Ram Cichlids vs Apistogramma CIchlids: Which is Best?
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- Hello Fellow Fish Keepers!
In this video we compare the Ram cichlid and the Apisto. Both are great fish for you aquarium and can make a great centerpiece fish, but there are some subtle differences to consider.
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Just started keeping cichlids after 60 years of fish keeping, i'm a nano guy, so far i have German Black rams, Bolivian Rams, Electric Blue Acaras and about 30 Jewel Cichlid fry that were given to me by my LFS. This is all in the last 3 months. Love your channel, lots of great information! have 27 tanks and in the process of setting up a black sand 55 for the acaras. I think apistos are in my sights
Tanganyikans!
I would love to hear more about keeping Apistos with Rams.
I keep apistos l, have like 7 or 8 species now 🙂
That's the plan for my next tank
I keep rams and apistos in my 40
@@N1suicide same bud, same. Had to kick the Boesmani out tho.
@@N1suicide how many of each?
Personally if I had to choose I'd go apistos, simply because they've got so much more variety, also I'd say overall apistos are easier to keep.
My opinion is Apistograma!! I think they are more easier to care for. I’ve kept both my ram didn’t make it long bout 2 months only . My Apistograma is thriving!! Love your channel !!
I was relieved to hear y’all say you can mix both. I have a 29g with one female German blue ram and was thinking about adding one apisto. Now I can do some more research into a peaceful one that will work in my community. Great video!
Fully agree, I have both Rams and Apistos in the same large community 60 gallon tank. They're definitely amazing, both cool and territorial ! My favorite are A. trifasciata and A. baenchi, and M. ramirezi F1. Best wishes
I’ve had an EBR in my 20 gallon long community tank for almost 5 months and I’m still blown away by how striking it looks when the LED hits it at just the right angle as it swims through the aquarium. It’s genuinely breathtaking.
I’ve had a German Blue Ram in my heavily planted community tank for months without issue. A couple weeks ago after watching a similar video talking about how friendly Apistogramma are, I did the hour-long drive to the “good” fish store. They had about a dozen types, and I got a female Nijsseni (bright yellow body with 3 large black spots on each side). For the first 2 days, it was pretty timid, hanging out in the plants checking things out. Then it got comfortable. Then it killed all of my horned nerites. Then it decided to chase the ram for 3 laps around the tank anytime they made eye contact. Then it decided cories aren’t allowed in any of the hiding spots. Then it feasted on a dozen mollie fry before I could scoop them out.
So Apistogramma - pretty, but not as chill as everybody keeps making them out to be.
Being cichlids - you never know sometimes.
Some species 🤷♂️
I have a German blue ram , German electric blue ram and a apistograma Agassizi double red in my 125 planted they get along great I never seen aggression except when they were small and first day in the main tank.6 months later no problems so far
I love Gold Rams, but they are always so hard to keep! :(
I have two Apistograma Borelli and just love them. I also enjoy Bolivian Rams and will be adding one to my 20 long once it finishes cycling. I want to start a breeding project with some Apistograma Cacatuoides once my 10 gallon finishes cycling. Love your UA-cam channel and always watch the livestream on Wednesday nights. Keep up the good work.
I just got my first cichlids about 3 weeks ago, a pair of A. cacatuoides and they've quickly become my favorite fish in that tank. They've even spawned once already! It's amazing how much the female's colour changes.
Definitely Rams, I have a pair of german blues for about 6 months now and I really enjoy them. On top of that they are really chill with others and super easy to feed, basically eat anything you put in
OMG! I just found your video on these guys after asking at Aquashella, Orlando! I've got a group of Bolivians and Apistos in my 75 gallon, and absolutely love them! Great to get some more information on these little guys. As always, awesome video!
That’s cool!
First time keeper of balloon rams! Excited ty for the video
Love my borellii. My whole fish room is on the cooler side with lots of hill stream species so their lower temp range fits and their variety of colour is awesome too.
If you have planted tank and ideal ph or RO water then Rams mainly German Blue are awesome but are impossible to keep alive with harder water. Apistos are much hardier and have more color and personality imo. I love the Apistogramma Macmasteri!!
I think the dwarf electric blue rams are beautiful. Will be trying them soon. Have a well planted, cycled tank just waiting for their arrival
I love apistos, one of my favorite fish of all time. I keep like 7 species 🙂 I like apistogramma more than rams, I've had a tough time finding healthy hardy rams.
Awesome. I’m looking to add a pair of dwarf cichlids to my planted Fluval Evo 13.5. Used to raise temporalis and fontosa, so not new to cichlids… but new to nano.
What would you recommend?
I always love the vibe in these videos
Thank you!
Aposisto macmasteri. Definitely my favorite
Happy happy Monday Jason and Joanna 🙏💞
I love learning about these dwarf cichlids.
My first time in the hobby I was in love with cichlids but I didn't have any knowledge.. I put anything and everything that was labeled as a cichlid in the same tank 😥
I didn't realize the size some of them got, I didn't know if they were aggressive or not... needless to say it didn't work out.
That was 20 years ago!
Over the past year I've been watching everything on the Apistos and Rams. What incredibly beautiful little dwarf cichlids and centerpiece fish!!
I wish I had seen videos like this my first time around!
Thanks for another great video on some truly amazing fish!! Love you guys bunches and I hope everybody has a blessed and beautiful day 🙏💞🌿🐟🌿
They would probably fit nicely into your tank setups. :-)
Great comparison of these two types of cichlids! Very thorough and easy to understand. Thank you!
I think the 20 gallon long is my favorite tank size for smaller fish.
My choice would be a German Blue Ran that would actually survive longer than 2 months. Three times I have tried and every time they have not thrived and just died off one by one.
Great video topic! I would have to go with the Midnight Rams from Dean Tweedle. 😍
One of the prettiest fish you'll ever see is a female Apisto Cacatuoides in breeding colours.
Bolivian Rams are definitely my favorite. LOVE them!
I just purchased my 1st 2 Bolivian Rams yesterday. They are in quarantine right now but seem to be picking on each other!!!
You read my mind. I was thinking what an awesome comparison then I saw your video title. Google reading my mind again?? Keep up the great work guys.
Awesome video! I've never cared for Rams before, but thinking about getting a Bolivian Ram after this.
This is the exact type of video i was looking for!
Apistogramma for sure!! I have 3 different varieties, so fun to watch!
This is exactly what I needed. Also I'm hear for that woman. She knows her stuff.
I have a gold ram, Balloon Body GBR, and a pair of Cacatuoides…I love nano cichlids. Great info I appreciate the vid.
Just picked up 2 blue rams for a 55 gallon community tank.
I would eventually like to add 2 black rams.
If it's a community tank then I'd definitely opt for Bolivian Rams every time, the Blues (especially the imported ones) generally don't live long in my experience, not to mention they like it way hotter than most community fish are comfortable with. Apistos are awesome but they were a bit of a menace towards my corys.
I love them both in different ways but if I was hard pressed to choose, I’m going with German Blue Rams/Electric Blue Rams
I know! It’s a tough choice ☺️☺️
@@mrsprimetimeaquatics5497 Hey we could always do both in a big enough tank!
2 years later I would like to say that the high heat requirements of the ram cichlid DEFINITELY goes into consideration when keeping for me now. Not alot of plants (I’m a plant guy) do as good to me at 84-86ish and that seems to be the sweet spot for rams.
i have apistograma agasizii fire gold i kept in a community tank with tetras and rcs and yes my shrimps are doing fine with my apistos
Happy Monday! I’m with Joanna, I have always liked the look of German Blue Rams. 🐠
Hi Cheryl! Happy Monday! They are a tough little fish to beat. ☺️
I took your advice 😊 i bought a german blue ram cichlid today. His little face is cute. Hes in a 20 with blue and green neon tetras. Two mollies 😊
Happy Monday! Thanks for the video this week! I’ve been debating just this for a while...
😃👍
Another good video there and centerpiece fish is Bolivian Ram for me super cool :D
Always great info -- getting my first apisto trifasciatas today and am so excited!!!
I'm going to say Ram's!! I love your videos!!!! Had one German Blue Ram in a 20 gallon with a few other fish....Greatest experience with a Fish!! (Tied with my experiences with Kribensis, Loaches, and Danios) And my favorite Apistogramma is the Agassiz's!!
Idk, there is something about apistogramma cacatuiodes, to me they are one of the most beautiful fish ever. That being said, huge tiger oscars for the win ;p
Jason, when you add lines of text in white, can you please put a black box behind for contrast? The white letters are really hard to see when watching on a small device like a phone. Love your videos. God bless y'all.
4:31 Jason!! You missed an opportunity to compliment Joanna! Great video, though, on some great fish.
I’ve never kept Apistos but my GBR Franklin is amazing! Both very great fish!!!
Getting back into fishkeeping after a handful of years off.... looking to get a colony of Rams, Caucatoides, and some tanganyikan shellies as well... 3 tanks obviously, with hopefully some growout tanks needed as well down the road...
German blue rams are one of my favorite fish, but I also love the apistogramma cacatuoides (especially that name, cacatuoides, fun to say and listen to)
I have a Bolivian Ram in my 65 gallon community tank and it's my favorite fish that I have.
Is he? Wow, I’m sure he’s a fun little dude. ☺️
I’ve tried German rams 3 times and have failed all three times. The first pair made it a month before they started breathing heavy and died. The next pair I lowered the hardness and ph to match their preferred parameters and they didn’t make it 2 weeks before they went breathing hard and died. I tried it once more thinking I was unlucky and they didn’t make it a week before the heavy breathing and died. I don’t know how anyone keeps them alive. Bolivian rams are much hardier. I currently have a pair that are just over 4 years old.
love the apistos still trying to find some, the rams definitely more readily available this was neat guys thanks !!
Thank you so much for this video 🙏😍 my fav are Rams especially the German ram. I hope I will have a pair in the future. 🤞😊
You and me both! ☺️
@@mrsprimetimeaquatics5497 ok 😊 fingers cross for both of us. 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞😀😍
I was actually thinking about this this morning. I'm setting up a 55 gal angelfish tank that's half sand and half planted. Apisto's are kinda hard to find here in Southern California so I'm considering Rams.
Aquatic Arts on line have them. I got my opals from them. They are nice.
I just got an orange flash male from a breeder in Carlsbad. Let me know if you want the contact!
I love my Bolivian Ram. I need get a few more of them.
I bought about five blue Rams and only one lived and he is thriving. Now I bought seven mixed juveniles and hope to find a pair from them. They are characters and are always exploring and looking for bits of food and even come up to feed from my fingers. I love the Ram color but I also think the Bolivian Rams are a little slow and a little dumb. Never had Apistos.
I haven't kept Apistos yet but I have some GBAs and have kept Bolivians previously
love my GBR such a sweet pair goes well in my community tank have had them with dwarf gouramis and short fin bettas and have never had any issues! :D
I love the Rams! The Bolivians spawn constantly and I am hopefully going to actually see a few fry survive. German Rams were tough. Lost a ton from different breeders before I got my hands on some healthy GBRs. Gold and Electric Blues are paired up and doing well but there was a time I didn’t think I could successfully raise them. I haven’t found any decent colored Apisto fish that justifies the cost. However I am still looking. Out of all my tanks and different fish, I love the Rams, hands down. Great personalities and fun to watch. They get along with everything from guppies to Kribs. Just a great fish. Nice segment. I appreciate the work you both do for us fans.
I’ve lost like 6!!!!! And my water seems perfect- I don’t get it. They get this weird spot and die. Or just die anyway. It’s weird. Everything else in my tank is going strong, even the shrimp
Apistogramma!! I’m biased....I’ve never tried rams yet, but so far my trio of agassizii double red I acquired from accuaticclarity are fantastic!! Thank you for this video😀👍🏻
I have a 29 gallon, never had Apistogramma so I recently added Apistogramma Cocatoides, male and female. They get along great with my 5 Blue Plays and 5 peppered Cory’s . The Apistogramma are presently a little smaller than the Platy’s. Would love to add a few more fish but not sure what to add yet. I haven’t had success with Blue Rams before, not sure why? But I don’t want anything aggressive towards the Apistogramma
Perfect timing....I've been thinking about getting one..and can't decide what one to get
Been toying with getting Apisto breeding pair.great information.
Well worth it!
Nice video and good Monday to you!
I have 3 female Gold Rams in a 25gal planted community tank and they do very well and look nice.
I have a breeding pair of Apistogramma Cacatuoides and a breeding pair of Electric Blue Rams in a 33L planted community tank.
All of them are doing very well...
I can't really decide on a favorite.
All are cool fish!
Apistogramma. I love those. They are hard to find around where I live. I may settle for the German blue rams.
I wish they were more readily available.
Happy Monday. I’ve never kept Rams yet, but I do have a pair of Apistogramma agassizii Alemare Red Tail (I think), the male is just stunning 🤓
Do you? Well, that’s nothing to shake a stick at! Whatever that means. I bet he’s a real stunner! 👍
I was just deciding on my next purchase between these two, how fortuitous a video!
So cool !! Hope your next purchase goes well!
Rams are my favorite still my childhood...........they are always great ....I love them...only thing I have seen slight temp. change is effected them a lot.
Apistos bit hardy in that sense........... and as you not available easily............
Want some more cichlid options for planted tanks? Check out this video: ua-cam.com/video/Fgq9kMSCwKw/v-deo.html
Here are some helpful species profiles.
Bolivian Rams: ua-cam.com/video/yh66CXYsEH0/v-deo.html
Apistogramma Mendezi: ua-cam.com/video/-nsOwfveCQ0/v-deo.html
Apet Tour with Lots of Rams: ua-cam.com/video/pfwUmUpspbM/v-deo.html
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I’ve had both over the years but apistos are my favorite. So many flavors to choose from!
Personally I choose Bolivian rams over apistos any day. My mated pair are always putting on a show and the male had exceptionally long fin trailers. Nothing wrong with apistos, but Bolivian rams are on a-whole-nother level in my opinion.
They are both pretty.
I like the color of the German blues the best but the problem with them is the higher temperature you need to keep them compared to most other fish. If you have a planted tank than higher temps also lead to more algae outbreaks if you don't know how to control it.
I am a sucker for Rams! They are so beautiful and vibrant.
Yup, you said it! ☺️
Good morning to my two favorite UA-cam fish hobbyists. My preference leans towards the rams. The problem for me to keep them (I think ) would be difficult though. My tap water falls far below neutral. Any suggestions on how to raise it? I always love your Monday videos! Sincerely, Marty Borst 👍🐠
Actually - Rams, especially the German Blues wouldn't mind water between a 6-7 pH? :-)
Hello from England 🇬🇧
Love Dwarf Cichlids, I'm making 2 large indoor ponds, I would love to have these again but as there are so many African & American Cichlids I'm going to have to have them until I get my shallow 4 foot Aquarium set up.
Thanks for the info'.
I want a pair of borellii. Not sure if I like the opal or the blue better, but I love the yellow of the female in contrast to the blue in the males
Happy Monday. Bolivian rams... I love the streamers that they grow. Very nice against a dark substrate. Great video again guys👍
Yes! love the streamers! 😃
I have not kept either, but I am drawn to the subtle coloring of the Bolivian rams.
Yup - they sure are pretty. ☺️
I love my bolivian ram, spike
I love Bolivians for their longer wavy fins, but if you want insane color go with German golds.
Jason I normally agree with you on most things but on this occasion I’m with Joanna.German Blue Rams all the way. Maybe on the next tank it will be Apistos.
O come on Man! She's going to see this and say - "see, told you". :-) Haha
I loved my golden rams such personality, now I have a pair of apisto cockatoo which are very pretty but I feel that rams, they have more personality and interact better.
Two of my very favorite breeds. I think I like Apistos a teeny bit more....
If I only had to pick one: definitely German Rams.
I’m a Ram girl too! GBR have my ❤.
“like the cardinal” 😂
I have a 60 gallon I got for free a few months ago. I been dancing around topic. After seeing this I think I'm leaning towards RAMs💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛
The Bolivians are usually easier to keep than the Germans - really cool fish!
@@PrimeTimeAquatics I will keep that in mind. Thank 😊you💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛
Apisogramma are just Beautiful fish but it such a tuff chose because I do love rams too. Ok I pick apisogramma
Apisto's all the time.
Although, I do enjoy how Rams tend to follow your finger when shoaling. Apistogramma are far more individualistic. I like to think of Ram's as canines whereas Apisto's are more like felines when comparing the two.
On a side note, I have the luxury of designing my own fish room as we speak. My guy over at my LFS has been hounding me for at least a year now for some _A. cacatuoides 'Super Reds'_ and "anything else you are willing to breed". As much as I want to jump the gun and start the project(s) now, I have to remind him (and myself) that our current residence is only temporary while the new house is being built.
Watching these videos does not help me to curb that desire. Nonetheless, I absolutely love Apisto's and look forward to being the premier Apisto breeder in Arizona. Although you make an incredibly valid point about the inbreeding. I would like to say that I have a solid source for some F1 or F2 _A. cacatuoides_ but I truly worry that they may lead to some genetic abnormalities. My inherent distrust of everybody bodes well in some situations. I saw what could potentially happen with my WCMM breeding project and I would like to avoid that if at all possible.
I whole heartedly trust you Jason (and Joanna) and look forward to your recommendation for a reputable Apisto breeder. I am also not opposed to purchasing a breeding pair/trio/etc from you if you are willing to do so. We still have time until our home is complete so this is by no means a "rushed decision". Thank you as always and keep up the great work.
Stay classy my friends.
That is so cool!
Was thinking two of each in a 75 gallon with 5 discus, 18 cardinals , a few Cory and the best alge suckers I can find after researching that stay small. Why four and 2/2? Don't want them to distract from the discus as center piece fish but add the unique color variety.
I unfortunately gave up on rams and apistos. They just don't like my water. They make it through quarantine no problem and live for about 6 months and then I go to feed them and their dead with no warning. I bought 12 to try and do a breeding project. Bought a bunch of 10 gallons and set them up almost exactly as Dean in the aquarium coop video and no luck. Right when I started to see breeding action, belly up... I need to try and find some locally bred.
That happens to me from time to time with them as well - mostly because of my water parameters as well.
Good topic I have gbr's and borelli apisto's and the do well in my community 65g.
Are they still going alright?
@@djs83 they did but I had to get rid of the apistogrammas because they were picking off little tetras in the community.
What’s the name of the fish shown at 1:41 . BEAUTIFUL!
My female Apistogramma cacatuoides is very very colorful.
I would definitely say Bolivians as I've had her longer. I just got my first pair of Apisto Cacatuoides, so I have to get used to them. They are not doing much for me yet. Love my BR and too scared to keep Germans.
What is the Blue (Apisto?) called at 5:28 and 6:51? It's beautiful :)
Just got a pair of Apistogramma borelli opal The male colored up imeditly and is the most social fish
Ooooh - sounds gorgeous!
Ooh Hands on head! Both are so cool. Toss up, can't decide. Alas, I will stick with ........ haha coin toss Love you guys thanks for brightening my Monday!
Thank you!
I would love a couple pairs of Black rams.