Carl! Trying to get this 848 track bike ready for the weekend.
Add my hyperstrada to the list. Lost a few weeks of the season waiting for them to get the part and do the job. My recommendation to your friend: Enjoy the Duc, but have the Yammie or Suzuki in the garage. I bought a Suzuki, and one main reason - I didn't want to lose any more of riding seasons. Really enjoy the bike - like a swiss watch. Also learned what good brakes feel like..... Both bikes compliment each other nicely - a V-twin and an I4. To be fair, the duc has over 40k miles of hard fully loaded riding on it. Not a fragile flower, but it "of a certain age".
Thanks a Lot for the shared information! --> Like and Abo!🤌
This just happend to me. I hope that the broken Part is also still inside the casing and didn´t went into the engine... So now I know that also the older engines have this Problem.. Monster 1100 Evo. If i find the Time i will check it next weekend...🤞
Good luck with your repairs. It’s a common issue. I hope you find the parts in the left hand case.
Best wishes Carl
The clutch master cylinder has 3 screws with a hex bolt. How do you remove when they’re stripped?😢 They were in movable, and are now stripped. Help?
It’s fairly easy but you need to buy/ order 3 new bolts from Ducati first.
Then you can slowly and carefully drill out/off the head of each bolt, go slowly and it will be fine.
The bolts then can be removed once you have moved the master cylinder out of the way.
Carl
@@justthewayitis success! Uploaded a short on the topic. ua-cam.com/users/shortstwT3n1ir3II?feature=share
When i click on the link it takes me to an error page ?
When you remove those gears before the cleaning process,does it matter how they are put back together?(excluding the one which has to be aligned with the cut out)
Hi, on the crankshaft it all needs to be correctly aligned so the oil feed is free to do it's job. On the others I used tipex or you can use a dot of paint to make sure everything goes back exactly how you remove it.
Has your spring broken? Was it the upper or lower spring?
FYI, you should make sure you find all the spring parts to make sure nothing dropped into the engine
@@justthewayitis Yes it has broken, don't know which one, haven't started the job yet but I was luckily able to ride the bike for 10km to my garage as it happened.Luckily without any grinding sounds,just waiting on some parts and once i do the job i will let you know
Ok, good luck, it’s not to hard to do just go slow and photograph / take pictures as you go just in case you need to look back.
I wish you success
Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitisI am in the process. I have a problem with the jam nut and the eccentric pin. When i tighten the jam nut,there is too much free play side to side and the mechanism is not held fest when in the bike. When i loosen the jam nut,there is no more free play side to side,but there is flex around the eccentric pin,because the jam nut is not tight...I would love to send you a video somehow
@@justthewayitiswell I have found out the spring was defective(original ducati part). I have replaced it and I have no more free play,buttoned everything up and found oil weeping through the case at the bottom seal😢. Havent applied threebond properly,do you spread it around with your fingers or no?
Did you need to use a fly wheel gear holder like others say is necessary? Or can you break that nut of the fly wheel (and put back on) without the holder?
Hi welcome to the channel, I used an impact gun to remove it and a home made holder to refit the nut to the correct torque setting. Carl
@@justthewayitis any suggestions on how to hold the pieces to get that nut tight enough without Ducati holder?
Two helpful friends and 2 small crowbars or very large screwdrivers.
I know it’s not easy but if your that far along with the job. Your almost there 😊 don’t be tempted to put in gear as the torque is huge and it may damage a gear tooth.
How did you get on ?
@@justthewayitis lol. I didn’t get it off yet or on. I was totally tempted to put in 6th and crank with friction from the tire.
Fuel contsumption ,and oil contsuption of the ducati
Hi Danny and welcome to the channel. Good questions. Fuel efficiency is actually brilliant...54mpg everywhere no matter how I ride. Oil consumption is also v v good, normally zero top ups between services, only once have I had to top up in 26k km.
Hope that helps
Best wishes Carl
How did you pull the foot shifter off?
Do you mean the gear lever ?
It comes off very easily
For more details read the comments section below
Clive has added some great extra detail to help owners do the job
A few weeks ago I took my motorcycle to the dealer for repair. the spring in the gearbox was broken. they made this nicely. after this I picked up my motorcycle but I noticed a strange sound. the engine makes a knocking sound. it sounds like a crankshaft bearing. went back to the dealer, he says this is normal. I don't think this sound is normal. do you know what could have gone wrong with the repair where they replaced the spring? after the repair I went on holiday with it. drove it for 2000km. If it was the crankshaft, I think it would have broken. I would like to have your expertise. the dealer won't help me.
Hi Luc, sorry to hear you have had problems with the gearbox selector spring, it is a common problem. As to your question its very hard for me to give you an answer, because I don't know what your engine sounded like before the repairs and I don't know what it sounds like now... and I have no idea what the dealer has actually done in terms of repairs.
But as you have done 2,000km since the repairs its unlikely you have any real big issues with the crankshaft, because if you did it would have failed fairly quickly after the repairs.
However, it shouldn't "have a knocking sound", yes the engines are lumping at tick over but once running they are normally fine.
The flywheel is balanced and has to be fitted exactly in the same position its removed and it has an important oil port that needs correct alignment during re-assembly, it is possible to put the flywheel back on in the wrong position. but i doubt a official Ducati dealer would get this wrong.
My only other thought is that there was other damage caused by the spring breaking and part of the spring might have damaged some teeth on a gear ( left hand side) or somehow got into the gearbox side of the engine ( right hand side) and caused some other damage.
But again the dealer should have made 100% sure all the parts of the spring have been found and collected.
The only other thing you could do is find someone with the same year model as yours and have a careful listen, maybe the dealer can arrange this for you, so that you can confirm all is ok yourself.
lose or incorrectly tensioned timing belts can also cause engine knocking at idle speed. Make sure your oil level is correct, and i would suggest you visit a different Ducati dealer and ask to speak to the Master Technician and have him listen to your engine.
Sorry i cant offer more help, best wishes
Carl
@@justthewayitis Hi Karl, thanks for the quick response. the engine sounded much less mechanical before the repair than after. even people with a non-mechanic background now hear the difference. What I'm going to do is ask another specialist for advice. After this I will watch your video carefully again and check everything myself.
Your idea is good 👍, please let me know how you get on Luc.
Carl
I have the same problem. Can i drive it?
Hi, no.. my advice is not to ride your motorbike, you can’t take the risk of the broken spring moving into a location that may cause terminal engine damage.
Best to strip it down and find the broken spring parts and make sure you locate all of them.
Sorry to give you the bad news
Carl
@@justthewayitis I had to drive 500 km to the nearest service and everything went great
That’s great news you were very lucky 🍀👍
Mine broke and a part of it went in the engine and blew the motor .
Hi Shaun, not good did you replace the motor or replace the Multistrada?
Carl
@@justthewayitis it was on my 1098 got a good used motor and rebuilding my old one ,did a conrod bearing and crankshaft
Good for you, that was a lot of work you had to do. Carl
Turn Playback back speed to1.5 if you learn quick
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Until I can contact you ?
I don’t understand your question?
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I have no idea why my wife's name came up on the comment but it is ok because she is from London and has the same accent. You sir are good. I have watched all of your videos and as a retired engineer and I am impressed. I have a 2011 Multistrada. I am currently in the process of replacing the front fork seals. Your brake videos are excellent. After watching your videos I decided to look at the brakes when I finish the fork seals. In fact the information that you provided in your brake videos got me to thinking about my brakes on my Harley. They are really not that good. But I will apply what I learned from your videos and see if I can make some improvements. Look forward to more of your videos.
Thank-you for your comments, and I wish you many happy hours improving your multistrada and Harley. Connecting with and helping others is my only reall goal. So enjoy, Carl
Just get the new Multi V4s and your troubles are gone...
Yes, that is probably true. Smile.... Carl
Hi Lorik, can I ask a question? What fuel consumption do you get from your V4S
Unacceptable for a "premium" motorcycle.
Yes I agree, especially as these two springs are still today used on the Diaval and XDiaval. Carl
….HAVE to agree. I’m wearing a disappointing frown now. The wife and I have JUST started looking at these Multistradas..newer models I suppose. But gosh, the present-day R & D seems to be SERIOUSLY lagging for an high-end, expensive bike. I guess they think “Hey if you can AFFORD to buy it..you can afford to have it worked on!”
Hi and welcome, the new V4S multi is different and much better developed. I think what I have experienced falls into a very small percentage, but I was shocked when I looked at the part number list and found the same springs fitted to so many models. I hope you and your wife find your ideal bike, the multistrada is a great place to be. Carl
@@justthewayitis and by the looks of it, identical in my old 999. Same mechanism anyway.
More than likely, they have used a very similar system for many many years.
Best wishes Carl