And Strohl didn't even get to fully show his potential because of the invisible resistance to Slash 😂 but it really isn't that hard (tho I did defeat the human bosses, haven't tried the getting the cheevo)
Attacks miss, finally hit, boss heals, and so on, then he soul crys and gains an extra 4 turns, until after an endless grind, 2 smashed controllers and tv's you finally manage to beat him with no MP and only basic attacks left. Ended up having to throw items at him to kill him only for the second form to come
Running out of MP was definitely my problem. Honestly though, second attempt with Heismay instead of Hulkenberg (Sorry best girl) went much better, if only Heismay's just over there dodging everything and costing Louis all his turn icons.
Honestly, I found Hulkenberg pretty useless the entire game. Her Archetype kinda blows 😂 Same with Junah and her dancer archetype. She’s much more useful as a healer
Regarding MP consumption, one of the archetype has a passive skill to double effect of healing objects. Keep this skill in the party and give mp recovery items with the hero concerned whenever needed. I had a bunch of those items by the end of the game but still this was much needed.
that's nice, it was extremely hard for me because idk how OP Heismey is. I completed it w/ Strohl, Hulkenberg, and Junna. I used a lot of items, and each have inherit skills Magic Link just to save MP.
This guy was hard for me his final phase endless turns I finally did it, but it took me forever and I did not do it on hard. I play the whole game on hard until I met this dude and finally had to change it to normal it could’ve been also that it was 2 in the morning, and I was trying to beat him.
@@axelcabanillas3232 I started the game on hard difficulty and I never had any problems until the end, just when I had to fight Louis, I change the difficulty to normal
@@axelcabanillas3232It’s definitely a very cheap fight, with fully buffed accuracy/evasion, he’d still avoid your moves and you wouldn’t dodge more often than not. Was losing my mind getting him to the end and it just refusing to dodge, with fully buffed evasion, so he was getting all extra turns every single time.
There's a weapon for the Warrior lineage named "Beloved Greatsword" that increases the strength of your synthesis skills, but at the cost of more MP. As for the synthesis turn icon reduction, it is done by having an accessory named "Utilitarian's Manual" equipped on a character.
Eh idk about that managed to beat it on hard with everyone in their 60s, just used basillios royal archetype with the necklace that lets you go twice and he was hitting around 7k per round
This was an incredibly hard boss and i'm glad. I managed to beat it with Prince Will, Royal Berserker Basilio, Royal Warrior Strohl and Royal Dancer Junah with Mercy Mask. At first this comp sounds unbalanced but somehow it works out extremely well when you deal a quadjillion damage every turn. Wasn't easy nevertheless.
If i didnt look up any guided or reddit beforehand i wouldve never beaten this boss, as its my first atlus game they dont reqlly teach you much about cinserving mp and reflection skills
Can u share build ? I guess my main problem is equipment becuz he always hit crit & weak. He got like 10 turns per round 💀 i can't beat his second form
The magic repel from the final dungeon is a LIFE SAVER. Same with anyone who is your dodge tank and has the accessory to remove turns upon evading and has the ninja passive.
Used mono tycoon team and blast through the boss. Dragons and elegy of the soul are much harder for me, or maybe because I didn't use mono tycoon team at that time when I fought the dragons.
The whole game felt pretty chill on difficulty, even the dragon trial but this was so odd. I was intentionally under powered and underprepared but it felt impossible unless i had royal archetypes. I could be bad, but this seems odd for how meh hard was
I'm confused. Why charadrius second phase on my gameplay has 8 press turns? 12 in totals if you add the soul scream. Did I miss something? or does it have some kind of hidden rules that my dumb ass too lazy to read?
My strategy for beating it without destroying all the crystal was using royal thief with max agility and high evasion on heismay. If Louis miss an attack it will consume all of his turn icons
@@lacrimosa3716I already beat him by depending on hulkenberg’s royal knight repel passive to waste all of the boss’ turn lol. That skill really came in clutch, even though it takes me 5 hours to beat the final boss
I have seen bad boss design, but this one takes a cake, boss is so badly design, you buff your party defense then the boss always remove all buffs from party and then attack 4 or sometimes 5 times and even can remove 2 action point, not to mention i run out of mp potions so basically nothing to do but to defend heal and auto attack :facepalm:
Yea the Boss was good in Terms of difficulty since i mean ITS the Finalboss! But yea the Lack of Mp restoring items was a pain in the ass since the areas before the Boss we're pretty large and already consumed Most of my mp items so in endet Up having to Invest all in passive Mp Recovery and IT still wasnt enough😂
Definitely cheap. But if you debuff him AND buff your party, seems like it always focuses on removing the debuff, so he doesn’t debuff your buffs, other than the rare “great reset.” All comes down to RNG though, you need to get lucky enough to dodge his second to last move, so he doesn’t get “Soul Scream,” and it loved you either dodge too early or not at all.
They expect the player to understand how the general SMT system works by the end of the game. When in doubt, use all party block melee and magic and go from there.
No, he is fair. The rule is that so long as you debuff him once he will not take away your buff, so use those attacks that also debuff against him. As for his 8 press turn, run either Heisemay dodge tank or Hulkenberg to chew through his press turns. At this stage you are given everything to fight him, you just have to figure it out
Oh no seems as though this Final Boss Is an MP Dump, how did you manage to get so Many MP Potions😂 I have 5 days left and I’m Lvl 58 how am I going to stand a chance against this boss😭the prospect of grinding sounds terrifying to me
The Dinasty something move that Heimsay does buffs ATK by 3 pips (among other things) for 3 turns, If your stats are high enough the rightmost head will take 5/6k damage consistently with the strongest synthesis with the leftmost close behind (the center one is still a b*ch though). The problem is that strategy consumes a LOT of mana with the sword that increase the damage and a lot of turns if you don't use the amulet that lowers the turn requirement.
The design is baller, but its in now way shape or form fun to fight for a more casual player. This boss is a little too high-skill for my tastes and it has WAYYY to much BS moves. I mean in the second phase it can already move 6 times and then on occasion it just spawns 4 more moves for good measure. And the grind.....the grind. Tho i have to admit, i had 0 mp items on me. Never figured out where i could get them.
Hate to tell you this but when you first crashed on Tyrant's Star, you could've talked to Nearus to not only get free rests on the Runner, but also buy stuff at his shop. He has magla pills which give you 50 MP per use. And you could use Ariadne's Thread to go back to the runner whenever you wanted, as long as you didn't go start the first Louis fight.
Its not that hard just use heismay dodge strategy and goodbye all the press turn of the boss or use the mirrot of azitah and the other one for the tooths in the final dungeon xd
Japanese are sick as f... Metaphor is great game, but endgame is trash. Final Boss is one of the most annoying bosses in all jrpgs ever. Japanese are most sick people of them all...
Nah in grand scheme of things this boss isn't that bad. Chronicles version of SMT3 Lucifer for instance has a full heal he can use near the end of the fight, and he has like 65,000 hp.
@@FurryWulfz ok but this fight is dumb also. I think that endgame is boring and stupid. I don't like when they're making ending that long with final boss who have 2 forms or more.
So go play that terrible Dragon Age thing while we play Metaphor, Persona 3, SMTVV, Like a Dragon 8, Tekken 8, Elden Ring DLC and other japanese games that are lot of fun. 3 years whitout putting a single american game on my PS/Switch and no regreats.
@@ichibankasuga5607 go cry me a river 🤣 Dude I love jrpgs, it's my favourite genre, but sometimes they do stupid things in those games. P.S Tekken 8 is piece of s..t
I wanna ask, now that you've beaten the game (gratz btw), how would you rate it? The demo's kinda cool and I've heard good things, but I want to hear someone's take once they finished the whole game first 💛🤍💜🖤
@@castroh19 The framerate isn't 60, basically. It stutters a lot. Info can be seen on digital foundry's video, and FPS hovers around 49-50 the whole game, essentially.
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i cant imagine how difficult this fight wouldve been for me without the item to reduce synthesis cost
Didnt know there was an item like that. This boss took me three days
And Strohl didn't even get to fully show his potential because of the invisible resistance to Slash 😂 but it really isn't that hard (tho I did defeat the human bosses, haven't tried the getting the cheevo)
Attacks miss, finally hit, boss heals, and so on, then he soul crys and gains an extra 4 turns, until after an endless grind, 2 smashed controllers and tv's you finally manage to beat him with no MP and only basic attacks left. Ended up having to throw items at him to kill him only for the second form to come
Sounds like you were unprepared then
@sharkeatinpizza of course 🤣 got there eventually though
Bro same im hard stuck, no mp items for second phase. That middle mask is a bitch kills all my mp 😭
Literally me
Can’t believe someone suffered the same as me. Lmao
This boss was really godamn hard
Running out of MP was definitely my problem. Honestly though, second attempt with Heismay instead of Hulkenberg (Sorry best girl) went much better, if only Heismay's just over there dodging everything and costing Louis all his turn icons.
Yeah, I wish I realized how incredibly good Heismay is at support as a warlord. But Hulkenberg also helped by giving me extra turns
I made Shulkenburg my dodge tank 😅
Honestly, I found Hulkenberg pretty useless the entire game. Her Archetype kinda blows 😂
Same with Junah and her dancer archetype. She’s much more useful as a healer
Regarding MP consumption, one of the archetype has a passive skill to double effect of healing objects. Keep this skill in the party and give mp recovery items with the hero concerned whenever needed. I had a bunch of those items by the end of the game but still this was much needed.
that's nice, it was extremely hard for me because idk how OP Heismey is. I completed it w/ Strohl, Hulkenberg, and Junna. I used a lot of items, and each have inherit skills Magic Link just to save MP.
This guy was hard for me his final phase endless turns I finally did it, but it took me forever and I did not do it on hard. I play the whole game on hard until I met this dude and finally had to change it to normal it could’ve been also that it was 2 in the morning, and I was trying to beat him.
unbalanced
@@pablorissnah u people just bad at the game
@@axelcabanillas3232 I started the game on hard difficulty and I never had any problems until the end, just when I had to fight Louis, I change the difficulty to normal
@@pablorissyes, this boss unbalanced
@@axelcabanillas3232It’s definitely a very cheap fight, with fully buffed accuracy/evasion, he’d still avoid your moves and you wouldn’t dodge more often than not. Was losing my mind getting him to the end and it just refusing to dodge, with fully buffed evasion, so he was getting all extra turns every single time.
What do you have equipped on Strohl that allowed him to double the MP usage for Synthesis but it still only cost one turn?
There's a weapon for the Warrior lineage named "Beloved Greatsword" that increases the strength of your synthesis skills, but at the cost of more MP. As for the synthesis turn icon reduction, it is done by having an accessory named "Utilitarian's Manual" equipped on a character.
I got greedy and tried a spear attack with like 1 hit left and missed… then my prince dodged an attack and I was saved from losing 30 mins lmao
I absolutely enjoyed this final fight. My final team was Strohl, Hulkenburg and Eupha.
Amazing final boss, terrible grind requirement though.
Eh idk about that managed to beat it on hard with everyone in their 60s, just used basillios royal archetype with the necklace that lets you go twice and he was hitting around 7k per round
Lol you guys keep saying this while I never grinded at all and beat the game.
@ wow man so attractive, let me suck you off and rub your feet
My friend did it on regicide underleveled without new game plus (edited file). Skill issue
@ bro clearly doesn’t understand how regicide works, and can make the game easier smh
This boss is on the same level as the Barrier Trio from Mother 3. Maybe even harder.
This was an incredibly hard boss and i'm glad. I managed to beat it with Prince Will, Royal Berserker Basilio, Royal Warrior Strohl and Royal Dancer Junah with Mercy Mask. At first this comp sounds unbalanced but somehow it works out extremely well when you deal a quadjillion damage every turn. Wasn't easy nevertheless.
If i didnt look up any guided or reddit beforehand i wouldve never beaten this boss, as its my first atlus game they dont reqlly teach you much about cinserving mp and reflection skills
Basilio and its Royal Berserk carried me through this battle. Played on Normal, lvl 80+.
Can u share build ? I guess my main problem is equipment becuz he always hit crit & weak. He got like 10 turns per round 💀 i can't beat his second form
I js realized the only reason i can't beat him is becuz i didn't clear the whole map. i only killed 1 human
@@hakurenteino878Damn, I can’t imagine, he was a total motherfucker even with all of them dead.
The magic repel from the final dungeon is a LIFE SAVER. Same with anyone who is your dodge tank and has the accessory to remove turns upon evading and has the ninja passive.
The problem is the lack of MP, by the last boss i have nothing and there is no any way to get more
you can buy them in the final area from neuras
@FurryWulfz but he only sell you 50 pm and at the time each attack consume 50 pm
@@magik1987 Just spend a turn or so refilling mp?
Used mono tycoon team and blast through the boss. Dragons and elegy of the soul are much harder for me, or maybe because I didn't use mono tycoon team at that time when I fought the dragons.
The whole game felt pretty chill on difficulty, even the dragon trial but this was so odd. I was intentionally under powered and underprepared but it felt impossible unless i had royal archetypes. I could be bad, but this seems odd for how meh hard was
I'm confused. Why charadrius second phase on my gameplay has 8 press turns? 12 in totals if you add the soul scream. Did I miss something? or does it have some kind of hidden rules that my dumb ass too lazy to read?
You have to beat the optional bosses in the final dungeon. The repeat fights of the humans. (There's 6 of them)
My strategy for beating it without destroying all the crystal was using royal thief with max agility and high evasion on heismay. If Louis miss an attack it will consume all of his turn icons
@@FurryWulfzdid the game told us that we can make the fight easier by beating the optional boss? because I don’t remember that at all lol
@@lacrimosa3716I already beat him by depending on hulkenberg’s royal knight repel passive to waste all of the boss’ turn lol. That skill really came in clutch, even though it takes me 5 hours to beat the final boss
@@emiemi- It does once you destroyed 1 crystal
I have seen bad boss design, but this one takes a cake, boss is so badly design, you buff your party defense then the boss always remove all buffs from party and then attack 4 or sometimes 5 times and even can remove 2 action point, not to mention i run out of mp potions so basically nothing to do but to defend heal and auto attack :facepalm:
Yea the Boss was good in Terms of difficulty since i mean ITS the Finalboss! But yea the Lack of Mp restoring items was a pain in the ass since the areas before the Boss we're pretty large and already consumed Most of my mp items so in endet Up having to Invest all in passive Mp Recovery and IT still wasnt enough😂
Definitely cheap.
But if you debuff him AND buff your party, seems like it always focuses on removing the debuff, so he doesn’t debuff your buffs, other than the rare “great reset.”
All comes down to RNG though, you need to get lucky enough to dodge his second to last move, so he doesn’t get “Soul Scream,” and it loved you either dodge too early or not at all.
Sounds like you're going to love Matador!
They expect the player to understand how the general SMT system works by the end of the game.
When in doubt, use all party block melee and magic and go from there.
No, he is fair. The rule is that so long as you debuff him once he will not take away your buff, so use those attacks that also debuff against him. As for his 8 press turn, run either Heisemay dodge tank or Hulkenberg to chew through his press turns. At this stage you are given everything to fight him, you just have to figure it out
Just 1 Hit Kill this boss with strohl with critical build : 60K damage in 1 turn
Oh no seems as though this Final Boss Is an MP Dump, how did you manage to get so Many MP Potions😂 I have 5 days left and I’m Lvl 58 how am I going to stand a chance against this boss😭the prospect of grinding sounds terrifying to me
Ur able to buy unlimited when you get here
@@dryandmusty1548 and where exactly is here? I went to gloamhall and all the merchants are all sold out
@@dryandmusty1548where exactly?
@@bomj_stepan beuras opens a shop at the final location at the last day. The one thats 50 mp
@@dryandmusty1548 where can you buy it tho? I dont find any merchand that allows me to buy mp recovery
How are you hitting 5-7k damage with Strohl? What am I missing?
The Dinasty something move that Heimsay does buffs ATK by 3 pips (among other things) for 3 turns, If your stats are high enough the rightmost head will take 5/6k damage consistently with the strongest synthesis with the leftmost close behind (the center one is still a b*ch though). The problem is that strategy consumes a LOT of mana with the sword that increase the damage and a lot of turns if you don't use the amulet that lowers the turn requirement.
The design is baller, but its in now way shape or form fun to fight for a more casual player.
This boss is a little too high-skill for my tastes and it has WAYYY to much BS moves. I mean in the second phase it can already move 6 times and then on occasion it just spawns 4 more moves for good measure.
And the grind.....the grind.
Tho i have to admit, i had 0 mp items on me. Never figured out where i could get them.
Hate to tell you this but when you first crashed on Tyrant's Star, you could've talked to Nearus to not only get free rests on the Runner, but also buy stuff at his shop. He has magla pills which give you 50 MP per use. And you could use Ariadne's Thread to go back to the runner whenever you wanted, as long as you didn't go start the first Louis fight.
Its not that hard just use heismay dodge strategy and goodbye all the press turn of the boss or use the mirrot of azitah and the other one for the tooths in the final dungeon xd
Japanese are sick as f... Metaphor is great game, but endgame is trash.
Final Boss is one of the most annoying bosses in all jrpgs ever.
Japanese are most sick people of them all...
Nah in grand scheme of things this boss isn't that bad. Chronicles version of SMT3 Lucifer for instance has a full heal he can use near the end of the fight, and he has like 65,000 hp.
@@FurryWulfz ok but this fight is dumb also. I think that endgame is boring and stupid.
I don't like when they're making ending that long with final boss who have 2 forms or more.
So go play that terrible Dragon Age thing while we play Metaphor, Persona 3, SMTVV, Like a Dragon 8, Tekken 8, Elden Ring DLC and other japanese games that are lot of fun. 3 years whitout putting a single american game on my PS/Switch and no regreats.
@@ichibankasuga5607 go cry me a river 🤣
Dude I love jrpgs, it's my favourite genre, but sometimes they do stupid things in those games.
P.S Tekken 8 is piece of s..t
Go play dragon age and gtfo of here r3tard
I wanna ask, now that you've beaten the game (gratz btw), how would you rate it? The demo's kinda cool and I've heard good things, but I want to hear someone's take once they finished the whole game first 💛🤍💜🖤
In terms of design, I think it's the best Atlus game. Has some problems though, largely small. Performance on the PS5 version is awful.
@@FurryWulfz Good to hear! Shame about the PS5 version though, but thank you again ^^
I have been playing on the ps5. No issues so far for me. I have put in 60 hours.
@@castroh19 The framerate isn't 60, basically. It stutters a lot. Info can be seen on digital foundry's video, and FPS hovers around 49-50 the whole game, essentially.
Even if you worried about performance, Atlus still dropping updates here and there to improve them